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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: armchairifbbjudge on December 29, 2011, 03:27:12 PM
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born to be big
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:D
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those are some ripped ham's {no homo}calves took a leave of absence.
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Liar of peace. ::)
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Demon possessed by Allah
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using a hook grip to lift 225
super human grip strength right there
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how can you not respect 225 pound stiff legged deadlifts.
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well say what you want but he deserves alot of respect for training consistently for so long naturally.
ifbb pros cant even train without putting a syringe in their ass on a daily basis.
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well say what you want but he deserves alot of respect for training consistently for so long naturally.
ifbb pros cant even train without putting a syringe in their ass on a daily basis.
not even close to ronnie coleman tho who has also never used any steroids he said
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As natural as semen dripping from a males anus
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born to be big
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The "purenaturalstrenght" account hasn't been banned. Why are you posting under this new account, Asif?
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Really don't understand all the hate directed at this guy.
He does not seem arrogant, conceited or a dickhead.
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Really don't understand all the hate directed at this guy.
He does not seem arrogant, conceited or a dickhead.
You know those types of assholes who keep their hands relatively clean, but you still get the vibe that they're a cock sucking little prick? Layne's that kind of prick.
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Really don't understand all the hate directed at this guy.
He does not seem arrogant, conceited or a dickhead.
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he's a lying fuckhead who uses steroids so people will look up to him as a superhuman "natural freak." what's not to love?
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And you know this how?
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You know those types of assholes who keep their hands relatively clean, but you still get the vibe that they're a cock sucking little prick? Layne's that kind of prick.
I didn't ever get that vibe from him. the stomping about the gym is idiotic IMO but he comes across ok I think.
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You know those types of assholes who keep their hands relatively clean, but you still get the vibe that they're a cock sucking little prick? Layne's that kind of prick.
his spaz outs at the gym don't help either
and his internet fights with youtube commenters etc are crazy
"'ll bet you look much more cool when you squat 600+ lbs. Oh wait... you are just another trash talking keyboard warrior on the internet. "
"I'm sorry i missed your question amidst the 200 other comments on this video. but honestly its pretty crazy you say i don't answer questions. I answer over 200 emails per day, as well as dozens of private messages on facebook, twitter, and other forums. So I'd appreciate it if you didn't make an assumption of judgement."
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And you know this how?
the same way you know he's not arrogant or conceited, and clean...
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I said he never came across that way.
I do know people who are clean and some have lifts that were close to his lifts or exceeded them.
I also know what I lift and I am clean so I know that if I took it as seriously as him and was a few years older me lifting those weights would not be impossible.
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Look at him in videos his physique is not that impressive.
It only really when he is dieted down he looks the part.
His squat and deadlift is more impressive than his physique.
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Look at him in videos his physique is not that impressive.
It only really when he is dieted down he looks the part.
His squat and deadlift is more impressive than his physique.
since when is looking like shit proof of being natural
since when is it possible to do goodmornings with 600lbs naturally
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Look at him in videos his physique is not that impressive.
It only really when he is dieted down he looks the part.
His squat and deadlift is more impressive than his physique.
i don't care about his lifts at all...
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this is a joke
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He has knee wraps on. You can take away up to 100lbs from that lift.
Is a 500lb squat that impressive from a man who has trained for probably 12 years?
Are there any other photos that show Layne looking that good/developed. It is the only one I see being brought up time and time again. Could just have been one freak shot that looks fantastic.
Him on video IRL
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I didn't ever get that vibe from him. the stomping about the gym is idiotic IMO but he comes across ok I think.
Then you haven't heard him talk yet or read his forum posts. He's the epitome of the word "prick".
Oh yes, the gym stomping and Linkin Park face... it's pretty brutal. I'm a strong fella too but I think it's a lot less impressive when you scream and make a shitload of noises. Nothing is more admirable than a dude who goes into the gym, lifts like a house but doesn't make a peep and leaves. Layne's psychotic shit is some of the most epic display of douchiness I've ever seen in my life. I couldn't believe my eyes the first time I watched one of his lifting videos.
