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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: anab0lic on November 24, 2011, 11:05:28 AM
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not this shit again..it's only the 999999999999999999999999 99999999999th time this shit is posted on here.
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not this shit again..it's only the 999999999999999999999999 99999999999th time this shit is posted on here.
meh just about everything related to bodybuilding in the last 7 years has been repeat posts.
I hate it, it's a disease that this site pushes, I'm a big guy maybe not a bodybuilder, but I'm totally fucked from this site. I don't know how many times I've bitched about my twiskishness, to only get black stares, from 115 pound dude. Seriously its pretty burnt how small the average guy is compared to what gets considered twink on this site.
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I'm 210 lbs lean at 6 foot and I still think I'm small. I remember thinking today in the gym (while looking at myself in the mirror) that I've gained a solid 40 lbs in 2 years (not all muscle, of course) but I still feel the same size.
when will it be mine time for mutation >:(
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Yeah, we know, we re all short, small or/and skinny kids / men on here with no father figures, raised by single mothers who struggle in life and think that looking like arnold s will make us happy until we understand life is about so much more than this. Some will eventually grow out of it as they age finding some guidance, and a lot of others will be stuck in this immature , autistic obsession of wanting to become ''bigger'' at all costs, to compensate for the fact they had no father figure, a weak confidence, low self esteem deeply embeded in them as a result, and that's assuming there arent other weaknesses like being short/being unintelligent, uneducated, or having a small cock/being fugly, at play simultaenously.
Some guys are obsessed by big muscles and ''strong father'' (roided actors, super heroes etc) figures because it gives them what they didnt have, what they dont have being raised by a single mother and few or no father figure at all during childhood and adolescence. They spend their whole life attempting to regain their virility that has been shut down forever by the lack of a caring father. They re often extremistic in everything they do, in the way they think, have psycho behavorial troubles, because basically they have a personnality that is too feminine. They try to hide it by overcompensating exagerely adopting looks and attitudes that they hope will hide the fact they re weak minded pansies.
Sons raised by decent fathers are balanced, have less difficulties adaptating to the real world and are more mature sooner, dont fall for most of life's traps as they re constantly and correctly adivsed by their fathers. Others just spend their whole life trying to get what they didnt have , hitting all the walls at full speed one after another. A lot dont see their 50s.
Yes, lifting weights can be good for health and sex appeal, but it doesnt change the fact that life is about so much more than just being muscular to impress people who most of the time dont give a fuck about muscles. Intelligence, money, power are what's important. Being loved by signifcant ones is what s important. Contributing, giving as much as you receive, is what's important. Your pathetic muscles are only 1 % of what life is about. And newsflashs; there s always someone bigger than you and there s a new sucker without a father figure born every second who will attempt to compensate by getting bigger than everyone else.
Yes, spending your life caring only about your muscles means there is something wrong with you. Yes it borders on homosexuality. Yes most men without a father figure are obsessive about muscles , theirs, and other men muscles because they want to become that perfect dad they never had, and want more than anything that love they never had, even if it means for some taking another old man s cock in their ass, one excess leading to another. Considering most sons without a father become manual workers and dont earn a lot of money, have no serious studies, education, they stagnate in the lower, nastier layers of the social pyramid and are more prone to do the stupidest, gayest shit to survive, they become filthy indivduals who only adapt by backstabing others every chance they get, that s what they learnt from the interactions between their own family members when they were young.
You can enjoy a healthy lifestyle, practise physical conditionning without being extremistic, obsessive about it and caring about others as much as you care about yourself. You can be balanced, and exist for others things that are more important at the same time than just being focused on your appearance. But it takes a sane, healhty, guided mind to do so, something very few have because they come from dysfunctonnal families with no or poor father figures.
Considering there s a growing number of sons raised by single mothers, the bodybuilding industry (homos, supplement and steroids dealers)have a nice future.
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Yeah, we know, we re all short, small or/and skinny kids / men on here with no father figures, raised by single mothers who struggle in life and think that looking like arnold s will make us happy until we understand life is about so much more than this. Some will eventually grow out of it as they age, and a lot of others will be stuck in this immature , autistic obsession of wanting to become ''bigger'' at all costs, to compensate for the fact they had no father figure, a weak confidence, low self esteem, and that's assuming there arent other weaknesses like being short/being unintelligent, uneducated, or having a small cock/being fugly, at play simultaenously.
Some guys are obsessed by big muscles and ''strong father'' (roided actors, super heroes etc) figures because it gives them what they didnt have, what they dont have being raised by a single mother and few or no father figure at all during childhood and adolescence. They spend their whole life attempting to regain their virility that has been shut down forever by the lack of a caring father. They re often extremistic in everything they do, in the way they think, have psycho behavorial troubles, because basically they have a personnality that is too feminine. They try to hide it by overcompensating exagerely adopting looks and attitudes that they hope will hide the fact they re weak minded pansies.
Sons raised by decent fathers are balanced, have less difficulties adaptating to the real world and are more mature sooner, dont fall for most of life's traps as they re constantly and correctly adivsed by their fathers. Others just spend their whole life trying to get what they didnt have .
Yes, lifting weights can be good for health and sex appeal, but it doesnt change the fact that life is about so much more than just being muscular to impress people who most of the time dont give a fuck about muscles. Intelligence, money, power are what's important.
Yes, spending your life caring only about your muscles means there is something wrong with you. Yes it borders on homosexuality. Yes most men without a father figure are obsessive about muscles , theirs, and other men muscles because they want to become that perfect dad they never had, and want more than anything that love they never had, even if it means for some taking another old man s cock in their ass, one excess leading to another. Considering most sons without a father become manual workers and dont earn a lot of money, have no serious studies, education, they stagnate in the lower, nastier layers of the social pyramid and are more prone to do the stupidest, gayest shit to survive, they become filthy indivduals who only adapt by backstabing others every chance they get, that s what they learnt from the interactions between their own family members when they were young.
You can enjoy a healthy lifestyle, practise physical conditionning without being extremistic, obsessive about it and caring about others as much as you care about yourself. You can be balanced, and exist for others things that are more important at the same time than just being focused on your appearance. But it takes a sane, healhty, guided mind to do so, something very few have because they come from dysfunctonnal families with no or poor father figures.
