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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: goomba420 on November 09, 2011, 03:03:55 PM
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although phil wouldnt stand a chance against a 2003 coleman, he looks pretty comparable here
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that is blasphemy
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Not even close.
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i wont even bother how much of a bigger man ronnie is than phil.
one more for dex, one more for jay. that's some corny shit along with his meals BS.
comparing phil's frame to ronnie is similar to comparing Gus, and look how bigger ronnie is to Gus. Phil is all arms
ronnie kills him in video wars too.
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that is blasphemy
X2!
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Not the same lighting
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Heath looks better, has fewer flaws
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Heath looks better, has fewer flaws
and shawn looked better and had less flaws.
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that is blasphemy
X3
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The back shots are close.
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phil is another bber with good condition, ronnie is ronnie... you can not compare him to other bbers in terms of muscularity except with kai
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Neither can compare with the greatest of them all, Levrone.
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I created these GIFs. People were comparing today's Phil to late 90s Ronnie, so I used a video of Phil from this past Olympia and Ronnie from the 1998 Grand Prix Finland.
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Really. Ronnie Coleman had guys psyched out before they even got to the Mr Olympia. They would say things like oh I guess we're fighting for 2nd place here.
Now don't get me wrong Phil has improved...A LOT...VERY QUICKLY.
If he can do it 8x like Ronnie then I'll put him in the same breath as Ronnie Coleman until then this remains an internet debate that is laughable at best.
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Pretty Cool what you did with the videos there.
Ronnie was about 12-15 pounds heavier in the 99 grand prix
with even more separation.
Here's a shot from the back against wheeler and leverone.
Same thing would happen from the front.
Coleman's structure would make Heath look narrow
and he was even more detailed than Heath.
More shoulder, chest and back striations and
pretty even detail wise everywhere else.
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Is that the British GP? I can make GIFs of it too.
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I guess they're comparable in the sense that they are both bald and black, but aside from that, there's very little to compare.
"1"
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give phil time... this is his first olympia win. pics should only be compared to ronnie in 1998 if anything.
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cool comparisons.
ronnie is killing him though. look at the difference in arms. holy shit.
with other poses in there, its even more of a beat down for the new mr. O 8)
he needs more arms, legs and chest to really compete.
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that is blasphemy
X4
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although phil wouldnt stand a chance against a 2003 coleman, he looks pretty comparable here
No he doesn't. Are you blind?
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He only looks comparable due to the scaling being completely off. Stand them next to each other and you'd see Phil shrink down like pair of prepubescent balls. Phil is certainly complete, but side by side he'd get destroyed.
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pictures and video does nothing, they need to stand next to each other. Then it will be obvious, Coleman was taller, wider, thicker
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pictures and video does nothing, they need to stand next to each other. Then it will be obvious, Coleman was taller, wider, thicker
actually, phil next to flex is more realistic. there are national level middle-weights wider than phil. maybe you could compare the width of one of ronnie's thighs to phils clavicles.
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and shawn looked better and had less flaws.
x2
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coleman is twice as big as that little shrimp heath. im sick of people comparing the two.
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Is that the British GP? I can make GIFs of it too.
Yeah, it looks like
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give phil time... this is his first olympia win. pics should only be compared to ronnie in 1998 if anything.
I don't know bro, You really think Phil's structure can handle more size? I think the number one problem with Phil is that when he goes home late at night after his guru fills his muscle's with oil, Phil wakes up every hour on the hour and keeps adding "just alittle more oil" in his biceps and 4arms. Come next year at the Olympia, his already obvious retarded abuse of oil is going to spill over into what we all know as stage 3 Palumboism. And stage 4 is right around the corner.
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I don't know bro, You really think Phil's structure can handle more size? I think the number one problem with Phil is that when he goes home late at night after his guru fills his muscle's with oil, Phil wakes up every hour on the hour and keeps adding "just alittle more oil" in his biceps and 4arms. Come next year at the Olympia, his already obvious retarded abuse of oil is going to spill over into what we all know as stage 3 Palumboism. And stage 4 is right around the corner.
::) phil, if he does use synthol, doesnt show any of the tell tale signs of it... unless you consider extremely developed and defined muscles to be "synthol esque".