If he admitted to juicing and stopped stomping around, he'd be much more likeable.
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anyway, you and i, being natural, are not the best people to judge these pics... can we get the hormone experts to weigh in? ???
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Why is a hormone expert the best guy to determine who is natural or not?
@ Dustin. Did not know that I only know from him what I read on bb.com years ago and what is posted here about him. The stomping about is stupid.
I am still not convinced he is juicing at all.
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anyway, you and i, being natural, are not the best people to judge these pics... can we get the hormone experts to weigh in? ???
Is this your first fucking day on Getbig? Liar Nortrom is juiced to the tits!!
Trenbologna, orals like halo, GH, it's all fair game to him. Do you think his strength and conditioning are just God given?
To his credit, sort of, I do predict he just runs lower doses during the "off season" and ramps up during his competitive season. Look at him more than 8 weeks outside of a contest and then a few weeks out. He is someone who truly does scale his drug doses up and down and cycles them, but he uses them period. And that's the important thing, because he says he DOESN'T. Pure fucking bullshit.
He'd be 20-30lbs lighter and looking DISHEVELED in "contest condition" if he were natural.
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i was being sarcastic, but thank you :D
also, ursus, we ask the hormone users because they have more experience than either you or i regarding the effects of steroids.
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i was being sarcastic, but thank you :D
also, ursus, we ask the hormone users because they have more experience than either you or i regarding the effects of steroids.
I gotcha!
That Nortrom is a liar through and through. I shake my head at him because he could just play his cards a bit better and be a LOT more respected. He's otherwise a very intelligent individual. He knows he's a rat faced, shit eating liar though. I don't know how he deals with that part... I couldn't live with myself if I were in his position.
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anyway, you and i, being natural, are not the best people to judge these pics... can we get the hormone experts to weigh in? ???
short...esters...in...ou t...addicted...to...tren ..ace...tne...npp...hgh. ..
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most likely he deals with it with narcotics or he's the sociopath type
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I really have a hard time believing Layne takes steroids. I think the gh15 camp is in serious error about this guy.
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i was being sarcastic, but thank you :D
also, ursus, we ask the hormone users because they have more experience than either you or i regarding the effects of steroids.
But surely if they do not reach the limit of Layne how would they know?
After all you said a shitty physique is not indicative of being natural?
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I really have a hard time believing Layne takes steroids. I think the gh15 camp is in serious error about this guy.
Look at the off and on season pics of him throughout the years. He's clearly on the juice.
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I really have a hard time believing Layne takes steroids. I think the gh15 camp is in serious error about this guy.
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But surely if they do not reach the limit of Layne how would they know?
After all you said a shitty physique is not indicative of being natural?
agreed.
Look at the off and on season pics of him throughout the years. He's clearly on the juice.
not sure what exactly you are pointing to, but this guys works his fuckin ass off. As Ursus says, you can't know until you've done it yourself: and sure as hell 99% of people out there don't have the work ethic and access to muscletech products this guy does.
Its possible, for example, that incremental differences between someone who NEVER falters or their diet and NEVER misses a workout really add up over the years. There is no way to know what you are capable of unless you try doing the same thing, if you can do so without failing.
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agreed.
not sure what exactly you are pointing to, but this guys works his fuckin ass off. As Ursus says, you can't know until you've done it yourself: and sure as hell 99% of people out there don't have the work ethic and access to muscletech products this guy does.
Its possible, for example, that incremental differences between someone who NEVER falters or their diet and NEVER misses a workout really add up over the years. There is no way to know what you are capable of unless you try doing the same thing, if you can do so without failing.
anything is possible,,but looking at offseason or powerlifting pics he does not look like his bbing look,,so say he takes 12-16 wks to get that look its how he fill's in the blanks that get him there.could it be done clean by him?