Considering there s a growing number of sons raised by single mothers, the bodybuilding industry (homos, supplement and steroids dealers)have a nice future.
While I do not mind this threads repetitive topic, your pseudo pysc diatribes are quite old.
For me I just I was watching an arnie video when I decided it'd be cool if I became big like arnold, thought it was easy as I was 19 at the time. I'm close enough to the goal that I shouldn't even care but this site time and time again reminds me how fucked we think.
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i dont think there is such a thing as bigorexia of body dysmorphic disorder, i think these things are normal, it's you trying to achieve something you believe will give you status, leverage, power, it will allow your organism to thrive so to speak, this is not abnormal. if a student never stops studying and always takes classes to get new degrees and this and that, does he have knowledge dysmorphic disorder lol... all this shit is normal
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i dont think there is such a thing as bigorexia of body dysmorphic disorder, i think these things are normal, it's you trying to achieve something you believe will give you status, leverage, power, it will allow your organism to thrive so to speak, this is not abnormal. if a student never stops studying and always takes classes to get new degrees and this and that, does he have knowledge dysmorphic disorder lol... all this shit is normal
But it won't give you shit I guess thats why I hate is so much, bigorexia, is when its fucking pointless, a fat chick can't be anorexic, and twink can't be bigorexic, they both have room for improvement, bigorexic, applies to those that are fighiting a limit, not self control.
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i dont think there is such a thing as bigorexia of body dysmorphic disorder, i think these things are normal, it's you trying to achieve something you believe will give you status, leverage, power, it will allow your organism to thrive so to speak, this is not abnormal. if a student never stops studying and always takes classes to get new degrees and this and that, does he have knowledge dysmorphic disorder lol... all this shit is normal
Or, both, the insane studying and the insane abuse of drugs and gym time are disorders. Its just more practical to give shit to vain drugadicts than chinese engineers.
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they are fighting for status, not to break a limit, most girls who are beautiful and think theyre ugly etc, it's because they do what hey think should make them beautiful, they look at how other beautiful people are treated, and they think well I did xyz now treat me like heidi klum... but people around them just don't acknowledge their beauty, they refuse to give the subject that status, that love, that leverage.
it's all about leverage to have power over people, beauty is leverage, a beautyful woman marries a millionaire and he does what she wants him to do because then she gives him the status of having a beautiful wife, the happiness that sex and affection brings.
I didnt watch this clip on bigorexia, but I assume its some bodybuilder saying to the camera IM JUST NOT BIG ENOUGH WAH WAH. who knows what really goes through his mind, some guy said i'll give u air time if u say this or that so he said this or that...
what really happened is that when he saw huge guys he worshipped them, he got the urge to hand them their weights, to kiss ass, well he got big and no one kisses his ass so he must get bigger, problem is his persoanlity, that's why people don't worship him, but his organism doesn't get that, his organism says that the path to status is lifting and hormones and size, so that's what he does over an over and cries when it doesn't work
having muscle doesn't bring status in and of itself, social power is more complicated
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Or, both, the insane studying and the insane abuse of drugs and gym time are disorders. Its just more practical to give shit to vain drugadicts than chinese engineers.
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the reason those things are called disorders by the medical establishment is related to the medical establishment making $$$
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Depends on your surroundings when growing up. If you're a competitive person there'll be some form of bigorexia involved. It's natural unless it consumes all your life. I bet cavemen also had it.
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i dont think there is such a thing as bigorexia of body dysmorphic disorder, i think these things are normal, it's you trying to achieve something you believe will give you status, leverage, power, it will allow your organism to thrive so to speak, this is not abnormal. if a student never stops studying and always takes classes to get new degrees and this and that, does he have knowledge dysmorphic disorder lol... all this shit is normal
it is normal in the sense it is an animal behavior, an attempt to adapt to survive developing a strategy of survival . The purpose of the brain; calculating how to conceive strategies of survival to adapt and dominate, a process which when it succeeds produces ''hapiness''. What is adapted, survives, and feels happy, what isnt adapted has lower odds of survival, and feel frustrated; smells like death in the original jungle/savanna.
Of course it is ''normal''. A normal animalistic behavior in the human specie. It is abnormal when it becomes exagerely obsessive, when it prevents an individual from doing others things like getting an education, a good job, to create a family and to raise kids, which are others ''things'' that are important in life to feel fulfilled.
You cant spend your whole life on hormones , and attempting to dominate every one physically anyways. At some point your extremistic , obsessive bullshit strategy of survival doesnt work anymore, and what is left then?
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the reason those things are called disorders by the medical establishment is related to the medical establishment making $$$
no you pathetic dumbfuck. Thats because it doesnt allow normal functionning in society which is defined by living a healthy lifestyle without the constant use of drugs to feel alive, and because it doesnt allow most of the time to be a decent father figure or husband either which means producing more dysfunctionnal families. Addictions are extremes that are unhealthy , destructive, for both the individual and his loved ones, when he s able to have loved ones which is rare with most autistic ''bodybuilders''.
as soon as drugs are involved, it s extremistic, unhealthy. as soon as you only focus on your shity bbing ''carreer'' , whore yourself to sugar daddies or momies, do gay 4 pay cause you cant even work at the local mac donald, it's viewed by people with a better education and who come from stable families as Disorders.
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I feel I'm small. I look in the mirror when I'm working out "My God I don't look big." Then I see some other gymrat next to me I see the size difference in him and me. I'm at 230 lbs.
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Some days I absolutely disappear from the side, I don't even look like I go to the gym. Then on other days I look at myself from the side and I'm one thick guy.
when will it be mine time for thickness all year round
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I feel I'm small. I look in the mirror when I'm working out "My God I don't look big." Then I see some other gymrat next to me I see the size difference in him and me. I'm at 230 lbs.
you can lift as much as you want, inject as much as you want, it will never ever cure your insecurity which originates in past traumas that happened during childhood, the main and most common one being not having been loved, taken care enough by a decent father figure.
The short good feeling after lifting weights is temporary and linked to the production of neurotransmitters of hapiness in the brain, dopamine, serotonin, it also creates addiction so you repeat the routine. But it doesnt last long. Later you come back to your average mood, your average level of well beingness, which is determined by how you ve been loved-or not loved- during your childhood.
