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What a bunch of scare tactics and lies do you people believe? Iran is a peaceful country if you compare them to the US. Iran with nuclear weapons would keep that drawn on the map Israel in check from killing innocent Palestinian civilians.
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Religion of peace ::)
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What a bunch of scare tactics and lies do you people believe? Iran is a peaceful country if you compare them to the US. Iran with nuclear weapons would keep that drawn on the map Israel in check from killing innocent Palestinian civilians.
Nice palestinian flag in your avatar, fuckface.
On a side note, most of civilized people on earth who live in the first world are sick of you camelfuckers, with your constantly angry faces screaming that infidels should be killed. Be glad we still didnt nuke you into oblivion just for being ugly, nasty ragheads who contribute nothing to mankind.
Israel or/and the US should wipe every arab city out of the world's map.
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Nice palestinian flag in your avatar, fuckface.
On a side note, most of civilized people on earth who live in the first world are sick of you camelfuckers, with your constantly angry faces screaming that infidels should be killed. Be glad we still didnt nuke you into oblivion just for being ugly, nasty ragheads who contribute nothing to mankind.
Israel or/and the US should wipe every arab city out of the world's map.
Yes maybe a Fresh Start is the answer.
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How about this for a fresh start?
(http://recherchedelaverite.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/bomb_mecca450.jpg)
Are we really going to wait for them to get nukes seriously? All muslim islamist countries in northern africa and middle east would ally together and create a new califate, a new muslim superpower, that would want to nuke israel. These fuckers are already replacing europeans in their damn own motherlands.
You camelfuckers really think israel and the US are going to let this happen?
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What a bunch of scare tactics and lies do you people believe? Iran is a peaceful country if you compare them to the US. Iran with nuclear weapons would keep that drawn on the map Israel in check from killing innocent Palestinian civilians.
Here you are again, Jstunami--the muslim queer boy--suckingdickfor20 retard. People of getbig, below is who is making these posts.
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haha this turd lives in occident?
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Sorry, Muslims cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.
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Sorry, Muslims cannot be trusted .
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Israel is the only civilized country in that sand box you call the middle east.
I wouldn't mind if Israel controlled that entire region.
And as it's been previously stated, you cannot trust muslims with a stick of dynamite let alone a nuclear weapon.
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Israel is the only civilized country in that sand box you call the middle east.
I wouldn't mind if Israel controlled that entire region.
And as it's been previously stated, you cannot trust muslims with a stick of dynamite let alone a nuclear weapon.
You're a fucking moron. Why don't you do a body count of the dead Palestinians. Take that bullshit to some zionist website you fucking shit stain.
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Don't care... Don't think it's my job to be involved.
If they want the sand so much, they can have it.
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Arabs are pretty much on this planet to be dominated by the western culture - its even quoted in the qua-ran.
Quote:
Those you shall call *one without faith (infidels) will mount you.
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Arabs are pretty much on this planet to be dominated by the western culture - its even quoted in the qua-ran.
Quote:
Those you shall call *one without faith (infidels) will mount you.
Where've you been Stark?
No not with my mom.
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Arabs are pretty much on this planet to be dominated by the western culture - its even quoted in the qua-ran.
Quote:
Those you shall call *one without faith (infidels) will mount you from behind, and you shall buck and scream but eventually you will succumb to the West's hardcore anal raping. Sorry but muslims are inferior - FACT
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Where've you been Stark?
No not with my mom.
I spend most of my free time right now moving supplies to my new hideout in the da woods, I want to be ready when
society breaks down in a few month - I have a hard time getting my hands on guns and rifles - damn fucking liberal pacified cuntries :(
Edit, forgot to give this a racist spin: For your information, its a white hideout.
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You're a fucking moron. Why don't you do a body count of the dead Palestinians. Take that bullshit to some zionist website you fucking shit stain.
Don't understand why you're so butthurt about this, this is the way most of the civilized world views the situation.
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I spend most of my free time right now moving supplies to my new hideout in the da woods, I want to be ready when
society breaks down in a few month - I have a hard time getting my hands on guns and rifles - damn fucking liberal pacified cuntries :(
Edit, forgot to give this a racist spin: For your information, its a white hideout.
lol. got it.
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lol. got it.
We are still recruiting for a house negro tho ;D - feel free to send us your application if you aren't
work shy and are strong enough to withstand a few blows with the whip ;D
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I spend most of my free time right now moving supplies to my new hideout in the da woods, I want to be ready when
society breaks down in a few month - I have a hard time getting my hands on guns and rifles - damn fucking liberal pacified cuntries :(
Edit, forgot to give this a racist spin: For your information, its a white hideout.
Whats your exact location?
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Whats your exact location?
Sorry mate but I cannot reveal that to anybody, I have to make sure that we are not contaminating our otherwise supreme white
genepool.
This will be a new start for the white race and we want to get it right from the beginning.
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Iran is peacfull because everybody is stoned on heroin. goes from afghanistan to iran. I got much love for iran. I am muslim and know alot of people from iran. they are alot like italians family is #1.they are all loyal to their familys. you need anything and somebody from your family will help you. persians stick together
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Iran is peacfull because everybody is stoned on heroin. goes from afghanistan to iran. I got much love for iran. I am muslim and know alot of people from iran. they are alot like italians family is #1.they are all loyal to their familys. you need anything and somebody from your family will help you. persians stick together
Lots of women get stoned too.... :-\
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Fuck them. If the arabs want them destroyed they should do it themselves.
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You're a fucking moron. Why don't you do a body count of the dead Palestinians. Take that bullshit to some zionist website you fucking shit stain.
There are body counts on both sides, Palestinian fundementalist have killed many woman and children in Israel
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There are body counts on both sides, Palestinian fundementalist have killed many woman and children in Israel
I understand. My point is their hands are not clean in this either.
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I understand. My point is their hands are not clean in this either.
agree, but the entire world is an evil place, so sometimes you just have to pick the lesser of 2 evils and I am not referring to Israel, I am referring to the US
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Yea, Iranians have done so much bad to us all... ::) ::)
FFS, let the guys be as long as they stay within their borders and concentrate on their own country.
Not saying I would like them or what goes on in their country but heck, it's just that. Their country. What it has to do with you?
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LOL @ this thread.
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There are body counts on both sides, Palestinian fundementalist have killed many woman and children in Israel
The body count is not even comparable.
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There are body counts on both sides, Palestinian fundementalist have killed many woman and children in Israel
You can understand why though ? There country has been over run with theiving vermin - little by little they lose more and more. >:(
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iran actually has nice pro western people when you look in more deeper articles and books, its the religionists scum that always come in the media and decide the picture people has of the country. doesnt take away that i love to see the regime and these beards being annihilated.
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Check out Jerusalem post, they even have their own newspage for "The Iranian Threat" ::) ::)
http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/Home.aspx (http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/Home.aspx)
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=245591 (http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=245591)
'Mossad behind blast that killed Iran missile chief'
By YAAKOV KATZ
11/15/2011 00:36
Western intel official tells 'TIME' that Mossad was behind missile base blast; Khamenei appears at officer's funeral.
The Mossad was behind the explosion on Saturday that killed 17 members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, including Gen. Hassan Moghadam, the officer responsible for the development of some of Iran’s most advanced ballistic missiles, Time magazine reported Monday.
Israel has not issued an official comment on the incident except for Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who on Sunday said he would like to see more explosions in Iran. Government officials criticized Barak on Monday and said that like other cabinet ministers, he had been asked to tone down the chatter on Iran.
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Last week, Barak also broke with government policy, and in an interview with Israel Radio spoke about the International Atomic Energy Agency report released on Tuesday and the fallout Israel would face if it attacked the Islamic Republic. Israeli government policy has been to stay quiet on the issue, to prevent the world from thinking the nuclear threat is just against Israel.
“We need to remain quiet,” one official said.
Time cited a Western intelligence source as saying the Mossad was behind the explosion at the Iranian base on Saturday.
“Don’t believe the Iranians that it was an accident,” the official said.
According to the magazine, the unnamed official also said additional acts of sabotage were in the works as part of an effort to stop the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program.
“There are more bullets in the magazine,” the source was quoted as saying.
