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Title: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: BIG DUB on November 29, 2011, 05:01:14 PM

part1

http://www.flexonline.com/videos/training/phil-heath-trains-juan-morel-and-jon-delarosapart-1


part 2

http://www.flexonline.com/videos/training/under-squat-bar-phil-heath-training-series-part-2
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: danabol on November 29, 2011, 05:12:47 PM
is Heath high all the time..his eyes alway look like piss holes in the snow to me....
mans jacked 24/7 ant he...

anyway the other guy looks bigger lol  ;D
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: farrellzach on November 29, 2011, 05:21:25 PM
I really hope the Q & A stuff was staged, otherwise Morel comes off at a certified retard.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Wiggs on November 29, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
holy shit phil shrinks quick. :-X
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Xerxes on November 29, 2011, 05:37:50 PM
He's wearing a big tshirt covering up his entire physique including arms(!), give him a fuckin break  ::)
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 29, 2011, 05:39:15 PM
just reading the title of this thread made me laugh....
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: tbombz on November 29, 2011, 05:46:57 PM
cool video


phil drops some knowledge if your willing to pick up on it



He's wearing a big tshirt covering up his entire physique including arms(!), give him a fuckin break  ::)
haters gonna hate




Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Hulkotron on November 29, 2011, 06:02:21 PM
Narrow Mr. Olymp
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: seCrawler on November 29, 2011, 06:12:00 PM
Boring.  Now, Phil can't complete a sentence since he became Mr.O.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: deadz on November 29, 2011, 06:12:50 PM
I wonder how Juan would score on an IQ test.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: jude2 on November 29, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
holy shit phil shrinks quick. :-X
I agree. Jon a new pro looks bigger.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: PJim on November 29, 2011, 06:55:36 PM
Phil's got a big head.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2011, 06:56:40 PM
they all admire jay
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: QuakerOats on November 29, 2011, 07:09:32 PM
Phils hands are fucking huge, next time you watch those clips take a look at them.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: epic_alien on November 29, 2011, 11:06:02 PM
heath kept trying to tell morell that higher reps ranges with less rest will grow the legs. yet somehow he kept second guessing it and acting like a amature about it. strange considering he is a pro now and a great body, yet not absorbing the things health was saying.


delarosa has it down, better form and obviously more disciplined in the gym.

higher reps is where its at with legs growth, thankfully i found that out early.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: delta9mda on November 29, 2011, 11:23:41 PM
heath laying down the knowledge. haterz gonna hate.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: ChevChelios on November 30, 2011, 12:05:13 AM
Damn,we have the first olympian able to speak correct and more than 5 words at a time without getting out of breath  8)
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: DorianGrey on November 30, 2011, 12:16:46 AM
damn man ...juan making us dominicans look bad ..

y cant he just shut da fuck up and listen? Jon is.

jon is def more srs about his craft.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: wes on November 30, 2011, 01:43:22 AM
Jon`s a real nice guy and very humble.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Swede! on November 30, 2011, 04:00:07 AM
which one killed a baby? or was it a missunderstanding?
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Mothballs on November 30, 2011, 10:09:09 AM
which one killed a baby? or was it a missunderstanding?

Killed a baby? WTF..........

I only watched the 2nd video. But Juans squat form was terrible. It almost looked like a good morning. He's gonna kill his back squatting like that.

Jon on the other hand had great form and was surprisingly strong.

Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 30, 2011, 10:32:37 AM
Heath has about as much knowledge about this as a random bro scientist in the gym. The difference is hormones, and his response in comparison to the other losers Pros.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: QuakerOats on November 30, 2011, 10:32:46 AM
heath kept trying to tell morell that higher reps ranges with less rest will grow the legs. yet somehow he kept second guessing it and acting like a amature about it. strange considering he is a pro now and a great body, yet not absorbing the things health was saying.


delarosa has it down, better form and obviously more disciplined in the gym.

higher reps is where its at with legs growth, thankfully i found that out early.
not to mention the fact that Delarosa form was way more conducive to actually building muscle in the legs as opposed to Morel who just appeared to be leveraging the weight with his ass the whole time, if you watch him squat its like his thighs barely move and his ass does all the work.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: QuakerOats on November 30, 2011, 10:35:17 AM
Killed a baby? WTF..........

I only watched the 2nd video. But Juans squat form was terrible. It almost looked like a good morning. He's gonna kill his back squatting like that.

