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Bigorexia
« on: November 24, 2011, 11:05:28 AM »

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2011, 11:21:03 AM »
not this shit again..it's only the 999999999999999999999999 99999999999th time this shit is posted on here.


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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2011, 11:28:31 AM »
not this shit again..it's only the 999999999999999999999999 99999999999th time this shit is posted on here.


meh just about everything related to bodybuilding in the last 7 years has been repeat posts.


I hate it, it's a disease that this site pushes, I'm a big guy maybe not a bodybuilder, but I'm totally fucked from this site. I don't know how many times I've bitched about my twiskishness, to only get black stares, from 115 pound dude.  Seriously its pretty burnt how small the average guy is compared to what gets considered twink on this site.

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2011, 11:50:25 AM »
I'm 210 lbs lean at 6 foot and I still think I'm small. I remember thinking today in the gym (while looking at myself in the mirror) that I've gained a solid 40 lbs in 2 years (not all muscle, of course) but I still feel the same size.

when will it be mine time for mutation >:(

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2011, 11:59:29 AM »
Yeah, we know, we re all short, small or/and skinny kids / men on here with no father figures,  raised by  single mothers  who struggle in life and think that looking like arnold s will make us happy until we understand life is about so much more than this. Some will eventually grow out of it as they age finding some guidance, and a lot of others will be stuck in this immature , autistic obsession of wanting to become ''bigger'' at all costs, to compensate for the fact they had no father figure, a weak confidence, low self esteem deeply embeded in them as a result, and that's assuming there arent other weaknesses like being short/being unintelligent, uneducated, or having a small cock/being fugly, at play simultaenously.

Some guys are obsessed by big muscles and ''strong father'' (roided actors, super heroes etc) figures because it gives them what they didnt have, what they dont have being raised by a single mother and few or no father figure at all during childhood and adolescence. They spend their whole life attempting to regain their virility that has been shut down forever by the lack of a caring father. They re often extremistic in everything they do, in the way they think, have psycho behavorial troubles, because basically they have a personnality that is too feminine. They try to hide it by overcompensating exagerely adopting looks and attitudes that they hope will hide the fact they re weak minded pansies.

Sons raised by decent fathers are balanced, have less difficulties adaptating to the real world and are more mature sooner, dont fall for most of life's traps as they re constantly and correctly adivsed by their fathers. Others just spend their whole life trying to get what they didnt have , hitting all the walls at full speed one after another. A lot dont see their 50s.


Yes, lifting weights can be good for health and sex appeal, but it doesnt change the fact that life is about so much more than just being muscular to impress people who most of the time dont give a fuck about muscles. Intelligence, money, power are what's important. Being loved by signifcant ones is what s important. Contributing, giving as much as you receive, is what's important. Your pathetic muscles are only 1 % of what life is about. And newsflashs; there s always someone bigger than you and there s a new sucker without a father figure born every second who will attempt to compensate by getting bigger than everyone else.
Yes, spending your life caring only about your muscles means there is something wrong with you. Yes it  borders on homosexuality. Yes most men without a father figure are obsessive about muscles , theirs, and other men muscles because they want to become that perfect dad they never had, and want more than anything that love they never had, even if it means for some taking another old man s cock in their ass, one excess leading to another. Considering most sons without a father become manual workers  and dont earn a lot of money, have no serious studies, education, they stagnate in the lower, nastier layers of the social pyramid and are more prone to do the stupidest, gayest shit to survive, they become filthy indivduals who only adapt by backstabing others every chance they get, that s what they learnt from the interactions between their own family members when they were young.


You can enjoy a healthy lifestyle, practise physical conditionning without being extremistic, obsessive about it and caring about others as much as you care about yourself. You can be balanced, and exist for others things that are more important at the same time than just being focused on your appearance. But it takes a sane, healhty, guided mind to do so, something very few have because they come from dysfunctonnal families with no or poor father figures.


Considering there s a growing number of sons raised by single mothers, the bodybuilding industry (homos, supplement and steroids dealers)have a nice future.

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2011, 12:13:05 PM »
Yeah, we know, we re all short, small or/and skinny kids / men on here with no father figures,  raised by  single mothers  who struggle in life and think that looking like arnold s will make us happy until we understand life is about so much more than this. Some will eventually grow out of it as they age, and a lot of others will be stuck in this immature , autistic obsession of wanting to become ''bigger'' at all costs, to compensate for the fact they had no father figure, a weak confidence, low self esteem, and that's assuming there arent other weaknesses like being short/being unintelligent, uneducated, or having a small cock/being fugly, at play simultaenously.