The cause of the explosion was unknown and Iran claimed it occurred when soldiers were moving explosives between bases. Barak, interviewed by Army Radio on Sunday, said he did not have details except that there had been an explosion. “May there be more like it,” he added.
Israeli involvement in such an operation would seem unlikely due to the difficulty it would encounter in infiltrating a military base like the one where the explosion took place, and which is believed to be home to Iran’s Shahab long-range ballistic missiles.
It is possible the Mossad, or another Western intelligence agency, used a proxy to carry out the attack. Israel and the US have been accused over the years of working together with various Iranian opposition groups such as the People’s Mujahidin Organization of Iran, otherwise known as MEK.
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei attended the funerals of Moghadam and the 16 other Revolutionary Guards who died in Saturday’s explosion.
“Martyr Moghadam was the main architect of the Revolutionary Guards’ cannon and missile power and the founder of the deterrent power of our country,” Hossein Salami, the deputy head of the Guards, said in a eulogy at the funeral, state broadcaster IRIB reported.
A veteran of the 1980-88 Iran- Iraq War, Moghadam’s importance was underlined by the appearance of Khamenei at his funeral and a personal visit to his family by Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi to convey President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s condolences.
Reuters contributed to this report.
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israel are just as pieces as shit as iran is.
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Another "Hey pay attention to me,I'm controversial thread" ::)
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What a bunch of scare tactics and lies do you people believe? Iran is a peaceful country if you compare them to the US. Iran with nuclear weapons would keep that drawn on the map Israel in check from killing innocent Palestinian civilians.
Shut the fuck up. It's been proven time and time again that you're not qualified to post about any subject that doesn't involve semen.
Move to Iran and be open about your homosexuality for a few months. Let us know how it works out for you.
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Shut the fuck up. It's been proven time and time again that you're not qualified to post about any subject that doesn't involve semen.
Move to Iran and be open about your homosexuality for a few months. Let us know how it works out for you.
Hello co-mod....how are you today?
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Another "Hey pay attention to me,I'm controversial thread" ::)
Whats controversial about the US media demonizing Iran? ::)
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Hello co-mod....how are you today?
Very well thank you. Have a pleasant day.
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Whats controversial about the US media demonizing Iran? ::)
When it's a well thought out post,nothing.
....he's just a troll looking for attention.
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Do you guys ACTUALLY believe that if Iran gets a nuclear missile they will ACTUALLY bomb Israel, the holy land of muslims as well as the followers of judaism and christianity, just to be bombed with Israels 200 + ILLEGAL nuclear missiles? (the number is unknown because they don't allow inspections at all!!)
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Israel's possession of nuclear weapons is NOT illegal............it is simply unspecified and undefined....they abide by a policy of nuclear ambiguity.
As for you people that criticize and demonize Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, consider this......the Palestinians have had numerous opportunities to emigrate to places such as Syria, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia where there is more than enough room for them as well as easy acclimation to that particular region's people and belief system..........except those countries refuse Palestinian immigrants.
Why? Muslim-majority nations need the Palestinians to be used a political scapegoat to keep the pressure on Israel and force resolution after resolution within the UN to constantly portray Israel as the bad guy in this situation. The Palestinians that are present in Arab countries, primarily the Gulf states, are treated as the lowest class of the entire citizenry and are looked down upon. It would be akin to the US with Jim Crow laws on the books telling South Africa under an Apartheid regime that South Africa needs to bring about equal rights for its black population.
Israel giving up land for peace will not bring peace. The dissolution of the nation of Israel will not bring peace. Appeasement does not bring peace. The existence of Muslim-dominated societies do not bring peace.
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The body count is not even comparable.
What? yes it is... they been fighting for over 3000 years, Palestine has had it's fair share of winningsYou can understand why though ? There country has been over run with theiving vermin - little by little they lose more and more. >:(
Well, Israel owned this territory between 1000- 550bc, then the Babylonians, then the Persians, then the Greeks, then the Romans, then the Barbarian and Heathens( Germanic tribes), then the Arabs, the french and the BRits, then the Ottomen Empire (turks), and many more, so point being it's the most conquered land on the Planet, anyone can claim it and believe it's there land.
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Israel is the only civilized country in that sand box you call the middle east.
I wouldn't mind if Israel controlled that entire region.
And as it's been previously stated, you cannot trust muslims with a stick of dynamite let alone a nuclear weapon.
This ^^^
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This is the smartest person in United States. ::)
Correction: He's British. But he speaks English and cares about American affairs so I'm sure Americans are willing to take him as their own. ;D
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Well... so far (surprise, surprise) USA has been the only one to use nukes against civilians causing tremendous suffer for countless people of the area.
Nukes should not spread. Only few major players should possess them to prevent major conflicts between big players - and that has worked, so IMO it's justified. And spreading of nuclear weapons is strictly prohibited by international agreements.
But to categorically say, one country would use nukes against some other country as soon as possible, is ridiculous... especially if American says that as they are the only ones using weapons of mass destruction against someone.
Another point:
Anyone realize how much knowledge and know-how is required to build a capable nuke?
I doubt if even Chinese nukes would fly to their destination if shit hit the fan... I mean how would they guide them? With smoke signals? AHHAHAHAHA
Yet alone Iranians LOL.
If they managed to put together sum' retarded dirty bomb, it would most probably just blow up in their own hands.
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What a bunch of scare tactics and lies do you people believe? Iran is a peaceful country if you compare them to the US. Iran with nuclear weapons would keep that drawn on the map Israel in check from killing innocent Palestinian civilians.
you are fucking moron but you are right that there is always some kind of scare tactics going on in the us...and the regular american always pay the price. sad thing is that many don't realize it and always get duped by filthy politicians and corporate interests.
Iran is fucking shit country. It's the young iranians who need to change things. but even if they get nuclear weapons it would be suicide for them to use it.
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Well... so far (surprise, surprise) USA has been the only one to use nukes against civilians causing tremendous suffer for countless people of the area.
Nukes should not spread. Only few major players should possess them to prevent major conflicts between big players - and that has worked, so IMO it's justified. And spreading of nuclear weapons is strictly prohibited by international agreements.
But to categorically say, one country would use nukes against some other country as soon as possible, is ridiculous... especially if American says that as they are the only ones using weapons of mass destruction against someone.
Another point:
Anyone realize how much knowledge and know-how is required to build a capable nuke?
I doubt if even Chinese nukes would fly to their destination if shit hit the fan... I mean how would they guide them? With smoke signals? AHHAHAHAHA
Yet alone Iranians LOL.
If they managed to put together sum' retarded dirty bomb, it would most probably just blow up in their own hands.
good post except for the last part. That was a bullshit move on the US part to bomb Horishima and Nagasaki, very stupid and demonic. They were monsters back then but the US is entirely different now then they were back then,
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Yes, I'm very scared of Iran. They might use harsh language or even have a rally.
Oh by the way- they fought a war with Iraq that lasted 10 years and ended in a draw. We invaded Iraq and took over the entire country in two weeks.
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Israel is the only civilized country in that sand box you call the middle east.
I wouldn't mind if Israel controlled that entire region.
::)
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isreal/palestein conflict is a complicated issue. why everyone feels the need to take a side is beyond me.
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USA has been the only one to use nukes against civilians
That is because we run shit 8)
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That is because we run shit 8)
HAHaha, bro. No.
It's because you're the only one "tough" enough to kill innocent townfull of children and women and causing decades long contamination of the area :D
You run shit?
How did you run the shit when Russians shot down a plane full of American civilians -86? HJAHAHAA, you ran your mouth 10 000 km away for a month and that was it 8)
Oh, wait... you condemned it in UN.... i'm shakin' ;D
(Fuk, I'm getting soft: That was not cool, civilians are civilians no matter the nationality.)
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It is odd that North Korea can have Nuclear weapons without anyone really doing anything but Iran can't.
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HAHaha, bro. No.
It's because you're the only one "tough" enough to kill innocent townfull of children and women and causing decades long contamination of the area :D
You run shit?
How did you run the shit when Russians shot down a plane full of American civilians -86? HJAHAHAA, you run your mouth 10 000 km away for a month and that was it 8)
Oh, wait... you condemned it in UN.... i'm shakin' ;D
no because we were the first to have nukes, dummy.
who won the cold war again ? ;)
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HAHaha, bro. No.
