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Whether or not he can win is irrelevant.
I am voting for him in the primary.
I hate Romney. Newt is a disaster ( his past, his questionable political decisions, his personal life).
Paul is the only sane choice ( I never thought I would say that).
Now, that said, anyone gets my vote other than Osama.
However, with my endorsement, Paul may have the kind of broad based support from the right he needs to seal the deal. Since I announced that I was backing him 12 seconds ago, he already shot up 4% across the board in virtually every primary poll.
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Whether or not he can win is irrelevant.
I am voting for him in the primary.
I hate Romney. Newt is a disaster ( his past, his questionable political decisions, his personal life).
Paul is the only sane choice ( I never thought I would say that).
Now, that said, anyone gets my vote other than Osama.
However, with my endorsement, Paul may have the kind of broad based support from the right he needs to seal the deal. Since I announced that I was backing him 12 seconds ago, he already shot up 4% across the board in virtually every primary poll.
Holy shit. Me and your retarded ass finally agree on something.
Option D for Ron Paul
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x fucking 3
Paul for the win, dont care if he loses, I refuse to give my vote to any of the other shitheads running this election.
Its pathetic, seems every fucking election our options get worse and worse....
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Whether or not he can win is irrelevant.
I am voting for him in the primary.
I hate Romney. Newt is a disaster ( his past, his questionable political decisions, his personal life).
Paul is the only sane choice ( I never thought I would say that).
Now, that said, anyone gets my vote other than Osama.
However, with my endorsement, Paul may have the kind of broad based support from the right he needs to seal the deal. Since I announced that I was backing him 12 seconds ago, he already shot up 4% across the board in virtually every primary poll.
Well you are not alone
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And people says he doesnt have a chance?
I think people WANT to believe that so they can keep believing in the lies they've been told.
RP all the way
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Holy shit, Did the world just stop spinning for a second? I felt so alone a couple of years ago at the last election, but not so much this time around. Lol
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Another one has seen the light, paul will win nomination, a tidal wave of truth is sweeping the nation
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Paul.....he's a leftists wet dream. You think he'll be able to cut any of the crap he wants to domestically..hell no. He sure as hell will be able to pack our shit all over the planet though. Ask yourself why the Left never attacks this guy and why he pals around with Dennis Kucinich.
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Yeah.....all over the web Libs are slobbering over themselves over this idiot.
The state of the world is unarguably dire. Wars for empire, huge gaps between the rich and the poor, environmental catastrophe, unending consumer waste, etc. In 2012, socially aware folks will once again find it a gross waste of both their time and their effort to vote for anyone since- realistically- all votes count toward the continuation of the establishment in the end.
There is one politician however that true liberals, anarchists, environmentalists and other types of conscious folks should at least try supporting- and that is Ron Paul.
Sure, Ron Paul’s economics are flawed considering that he is a self professed Capitalist and proponent of the so called “free-market”. However, the man has his head screwed on properly when it comes to virtually everything else- especially war.
Ron Paul wants to end America’s empire abroad. Pulling troops out of virtually every country on Earth will send great relief to the peoples of this planet suffering beneath the iron hand of the despotic American government. Torture, secret arrests, predator drones and the like will play no part in Ron Paul’s hypothetical administration if elected President.
Ron Paul also wants to put an end to America’s failed war on drugs. If elected, Paul wouldn’t tolerate the locking up of individuals simply for their drug habits. A great sense of true freedom will be felt in this respect if the U.S. government just stopped playing mommy and daddy by punishing- even in some cases- sick people who rely on- say marijuana- to ease whatever ailment they might be experiencing.
It’s important to look past many of the components of Paul’s philosophies which one might tend to disagree with and to simply embrace that which can be agreed with. Undoubtedly, Ron Paul is the best choice out of every one of the corporate controlled, war-mongering puppet politicians running for President in 2012.
Socially conscious folks such as myself wish to see a great liberation of the human species from the various ills which have held us back for so many years. Electing Ron Paul to office is the start of this process. Its later on that we can build on the foundations of sanity that a Paul administration would bring to both this country and this world.