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the dominating thing, it's an illusion, just like the alpha male thing, it doesn't really happen
the people who "suffer" from this "condition," their organism understands that the path they are taking is the path they should take to have power, to own real estate in other people's minds, then to have money because money is the realization of power
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you can lift as much as you want, inject as much as you want, it will never ever cure your insecurity which originates in past traumas that happened during childhood, the main and most common one being not having been loved, taken care enough by a decent father figure.
Uberman you're right even on the part about issues w/the father. If it wasn't for low self-esteem I wouldn't be obsessed about working out and everything. It has its advantages.
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no you pathetic dumbfuck. Thats because it doesnt allow normal functionning in society which is defined by living a healthy lifestyle without the constant use of drugs to feel alive, and because it doesnt allow most of the time to be a decent father figure or husband either which means producing more dysfunctionnal families. Addictions are extremes that are unhealthy , destructive, for both the individual and his loved ones, when he s able to have loved ones which is rare with most autistic ''bodybuilders''.
as soon as drugs are involved, it s extremistic, unhealthy. as soon as you only focus on your shity bbing ''carreer'' , whore yourself to sugar daddies or momies, do gay 4 pay cause you cant even work at the local mac donald, it's viewed by people with a better education and who come from stable families as Disorders.
listen, do you think the medical establishment makes prozac and has doctors prescribe it out of the good of their hearts? u cant sell drugs to a corpse, that's why suicide is "unhealthy," thats why they try to stop it. how do they stop "disorders" that you call unhealthy, D-R-U-G-S. Ok? you say anything that has to do drugs is unhealthy, tell that to all the house wives on pills or in therapy because someone invented a disorder so that doctos could prescribe them drugs
dont be a dumb dumb
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you can dominate in life with studies, a good job that requires the use of all your best strenghts, which allows you to contribute fully to the specie that spawned you. By being successful socio professionnaly and by giving birth and raising happy individuals who will also contribute to mankind, to the specie.
This is the benevolant, healhty way of contributing to mankind; you dominate by giving as much as you receive using your full potential.
And then, there s everything else. The others main strategies of survival.
For example, the uneducated loser with charisma linked to his muscles, who only exists because of his muscles, who only impress, dominate others with them. But to keep being respected -feared- and to keep impressing, the muscles must stay, and you want more, so at some point considering they re everything you have, you go the steroid route.
No chance he gets an education, a good job, he didnt have a father to give him guidance, he s an atheist, he s an asshole, insecure about his own sexuality,so he survives in the gutters, the low part of the pyramid, can barely work a normal job and gets pissed by everything, always thinking about what he could have done if only his father actually invested in him, gave him soemthing instad of abandonning him.
There you have it, the roots of good and evil, where it all starts for a male in the human specie.
Who raises secure kids, sons and daughters, who contribute to society, and dont fall for all the extremes, traps? The hard working faithful man.
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the reason those things are called disorders by the medical establishment is related to the medical establishment making $$$
I think its perfectly reasonable to say that taking something to such extreme extremes is unhealthy, but I do agree that you can make an argument for "what is healthy and what not" and circle around that.
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u dont really understand, it's not about dominating, open your ears and put down ur little alpha male handbook.
u dont go to school and study in order to dominate at studying, you go in order to have something to LEVERAGE, that being knowledge or skills or whatever
the key to power is leverage, you can leverage ur beauty if you have that, leverage ur big dick if u have that too
with power you get money, money is just your realization of power
this dominating thing... no no, there was and never will be this dominathing thing. if you are a guy who thinks hes dominant, what happens is people like women will realize, ok for him to do what I tell him to do I have to pretend that he dominates me, I have to act submissive, but those people never truly submit they only act like they do, once you fuck up they treat you like a child because you are a child who read somewhere that he should act like he's dominant, bit you aren't actually dominant, so they flip the table on yo whenever they feel like it
the key is to have leverage
and you mentioned happiness, happiness is very simple, it's simply the assertion of having social power, that's what a smile is, same thing as an upward turned tail on a dog
one thing that will help you to understand this is that social status is not dicated by a linear, two dimentional hierarchy, it's more complicated where a a>b>c>a situation can arise because there are different types of leverage
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I think its perfectly reasonable to say that taking something to such extreme extremes is unhealthy, but I do agree that you can make an argument for "what is healthy and what not" and circle around that.
it doesn't matter that it's unhealthy, who said everyone must be healthy, things like suicide are normal too, they happen in animals of different species, to call something normal or unhealthy... what does this do exactly, how does it change the nature of the thing ur talking about
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it doesn't matter that it's unhealthy, who said everyone must be healthy, things like suicide are normal too, they happen in animals of different species, to call something normal or unhealthy... what does this do exactly, how does it change the nature of the thing ur talking about
Doing anything to such extreme can constitute being a disorder, thats all Im saying, you talk about health, and Im not trying to say what is or what is not, its just that all conducts can be extreme or obssesive, gaming, lifting, fucking, etc.
Oh, and I do think a standard of health is needed. But thats not to discuss here.
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listen, do you think the medical establishment makes prozac and has doctors prescribe it out of the good of their hearts? u cant sell drugs to a corpse, that's why suicide is "unhealthy," thats why they try to stop it. how do they stop "disorders" that you call unhealthy, D-R-U-G-S. Ok? you say anything that has to do drugs is unhealthy, tell that to all the house wives on pills or in therapy because someone invented a disorder so that doctos could prescribe them drugs
dont be a dumb dumb
you godamn motherfucking moron , how is the medical establishment responsible for fathers abandonning their kids , sons and daughters, who will barely survive depressed all life long ? How is the medical establishment responsible for that in the first place? You re confusing the order of things. You re ignorant. You must be young! Of course they re striving on other people who come from shity families psycho behavorial troubles, developing medications that dont even work or at best keep people asleep so they dont figure they ve been fucked in the ass by their own parents, genitors, who didnt have the decency to care enough about them after giving birth to them.
Moral, spiritual decline is what leads to suffering in all human beings. If psychologists, psychanalysts exist nowadays, if most people try to find a meaning to their life in pseudo philosophies from Orient, if they need steroids, anti depressants, sleeping aids, thats because love is disapearing , because families are dysfunctional, and all of this is happening because the Words of God have been abandonned.