It's because you're the only one "tough" enough to kill innocent townfull of children and women and causing decades long contamination of the area :D
You run shit?
How did you run the shit when Russians shot down a plane full of American civilians -86? HJAHAHAA, you run your mouth 10 000 km away for a month and that was it 8)
Oh, wait... you condemned it in UN.... i'm shakin' ;D
(Fuk, I'm getting soft: That was not cool, civilians are civilians no matter the nationality.)
The nucler bombings of japan saved untold numbers of lives on all sides. If we hadnt dropped them, a whole hell of a lot more japanese civilians, japanese soldiers, Allied soldiers and personell (many of whom were drafted against their will).. the japs wouldnt have given up without a full scale invasion without dropping the bomb... we quickly and decisevly ended the conflict with the least amount of casualties possible. Yeah it sucks civilians were killed, but hey, thats war.. .and I can guarantee you if we invaded a helluva lot more civilians would have been killed.....
But im sure you know this, and youre just trolling.
Everyone wants to condemn the US for dropping those bombs, but the fact is, it saved a lot more lives than it took.
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The bombing was a terrorist act, plain and simple.
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First, we can't have Islam going on in any parts of the earth. That's a given so that has to go. Then we when they agree to that we can help and be friendly.
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The bombing was a terrorist act, plain and simple.
Can it be a terrorist act when you are actually "at war"?
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The nucler bombings of japan saved untold numbers of lives on all sides. If we hadnt dropped them, a whole hell of a lot more japanese civilians, japanese soldiers, Allied soldiers and personell (many of whom were drafted against their will).. the japs wouldnt have given up without a full scale invasion without dropping the bomb... we quickly and decisevly ended the conflict with the least amount of casualties possible. Yeah it sucks civilians were killed, but hey, thats war.. .and I can guarantee you if we invaded a helluva lot more civilians would have been killed.....
But im sure you know this, and youre just trolling.
Everyone wants to condemn the US for dropping those bombs, but the fact is, it saved a lot more lives than it took.
Japanese were crazy at the time. I admit that. And yes, war probably ended quicker than it otherwise would have.
But.
I recall having heard even Eisenhower later gave a comment that Japan was at that point already virtually beaten.
Some have stated that USA dropped these bombs mainly to frighten USSR (and of course to test nukes in practice)...
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Can it be a terrorist act when you are actually "at war"?
So only "surprises" are terrorism?
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So only "surprises" are terrorism?
Was Pearl Harbor a terrorist action?
Seems to me that in War, you fight to win, that's pretty much it.
All is fair in love and war is the saying... and it's true. If you don't want your people to be hurt, then don't attack a nation.
This goes both ways and is why I do not believe Iraq was a justified war, where Afghanistan is.
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Was Pearl Harbor a terrorist action?
Seems to me that in War, you fight to win, that's pretty much it.
All is fair in love and war is the saying... and it's true. If you don't want your people to be hurt, then don't attack a nation.
This goes both ways and is why I do not believe Iraq was a justified war, where Afghanistan is.
Pearl Harbor wasn't against civilians, it was a military base. I agree with you, all is fair in war, but the a-bomb is an equivalent of soldiers marching on the street and shooting every unarmed man, woman and children. It's not war, it's a war crime/terrorism.
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Of course iran will be demonized, Iran is a free country dude. Ahmadinejah is probably the current most awaken leader in the world
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Iran is peacfull because everybody is stoned on heroin. goes from afghanistan to iran. I got much love for iran. I am muslim and know alot of people from iran. they are alot like italians family is #1.they are all loyal to their familys. you need anything and somebody from your family will help you. persians stick together
X2
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Pearl Harbor wasn't against civilians, it was a military base. I agree with you, all is fair in war, but the a-bomb is an equivalent of soldiers marching on the street and shooting every unarmed man, woman and children. It's not war, it's a war crime/terrorism.
You'll have to excuse me for disagreeing. If the country declares war, then their people have in fact, given the power to the government to speak for them and fight on their behalf.
Those people are just as culpable as a soldier with a gun. I personally believe if you come onto my soil, we are going to go at it and that's that.
I've jumped around one the whole A-Bomb thing for and against many times... I keep coming back to believing that it was for the best.
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Israel's possession of nuclear weapons is NOT illegal............it is simply unspecified and undefined....they abide by a policy of nuclear ambiguity.
As for you people that criticize and demonize Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, consider this......the Palestinians have had numerous opportunities to emigrate to places such as Syria, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia where there is more than enough room for them as well as easy acclimation to that particular region's people and belief system..........except those countries refuse Palestinian immigrants.
Why? Muslim-majority nations need the Palestinians to be used a political scapegoat to keep the pressure on Israel and force resolution after resolution within the UN to constantly portray Israel as the bad guy in this situation. The Palestinians that are present in Arab countries, primarily the Gulf states, are treated as the lowest class of the entire citizenry and are looked down upon. It would be akin to the US with Jim Crow laws on the books telling South Africa under an Apartheid regime that South Africa needs to bring about equal rights for its black population.
Israel giving up land for peace will not bring peace. The dissolution of the nation of Israel will not bring peace. Appeasement does not bring peace. The existence of Muslim-dominated societies do not bring peace.
Your post is completely ass backwards. The Palestinians shouldn't have to move anywhere, they were there first when the UN drew Israel on the map and let the Jews move in and kick out the Palestinians from the land they where living on LOL, I can't believe you actually think it is Israel's land ;D
CalvinH this is a serious thread. You have to understand how the US media distorts things.
North Korea and Pakistan have nuclear weapons, and they have not bombed the world into oblivion, what are you scared of people? The media tries to scare people and make them like sheep. Iran with nuclear weapons tomorrow would be no different than today if Iran didn't have nuclear weapons.
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The nucler bombings of japan saved untold numbers of lives on all sides. If we hadnt dropped them, a whole hell of a lot more japanese civilians, japanese soldiers, Allied soldiers and personell (many of whom were drafted against their will).. the japs wouldnt have given up without a full scale invasion without dropping the bomb... we quickly and decisevly ended the conflict with the least amount of casualties possible. Yeah it sucks civilians were killed, but hey, thats war.. .and I can guarantee you if we invaded a helluva lot more civilians would have been killed.....
But im sure you know this, and youre just trolling.
Everyone wants to condemn the US for dropping those bombs, but the fact is, it saved a lot more lives than it took.
Since the beginning of time there has been rules in warfar that evn the most barbaric savages wouldn't break. When 2 generals go out on the field to discuss terms no one gets touched. It is a soldiers duty to die for their country. 10 000 soldier dieingt in battle does not replace even 1 innocent child of 6 years to get melted alive, or have a 7 year little girl with 100 broken bones burried under a 5 story building rubble of concrete for 72 houres waiting till she dies of dehydration. 1000 were burnt alive to death, 1000 of woman and children lived for years after that with amputated body parts and deseease that are full of pain and torutre. This is not warfar, it is cowardly and no glory involved. You can't justify the pain and sufferment it caused. Worst torment in the history of warfar and the worst part of it is it was done to civilians most of who were opposed to war. Nothing can justify this, trust me even the ones that did it regreted it.
How could take the side of someone who is going to stop a war by grabbing a 100 babies from there cribs smashing them so all there bone break and leaving them to die in a painful way
How can you take the side of someone who is going to stop a war by seting innocent civilians on fire by the hundreds and watching them squirm til they die.
How can you take the side of someone who can take 100 people and bury them alive
How can you take the side of someone who can take 100 people and there eyes out and take another 100 people and cut of a limb and take another 100 people break 20 bones on each one and then leave them alive
All these horrors combined occured and way more, the torcher and torment was of demonic nature and the sufferment was of satanic proportions. The collater damage in war must be fraction in respect to the war, fro example maybe 10% or in certain cases as high as 20% but never done deliberate anyway but in Japen it was 98% collateral damage. No general with class would take part in such disasters.
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The bombing was a terrorist act, plain and simple.
good post and to the point. It isn't if it saved lives, it is the act itself. The people of Japan wanted to fight for the emperor and their country. The US was too cowardly to stand up to them and fight them because they knew the Japanese were so loyal they would fight till most of them where dead, so the US took the pusssies way out.