Yeah...thats sounds like conservative America.
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Holy shit. Me and your retarded ass finally agree on something.
Option D for Ron Paul
I also agree with both of you!
This is a great day in getbig history!
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Holy shit. Me and your retarded ass finally agree on something.
Option D for Ron Paul
count in 240 (shitbag lib), 333386 (batshit crazy neo-tea partier), Fury, Hugo....
Ron Paul has a wide range of support.
He's vowed to cut the military by 50%, I can figure why hh6 doesn't like him.
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He won't be able to that the same way he won't be able to cut all the social entitlement programs that all of the libertarians love him here for. Look at the shit he says..he's nuts on all of it.
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He won't be able to that the same way he won't be able to cut all the social entitlement programs that all of the libertarians love him here for. Look at the shit he says..he's nuts on all of it.
presidents have done a lot of htings that people have said "He won't be able to do that..."
Hell, even if he ends up cutting it by 10 or 20%.... I mean, I don't think north korea is suddenly going to take over the world if there's only 40k US troops on their border, instead of 50K.
Mark Levin was bashing the shit out of ron paul, saying it would be terrible if he keeps getting his 15 and 18% and ends up winning the nomination because he can't go after the military like that.
Then levin went on to defend Newt as a lifetime conservative... so full of shit.
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He won't be able to that the same way he won't be able to cut all the social entitlement programs that all of the libertarians love him here for. Look at the shit he says..he's nuts on all of it.
First and foremost, attitudes have to change and Ron is doing that. People like you will require more time but eventually the logic will sink through.
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Here is an example of why the far right hates RP
The far right lives in fear and craves an authority figure to tell them what to do even if it means taking away the very freedom that our country was founded upon
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newt's a pig.
romney's a phony.
ron paul is honest and humble.
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Yeah.....all over the web Libs are slobbering over themselves over this idiot.
The state of the world is unarguably dire. Wars for empire, huge gaps between the rich and the poor, environmental catastrophe, unending consumer waste, etc. In 2012, socially aware folks will once again find it a gross waste of both their time and their effort to vote for anyone since- realistically- all votes count toward the continuation of the establishment in the end.
There is one politician however that true liberals, anarchists, environmentalists and other types of conscious folks should at least try supporting- and that is Ron Paul.
Sure, Ron Paul’s economics are flawed considering that he is a self professed Capitalist and proponent of the so called “free-market”. However, the man has his head screwed on properly when it comes to virtually everything else- especially war.
Ron Paul wants to end America’s empire abroad. Pulling troops out of virtually every country on Earth will send great relief to the peoples of this planet suffering beneath the iron hand of the despotic American government. Torture, secret arrests, predator drones and the like will play no part in Ron Paul’s hypothetical administration if elected President.
Ron Paul also wants to put an end to America’s failed war on drugs. If elected, Paul wouldn’t tolerate the locking up of individuals simply for their drug habits. A great sense of true freedom will be felt in this respect if the U.S. government just stopped playing mommy and daddy by punishing- even in some cases- sick people who rely on- say marijuana- to ease whatever ailment they might be experiencing.
It’s important to look past many of the components of Paul’s philosophies which one might tend to disagree with and to simply embrace that which can be agreed with. Undoubtedly, Ron Paul is the best choice out of every one of the corporate controlled, war-mongering puppet politicians running for President in 2012.
Socially conscious folks such as myself wish to see a great liberation of the human species from the various ills which have held us back for so many years. Electing Ron Paul to office is the start of this process. Its later on that we can build on the foundations of sanity that a Paul administration would bring to both this country and this world.
Yeah...thats sounds like conservative America.
Is RP's economic policies flawed? Is Peter Schiff's too? What economic policy do you support?
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my guess (and just a guess) is that most troops on the battlefield like Ron paul - he will bring them home and end silly occupations after 10 years.
and that most people further up in the military - 20 year enlisted, etc - don't like the spending cuts he has in mind.
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Ron Paul is a naive moron. We've been down this road before and it has always ended badly.