All these bullshit pseudo medicaqtions full of side effects were developed as religion was gradually abandonned , because people fell for all the traps of modernism, and lost faith.
And all these jobs, all these ''docs'' are assholes who need mentally ill people to survive, to have a job, they strive on other people problems, they strive on the disapearing of love and they give bullshit solutions to their ''customers''. And they re the biggest atheists, the most anti christian assholes on earth, you connect the dots.This is the irony of the whole thing.
Again, you fail to understand the order of things. You put the consequences before the causes, which is ilogical, and ignorant.
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to me things like "normal" or "unhealthy" stem from the power that the medical establishment has, and it's deceptive, I don't like it that people are constantly looking for disorders and then getting medicated to remove them from reality. if you are killing yourself by withholding food, like an anorexic, it needs to be understood that things in your environment are causing your DNA to kill itself... something is telling your DNA that your DNA shouldn't be passed on, and those things are real, to then take anti depressants to numb the pain you feel, this is a type of insanity to me as it removes you from those aspects that make u self destructive yet those aspects are aspects of REALITY, they are real
to the medical establishment, your self destructive behavior is leverage for them, they;ve convinced society that you must MUST be sold drugs now, now they have an excuse, if they approached you before you had "problems" thent hey would be drug dealers, but you requiring perscription creates the illusion of legitimacy which gives them the power to sell you highly addictive expensive pills that do not help most often
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Doing anything to such extreme can constitute being a disorder, thats all Im saying, you talk about health, and Im not trying to say what is or what is not, its just that all conducts can be extreme or obssesive, gaming, lifting, fucking, etc.
exactly. And what allow a kid or girl not to be extreme about everything, who shall i say?
A father figure following God's words.
Remove him, and kids raised by single moms fall for all the traps and extremes, they dont reproduce once adults and when they do they reproduce what happened to em subconsciously until the end of the lineage/bloodline. This, is, in one sentence, the main reason of the decline of occident.
Oh and che, you hypocritical asshole, you can yawn as much as you want, you keep reading my rents over and over for some reasons. Funny isnt it.
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i hope you know that I only ever read the first sentence of every post you make then skim the rest of it, and that calling me absurd names gets you no where, you don't call anyone those names in real life do you, but I speak just like this when Im explaining these things to my friends, that's because the internet is not a place I go to make up a fictitious personality and take out my frustrations of being impotent in real life. but that's what it is for you, isn't it
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i hope you know that I only ever read the first sentence of every post you make then skim the rest of it, and that calling me absurd names gets you no where, you don't call anyone those names in real life do you, but I speak just like this when Im explaining these things to my friends, that's because the internet is not a place I go to make up a fictitious personality and take out my frustrations of being impotent in real life. but that's what it is for you, isn't it
Stop wasting your time, he's a fruit loop
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i hope you know that I only ever read the first sentence of every post you make then skim the rest of it, and that calling me absurd names gets you no where, you don't call anyone those names in real life do you, but I speak just like this when Im explaining these things to my friends, that's because the internet is not a place I go to make up a fictitious personality and take out my frustrations of being impotent in real life. but that's what it is for you, isn't it
Uberman just parrots everything he reads on this quack website he posted a link to some time ago.
Apparently Christianity is the answer to all of mans ills, yet it has only existed for a spec of time when you consider the duration of the human race. Not to mention other nationalities that use other religions.
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was I arguing with a gimmick? lol
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was I arguing with a gimmick? lol
Looks like you're having a brief flash of lucidity in this thread.
One hopes it would somehow continue, but then again...
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uberman is a kind of person im very well acquainted with, a power hungry coward, someone who yearns to have power, to tell people what to do and have them do it, but someone who was not equipped with th emeans to attain the social power necessary, he wants for someone to come along and simply hand him power. he wants someone to give him power, he doesn;t want to earn it, hence his obsession with religion, religion is empowering to him. the actual problem he has comes down to not understanding others, he cant get them to do what he wants because he cannot relate to them because in his own mind he is a god, and if he relates to others it means he sees himself as they see him, which is most likely an impotent delusional and unaffectionate man
most likely in real life he is overly polite, he kisses every ass that walks by, his dinner conversation with his family, if he has one, consists of attempts at dictation. he recites articles he reads, he tells the same stories over and over, he relies on things like religion and the medical establishment to imbue his words with authority, if u question what he says he will always remind u someone with authority said it, not him
if he has children, it's one or two and he had them late in life because sex is a difficult proposition for him since it requires an emotional honesty and a connection with your partner, which for him of course is difficult since there is a dichotomy between his inner world of that of authority and his outer image of that of impotence
finally, his biggest trait is that of abuse, anybody who doesn't do what he says or doesn't believe his lies is worthless to him, and what he hates most is arrogance in others, if someone who he has authority over acts arrogantly he will be verbally abusive and very cold to them, he will abuse the little arrogant uberman that is inside of the other person because he is ashamed of his own arrogance, he hides it desperately, which is why he is so polite and kisses so much ass and works hard to have an angelic image to those who would actually buy it, which means those who are not close to him
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who cares if I'm projecting, its not a criticism or an insult, its just true. the word coward has a negative connotation, maybe I can get away with not using the word coward, maybe it is not cowardice at all but a lack of mental discipline that allows people to think themselves superior to such an extent that is doesn't allow them to relate to people
and power hunger isn't a bad thing, i'm power hungry to an extent, but not so power hungry that I would allow myself to compromise my integrity
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to me things like "normal" or "unhealthy" stem from the power that the medical establishment has, and it's deceptive, I don't like it that people are constantly looking for disorders and then getting medicated to remove them from reality. if you are killing yourself by withholding food, like an anorexic, it needs to be understood that things in your environment are causing your DNA to kill itself... something is telling your DNA that your DNA shouldn't be passed on, and those things are real, to then take anti depressants to numb the pain you feel, this is a type of insanity to me as it removes you from those aspects that make u self destructive yet those aspects are aspects of REALITY, they are real
to the medical establishment, your self destructive behavior is leverage for them, they;ve convinced society that you must MUST be sold drugs now, now they have an excuse, if they approached you before you had "problems" thent hey would be drug dealers, but you requiring perscription creates the illusion of legitimacy which gives them the power to sell you highly addictive expensive pills that do not help most often
Lols the medical establisment ::)
Sounds like you need to see a shrink if that's how you see things, pysc doesn't mean you need to put everyone on pills, most shrinks I know avoid that shit like the plague, much of our problems stem from a society that is stressful and repetitive due to our economic system. That is why everyone these days has an obsession or an addictive personality because were pushed into this stereotyped world where everything we do must be done to the extreme otherwise the economics ignores it, whether it be sports, education, personal appearance, the economic system we have favours extremes for the most part, although theory pretends we should prefer balance.