Jon on the other hand had great form and was surprisingly strong.


he does what anyone who tries to appear strong in the squat does when they really arent, he keeps his hips locked in place and leverages the weight with his ass and back, any true squatter can unlock their hips and go all the way down, thats squatting.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Mothballs on November 30, 2011, 10:42:18 AM
not to mention the fact that Delarosa form was way more conducive to actually building muscle in the legs as opposed to Morel who just appeared to be leveraging the weight with his ass the whole time, if you watch him squat its like his thighs barely move and his ass does all the work.

Totally. He used the squat to work his lower back and ass.

He needs to lower the weight and actually work the quads.

If Phil was really helping him out he would have told him how shitty his form was and instructed him how to improve it.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: QuakerOats on November 30, 2011, 10:44:28 AM
Totally. He used the squat to work his lower back and ass.

He needs to lower the weight and actually work the quads.

If Phil was really helping him out he would have told him how shitty his form was and instructed him how to improve it.
if you look at where he places the bar on his back and then how he spreads his feet its as if hes deliberately making his body shorter to increase his leverage, that form is fine for powerlifting where the point is to move the biggest weight from point A to point B but look closely at his quads when he squats, they hardly move and they definitely dont flex.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Nails on November 30, 2011, 10:46:03 AM
he does what anyone who tries to appear strong in the squat does when they really arent, he keeps his hips locked in place and leverages the weight with his ass and back, any true squatter can unlock their hips and go all the way down, thats squatting.

tips from the squadFather
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: QuakerOats on November 30, 2011, 10:48:39 AM
tips from the squadFather
its true though, go back and watch that clip and i'll gaurantee you that if youd have seen Delarosas quads they would have way more development than Juans, Delarosas squat form is as picture perfect as ive ever seen from a bodybuilder, almost reminds me of Tom Platz, like a piston moving up and down.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Mothballs on November 30, 2011, 10:49:19 AM
if you look at where he places the bar on his back and then how he spreads his feet its as if hes deliberately making his body shorter to increase his leverage, that form is fine for powerlifting where the point is to move the biggest weight from point A to point B but look closely at his quads when he squats, they hardly move and they definitely dont flex.

I totally agree.

It resembles a good morning more then it does a squat. His quads get zero out of that movement.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: Mothballs on November 30, 2011, 10:54:13 AM
its true though, go back and watch that clip and i'll gaurantee you that if youd have seen Delarosas quads they would have way more development than Juans, Delarosas squat form is as picture perfect as ive ever seen from a bodybuilder, almost reminds me of Tom Platz, like a piston moving up and down.

And Jon is a really small heavyweight whereas Juan is a Super heavy.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/14301/5094/d/img_05681280697218.jpg)


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o468UqsRY-Q/TkQo6bExkCI/AAAAAAAAC90/XpfRuGTWHCk/s1600/JuanMorel13.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: BiGHer on November 30, 2011, 10:56:20 AM
Heath actually gave some solid training tips about longevity in this sport and he is a solid spokesperson as Mr. O.  It's easy to see why they would want him to be the ambassador of this sport.  All the guys who had long AND HEALTHY (meaning no major physical injuries) careers trained smarter not harder.  Even for all the weight Coleman would move, he was still a volume guy on a day to day basis throughout his bodybuilding career.  

On another note, Phil does look a little bit narrow here, but I am wondering what material that tee shirt is made of??

Phil, if you are reading this, what material is that Gifted Athletics shirt made from?

Jon and Juan are both talented bodybuilders.  Juan has a great structure, similar to Vic Martinez actually (my training partner pointed this out and when I looked at it more closely, he's right) and Jon is a thick guy.  However, I still wonder why Flex signed Juan??  Strictly thinking from a business standpoint, the guy sounds really bad on camera.  Not that most bodybuilders sound like they won the Pulitzer or anything, but Juan sounds so bad that it actually is distracting.

Anyway, just my 2 pennies...
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: QuakerOats on November 30, 2011, 10:56:41 AM
And Jon is a really small heavyweight whereas Juan is a Super heavy.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/14301/5094/d/img_05681280697218.jpg)


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o468UqsRY-Q/TkQo6bExkCI/AAAAAAAAC90/XpfRuGTWHCk/s1600/JuanMorel13.jpg)
exactly my point, look at the difference in thickness and development, Juans arent bad just not as thick and full as Delarosas and they definitley dont match his upper body in size.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: deadz on November 30, 2011, 06:28:00 PM
Philsulin wins the Olympia and now he is a guru, LOL at this world.
Title: Re: Phil Heath trains Juan Morel and Jon Delarosa
Post by: BIG DUB on November 30, 2011, 07:20:08 PM
part 3

http://www.flexonline.com/videos/training/phil-heath-trains-juan-morel-and-jon-delarosapart-3