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RP needs to STFU On this. Cant believe he said this.
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Ron Paul: 9/11 prompted "glee" in Bush administration
CBS News ^ | 12/09/2011 | Brian Montopoli
Posted on December 9, 2011 1:14:48 PM EST by Responsibility2nd
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Thursday evening that Bush administration officials were gleeful after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks because it gave them a pretext to invade Iraq.
"Just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq," the Texas Republican told a group of mostly young backers in Iowa. He went on to suggest officials are now setting the stage for an invasion of Iran.
Paul, who was tied for second in this week's CBS News/New York Times poll of likely Iowa caucus-goers, is making a strong push in the Hawkeye state in hopes of scoring an upset victory in the first-in-the-nation January 3 caucuses. Paul volunteers have been working to convince Paul's mostly young supporters - many of whom will be on holiday break from college when the caucuses take place - to be sure to make it to their caucus site.
Paul's libertarian views - on the foreign policy front, he wants to dramatically reduce the U.S. military presence abroad and end all foreign aid - put him at odds with many Republican voters. A poll from Gallup this week found that 62 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning independent voters see Paul as an unacceptable nominee.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
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RP needs to STFU On this. Cant believe he said this.
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Ron Paul: 9/11 prompted "glee" in Bush administration
CBS News ^ | 12/09/2011 | Brian Montopoli
Posted on December 9, 2011 1:14:48 PM EST by Responsibility2nd
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Thursday evening that Bush administration officials were gleeful after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks because it gave them a pretext to invade Iraq.
"Just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately before there was any assessment there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq," the Texas Republican told a group of mostly young backers in Iowa. He went on to suggest officials are now setting the stage for an invasion of Iran.
Paul, who was tied for second in this week's CBS News/New York Times poll of likely Iowa caucus-goers, is making a strong push in the Hawkeye state in hopes of scoring an upset victory in the first-in-the-nation January 3 caucuses. Paul volunteers have been working to convince Paul's mostly young supporters - many of whom will be on holiday break from college when the caucuses take place - to be sure to make it to their caucus site.
Paul's libertarian views - on the foreign policy front, he wants to dramatically reduce the U.S. military presence abroad and end all foreign aid - put him at odds with many Republican voters. A poll from Gallup this week found that 62 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning independent voters see Paul as an unacceptable nominee.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
you really hate freedom of speech in anyone other than yourself
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33,
17 members of the Bush administration had written (in 2000) about the very real need to invade multiple nations in the middle east, or we'd be screwed 20 years down the road for energy.
They said public opinion would never allow for such invasions - without a 'catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor'.
So while maybe they didn't cause it - it certainly allowed them to open up the can of whoopass they said was IMPERATIVE in order to preserve the US way of life.
Ron Paul is 100% correct here. Remember Rummy writing to his DoD, telling them to find a way to connect iraq with 911, using any info "real or otherwise"?
Even if it was only 19 arabs with pricks that did 911... it fit the bill for the Bush admin. These are facts, my cue balled friend :)
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How onearth does he think he will win the primary saying shit like this?
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LOL at our resident commie hunter who thinks other people shouldn't have the right to free speech and can't be trusted to vote "correctly"
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LOL at our resident commie hunter who thinks other people shouldn't have the right to free speech and can't be trusted to vote "correctly"
Truth. I think you should STFU.
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Truth. I think you should STFU.
of course you do
you're a communist and you hate free speech
you hate that people have the right to vote and you hate this country
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How onearth does he think he will win the primary saying shit like this?
dude dosent play politics. not going to say crap just to get elected. Very Respectable.
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dude dosent play politics. not going to say crap just to get elected. Very Respectable.
That's fine - but alienating people you need to win like this is going to backfire big time.
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That's fine - but alienating people you need to win like this is going to backfire big time.
Fuck those idiots
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Ron Paul is a naive moron. We've been down this road before and it has always ended badly.
When have we had a man like Ron Paul as president ???
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Isolationist policies don't work....they didn't work 60 years ago and they won't work now. RP will be a disaster as president. Who on either side is going to go along with this guy.