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isreal/palestein conflict is a complicated issue. why everyone feels the need to take a side is beyond me.
what side?,,americana = isreal,, there is no side,, americnaa and israel is one country ,,israel is the 51 state of the united states of america INFACT! anything isreal start ....americana will finish and vise versa
there is no sides....americanos and isrealos are same ,, same exact people ,, all inteligence is working together ,, everything ordered by americana goverment where americnaa can not seen as doing...is done by isreal ,, and vise versa,,
the 2 countries which as i said is one country are so close....that today its hard to seperate them when it come to top missions which are doen together wether you know it or not,,you have ireali pilots in idayton ohio flyign americano aircraft for americano airforce ....actualy FLYING IT lol into missions! the 2 countries = 1
and both want iran with out nuclear wepn ,, they will go into war on this one
gh15 approved
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Since the beginning of time there has been rules in warfar that evn the most barbaric savages wouldn't break. When 2 generals go out on the field to discuss terms no one gets touched. It is a soldiers duty to die for their country. 10 000 soldier dieingt in battle does not replace even 1 innocent child of 6 years to get melted alive, or have a 7 year little girl with 100 broken bones burried under a 5 story building rubble of concrete for 72 houres waiting till she dies of dehydration. 1000 were burnt alive to death, 1000 of woman and children lived for years after that with amputated body parts and deseease that are full of pain and torutre. This is not warfar, it is cowardly and no glory involved. You can't justify the pain and sufferment it caused. Worst torment in the history of warfar and the worst part of it is it was done to civilians most of who were opposed to war. Nothing can justify this, trust me even the ones that did it regreted it.
How could take the side of someone who is going to stop a war by grabbing a 100 babies from there cribs smashing them so all there bone break and leaving them to die in a painful way
How can you take the side of someone who is going to stop a war by seting innocent civilians on fire by the hundreds and watching them squirm til they die.
How can you take the side of someone who can take 100 people and bury them alive
How can you take the side of someone who can take 100 people and there eyes out and take another 100 people and cut of a limb and take another 100 people break 20 bones on each one and then leave them alive
All these horrors combined occured and way more, the torcher and torment was of demonic nature and the sufferment was of satanic proportions. The collater damage in war must be fraction in respect to the war, fro example maybe 10% or in certain cases as high as 20% but never done deliberate anyway but in Japen it was 98% collateral damage. No general with class would take part in such disasters.
good post, the US likes to make it's own history so people living in the country this it is the best thing in the world and very peaceful etc etc, when in fact the country terrorized the Japanese civilian population beyond any terrorist act to date.
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Sorry mate but I cannot reveal that to anybody, I have to make sure that we are not contaminating our otherwise supreme white
genepool.
This will be a new start for the white race and we want to get it right from the beginning.
I come from a long line of Whiteys, I am from the dominant White Man Race - The Poms
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Bro i am not on amyone side but a 2 year old can see that the chart is biased, cmon Wiggs you are smart you know this.
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Bro i am not on amyone side but a 2 year old can see that the chart is biased, cmon Wiggs you are smart you know this.
Even so, It's fact that Palestine has been consistantly hamstrung.
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Even so, It's fact that Palestine has been consistantly hamstrung.
true, but let's not exagerate the details and this will make for a good thread 8)
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Since the beginning of time there has been rules in warfar that evn the most barbaric savages wouldn't break. When 2 generals go out on the field to discuss terms no one gets touched. It is a soldiers duty to die for their country. 10 000 soldier dieingt in battle does not replace even 1 innocent child of 6 years to get melted alive, or have a 7 year little girl with 100 broken bones burried under a 5 story building rubble of concrete for 72 houres waiting till she dies of dehydration. 1000 were burnt alive to death, 1000 of woman and children lived for years after that with amputated body parts and deseease that are full of pain and torutre. This is not warfar, it is cowardly and no glory involved. You can't justify the pain and sufferment it caused. Worst torment in the history of warfar and the worst part of it is it was done to civilians most of who were opposed to war. Nothing can justify this, trust me even the ones that did it regreted it.
How could take the side of someone who is going to stop a war by grabbing a 100 babies from there cribs smashing them so all there bone break and leaving them to die in a painful way
How can you take the side of someone who is going to stop a war by seting innocent civilians on fire by the hundreds and watching them squirm til they die.
How can you take the side of someone who can take 100 people and bury them alive
How can you take the side of someone who can take 100 people and there eyes out and take another 100 people and cut of a limb and take another 100 people break 20 bones on each one and then leave them alive
All these horrors combined occured and way more, the torcher and torment was of demonic nature and the sufferment was of satanic proportions. The collater damage in war must be fraction in respect to the war, fro example maybe 10% or in certain cases as high as 20% but never done deliberate anyway but in Japen it was 98% collateral damage. No general with class would take part in such disasters.
Not that I justify the bombing of japan but do you know of the atrocities commited against chinese civilians (infants and children) by the japanese? Talk about barbaric...
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what side?,,americana = isreal,, there is no side,, americnaa and israel is one country ,,israel is the 51 state of the united states of america INFACT! anything isreal start ....americana will finish and vise versa
there is no sides....americanos and isrealos are same ,, same exact people ,, all inteligence is working together ,, everything ordered by americana goverment where americnaa can not seen as doing...is done by isreal ,, and vise versa,,
the 2 countries which as i said is one country are so close....that today its hard to seperate them when it come to top missions which are doen together wether you know it or not,,you have ireali pilots in idayton ohio flyign americano aircraft for americano airforce ....actualy FLYING IT lol into missions! the 2 countries = 1
and both want iran with out nuclear wepn ,, they will go into war on this one
gh15 approved
isreal and palestein are the two sides.
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Not that I justify the bombing of japan but do you know of the atrocities commuted against chinese civilians (infants and children) by the japanese? Talk about barbaric...
Yes fully aware, I have studied history but that was in a different era, fucken savages, shit man the more you look back at mankind, fuck the whole planet has cause horror.
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Got to laugh at people who actually give a fuck about the UN's opinion.
4,000+ Syrians have been killed by Bashar Al-Assad in the last six months and the UN can't even agree on a sternly-worded letter of condemnation but if Israel or the US kills a single civilian the entire organization screams bloody murder. Can't expect much, though, when the Human Rights council is dominated by some of the most egregious violators of human rights on the planet. ::)
Elect Ron Paul so we can stop funding this shitty, corrupt, incompetent organization.
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Got to laugh at people who actually give a fuck about the UN's opinion.
4,000+ Syrians have been killed by Bashar Al-Assad in the last six months and the UN can't even agree on a sternly-worded letter of condemnation but if Israel or the US kills a single civilian the entire organization screams bloody murder. Can't expect much, though, when the Human Rights council is dominated by some of the most egregious violators of human rights on the planet. ::)
Elect Ron Paul so we can stop funding this shitty, corrupt, incompetent organization.
way to reverberate talking points like a fucking moron
the u.n. can not do anything without u.s. approval. the u.n. can not do anything to stop any actions the u.s. wants to take. there is absolutely no reason to be opposed to the u.n. on any grounds. it is the attempt, and the progress towards, world cooperation.