Some guys are obsessed by big muscles and ''strong father'' (roided actors, super heroes etc) figures because it gives them what they didnt have, what they dont have being raised by a single mother and few or no father figure at all during childhood and adolescence. They spend their whole life attempting to regain their virility that has been shut down forever by the lack of a caring father. They re often extremistic in everything they do, in the way they think, have psycho behavorial troubles, because basically they have a personnality that is too feminine. They try to hide it by overcompensating exagerely adopting looks and attitudes that they hope will hide the fact they re weak minded pansies.

Sons raised by decent fathers are balanced, have less difficulties adaptating to the real world and are more mature sooner, dont fall for most of life's traps as they re constantly and correctly adivsed by their fathers. Others just spend their whole life trying to get what they didnt have .


Yes, lifting weights can be good for health and sex appeal, but it doesnt change the fact that life is about so much more than just being muscular to impress people who most of the time dont give a fuck about muscles. Intelligence, money, power are what's important.
Yes, spending your life caring only about your muscles means there is something wrong with you. Yes it  borders on homosexuality. Yes most men without a father figure are obsessive about muscles , theirs, and other men muscles because they want to become that perfect dad they never had, and want more than anything that love they never had, even if it means for some taking another old man s cock in their ass, one excess leading to another. Considering most sons without a father become manual workers  and dont earn a lot of money, have no serious studies, education, they stagnate in the lower, nastier layers of the social pyramid and are more prone to do the stupidest, gayest shit to survive, they become filthy indivduals who only adapt by backstabing others every chance they get, that s what they learnt from the interactions between their own family members when they were young.


You can enjoy a healthy lifestyle, practise physical conditionning without being extremistic, obsessive about it and caring about others as much as you care about yourself. You can be balanced, and exist for others things that are more important at the same time than just being focused on your appearance. But it takes a sane, healhty, guided mind to do so, something very few have because they come from dysfunctonnal families with no or poor father figures.


Considering there s a growing number of sons raised by single mothers, the bodybuilding industry (homos, supplement and steroids dealers)have a nice future.
While I do not mind this threads repetitive topic, your pseudo pysc diatribes are quite old.

For me I just I was watching an arnie video when I decided it'd be cool if I became big like arnold, thought it was easy as I was 19 at the time. I'm close enough to the goal that I shouldn't even care but this site time and time again reminds me how fucked we think.

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2011, 12:17:15 PM »
i dont think there is such a thing as bigorexia of body dysmorphic disorder, i think these things are normal, it's you trying to achieve something you believe will give you status, leverage, power, it will allow your organism to thrive so to speak, this is not abnormal. if a student never stops studying and always takes classes to get new degrees and this and that, does he have knowledge dysmorphic disorder lol... all this shit is normal

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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2011, 12:23:30 PM »
i dont think there is such a thing as bigorexia of body dysmorphic disorder, i think these things are normal, it's you trying to achieve something you believe will give you status, leverage, power, it will allow your organism to thrive so to speak, this is not abnormal. if a student never stops studying and always takes classes to get new degrees and this and that, does he have knowledge dysmorphic disorder lol... all this shit is normal
But it won't give you shit I guess thats why I hate is so much, bigorexia, is when its fucking pointless, a fat chick can't be anorexic, and twink can't be bigorexic, they both have room for improvement, bigorexic, applies to those that are fighiting a limit, not self control.

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2011, 12:31:42 PM »
i dont think there is such a thing as bigorexia of body dysmorphic disorder, i think these things are normal, it's you trying to achieve something you believe will give you status, leverage, power, it will allow your organism to thrive so to speak, this is not abnormal. if a student never stops studying and always takes classes to get new degrees and this and that, does he have knowledge dysmorphic disorder lol... all this shit is normal

Or, both, the insane studying and the insane abuse of drugs and gym time are disorders.  Its just more practical to give shit to vain drugadicts than chinese engineers.


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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2011, 12:34:27 PM »
they are fighting for status, not to break a limit, most girls who are beautiful and think theyre ugly etc, it's because they do what hey think should make them beautiful, they look at how other beautiful people are treated, and they think well I did xyz now treat me like heidi klum... but people around them just don't acknowledge their beauty, they refuse to give the subject that status, that love, that leverage.

it's all about leverage to have power over people, beauty is leverage, a beautyful woman marries a millionaire and he does what she wants him to do because then she gives him the status of having a beautiful wife, the happiness that sex and affection brings.