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anything is possible,,but looking at offseason or powerlifting pics he does not look like his bbing look,,so say he takes 12-16 wks to get that look its how he fill's in the blanks that get him there.could it be done clean by him?
pictures can be deceiving though, and you can look 'smaller' in offseason because your muscles are not as defined and don't 'pop' like they do when you are conditioned. I'm not sure how long he diets but he's known for very long diets (1 lb per week)
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his genetics are far too shit to be that big at that low bodyfat.
look at his joints, and his bone size - that is the ultimate deciding factor of how large a natural bodybody will get. it doesn't matter how high someone's natural testosterone levels are, nor their growth hormone levels, people will never escape their genetics without manipulating their genetics (i.e. injecting hormones).
someone with such a small pathetic frame isn't going to get 18 inch arms at 5% naturally, with completely full muscle bellies. hell, pros juiced to the gills had trouble doing that in the 1970s. anyone really think a natural is going to come into a show dry as hell, weighing 210 @ 5'10 and 5% bodyfat with completely full muscle bellies? not happening, especially with his shit genetics.
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agreed.
not sure what exactly you are pointing to, but this guys works his fuckin ass off. As Ursus says, you can't know until you've done it yourself: and sure as hell 99% of people out there don't have the work ethic and access to muscletech products this guy does.
Its possible, for example, that incremental differences between someone who NEVER falters or their diet and NEVER misses a workout really add up over the years. There is no way to know what you are capable of unless you try doing the same thing, if you can do so without failing.
please shut the fuck up about hard work and dedication
almost everyone on this board is dedicated enough to get as big as they can naturally, i sincerely hope this helps
this line of reasoning is absolute, unfounded bullshit which is contradicted by evidence at every turn, and has been used for centuries in all aspects of life by ignorant, unhappy people who don't have the privilege of an education or, in many cases, a working brain
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please shut the fuck up about hard work and dedication
almost everyone on this board is dedicated enough to get as big as they can naturally, i sincerely hope this helps
And you know this how? Its hard to know over the time scales im talking about, 10+ years of training and good nutrition.
Do you think he's incredibly big for a natural, or do you take issue with how well he holds his condition? I think most people have a harder time with the latter, which again takes extreme dedication to achieve. Not enough people get in that type of condition to really separate whats possible and impossible, JMO.
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this line of reasoning is absolute, unfounded bullshit which is contradicted by evidence at every turn, and has been used for centuries in all aspects of life by ignorant, unhappy people who don't have the privilege of an education or, in many cases, a working brain
the complete opposite of this is pessimism, I think that's something far too common.
Having said all of the above, I'm fully willing to admit I could be full of shit here LOL
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And you know this how?
I don't, I'm just putting my view out there. :D
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the gh15 nut huggers and the guy himself have no idea. they never trained for any decent amount of time with success WITHOUT gear, so they tar everyone else who achieves.
there are absolutely no tell tale signs that layne juices...the myth that u cant get lean without gear is one propogated by gh15 himself.
people have been mega lean since the dawn of time..some can, some cant.
the odd person responds well to training and can get lean.
purely and simply, its genetics.
the problem is that most dont have these genetics so we have a ground swell of nay sayers ....its really just so they can feel good about their own inadequacies.
lets face it, if layne juiced, then he'd be holding more mass, stronger, and you'd see the odd sign such as gyno or acne or water bloat.
you dont see any of that...no extreme size, nothing really overly strong other than for a genetically gifted person, no obvious water retention..even in off season he looks pretty average.
i think he's giving a lesson to the haters..
look at some of the worlds top class sprinters..urine and blood tested dozens of times a year in and out of comp and they weigh a buck fifty but are ripped and look very muscular and are pretty strong.
There are literally thousands of wanna bes that take gear and still cant run as fast...or get as lean.
if u think that sprinting is still the domain of drug users, you'd be very wrong. NCAA im not so confident, but world stage, pretty clean.
so to the gh15 camp, explain that? theres loads mor examples. too many to list and too many to ignore. The gh15 camp just ignores it and makes ridiculous claims without basis or supporting evidence.
if it was a moderated debate then they'd be out with their tails between their legs, but unfortunately the mob rules on GB. in the real world we have intelligent people that can assess argument and determine what good evidence is and isnt, then make a decision.
its not a bunch of morons justifying their own existence and all slapping each other on the back saying "yeah, right on!"....and drowning out the facts.