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what side?,,americana = isreal,, there is no side,, americnaa and israel is one country ,,israel is the 51 state of the united states of america INFACT! anything isreal start ....americana will finish and vise versa
there is no sides....americanos and isrealos are same ,, same exact people ,, all inteligence is working together ,, everything ordered by americana goverment where americnaa can not seen as doing...is done by isreal ,, and vise versa,,
the 2 countries which as i said is one country are so close....that today its hard to seperate them when it come to top missions which are doen together wether you know it or not,,you have ireali pilots in idayton ohio flyign americano aircraft for americano airforce ....actualy FLYING IT lol into missions! the 2 countries = 1
and both want iran with out nuclear wepn ,, they will go into war on this one
gh15 approved
THis is correct, but it is a little bit misleading... israel simply has too much leverage for the US to abandon it, that's why the saudies who give us oil make no mention of it to our face even though they have so much leverage with us because they went behind opec and gave us oil. Of course they turn around and fund iran's agenda against the US, but this is mostly to save face in the muslim world because they lose face by giving us oil, but also because some people in saudi arabia are a part of the iranian empire so that's that
this game that iran is playing by goading israel, america's military base in the middle east, into bombing it's technological infrustructure also has to do with leverage. if iran actually made nules they would panic lol, they think, this was never meant to happen... we only wanted the possibility of nukes as leverage, not actual nukes. if irael bombs iran there will be photos of dying people, dignitaries making eloquent speeches, and then when iran has their hand in libya the rest of the world shrugs and says, well we'll let them have it, I mean they got BOMBED, come on let them have it...
people think wars are about things like oil or whatever or idealogy, no no, the value of these things is what do they translate to in the language of power, how much leverage do they give us and of course what infrastructure do we have that allow us to use this leverage, because oil without refinaries is dirt, and it's not so much that gasoline is needed to fuel cars, but now our dependence on saudi arabia is lowered to their price is lowered and israel sits a little easier, and things like the invasion of iraq and libya don't happen therefor relieving america from the status of evil empire is lifted and we have more say in matters like the g20 or whatever it is, not to mention the dollar is worth more because we need not spend money on war, therefor giving us leverage with china because now chinese investments in america are not needed...
israel costs us xyz amount of money because muslim countries who sell us oil say pay us a higher price because we dont like israel fuck you, they also cost us money to protect them, they cost us leverage in a lot of places, in any organization that includes muslim countries, we have less say because of israel, but then again we have jewish investments in america, we have some jewish leaders, and of course it scores us points in organizations where there are countires that sympathize with israel, but if the price of israel one day became to high, trust me they would be cut off... there is already anti jewish sentiment in the US, and if saudi arabia did not go behind opec to give us oil when they did, israel may not have celebrated its 42nd birthday
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way to reverberate talking points like a fucking moron
the u.n. can not do anything without u.s. approval. the u.n. can not do anything to stop any actions the u.s. wants to take. there is absolutely no reason to be opposed to the u.n. on any grounds. it is the attempt, and the progress towards, world cooperation.
Please shut the fuck up about topics you know nothing about (i.e. everything). So you think the US isn't approving of a sternly-worded letter of condemnation for Syria? ::)
The UN is the most wasteful, corrupt and incompetent organization on the planet and the US has no purpose being in it. Not only that, but we're on the hook for over $6 billion a year (~23% of its yearly operating budget, Japan is responsible for another ~11-13%) despite the fact that there are 196 nations in it.
Like the League of Nations when the dictators, despots and tyrants became the majority, the UN has outlived its purpose.
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No country on the planet can do what they want in this day and age, to many people in the world to control, public opinion is power.. So it has nothing to do with what UN and US cooperate on, it's what the public is in favour on, and they usually side with UN
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Please shut the fuck up about topics you know nothing about (i.e. everything). So you think the US isn't approving of a sternly-worded letter of condemnation for Syria? ::)
The UN is the most wasteful, corrupt and incompetent organization on the planet and the US has no purpose being in it. Not only that, but we're on the hook for over $6 billion a year (~23% of its yearly operating budget, Japan is responsible for another ~11-13%) despite the fact that there are 196 nations in it.
Like the League of Nations when the dictators, despots and tyrants became the majority, the UN has outlived its purpose.
I was just about to comment on your post but got deleted, probably because it was a little bit far-fetched.
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good post and to the point. It isn't if it saved lives, it is the act itself. The people of Japan wanted to fight for the emperor and their country. The US was too cowardly to stand up to them and fight them because they knew the Japanese were so loyal they would fight till most of them where dead, so the US took the pusssies way out.
Go fuck yourself. You've been told that you have no knowledge base of anything outside of a hanging scrotum, and you're too fucking stupid to converse with adults.
Japan attacked the US. The US warned Japan what would happen if the war did not end. Japan ignored the warnings.
Was it unfortunate that it had to happen? Yes. Atrocious? Unfathomably. But an invasion of Japan, which appeared to have been the only other way to end the war, would have cost even more lives.
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what side?,,americana = isreal,, there is no side,, americnaa and israel is one country ,,israel is the 51 state of the united states of america INFACT! anything isreal start ....americana will finish and vise versa
there is no sides....americanos and isrealos are same ,, same exact people ,, all inteligence is working together ,, everything ordered by americana goverment where americnaa can not seen as doing...is done by isreal ,, and vise versa,,
the 2 countries which as i said is one country are so close....that today its hard to seperate them when it come to top missions which are doen together wether you know it or not,,you have ireali pilots in idayton ohio flyign americano aircraft for americano airforce ....actualy FLYING IT lol into missions! the 2 countries = 1
and both want iran with out nuclear wepn ,, they will go into war on this one
gh15 approved
I disagree... Puerto Rico is the 51st state.
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Go fuck yourself. You've been told that you have no knowledge base of anything outside of a hanging scrotum, and you're too fucking stupid to converse with adults.
Japan attacked the US. The US warned Japan what would happen if the war did not end. Japan ignored the warnings.
Was it unfortunate that it had to happen? Yes. Atrocious? Unfathomably. But an invasion of Japan, which appeared to have been the only other way to end the war, would have cost even more lives.
So I am suppose to just turn around like a bitch and take it up the ass because some GOP non thinker who listens to conservative dribble tells me I have no knowledge? LOL get lost. You tend and most conservatives tend not to think for themselves, it's pretty obvious, since you can tell what they will say based on what Rush said earlier that day or what some Fox news person has said.
The bottom line is not that it saved lives, it is that Japan wanted to fight to the death, they loved their emperor and their country, more loyal than most Americans. The Americans where afraid of a full invasion and knew they would lose so many soldiers they took the pussy way out, like a sucker punch in a fight. It saves time, but it's a pussy move.
Also if you talking about saving lives, didn't George W Bush send US military oversees after an unknown enemy and invade a country based on lies and lost more soldiers lives than where lost on 9/11, what a total lose and tragedy for the families.
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So I am suppose to just turn around like a bitch and take it up the ass because some GOP non thinker who listens to conservative dribble tells me I have no knowledge? LOL get lost. You tend and most conservatives tend not to think for themselves, it's pretty obvious, since you can tell what they will say based on what Rush said earlier that day or what some Fox news person has said.
I'm a registered independent, dipshit. I never watch Fox News, nor do I listen to Rush Limbaugh. I actually do think for myself, and check my facts before posting. Regardless of affiliation, you're just plain wrong all the time.
The bottom line is not that it saved lives, it is that Japan wanted to fight to the death, they loved their emperor and their country, more loyal than most Americans. The Americans where afraid of a full invasion and knew they would lose so many soldiers they took the pussy way out, like a sucker punch in a fight. It saves time, but it's a pussy move.
A sucker punch by definition, means no warning. The US warned Japan about the bomb on multiple occasions. Mark another "WRONG" in your column. But, if you can wrap your incredibly small ability to think for a second, you just criticized America for taking a route that would save more American lives.
Also if you talking about saving lives, didn't George W Bush send US military oversees after an unknown enemy and invade a country based on lies and lost more soldiers lives than where lost on 9/11, what a total lose and tragedy for the families.
What the fuck does that have to do with the topic at hand. Holy deflection, Batman! (or, in your case, Buttman).
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Go fuck yourself. You've been told that you have no knowledge base of anything outside of a hanging scrotum, and you're too fucking stupid to converse with adults.
Japan attacked the US. The US warned Japan what would happen if the war did not end. Japan ignored the warnings.
Was it unfortunate that it had to happen? Yes. Atrocious? Unfathomably. But an invasion of Japan, which appeared to have been the only other way to end the war, would have cost even more lives.
Bro, I think America is a good country at present and contribute a great deal of good things globaly, but like I said at the present. Seriously don't fall for this horseshit propaganda that nuking civilians was the only way, no one currently serving in the military as a senior officer world wide will agree with you. Miliatary is abuot honour and glory not demonic acts based on a few assholes who couldn't wait to try out there knew technology like some 6 year old who can't wait to play with his new toy.
"the only way to end the war'' you bought that line. Trigger happy Pre-madonnas is all this was, it was a massacre and against every the geneva convention stands for, it was war crimes against humanity and against every military principle since the greco-roman days.