I didnt watch this clip on bigorexia, but I assume its some bodybuilder saying to the camera IM JUST NOT BIG ENOUGH WAH WAH. who knows what really goes through his mind, some guy said i'll give u air time if u say this or that so he said this or that...

what really happened is that when he saw huge guys he worshipped them, he got the urge to hand them their weights, to kiss ass, well he got big and no one kisses his ass so he must get bigger, problem is his persoanlity, that's why people don't worship him, but his organism doesn't get that, his organism says that the path to status is lifting and hormones and size, so that's what he does over an over and cries when it doesn't work

having muscle doesn't bring status in and of itself, social power is more complicated

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2011, 12:35:48 PM »
Or, both, the insane studying and the insane abuse of drugs and gym time are disorders.  Its just more practical to give shit to vain drugadicts than chinese engineers.


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the reason those things are called disorders by the medical establishment is related to the medical establishment making $$$

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2011, 01:39:04 PM »
Depends on your surroundings when growing up. If you're a competitive person there'll be some form of bigorexia involved. It's natural unless it consumes all your life. I bet cavemen also had it.
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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2011, 02:17:41 PM »
i dont think there is such a thing as bigorexia of body dysmorphic disorder, i think these things are normal, it's you trying to achieve something you believe will give you status, leverage, power, it will allow your organism to thrive so to speak, this is not abnormal. if a student never stops studying and always takes classes to get new degrees and this and that, does he have knowledge dysmorphic disorder lol... all this shit is normal
it is normal in the sense it is an animal behavior, an attempt to adapt to survive developing a strategy of survival . The purpose of the brain; calculating how to conceive strategies of survival to adapt and dominate, a process which when it succeeds produces ''hapiness''. What is adapted, survives, and feels happy, what isnt adapted has lower odds of survival, and feel frustrated; smells like death in the original jungle/savanna.

Of course it is ''normal''. A normal animalistic behavior in the human specie. It is abnormal when it becomes exagerely obsessive, when it prevents an individual from doing others things like getting an education, a good job, to create a family and to raise kids, which are others ''things'' that are important in life to feel fulfilled.

You cant spend your whole life on hormones , and attempting to dominate every one physically anyways. At some point your extremistic , obsessive bullshit strategy of survival doesnt work anymore, and what is left then?

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2011, 02:21:23 PM »
the reason those things are called disorders by the medical establishment is related to the medical establishment making $$$
no you pathetic dumbfuck. Thats because it doesnt allow normal functionning in society which is defined by living a healthy lifestyle without the constant use of drugs to feel alive, and because it doesnt allow most of the time to be a decent father figure or husband either which means producing more dysfunctionnal families. Addictions are extremes that are unhealthy , destructive, for both the individual and his loved ones, when he s able to have loved ones which is rare with most autistic ''bodybuilders''.

as soon as drugs are involved, it s extremistic, unhealthy. as soon as you only focus on your shity bbing ''carreer'' , whore yourself to sugar daddies or momies, do gay 4 pay cause you cant even work at the local mac donald, it's viewed by people with a better education and who come from stable families as Disorders.

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2011, 02:22:36 PM »
I feel I'm small.  I look in the mirror when I'm working out "My God I don't look big."  Then I see some other gymrat next to me I see the size difference in him and me.  I'm at 230 lbs.

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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2011, 02:26:20 PM »
Some days I absolutely disappear from the side, I don't even look like I go to the gym. Then on other days I look at myself from the side and I'm one thick guy.

when will it be mine time for thickness all year round

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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2011, 02:28:06 PM »
I feel I'm small.  I look in the mirror when I'm working out "My God I don't look big."  Then I see some other gymrat next to me I see the size difference in him and me.  I'm at 230 lbs.
you can lift as much as you want, inject as much as you want, it will never ever cure your insecurity which originates in past traumas that happened during childhood, the main and most common one being not having been loved, taken care enough by a decent father figure.

The short good feeling after lifting weights is temporary and linked to the production of neurotransmitters of hapiness in the brain, dopamine, serotonin, it also creates addiction so you repeat the routine. But it doesnt last long. Later you come back to your average mood, your average level of well beingness, which is determined by how you ve been loved-or not loved- during your childhood.

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2011, 02:28:10 PM »
the dominating thing, it's an illusion, just like the alpha male thing, it doesn't really happen

the people who "suffer" from this "condition," their organism understands that the path they are taking is the path they should take to have power, to own real estate in other people's minds, then to have money because money is the realization of power

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2011, 02:31:17 PM »
you can lift as much as you want, inject as much as you want, it will never ever cure your insecurity which originates in past traumas that happened during childhood, the main and most common one being not having been loved, taken care enough by a decent father figure.

Uberman you're right even on the part about issues w/the father.  If it wasn't for low self-esteem I wouldn't be obsessed about working out and everything.  It has its advantages.