Uberman says the need for survival, the truth is the drive for survival is the most distructive force. It leads to selfishness, desperation which leads to short sighted decisions(credit), narrow mindedness, deterministic thinking where only negative properties matter, and in general leads people into a very minimalistic shell of a life. All things uberman has in ample supply.
The laws of economics push us in this direction by corruption of a mild truth, our drive for survival. It's generally believed that our will for survival drives us for the best results, this is true if you put us in a stereotyped environment with set measurements like say the olympia. But in the big picture this is a total disaster for everyone except the narrow extreme.
When your fighting for your survival, your thought patterns are limited to the oldest part of the reptilian brain where we sense fear and reaction. This works for very simplistic goals, like a jumping a valley or making 7 percent interest but it isn't useful for higher order thinking which our minds thrive on, as well as our real economic growth.
People are at there best when their driven for prosperity not survival, we love to mix the to up horribly but it usually ends in disaster.
People function best when relaxed and engaged, whether or not its pro sports, academia, masturbation whatever it's where our higher order function thrives. We don't just see a black and white need for survival but ways of seeing balance, color, creativity, stimulation etc.
As long as we live in a environment that thrives on the reptilian brain which our economics push us towards we'll never break this cycle. If you want people to have balanced healthy views you need to give them balanced objectives and start working for cooperation not domination.
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Sorry brutha if its too complex for ya I make it shart.
U no wen u wit sum bitch ass nig gah, dats tryin ta bum rush ya, and you ain't on it like U can't spin a spliff, you mind stuck fo survival dawg, but wen u's all chillax rite wit sum bitch and u fuck her hard man dats prosperity.
Its all dat wite mans fault dog 4 real.
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lol, regret that I read
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lol, regret that I read
Just deal dude you might be smart, but I am smarter. P.S. the fact that I got a pic in my sig totally beats your higher post count.
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another thread
where uberman
rages about his
mother and father
and justifies his
insecurities as
survival
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not this shit again..it's only the 999999999999999999999999 99999999999th time this shit is posted on here.
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Uberman
With the greatest respect, I almost agree with most of what you said.
;D
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not this shit again..it's only the 999999999999999999999999 99999999999th time this shit is posted on here.
Post some pics of Arnold
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Survival , father figure ,survival, father figure, survival................ .................
(http://tomandemma.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/yawn.png)
X 650,000
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:'(
http://efukt.com/20700_Girl_Got_HIV_After_Doing_Anal.html (http://efukt.com/20700_Girl_Got_HIV_After_Doing_Anal.html)
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Uberman
With the greatest respect, I almost agree with most of what you said.
;D
Lol "I have a few minor comments" made me laugh. Thats so true for someone who ever worked with text
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Uberman
With the greatest respect, I almost agree with most of what you said.
;D
That is insanely funny and very true :)
May I ask where you got it from?
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Yeah, we know, we re all short, small or/and skinny kids / men on here with no father figures, raised by single mothers who struggle in life and think that looking like arnold s will make us happy until we understand life is about so much more than this. Some will eventually grow out of it as they age finding some guidance, and a lot of others will be stuck in this immature , autistic obsession of wanting to become ''bigger'' at all costs, to compensate for the fact they had no father figure, a weak confidence, low self esteem deeply embeded in them as a result, and that's assuming there arent other weaknesses like being short/being unintelligent, uneducated, or having a small cock/being fugly, at play simultaenously.
Some guys are obsessed by big muscles and ''strong father'' (roided actors, super heroes etc) figures because it gives them what they didnt have, what they dont have being raised by a single mother and few or no father figure at all during childhood and adolescence. They spend their whole life attempting to regain their virility that has been shut down forever by the lack of a caring father. They re often extremistic in everything they do, in the way they think, have psycho behavorial troubles, because basically they have a personnality that is too feminine. They try to hide it by overcompensating exagerely adopting looks and attitudes that they hope will hide the fact they re weak minded pansies.
Sons raised by decent fathers are balanced, have less difficulties adaptating to the real world and are more mature sooner, dont fall for most of life's traps as they re constantly and correctly adivsed by their fathers. Others just spend their whole life trying to get what they didnt have , hitting all the walls at full speed one after another. A lot dont see their 50s.
Yes, lifting weights can be good for health and sex appeal, but it doesnt change the fact that life is about so much more than just being muscular to impress people who most of the time dont give a fuck about muscles. Intelligence, money, power are what's important. Being loved by signifcant ones is what s important. Contributing, giving as much as you receive, is what's important. Your pathetic muscles are only 1 % of what life is about. And newsflashs; there s always someone bigger than you and there s a new sucker without a father figure born every second who will attempt to compensate by getting bigger than everyone else.
Yes, spending your life caring only about your muscles means there is something wrong with you. Yes it borders on homosexuality. Yes most men without a father figure are obsessive about muscles , theirs, and other men muscles because they want to become that perfect dad they never had, and want more than anything that love they never had, even if it means for some taking another old man s cock in their ass, one excess leading to another. Considering most sons without a father become manual workers and dont earn a lot of money, have no serious studies, education, they stagnate in the lower, nastier layers of the social pyramid and are more prone to do the stupidest, gayest shit to survive, they become filthy indivduals who only adapt by backstabing others every chance they get, that s what they learnt from the interactions between their own family members when they were young.
You can enjoy a healthy lifestyle, practise physical conditionning without being extremistic, obsessive about it and caring about others as much as you care about yourself. You can be balanced, and exist for others things that are more important at the same time than just being focused on your appearance. But it takes a sane, healhty, guided mind to do so, something very few have because they come from dysfunctonnal families with no or poor father figures.