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Isolationist policies don't work....they didn't work 60 years ago and they won't work now. RP will be a disaster as president. Who on either side is going to go along with this guy.
RP is not a freaking isolationist.
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RP is his own worst enemy. He keeps up w this truther bs and keeps attacking fellow repubs vs obama - he can kis any chance of increased support goodbye. Dumb dumb dumb.
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RP is his own worst enemy. He keeps up w this truther bs and keeps attacking fellow repubs vs obama - he can kis any chance of increased support goodbye. Dumb dumb dumb.
what truther bs? What he said doesn't make him a truther lol...
Why you spend so much time digging up shit against Paul is beyond me.
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This was from this week and many repubs are discussing it. If rp wants to get ahead I said many times what he needs to do.
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I don't know what the big deal is. Bush was happy they had a reason to go after Saddam, that's not saying he was happy 9/11 happened. Bush wanted to go into Iraq before Afghanistan. The neoconservatives from his admin wrote before 9/11 that they needed something like this to happen before they could get done the things they wanted to do. People from the Bush admin have come out describing the president as having walleye vision in regards to going after Saddam.
Paul might not have picked the best words for what he wanted to say but I don't think this is reason to flip out and not vote for him.
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Just saying that campaign messaging needs to change.
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That's fine - but alienating people you need to win like this is going to backfire big time.
Care to bet $10,000 on it?
HAHAHAHAHAH Romney is so fucked.
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Isolationist policies don't work....they didn't work 60 years ago and they won't work now. RP will be a disaster as president. Who on either side is going to go along with this guy.
So you want a politic more aligned with the one GWB employed ???
I know wars is stable work for you but really?
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RP is his own worst enemy. He keeps up w this truther bs and keeps attacking fellow repubs vs obama - he can kis any chance of increased support goodbye. Dumb dumb dumb.
Because his fellow repub are just as bad as Obama
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Isolationist policies don't work....they didn't work 60 years ago and they won't work now. RP will be a disaster as president. Who on either side is going to go along with this guy.
60 years ago ??? Is that your argument?
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RP is his own worst enemy. He keeps up w this truther bs and keeps attacking fellow repubs vs obama - he can kis any chance of increased support goodbye. Dumb dumb dumb.
His fellow repub are retards
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-24-2011/end-o-potamia
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I really don't think rp really want to win. He could be at the very top easily now and he refuses to go there. His refusal to attack obama directly and forcefully is mind boggling.
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Isolationist policies don't work....they didn't work 60 years ago and they won't work now. RP will be a disaster as president. Who on either side is going to go along with this guy.
Because our foreign policy of the last 60 years has been such a huge success.
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Can someone please give me a reasonable reason why rp thinks attacking fellow repubs is a better strategy than attacking obama in light of the fact that newt rose to the top solely focusing on attacking obama?
I like rp and most liklely will vote for him in the primary - but geez - his campaign strategy is beyond words in terms of chances of success.
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Paul.....he's a leftists wet dream. You think he'll be able to cut any of the crap he wants to domestically..hell no. He sure as hell will be able to pack our shit all over the planet though. Ask yourself why the Left never attacks this guy and why he pals around with Dennis Kucinich.
He pals around with Kucinich, because he's the only other honest member of Congress.
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count in 240 (shitbag lib), 333386 (batshit crazy neo-tea partier), Fury, Hugo....
Ron Paul has a wide range of support.
hahahahahahhaha
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RP needs to STFU On this. Cant believe he said this.
I'm baffled by this post? What was wrong with what he said? I'm sincerely curious, I agree with RP here...
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I dont love his foreign policy except for two things: Ending all aid, and letting Israel take the gloves off
Im not crazy about his isolationism or his idiotic views on national defense
However, all the candidates have flaws-- and I agree with his economic views 100%, I agree with his social views across the board and I agree with maybe 50% of his foreign policy.
No other candidate from our side gets those approvals from me. By default, he's the man I'm supporting.