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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2011, 02:32:30 PM »
no you pathetic dumbfuck. Thats because it doesnt allow normal functionning in society which is defined by living a healthy lifestyle without the constant use of drugs to feel alive, and because it doesnt allow most of the time to be a decent father figure or husband either which means producing more dysfunctionnal families. Addictions are extremes that are unhealthy , destructive, for both the individual and his loved ones, when he s able to have loved ones which is rare with most autistic ''bodybuilders''.

as soon as drugs are involved, it s extremistic, unhealthy. as soon as you only focus on your shity bbing ''carreer'' , whore yourself to sugar daddies or momies, do gay 4 pay cause you cant even work at the local mac donald, it's viewed by people with a better education and who come from stable families as Disorders.

listen, do you think the medical establishment makes prozac and has doctors prescribe it out of the good of their hearts? u cant sell drugs to a corpse, that's why suicide is "unhealthy," thats why they try to stop it. how do they stop "disorders" that you call unhealthy, D-R-U-G-S. Ok? you say anything that has to do drugs is unhealthy, tell that to all the house wives on pills or in therapy because someone invented a disorder so that doctos could prescribe them drugs

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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2011, 02:37:01 PM »
you can dominate in life with studies, a good job that requires the use of all your best strenghts, which allows you to contribute fully to the specie that spawned you. By being successful socio professionnaly and by giving birth and raising happy individuals who will also contribute to mankind, to the specie.

This is the benevolant, healhty way of contributing to mankind; you dominate by giving as much as you receive using your full potential.

And then, there s everything else. The others main strategies of survival.

For example, the uneducated loser with charisma linked to his muscles, who only exists because of his muscles, who only impress, dominate others with them. But to keep being respected -feared- and to keep impressing, the muscles must stay, and you want more, so at some point considering they re everything you have, you go the steroid route.

No chance he gets an education, a good job, he didnt have a father to give him guidance, he s an atheist, he s an asshole, insecure about his own sexuality,so he survives in the gutters, the low part of the pyramid, can barely work a normal job and gets pissed by everything, always thinking about what he could have done if only his father actually invested in him, gave him soemthing instad of abandonning him.


There you have it, the roots of good and evil, where it all starts for a male in the human specie.

Who raises secure kids, sons and daughters, who contribute to society, and dont fall for all the extremes, traps? The hard working faithful man.





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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2011, 02:42:47 PM »
the reason those things are called disorders by the medical establishment is related to the medical establishment making $$$

I think its perfectly reasonable to say that taking something to such extreme extremes is unhealthy, but I do agree that you can make an argument for "what is healthy and what not" and circle around that.

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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2011, 02:46:11 PM »
u dont really understand, it's not about dominating, open your ears and put down ur little alpha male handbook.

u dont go to school and study in order to dominate at studying, you go in order to have something to LEVERAGE, that being knowledge or skills or whatever

the key to power is leverage, you can leverage ur beauty if you have that, leverage ur big dick if u have that too

with power you get money, money is just your realization of power

this dominating thing... no no, there was and never will be this dominathing thing. if you are a guy who thinks hes dominant, what happens is people like women will realize, ok for him to do what I tell him to do I have to pretend that he dominates me, I have to act submissive, but those people never truly submit they only act like they do, once you fuck up they treat you like a child because you are a child who read somewhere that he should act like he's dominant, bit you aren't actually dominant, so they flip the table on yo whenever they feel like it

the key is to have leverage

and you mentioned happiness, happiness is very simple, it's simply the assertion of having social power, that's what a smile is, same thing as an upward turned tail on a dog

one thing that will help you to understand this is that social status is not dicated by a linear, two dimentional hierarchy, it's more complicated where a a>b>c>a situation can arise because there are different types of leverage

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Re: Bigorexia
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2011, 02:47:46 PM »
I think its perfectly reasonable to say that taking something to such extreme extremes is unhealthy, but I do agree that you can make an argument for "what is healthy and what not" and circle around that.

it doesn't matter that it's unhealthy, who said everyone must be healthy, things like suicide are normal too, they happen in animals of different species, to call something normal or unhealthy... what does this do exactly, how does it change the nature of the thing ur talking about

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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2011, 02:50:26 PM »
it doesn't matter that it's unhealthy, who said everyone must be healthy, things like suicide are normal too, they happen in animals of different species, to call something normal or unhealthy... what does this do exactly, how does it change the nature of the thing ur talking about

Doing anything to such extreme can constitute being a disorder, thats all Im saying, you talk about health, and Im not trying to say what is or what is not, its just that all conducts can be extreme or obssesive, gaming, lifting, fucking, etc.

Oh, and I do think a standard of health is needed.  But thats not to discuss here.