Considering there s a growing number of sons raised by single mothers, the bodybuilding industry (homos, supplement and steroids dealers)have a nice future.
it sad that a guy of such intelligence use it for that
i see self loathing
what wrong with autistic obsession ?
it our life , olympic athletle run for record n rewards also not by insecurities , it call personal emancipation by challenge, th pre contest dieting protocol so extreme , you grow as a person , as a being , th asocial introspection it bring show lots of clarity about who you are ,, it' a inner mid war , who evolve on each contest war
most bodybuilder are in competition with themselves not getting bigger then kay greene
once u had reach th hulk freak perception of many , ppls like me , with not b afraid to show to others , weaker side, fragile soul , i cry watch notebook , be able to pull her hair call her slut n th day after romance her by poetry , prose , beauty , fiery burden desire in word n charisma , you won her heart n submit her in bed , be a men of knowledge not a gym rat
it's th ubersexual years , that super american macho crap is fading out
education lol worthless shit , i had never went in school i left at 16 years old , i make 200k , work 10 hours a month , you dont need follow submissive university ethic to succeed like you presume
be strong is be outspoken about our insecurities and trust me that work with girls , i break that taboo that you mention strongly every day
i see homophobia , wtf , you genuine men falldown on most major prejudice
u like piss , shit , lick bathroom sink , edema , fisting , it call freedom , hetero , trans , bi gender , female with clitoris bigger then you cock , freaks are anti what you aim for , standardization
i function well in my dysfunctionality , you sound chauvinistic
th new bodybuilding generation comin , like me , who know aldomovar , who follow foreign movie festival , like modern dance , know frank o gerhy , modern architecture, deridda deconstructivism contemporary philosophy
passion of muscle indeed , to see a better form of yourself , to create it by mind n gym session
it' call evolution, uniqueness who sweat upon , in tears n cradle of filth n indeed 3cc enanthate injection
i love that shit, it my life , it rebel at heart , forever childish perhaps ,
puke in agony on deadlift to shed how proud of myself i am
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it sad that a guy of such intelligence use it for that
i see self loathing
what wrong with autistic obsession ?
it our life , olympic athletle run for record n rewards also not by insecurities , it call personal emancipation by challenge, th pre contest dieting protocol so extreme , you grow as a person , as a being , th asocial introspection it bring show lots of clarity about who you are ,, it' a inner mid war , who evolve on each contest war
most bodybuilder are in competition with themselves not getting bigger then kay greene
once u had reach th hulk freak perception of many , ppls like me , with not b afraid to show to others , weaker side, fragile soul , i cry watch notebook , be able to pull her hair call her slut n th day after romance her by poetry , prose , beauty , fiery burden desire in word n charisma , you won her heart n submit her in bed , be a men of knowledge not a gym rat
it's th ubersexual years , that super american macho crap is fading out
education lol worthless shit , i had never went in school i left at 16 years old , i make 200k , work 10 hours a month , you dont need follow submissive university ethic to succeed like you presume
be strong is be outspoken about our insecurities and trust me that work with girls , i break that taboo that you mention strongly every day
i see homophobia , wtf , you genuine men falldown on most major prejudice
u like piss , shit , lick bathroom sink , edema , fisting , it call freedom , hetero , trans , bi gender , female with clitoris bigger then you cock , freaks are anti what you aim for , standardization
i function well in my dysfunctionality , you sound chauvinistic
th new bodybuilding generation comin , like me , who know aldomovar , who follow foreign movie festival , like modern dance , know frank o gerhy , modern architecture, deridda deconstructivism contemporary philosophy
passion of muscle indeed , to see a better form of yourself , to create it by mind n gym session
it' call evolution, uniqueness who sweat upon , in tears n cradle of filth n indeed 3cc enanthate injection
i love that shit, it my life , it rebel at heart , forever childish perhaps ,
puke in agony on deadlift to shed how proud of myself i am
Unbelievable how poetic you are, very nice, and a pleasant surprise. Please write more stuff like this.
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it sad that a guy of such intelligence use it for that
i see self loathing
what wrong with autistic obsession ?
it our life , olympic athletle run for record n rewards also not by insecurities , it call personal emancipation by challenge, th pre contest dieting protocol so extreme , you grow as a person , as a being , th asocial introspection it bring show lots of clarity about who you are ,, it' a inner mid war , who evolve on each contest war
most bodybuilder are in competition with themselves not getting bigger then kay greene
once u had reach th hulk freak perception of many , ppls like me , with not b afraid to show to others , weaker side, fragile soul , i cry watch notebook , be able to pull her hair call her slut n th day after romance her by poetry , prose , beauty , fiery burden desire in word n charisma , you won her heart n submit her in bed , be a men of knowledge not a gym rat
it's th ubersexual years , that super american macho crap is fading out
education lol worthless shit , i had never went in school i left at 16 years old , i make 200k , work 10 hours a month , you dont need follow submissive university ethic to succeed like you presume
be strong is be outspoken about our insecurities and trust me that work with girls , i break that taboo that you mention strongly every day
i see homophobia , wtf , you genuine men falldown on most major prejudice
u like piss , shit , lick bathroom sink , edema , fisting , it call freedom , hetero , trans , bi gender , female with clitoris bigger then you cock , freaks are anti what you aim for , standardization
i function well in my dysfunctionality , you sound chauvinistic
th new bodybuilding generation comin , like me , who know aldomovar , who follow foreign movie festival , like modern dance , know frank o gerhy , modern architecture, deridda deconstructivism contemporary philosophy
passion of muscle indeed , to see a better form of yourself , to create it by mind n gym session
it' call evolution, uniqueness who sweat upon , in tears n cradle of filth n indeed 3cc enanthate injection
i love that shit, it my life , it rebel at heart , forever childish perhaps ,
puke in agony on deadlift to shed how proud of myself i am
Well put.
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LOL
What kind of worthless disjointed drivel is this?
All I see is a freak trying to justify his life choices by trashing society as he never really fit in it in the first place.
You are a freak by nature, not by choice. Remember that. Your life in the underground came to be because you were rejected by the mainstream- which you now loath and ridicule constantly in your posts.
You trash university education the value of which, you personally, can never appreciate because it's something you never had and benefited from. You would have liked to, but given the nature of your personality, any long term endeavours which require steady, consistent work seem impossible.