If it would have cost more lives, the lives would have been soldiers not civilians and not innocent old ladies and infant babies, it would have been men that have been sworn in have voluntarly agrred to die and experience the horrors of war
.......but like I said the US today would never do that and has become a great nation
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I'm a registered independent, dipshit. I never watch Fox News, nor do I listen to Rush Limbaugh. I actually do think for myself, and check my facts before posting. Regardless of affiliation, you're just plain wrong all the time.
A sucker punch by definition, means no warning. The US warned Japan about the bomb on multiple occasions. Mark another "WRONG" in your column. But, if you can wrap your incredibly small ability to think for a second, you just criticized America for taking a route that would save more American lives.
What the fuck does that have to do with the topic at hand. Holy deflection, Batman! (or, in your case, Buttman).
That is good to hear that you are not another GOP spewing idiot that listens to talk radio. I am sure you have some wrong things you have posted, I have too, but to claim I am wrong or you are wrong ALL the time is beyond rational. It is like Rush Limbaugh saying he is right 99.5% of the time, it is just stupid.
Sucker punch, similar, yeah they warned Japan, but the civilians were defenseless against the A bomb, ok then let's compare it to kicking someone when their unconscious in the head. Is that better for you to understand? The civilians in the cities where defenseless, making it a terrorist act and major pussy move by the US.
The last point was you said it would save lives, the a bomb would save lives. Did it, no one knows. The US was scared to lose soldiers though as they always are. Compare it to 9/11, 3,000 some people died, ok terrorist killed 3,000 people, if the US wanted to save lives, they wouldn't have sent over their soldiers only to lose more than 3,000 soldier's lives in return, they would have kept their soldiers home and saved their lives. The US could have spent the time to build up security inside the country and for it's incoming plans, boats, people, etc etc, instead of sending over US troops.
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Bro, I think America is a good country at present and contribute a great deal of good things globaly, but like I said at the present. Seriously don't fall for this horseshit propaganda that nuking civilians was the only way, no one currently serving in the military as a senior officer world wide will agree with you. Miliatary is abuot honour and glory not demonic acts based on a few assholes who couldn't wait to try out there knew technology like some 6 year old who can't wait to play with his new toy.
"the only way to end the war'' you bought that line. Trigger happy Pre-madonnas is all this was, it was a massacre and against every the geneva convention stands for, it was war crimes against humanity and against every military principle since the greco-roman days.
If it would have cost more lives, the lives would have been soldiers not civilians and not innocent old ladies and infant babies, it would have been men that have been sworn in have voluntarly agrred to die and experience the horrors of war
.......but like I said the US today would never do that and has become a great nation
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honor and glory ::)
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honor and glory ::)
Politicians that start war are scum, most of them anyway, and yes war is profitable business and the ones behind the scene have no honour, but let's not forget that countries by the hundreds have struggled to survive in this world throughout the last 5000 years and many races have completely been knocked off the map, we have knowned less the 200 years of piece in the last 5000 so yes the simple soldier trying to defend his race, for him it is about honour and glory.
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honor and glory is rhetoric, one of the things soldiers are promised is high status when they come back from war, of course this is nothing compared to the trauma they endured, really it's sad and pathetic that honor and glory is what they trade their lives for. What glory, who gets doors opened for them because they served, who has their meals paid for in restaurants, who gets laid because of being a solider... no one, especially not sailors, if ur in the navy dont tell women that they'll think you're gay lol
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Sucker punch, similar, yeah they warned Japan, but the civilians were defenseless against the A bomb, ok then let's compare it to kicking someone when their unconscious in the head. Is that better for you to understand? The civilians in the cities where defenseless, making it a terrorist act and major pussy move by the US.
It's a pussy move to not want to lose more than the 400,000 they already lost? The warned Japan, then dropped leaflets in the cities telling them to evacuate. And, once again to illustrate the point you seem to forget - THEY STARTED IT.
The last point was you said it would save lives, the a bomb would save lives. Did it, no one knows. The US was scared to lose soldiers though as they always are. Compare it to 9/11, 3,000 some people died, ok terrorist killed 3,000 people, if the US wanted to save lives, they wouldn't have sent over their soldiers only to lose more than 3,000 soldier's lives in return, they would have kept their soldiers home and saved their lives. The US could have spent the time to build up security inside the country and for it's incoming plans, boats, people, etc etc, instead of sending over US troops.
American lives is the point, and that's indisputable.
In the same papragraph, you state that the US is "always scared to lose soldiers" and then state they jumped the gun and shipped soldiers to die in Iraq. Do you see how you make little sense. You're all over the map. onetime shares your opinion in concept - you should just sit back and read his posts and learn how to have a coherant discussion.
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Bro, I think America is a good country at present and contribute a great deal of good things globaly, but like I said at the present. Seriously don't fall for this horseshit propaganda that nuking civilians was the only way, no one currently serving in the military as a senior officer world wide will agree with you. Miliatary is abuot honour and glory not demonic acts based on a few assholes who couldn't wait to try out there knew technology like some 6 year old who can't wait to play with his new toy.
"the only way to end the war'' you bought that line. Trigger happy Pre-madonnas is all this was, it was a massacre and against every the geneva convention stands for, it was war crimes against humanity and against every military principle since the greco-roman days.
If it would have cost more lives, the lives would have been soldiers not civilians and not innocent old ladies and infant babies, it would have been men that have been sworn in have voluntarly agrred to die and experience the horrors of war
.......but like I said the US today would never do that and has become a great nation
I appreciate your response, but I think your bolded part above is too simple an explanation of what happened.
First, you have to take into consideration the context at the time - the US had already endured over 400,000 casualties, so the tolerance for sacrificing more American lives at that point was problably extremely low. It wasn't about civilian vs military - it was about American vs the country that attacked them. Honor and glory doesn't hold up here - there were no style points at this time, only getting the thing over with.
But that's not the main point I want to discuss. I did not, as you say, "fall for propaganda bullshit". I am drawing my conclusion based what happend. And what happened was that the US dropped an atomic bomb on Japan, and they didn't surrender. They had to do it twice for Japan to give up.
So, if a nuclear bomb was not enough to get Japan to stop fighting, what do you believe would have? I'm seriously asking. If you have concrete information that suggests alternate, feasible, realistic plans outside of the bomb were available and ready to go, please share. You may be a WW2 history buff and know a bunch of things that I do not. But, based on what I typed above, I'm having a hard time believing it existed.
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I appreciate your response, but I think your bolded part above is too simple an explanation of what happened.
First, you have to take into consideration the context at the time - the US had already endured over 400,000 casualties, so the tolerance for sacrificing more American lives at that point was problably extremely low. It wasn't about civilian vs military - it was about American vs the country that attacked them. Honor and glory doesn't hold up here - there were no style points at this time, only getting the thing over with.
But that's not the main point I want to discuss. I did not, as you say, "fall for propaganda bullshit". I am drawing my conclusion based what happend. And what happened was that the US dropped an atomic bomb on Japan, and they didn't surrender. They had to do it twice for Japan to give up.
So, if a nuclear bomb was not enough to get Japan to stop fighting, what do you believe would have? I'm seriously asking. If you have concrete information that suggests alternate, feasible, realistic plans outside of the bomb were available and ready to go, please share. You may be a WW2 history buff and know a bunch of things that I do not. But, based on what I typed above, I'm having a hard time believing it existed.
Yes I agree in this case the enemy had no honour or glory and they were acting barbaric and there civilians paid for it, but if the entire scenerio played out in the same manner the US of today would not take that approach, they would simply invade the country just like they did Irag, the honourable way, not use a weapon of mass-destruction that can lead to nuclear- holcucost and bring us back to the barbaric ages.
If we are playing a game of numbers, I would agree with you, but my mind has been set on military history since I was young, have practically memorized the entire Sun Tzu and all I am saying is that many war stories have endured the test of time some cassic battles include the Peleponesian wars, general Barkus and Carthage vs Romans, Nepoleon vs the Duke of Wellington, and general Patton's third Army, these are stories that will be enjoyed despite the horrors that occured, and the atomic bombs dropped on Japen will always be viewed as a shameful act and probably 1 of the worst if not the worst atrocity commited to man kind makes general Custer look like an angel, The headlines in the US at the time didn't outline this but since then the headlines across the entire world in over 200 countries have condemned this act. If you travel to foreign countries and asked the average historian of this act, he or she utterly discusted by it, this cannot be denied.