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::) phil, if he does use synthol, doesnt show any of the tell tale signs of it... unless you consider extremely developed and defined muscles to be "synthol esque".
WTF??? You think guys at 5'8 have 23 inch arms because of spot injections. WTF bro, FST-7 protocol is designed for oil use. Phil and Jason are proponents of FST-7. Use your brain.
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what is fst7? I thought it was a cycle that included insulin protocol
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WTF??? You think guys at 5'8 have 23 inch arms because of spot injections. WTF bro, FST-7 protocol is designed for oil use. Phil and Jason are proponents of FST-7. Use your brain.
he may or may not use synthol.. if he does, its not apparant. cant even see signs of site injections. phils physqiue is flawless in that regard.
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it maybe different side by side but I think they look pretty similar in that comparison
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Phil needs to pull a Kevin and get a nose job if he wants to get any credit, those nostrils distract from this physique. Jay has a prominent masculine good looking nose and does not look like a pussy who's face hasn't hit puberty yet (like Phil)... I have a hook nose myself but it's shaped identical to Gunter's nose and bitches think it's studly and masculine:P
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he may or may not use synthol.. if he does, its not apparant. cant even see signs of site injections. phils physqiue is flawless in that regard.
all I see is a black dwarfe with nostrils and a complex.
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Phil needs to pull a Kevin and get a nose job if he wants to get any credit, those nostrils distract from this physique. Jay has a prominent masculine good looking nose and does not look like a pussy who's face hasn't hit puberty yet (like Phil)... I have a hook nose myself but it's shaped identical to Gunter's nose and bitches think it's studly and masculine:P
His wife likes his face and nose and so do many of the women...
Although, I think due to the GH, it has made his nose wider, like it made Ronnie's lips bigger.
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this is what the nose of what a mr. olympia should look like.
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this is what the nose of what a mr. olympia should look like.
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it doesn't matter what his nose looks like. Arnold and Haney had a gap between their front teeth.
Furthermore, Gunther was never ready for Primetime at the O...
And just like Ronnie, his voice didn't match his body---except Gunter sounds like Kermit The Frog.
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Phil needs to pull a Kevin and get a nose job if he wants to get any credit, those nostrils distract from this physique. Jay has a prominent masculine good looking nose and does not look like a pussy who's face hasn't hit puberty yet (like Phil)... I have a hook nose myself but it's shaped identical to Gunter's nose and bitches think it's studly and masculine:P
Stupid post 8)
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Crazy, Phil's back is even thicker and more detailed than Colemans'. Never even realized that before.
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Crazy, Phil's back is even thicker and more detailed than Colemans'. Never even realized that before.
uummmmmm, no ???
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lol lots of blind folks reading this forum, they must be sick at brail
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A lot of ppl were brainwashed by gh15 about phil, the above pics show the real picture.
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Very Cool what your doing with the videos POTA.
Here is just an idea of what Heath would look like
standing next to Ronnie. Jay is around 260 in all
3 contests.
Jay, Ronnie and Kevin is at the beginning of 2001 judging.
Blurry Jay and Phil from 2010
Jay and Ronnie from end of 2001 prejudging
Jay and Phil from 2011 night show comparisons.
These are not scaled perfect but hopefully good
enough to get an idea.
EDIT: You'll have to click the .jpg link at the bottom
of the Coleman pics to get a better scale.
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great comparisons.
ronnie's arms in the 99 vid are simply the best in the history of the sport. crazy.
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Very Cool what your doing with the videos POTA.
Here is just an idea of what Heath would look like
standing next to Ronnie. Jay is around 260 in all
3 contests.
Jay, Ronnie and Kevin is at the beginning of 2001 judging.
Blurry Jay and Phil from 2010
Jay and Ronnie from end of 2001 prejudging
Jay and Phil from 2011 night show comparisons.
These are not scaled perfect but hopefully good
enough to get an idea.
EDIT: You'll have to click the .jpg link at the bottom
of the Coleman pics to get a better scale.
Good post. The difference in size is substantial. If I were good at Photoshop, I'd attempt to shoop the two together.