Stay well under the ground and stop posting, you fucking hunchback of Notre Dame. Only a moron would take pride in making money from drug dealing and whatever other nefarious activities you are involved in.
trashing society of course when you date a girl who run to work every working come back from work exhausted n go bed for a slave salary income ,, you realize how living by th ethical citizen law fucking suck'
fuck mainstream , mainstream is attract to emptiness , kardashian n paris hilton
wise street men walk on th grey fence , you sale drugs indeed but right before th fda called it illegal
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"More And More Men Are Suffering From Muscle Dysmorphia"....lol
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/08/16/bigorexia-could-come-with-serious-side-effects/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/08/16/bigorexia-could-come-with-serious-side-effects/)
The feminization of men continues......in before Sev says something homoerotic.
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For better or worst, how a man looks is playing a bigger role in careers in the western world then ever before.
Therefore, i dont see this "illness" stoping anytime soon.
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For better or worst, how a man looks is playing a bigger role in careers in the western world then ever before.
Therefore, i dont see this "illness" stoping anytime soon.
at my company all the top dogs look like shit
old bald lacking sleep and calories
i dont agree with your post
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at my company all the top dogs look like shit
old bald lacking sleep and calories
i dont agree with your post
Old guys are at the top right? relics of a bygone era.
You don't have to agree, there are many factors in the equation, but it is the truth.
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Old guys are at the top right? relics of a bygone era.
You don't have to agree, there are many factors in the equation, but it is the truth.
40-46 yrs old more exactly
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40-46 yrs old more exactly
Like i said. Old.
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at my company all the top dogs look like shit
old bald lacking sleep and calories
i dont agree with your post
Me too bro, all my managers look like fat craps.
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Old guys are at the top right? relics of a bygone era.
You don't have to agree, there are many factors in the equation, but it is the truth.
Bro, what are the other factors? Do you work at McDonalds?
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bouncers and bodybuilders need to be big.
the rest of the world's professions.. not really.
a muscle head would more likely be discriminated in a office setting than get ahead.
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bouncers and bodybuilders need to be big.
the rest of the world's professions.. not really.
a muscle head would more likely be discriminated in a office setting than get ahead.
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bouncers and bodybuilders need to be big.
the rest of the world's professions.. not really.
a muscle head would more likely be discriminated in a office setting than get ahead.
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This is 100 percent true, at least in the private sector. The perception among management is that any time u spend in the gym, preparing your meals, etc., would be better spent furthering your employer's interests. I have been in compensation meetings where managers have said as much. I didn't stick up for my fellow gym rats because that's not the way corporate America works. I just laughed and agreed.
Plus, the people who get ahead in the private sector pretty much put their work ahead of everything, including their health. They don't need to see u strutting around the office looking good while they look and feel like shit.
You're better off in a civil service position if u want to pursue bodybuilding.
extremely accurate
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But...
...there are some variables.
Health... and being big... kind of don't go together in my "real" world.
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Or self employment...... But the sacrifices you'll have to make are even more extreme than in corporate America
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somehow it seems pointless to work so much to the point you look and feel like shit
but you need a lot of money to be safe
so
yeha
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Alpha males are more likely to engage in risky behaviors and die young.
In a wealthy society where living longer and healthier is becoming a bigger priority, beta males and their lifestyle is slowly becoming the norm.
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Bro, what are the other factors? Do you work at McDonalds?
No gimmick, i work in IT.
Other factors are the trational male career factors. Networking, education, exp, etc.
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Alpha males are more likely to engage in risky behaviors and die young.
In a wealthy society where living longer and healthier is becoming a bigger priority, beta males and their lifestyle is slowly becoming the norm.
until there s a need for wars, say like after a global economic collapse for example. Oh wait... Also, define "alpha". There are many different ways for a man to dominate and insure his survival.
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rather suffer from Bigorexia than suffer from..............NSS!
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Huge story - something that Getbig covered over two years ago....
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/08/16/bigorexia-could-come-with-serious-side-effects/
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — It has often been perceived that women are constantly fixated on their diets. Now, a growing number of men have become obsessed with “bulking up.”
The new trend has been called “bigorexia” and it could come with some serious health consequences.
Early in his career, personal trainer Alfonso Moretti was obsessed with building his own muscles.
“It takes over your life. Every decision you make becomes the workout and how your body looks. I used to track and weigh every single ounce of food that went in my body. I used to wake up at 3 o’clock in the morning to drink protein shakes. I never missed a workout, ever, ever, ever,” he told CBS 2′s Maurice Dubois.
As many as 45-percent of men have fallen victim to bigorexia or muscle dysmorphia, according to Dr. Michele Kerulis the director of sports & health psychology at the Adler School of Professional Psychology.
“I can remember as young as 13 or 14, looking at some of these muscle magazines, and I was conditioned to think that’s what a man looked like. Big shoulders, big legs, just big muscles with veins everywhere,” Moretti said.
The emotional impact can be devastating.
“We see psychological abnormalities, including irritability, angry outbursts, which sometimes people would call ‘roid rage.’ We see depression sometimes, mania,” Dr. Kerulis said.
The excessive exercising could put men at a higher risk for physical injury, too.
“I had a ruptured disc in my neck and it basically paralyzed me on the right side of my body,” Moretti explained.
The injuries caused by bigorexia can range from muscle strains and stress factors to organ failure.
“Individuals who have bigorexia, a lot of them tend to use supplements and if you overdose on these supplements without having a balanced diet you can develop kidney and liver failure and as that happens you may need a liver or kidney transplant or you could eventually die,” explained Dr. Selene Parekh an associate professor at Duke University.
Moretti underwent surgery for his injury and said that it was a wake-up call. Now, he helps other men avoid bigorexia by training them with realistic workouts and goals for his body.
“I look back now and I see those pictures and I’m like ‘wow,’ like I would never want to look like that guy,” he said.
The disorder is treatable with behavior therapy and supervised exercise treatments, according to experts.