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Please shut the fuck up about topics you know nothing about (i.e. everything). So you think the US isn't approving of a sternly-worded letter of condemnation for Syria? ::)
The UN is the most wasteful, corrupt and incompetent organization on the planet and the US has no purpose being in it. Not only that, but we're on the hook for over $6 billion a year (~23% of its yearly operating budget, Japan is responsible for another ~11-13%) despite the fact that there are 196 nations in it.
Like the League of Nations when the dictators, despots and tyrants became the majority, the UN has outlived its purpose.
THIS IS VERY SIMPLE..
THE U.N. CAN NOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT U.S. APPROVAL.
THE U.S. CAN DO WHATEVER IT WANTS WITHOUT U.N. APPROVAL.
THE U.N. IS THE ONE ORGANIZATION ON THE PLANET WHERE WORLD COOPERATION IS POSSIBLE.
6 BILLION DOLLARS IS 1/500TH OF OUR YEARLY BUDGET.
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THIS IS VERY SIMPLE..
THE U.N. CAN NOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT U.S. APPROVAL.
THE U.S. CAN DO WHATEVER IT WANTS WITHOUT U.N. APPROVAL.
THE U.N. IS THE ONE ORGANIZATION ON THE PLANET WHERE WORLD COOPERATION IS POSSIBLE.
6 BILLION DOLLARS IS 1/500TH OF OUR YEARLY BUDGET.
World cooperation is not possible in the UN, in fact they fight over just defining terms and other minutia. Doubt you could even derive a consensus for what constitutes need. It's a decadent waste and time to go. Our 6 billion would be better spent on our people.
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THIS IS VERY SIMPLE..
THE U.N. CAN NOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT U.S. APPROVAL.
THE U.S. CAN DO WHATEVER IT WANTS WITHOUT U.N. APPROVAL.
THE U.N. IS THE ONE ORGANIZATION ON THE PLANET WHERE WORLD COOPERATION IS POSSIBLE.
6 BILLION DOLLARS IS 1/500TH OF OUR YEARLY BUDGET.
The UN is amazing, guys! 4,000 dead in Syria and they can’t even agree on THE WORDING IN A LETTER CONDEMNING ASSAD.
Nice meltdown, you thieving crackhead community college student. Fact of the matter is that voting records have shown that almost every country outside of Britain and Israel votes against the US more often than they vote with it. These are the same countries that we shell out billions of dollars to every year on top of our UN financing.
The UN has more authoritarian states as members than it does democracies. It is a corrupt, wasteful and incredibly incompetent organization whose authoritarian members use its venue as means to demonize the US in an attempt to cover up for their own lack of basic human rights and brutality. The UN gives a forum for free speech to the same people who actively work to squash it in their own countries. That is the epitome of hypocrisy.
The fact that the UN Human Rights Council, which sets human rights policy for the organization, has such egregious violators of human rights like Saudi Arabia, China, Pakistan, (formerly) Libya and (proposed) Syria as members says all that needs to be said about that pathetic excuse for an organization. Also keep in mind that this is the second attempt at a human rights council as the last one ended up packed with human rights-violating dictatorships and devolved into nothing more than a US/Israel bash-fest.
I’m not even going to get topics like how every UN peacekeeping mission (which is always a day late and a dollar short, by the way) usually does more harm than good. Gang rapes, extrajudicial killings and spreading of foreign disease are the norm for UN peacekeepers. Doing their job? Not so much.
One of the best things about Ron Paul is that he knows the UN is waging a war on US sovereignty and will eventually remove us from that abomination of an organization.
There is no purpose for the USA to be in the UN and it benefits us in no way. We know who our allies are and the billions of dollars we spend on it every year while every country and their mother bashes us on the side can be better spent elsewhere. We rightfully defunded the politically-motivated UNESCO two weeks ago. That was a great first step. Next up is defunding the entire organization.
Nice caps-lock meltdown by the way, kid. This isn’t your community college class where showing up gets you an “A” and screaming at the top of your lungs at the Chinese TA isn't going to get you anywhere.
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Who are we kidding people, Iran already has many nukes. Hell Bill Gates probably has a suit case nuke behind a hidden wall in his library.
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Yes, UN would be better without it's most aggressive and corrupt member, USA.
No question about it. Then other, civilized countries could at least effectively cooperate and strengthen their relations!
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Yes, UN would be better without it's most aggressive and corrupt member, USA.
No question about it. Then other, civilized countries could at least effectively cooperate and strengthen their relations!
x2 and Palestine would be a country by now! Sanctions on Israel, no trade with those demons!!!
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Yes, UN would be better without it's most aggressive and corrupt member, USA.
No question about it. Then other, civilized countries could at least effectively cooperate and strengthen their relations!
Bahahaha, as if. And who will fund it? The US currently funds 1/4 of its annual budget with Japan picking up another 13%. So that's 2 countries funding almost 40% of the entire organization, despite there being 196 member states. You deadbeat EU countries are even more broke than the US is so it certainly won't be you guys picking up the slack.
When the US leaves the UN it will quickly crumble behind us. :)
You are an atrocious troll, by the way. How many hours every day do you spend talking about America and praising Russia? Someone needs a new hobby.
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Bahahaha, as if. And who will fund it? The US currently funds 1/4 of its annual budget with Japan picking up another 13%. So that's 2 countries funding almost 40% of the entire organization, despite there being 196 member states. You deadbeat EU countries are even more broke than the US is so it certainly won't be you guys picking up the slack.
When the US leaves the UN it will quickly crumble behind us. :)
You are an atrocious troll, by the way. How many hours every day do you spend talking about America and praising Russia? Someone needs a new hobby.
it would be great if the UN never existed, that would mean Israel wouldn't exist and the Jews would have had to pull themselves up by there boot straps and get on with life.
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It's obvious that you don't like the jews, but the birth of UN was after ww2 and Isreal has survived for 3000 years with every race known to man trying to exterminate them, not taking sides, just saying
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It's obvious that you don't like the jews, but the birth of UN was after ww2 and Isreal has survived for 3000 years with every race known to man trying to exterminate them, not taking sides, just saying
Modern day Israel wouldn't exist, the Israel that took Palestinian land, Israel with state of the art weapons, etc etc, free money flowing in from US, it would just be a place were mostly Palestinians lived, because it was their land at that time, then the Jew invaders came with a pity party to boot from the UN. Jew's never earned it, they got it through pure pity, they are targeted for extermination because of their actions, people hate them around the world for a reason.
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Modern day Israel wouldn't exist, the Israel that took Palestinian land, Israel with state of the art weapons, etc etc, free money flowing in from US, it would just be a place were mostly Palestinians lived, because it was their land at that time, then the Jew invaders came with a pity party to boot from the UN. Jew's never earned it, they got it through pure pity, they are targeted for extermination because of their actions, people hate them around the world for a reason.
oh I see, you mean Israel, the state, wouldn't exist, as in maybe the Palestinan's would control the entire region. Man is that region ever going to know piece?
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Modern day Israel wouldn't exist, the Israel that took Palestinian land, Israel with state of the art weapons, etc etc, free money flowing in from US, it would just be a place were mostly Palestinians lived, because it was their land at that time, then the Jew invaders came with a pity party to boot from the UN. Jew's never earned it, they got it through pure pity, they are targeted for extermination because of their actions, people hate them around the world for a reason.
Your joking right...any grasp of history. U ragheads are sooo worthless.
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x2 and Palestine would be a country by now! Sanctions on Israel, no trade with those demons!!!
The world laughs at Palestine. You have been melting down now for 5 years. You will always be Israel's bitch.
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What a bunch of scare tactics and lies do you people believe? Iran is a peaceful country if you compare them to the US. Iran with nuclear weapons would keep that drawn on the map Israel in check from killing innocent Palestinian civilians.
Yeah, whatever you say slick...
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oh I see, you mean Israel, the state, wouldn't exist, as in maybe the Palestinan's would control the entire region. Man is that region ever going to know piece?