Our system needs to be changed radically. All that has happened must be undone. He is the man for the job.
A new era of amoral, right wingers needs to bring america back to life.
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I'm baffled by this post? What was wrong with what he said? I'm sincerely curious, I agree with RP here...
If rp thinks that a winning message is to say george bush and co were gleeful on 911 so that they could attack iraq, especially in a gop primary, well I don't want here anyone bitch about him losing. And those whiners better not claim victim status either. That is beyond incompetent bordering on insane if he thinks that message will work in the primary. Its political malpractice.
He needs to expand his base of support, not play in to the misgiivings so many have about him.
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I dont love his foreign policy except for two things: Ending all aid, and letting Israel take the gloves off
Im not crazy about his isolationism or his idiotic views on national defense
However, all the candidates have flaws-- and I agree with his economic views 100%, I agree with his social views across the board and I agree with maybe 50% of his foreign policy.
No other candidate from our side gets those approvals from me. By default, he's the man I'm supporting.
Our system needs to be changed radically. All that has happened must be undone. He is the man for the job.
A new era of amoral, right wingers needs to bring america back to life.
Agreed. Well said. 8)
Fix the economy, end the welfare state, end foreign aid and the US involvement in the UN. Sounds like a winner.
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I dont love his foreign policy except for two things: Ending all aid, and letting Israel take the gloves off
Im not crazy about his isolationism or his idiotic views on national defense
However, all the candidates have flaws-- and I agree with his economic views 100%, I agree with his social views across the board and I agree with maybe 50% of his foreign policy.
No other candidate from our side gets those approvals from me. By default, he's the man I'm supporting.
Our system needs to be changed radically. All that has happened must be undone. He is the man for the job.
A new era of amoral, right wingers needs to bring america back to life.
wow, I am happily surprised to read this, especially because you have a way of intelligently expressing your opinion and thats what his campaign needs more of from his supporters There are still way too many distortions from the press on the views you and I agree with him on. I can live with the fact that you don't completly agree with his foriegn policy but I feel its becasue he does a piss poor job of explaining his position. I kinda feel sorry for him when he gets asked those types of questions as you can see how his demeaner changes and he isnt as confident explaining himself. It's definatly a tough one to get through to some and he takes a lot of heat but I admire his courage. Overall, he is the best candidate though.
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I really don't think rp really want to win. He could be at the very top easily now and he refuses to go there. His refusal to attack obama directly and forcefully is mind boggling.
I really dont think you will vote RP you are looking for every excuse not too, so you can keep following the neocon agenda
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If rp thinks that a winning message is to say george bush and co were gleeful on 911 so that they could attack iraq, especially in a gop primary, well I don't want here anyone bitch about him losing. And those whiners better not claim victim status either. That is beyond incompetent bordering on insane if he thinks that message will work in the primary. Its political malpractice.
He needs to expand his base of support, not play in to the misgiivings so many have about him.
Its the truth isnt that want you want from the pres ???
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Agreed. Well said. 8)
Fix the economy, end the welfare state, end foreign aid and the US involvement in the UN. Sounds like a winner.
+2
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Because our foreign policy of the last 60 years has been such a huge success.
Booommm
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I really dont think you will vote RP you are looking for every excuse not too, so you can keep following the neocon agenda
Yeak ok chief.
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Isolationist policies don't work....they didn't work 60 years ago and they won't work now. RP will be a disaster as president. Who on either side is going to go along with this guy.
Agree as it relates to him being an isolationist and being a terrible CIC.
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I dont love his foreign policy except for two things: Ending all aid, and letting Israel take the gloves off
Im not crazy about his isolationism or his idiotic views on national defense
However, all the candidates have flaws-- and I agree with his economic views 100%, I agree with his social views across the board and I agree with maybe 50% of his foreign policy.
No other candidate from our side gets those approvals from me. By default, he's the man I'm supporting.
Our system needs to be changed radically. All that has happened must be undone. He is the man for the job.
A new era of amoral, right wingers needs to bring america back to life.
This is the most reasonable argument I've heard for Ron Paul on the board.