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Yeah, we know, we re all short, small or/and skinny kids / men on here with no father figures, raised by single mothers who struggle in life and think that looking like arnold s will make us happy until we understand life is about so much more than this. Some will eventually grow out of it as they age finding some guidance, and a lot of others will be stuck in this immature , autistic obsession of wanting to become ''bigger'' at all costs, to compensate for the fact they had no father figure, a weak confidence, low self esteem deeply embeded in them as a result, and that's assuming there arent other weaknesses like being short/being unintelligent, uneducated, or having a small cock/being fugly, at play simultaenously.
Some guys are obsessed by big muscles and ''strong father'' (roided actors, super heroes etc) figures because it gives them what they didnt have, what they dont have being raised by a single mother and few or no father figure at all during childhood and adolescence. They spend their whole life attempting to regain their virility that has been shut down forever by the lack of a caring father. They re often extremistic in everything they do, in the way they think, have psycho behavorial troubles, because basically they have a personnality that is too feminine. They try to hide it by overcompensating exagerely adopting looks and attitudes that they hope will hide the fact they re weak minded pansies.
Sons raised by decent fathers are balanced, have less difficulties adaptating to the real world and are more mature sooner, dont fall for most of life's traps as they re constantly and correctly adivsed by their fathers. Others just spend their whole life trying to get what they didnt have , hitting all the walls at full speed one after another. A lot dont see their 50s.
Yes, lifting weights can be good for health and sex appeal, but it doesnt change the fact that life is about so much more than just being muscular to impress people who most of the time dont give a fuck about muscles. Intelligence, money, power are what's important. Being loved by signifcant ones is what s important. Contributing, giving as much as you receive, is what's important. Your pathetic muscles are only 1 % of what life is about. And newsflashs; there s always someone bigger than you and there s a new sucker without a father figure born every second who will attempt to compensate by getting bigger than everyone else.
Yes, spending your life caring only about your muscles means there is something wrong with you. Yes it borders on homosexuality. Yes most men without a father figure are obsessive about muscles , theirs, and other men muscles because they want to become that perfect dad they never had, and want more than anything that love they never had, even if it means for some taking another old man s cock in their ass, one excess leading to another. Considering most sons without a father become manual workers and dont earn a lot of money, have no serious studies, education, they stagnate in the lower, nastier layers of the social pyramid and are more prone to do the stupidest, gayest shit to survive, they become filthy indivduals who only adapt by backstabing others every chance they get, that s what they learnt from the interactions between their own family members when they were young.
You can enjoy a healthy lifestyle, practise physical conditionning without being extremistic, obsessive about it and caring about others as much as you care about yourself. You can be balanced, and exist for others things that are more important at the same time than just being focused on your appearance. But it takes a sane, healhty, guided mind to do so, something very few have because they come from dysfunctonnal families with no or poor father figures.
Considering there s a growing number of sons raised by single mothers, the bodybuilding industry (homos, supplement and steroids dealers)have a nice future.
This...
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take note, permabulker fatsos ;D
the funiest are the ones who totaly overdose on "supplements" and then severly overeat.
ha, as if their workoutings were so hefty
if you eat like a sumo, you will eventualy end up looking like a sumo.
good thing this gets covereage, it is indeed and evry seriously a mental issue.
haha indeed, they get filled with this crap in muscle magazines and then eat like pigs and end up looking like ones themselves, but hey the only important thing is that their clothes get smaller and they think they're getting huge muscle wise, oh brother
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Yeah, we know, we re all short, small or/and skinny kids / men on here with no father figures, raised by single mothers who struggle in life and think that looking like arnold s will make us happy until we understand life is about so much more than this. Some will eventually grow out of it as they age finding some guidance, and a lot of others will be stuck in this immature , autistic obsession of wanting to become ''bigger'' at all costs, to compensate for the fact they had no father figure, a weak confidence, low self esteem deeply embeded in them as a result, and that's assuming there arent other weaknesses like being short/being unintelligent, uneducated, or having a small cock/being fugly, at play simultaenously.
Some guys are obsessed by big muscles and ''strong father'' (roided actors, super heroes etc) figures because it gives them what they didnt have, what they dont have being raised by a single mother and few or no father figure at all during childhood and adolescence. They spend their whole life attempting to regain their virility that has been shut down forever by the lack of a caring father. They re often extremistic in everything they do, in the way they think, have psycho behavorial troubles, because basically they have a personnality that is too feminine. They try to hide it by overcompensating exagerely adopting looks and attitudes that they hope will hide the fact they re weak minded pansies.
Sons raised by decent fathers are balanced, have less difficulties adaptating to the real world and are more mature sooner, dont fall for most of life's traps as they re constantly and correctly adivsed by their fathers. Others just spend their whole life trying to get what they didnt have , hitting all the walls at full speed one after another. A lot dont see their 50s.
Yes, lifting weights can be good for health and sex appeal, but it doesnt change the fact that life is about so much more than just being muscular to impress people who most of the time dont give a fuck about muscles. Intelligence, money, power are what's important. Being loved by signifcant ones is what s important. Contributing, giving as much as you receive, is what's important. Your pathetic muscles are only 1 % of what life is about. And newsflashs; there s always someone bigger than you and there s a new sucker without a father figure born every second who will attempt to compensate by getting bigger than everyone else.
Yes, spending your life caring only about your muscles means there is something wrong with you. Yes it borders on homosexuality. Yes most men without a father figure are obsessive about muscles , theirs, and other men muscles because they want to become that perfect dad they never had, and want more than anything that love they never had, even if it means for some taking another old man s cock in their ass, one excess leading to another. Considering most sons without a father become manual workers and dont earn a lot of money, have no serious studies, education, they stagnate in the lower, nastier layers of the social pyramid and are more prone to do the stupidest, gayest shit to survive, they become filthy indivduals who only adapt by backstabing others every chance they get, that s what they learnt from the interactions between their own family members when they were young.
You can enjoy a healthy lifestyle, practise physical conditionning without being extremistic, obsessive about it and caring about others as much as you care about yourself. You can be balanced, and exist for others things that are more important at the same time than just being focused on your appearance. But it takes a sane, healhty, guided mind to do so, something very few have because they come from dysfunctonnal families with no or poor father figures.
Considering there s a growing number of sons raised by single mothers, the bodybuilding industry (homos, supplement and steroids dealers)have a nice future.
Very well written autobiography...
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Rather suffer from bigorexia than..... NSS!