No. They hate each other as much as they hate Israel and the US. We're just the convenient scapegoat for their leaders. The Arabs and Persians have been fighting each other for thousands of years.
it would be great if the UN never existed, that would mean Israel wouldn't exist and the Jews would have had to pull themselves up by there boot straps and get on with life.
Boring gimmick.
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oh I see, you mean Israel, the state, wouldn't exist, as in maybe the Palestinan's would control the entire region. Man is that region ever going to know piece?
don't think so. As long as Israel is a state their will never be peace, it is stolen land, and no one who has something stolen from them is going to be ok with living next to the thief.
Yeah, whatever you say slick...
So are you scared that North Korea and Pakistan have nukes? What is the difference. Iran may talk a lot of talk, but when have they backed up their talk? On the other hand you have the USA, the only country to use nuclear weapons(on civilians), shouldn't the USA look at itself and ask are we qualified to have nuclear weapons?
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it would be great if the UN never existed, that would mean Israel wouldn't exist and the Jews would have had to pull themselves up by there boot straps and get on with life.
But that's not the way history went down. ha, loser.
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Once the world gets off oil, Muslims will fade into the ashes of history. When that happens, I give it less than six months until they're killing each other in full out war as no oil = no means of supporting their populace. What are they going to export? Sand?
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You keep saying Israel stole the land, but Israel was the owner of that land Between 1000BC- to 550 BC, ya I know it was a long time ago, but coming back to claim the land isn't exactly stealing it
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You are an atrocious troll, by the way. How many hours every day do you spend talking about America and praising Russia? Someone needs a new hobby.
Well... it's kind of part of my hobby; studying world politics. Very interesting. It's like passion for me. No trolling at all :-*
I think that's not the worst hobby one can have :)
(Plus you have mistaken something. Finland, my country, is among the most financially strong European countries. )
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Well... it's kind of part of my hobby; studying world politics. Very interesting. It's like passion for me. No trolling at all :-*
I think that's not the worst hobby one can have :)
(Plus you have mistaken something. Finland, my country, is among the most financially strong European countries. )
You study world politics? Good joke. You're borderline retarded and almost as bad of a troll as Jtsunami.
And Finland is a Euro country. There is nothing financially strong about it. Wait until the PIIGS start defaulting (and they will default). :)
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This guy is a Fin and loves Russia...what kind of retard are you.
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You keep saying Israel stole the land, but Israel was the owner of that land Between 1000BC- to 550 BC, ya I know it was a long time ago, but coming back to claim the land isn't exactly stealing it
Yeah they did, and before then someone else owned it, car's transfer ownership, so Israel can just waltz in on the Palestinians land and setup shop? If you sell your house, then you want to move back in 5 years later do you think the owners would be ok with that?
Bottom line is the UN gave the Jew's and made Israel a state out of pity, it is a pity state, pure and simple, stolen land of the people living on it, everyday they steal more with settlements.
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Sure thing...there were plenty of Jews there before the state of Israel came into existance. Do the world a favor and all you muslims commit mass suicide...u bring nothing to the world....nothing. All the misery you assholes cause will never be forgiven.
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so Israel can just waltz in on the Palestinians land and setup shop?
Yes, that's exactly how the world works dipshit. If you can't defend your land from those who wish to take, then you lose your land. Not too hard to understand.
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Yeah they did, and before then someone else owned it, car's transfer ownership, so Israel can just waltz in on the Palestinians land and setup shop? If you sell your house, then you want to move back in 5 years later do you think the owners would be ok with that?
Bottom line is the UN gave the Jew's and made Israel a state out of pity, it is a pity state, pure and simple, stolen land of the people living on it, everyday they steal more with settlements.
The Assyrians and the Babylonians did not buy Israel's house, they came in and took it by force. I understand once you sell a house you can't come back to it, but there was no house sold it was taken so to answer your question if my house is taken from me, of course I will be back to claim it, however, of course at one point it was Palestinian territory as well so they have a right to claim it as well. I ain't taking sides but I think both Israel and Palestine have a right to the land now it's a political game, very complicated issue
Assyria conquered the northern kingdom in 720 BC, Shalmanaser, Tiglath Piliser, Sargon, Sennacherib, Esarhaddon, and Ashurbanipal
Babylonia conquered the southern kingdom including Jerusalem, 550 BC Nebuchadnezzar. Belshazzar, Babylonian exile
When the Roman took over the land they changed the name Israel to Judea and Galalee, and the temple was destroyed 70 AD known as the first revolt the second revolt took place 150AD during Emperor Hadrian reign, he then had enough of the Jews and changed the name of the land to Palestine cause the majority of the land was made up of Philistines, the term Palestine is the Latin for Philistine
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Yes, that's exactly how the world works dipshit. If you can't defend your land from those who wish to take, then you lose your land. Not too hard to understand.
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The Assyrians and the Babylonians did not buy Israel's house, they came in and took it by force. I understand once you sell a house you can't come back to it, but there was no house sold it was taken so to answer your question if my house is taken from me, of course I will be back to claim it, however, of course at one point it was Palestinian territory as well so they have a right to claim it as well. I ain't taking sides but I think both Israel and Palestine have a right to the land now it's a political game, very complicated issue
Assyria conquered the northern kingdom in 720 BC, Shalmanaser, Tiglath Piliser, Sargon, Sennacherib, Esarhaddon, and Ashurbanipal
Babylonia conquered the southern kingdom including Jerusalem, 550 BC Nebuchadnezzar. Belshazzar, Babylonian exile
When the Roman took over the land they changed the name Israel to Judea and Galalee, and the temple was destroyed 70 AD known as the first revolt the second revolt took place 150AD during Emperor Hadrian reign, he then had enough of the Jews and changed the name of the land to Palestine cause the majority of the land was made up of Philistines, the term Palestine is the Latin for Philistine
good post very informative.
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good post very informative.
I have studied a lot about the middle east and that region northeast of Cairo and South of Damascus, west of the Jordan has seen more war then any other land on the planet, like I said I am not taking sides, but I will agree with you that the Palestinian have been through a great deal in the last 3 millenia
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good post very informative.
Yep...the truth's a bitch.
But don't worry, you'll get over it someday.
I already did.
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Israel should have extended the 6 day war a bit. They could have swept aside the very scum, aka fascist i-ss-lam that terrorizes the world now.
Currently it's best for Israel, or better it's citizens to leave that shit hole. Israel is commanded by religious zealots that have zero in common with the average person living there. The younger generation in Israel is fed up with their state and I guess in the future they will migrate into western europe, mostly germany.
This is good because western europe needs some intelligent people with balls.
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Israel should have extended the 6 day war a bit. They could have swept aside the very scum, aka fascist i-ss-lam that terrorizes the world now.
Currently it's best for Israel, or better it's citizens to leave that shit hole. Israel is commanded by religious zealots that have zero in common with the average person living there. The younger generation in Israel is fed up with their state and I guess in the future they will migrate into western europe, mostly germany.
This is good because western europe needs some intelligent people with balls.
It will never ever happen, like I said so many times, the land is the most wanted land on the planet since the beginning of time. Obvious the days of conquest are over but every sourounding nation built there conquest around this territory
There is no gold, no oil, full of valleys, hills and mountainous terrain, nothing materialistically beneficial about this terrain, but the historical significents is to much to give up
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Israel should have extended the 6 day war a bit. They could have swept aside the very scum, aka fascist i-ss-lam that terrorizes the world now.
Currently it's best for Israel, or better it's citizens to leave that shit hole. Israel is commanded by religious zealots that have zero in common with the average person living there. The younger generation in Israel is fed up with their state and I guess in the future they will migrate into western europe, mostly germany.
This is good because western europe needs some intelligent people with balls.
Israel only had the possibility of fighting a war because of free war machine we give them, pathetic they are like babies stuck on free military and free money from USA, they would be nothing without USA, pathetic leeching scum, we need to stop funneling money to these thieves, murderers, leeches, rapists.
Do you remember were the Jews were in WW2? They didn't get their country by themselves and build all that war equipment themselves or train themselves, they are like children, the USA made them, if not they would be still going around Europe getting kicked out of countries for stealing, con artist schemes, all kinds of monetary crimes they love.