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Thanks to everyone that posts on Getbig. Just an awesome site! Killer post POTA. Any way possible you could do the same with Dorian vs Phil? Congradulations to Phil Heath on his 2011 win but King Ron is King Ron. Very much looking forward to what Mr O Phil Heath brings to the table in 2012.
Funny you should ask. I was bored tonight and created some Dorian GIFs from the 1996 German Grand Prix. He didn't do a front double bicep (for obvious reasons), but the BDB and the RLS can be compared to Phil's.
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::) phil, if he does use synthol, doesnt show any of the tell tale signs of it... unless you consider extremely developed and defined muscles to be "synthol esque".
every single pro uses seo, even arnold did
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Crazy, Phil's back is even thicker and more detailed than Colemans'. Never even realized that before.
It only seem to be so, because Phil is in better condition, he is dryer. Coleman has no cuts, he is kind of soft in these pictures. When you compare Phil in his all time best condition to Colemans semi-good condition, you are just fooling yourself.
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Phil is more complete bodybuilder to me than Ronnie and anyone else. He got the calves, forearms and the tricpes that Ronnie lacked. Ronnie does have a wider "watery" back but not as detailed and as dry as Phil's.
Moreover, Phil has the lines, shape, small and tight waistline too
Phil is the best Mr. Olympia ever ...
:D
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Phil probably does have less flaws. But then someone like Lee Labrada or Bob Paris has even less flaws......
Ronnie wins arms and legs IMO, although Phil does have sick calves and forarms. He doesn't look as dense and thick overall though.
Ronnie's back in '98 was pretty dang dry. I think 98 or 2003 Ronnie would be pretty hard to beat. Phil's back isn't actually anywhere near as big he just nailed awesome condition this year and achieved great detail, but it's still not as complete as Ronnie's.
He's pretty damn close though and can't really argue he's not as good because of the calves etc, I just think Ronnie's more impressive in a few poses, and denser overall. Phil has the genes to be the best however. I like Kai's physique more as he has more detail and size and interestingness. But Phil has it all.
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Phil has the genes to be the best however. But Phil has it all.
His skeletal structure is fucked, so how can he have the genes to be the best ever? Packing drug enhanced muscle around his structure isn't genetics, it's response and getting the quality stuff from Jay and Kerri Culter early in his career. I can't think of another a pro, who got hooked up from day one like him, other than Shawn Ray.
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Are you seriously comparing Phil to ronnie
Aside from calves and maybe abs ..
Ron is beats him EVERYWHERE
Size shape conditioning SIZE width symmetry genetics
Just every thing.... These threads are dumb
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Phil's back does not surpass this.
nobody does.
even the rear lat spread shows the christmas tree. insane.
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coleman is twice as big as that little shrimp heath. im sick of people comparing the two.
THIS
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It only seem to be so, because Phil is in better condition, he is dryer. Coleman has no cuts, he is kind of soft in these pictures. When you compare Phil in his all time best condition to Colemans semi-good condition, you are just fooling yourself.
true, ronnie peaked that year for the O. not the grand prix 99 shows
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These threads are dumb
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Phil is more complete bodybuilder to me than Ronnie and anyone else. He got the calves, forearms and the tricpes that Ronnie lacked. Ronnie does have a wider "watery" back but not as detailed and as dry as Phil's.
Moreover, Phil has the lines, shape, small and tight waistline too
Phil is the best Mr. Olympia ever ...
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yourn idiot, i think even philsulin would admit hes a tiny little tit compared to big ron
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ronnie obviously wins hands down,i cant even believe i am arguing this,but you guys are comparing bodyparts,in the ifbb competitions it is how good you look in the compulsory poses,name one compulsory pose heath can beat ronnie in,there are none its that simple.
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ronnie obviously wins hands down,i cant even believe i am arguing this,but you guys are comparing bodyparts,in the ifbb competitions it is how good you look in the compulsory poses,name one compulsory pose heath can beat ronnie in,there are none its that simple.
ab crunch.
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ab crunch,wtf is that not a madatory,abs/thighs is but ronnie wins that pose against heath.
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ab crunch,wtf is that not a madatory,abs/thighs is but ronnie wins that pose against heath.
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