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his genetics are far too shit to be that big at that low bodyfat.
look at his joints, and his bone size - that is the ultimate deciding factor of how large a natural bodybody will get. it doesn't matter how high someone's natural testosterone levels are, nor their growth hormone levels, people will never escape their genetics without manipulating their genetics (i.e. injecting hormones).
someone with such a small pathetic frame isn't going to get 18 inch arms at 5% naturally, with completely full muscle bellies. hell, pros juiced to the gills had trouble doing that in the 1970s. anyone really think a natural is going to come into a show dry as hell, weighing 210 @ 5'10 and 5% bodyfat with completely full muscle bellies? not happening, especially with his shit genetics.
rofl. u can tell by looking at his joints and bone size?- u do realise that the variation between humans is in mm dont you?...and that variation is not a one to one relationship to deciding muscle mass potential?.
also, hormones dont manipulate genetics.. nothing does, unless u can do it in vitro or prior to...
and you can also tell that he has shit genetics?- how so?..what exactly is the DNA profile?- please point out which combination of arrangement puts him into this "shit genetics" class. As far as im aware, not even the experts have a category for "shit genetics". Please enlighten us all as your expertise appears impressive. What with all your logic and explanation. Educate us all.
(fuck stick..stand in line at the back of the GH15 train).
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please shut the fuck up about hard work and dedication
almost everyone on this board is dedicated enough to get as big as they can naturally, i sincerely hope this helps
this line of reasoning is absolute, unfounded bullshit which is contradicted by evidence at every turn, and has been used for centuries in all aspects of life by ignorant, unhappy people who don't have the privilege of an education or, in many cases, a working brain
actually you are wrong. contradictory evidence can only occur if you have the same set of variables under the same conditions. Which we dont. We have a mish mash of anecdotes from hormone abusers and natural trainers. There is plenty of scientific studies that support that muscle growth does occur naturally, but there is nothing at all about how far it can go.. absolutely nothing at all.
all we have is a bunch of self confessed experts saying a load of crap based on their inability to consider multiple variables and influencers yet they come up with a whole range of "conclusions"..and try to pass them off as fact.
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anyway, you and i, being natural, are not the best people to judge these pics... can we get the hormone experts to weigh in? ???
you would be pulling teeth to look like that on juice alone unless had a1 genetics That u cant do on 1 gram of gear maybe tren if yoru luck at his height especially.
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Terrific natural athlete.
He competes for the "Best Natty Ever" award with Skip LieCour and Branch Warren....
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rofl. u can tell by looking at his joints and bone size?- u do realise that the variation between humans is in mm dont you?...and that variation is not a one to one relationship to deciding muscle mass potential?.
also, hormones dont manipulate genetics.. nothing does, unless u can do it in vitro or prior to...
and you can also tell that he has shit genetics?- how so?..what exactly is the DNA profile?- please point out which combination of arrangement puts him into this "shit genetics" class. As far as im aware, not even the experts have a category for "shit genetics". Please enlighten us all as your expertise appears impressive. What with all your logic and explanation. Educate us all.
(fuck stick..stand in line at the back of the GH15 train).
Pretty sure the excess testosterone from steroids will flip a few switches in your genetic profile. That as well as that excess testosterone will forever enhance every muscle cell, enlarging the mitochondria past its normal natural size and etc.
I always wondered, Layne makes such a huge deal that he is natural, constantly throws bitchfits about being tested dozens of times and so on yet there is one test that will absolutely prove he is natural. All Layne has to do is agree to have a part of a muscle cut out for examination. If he is natural that would be easy to prove that way.
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Pretty sure the excess testosterone from steroids will flip a few switches in your genetic profile. That as well as that excess testosterone will forever enhance every muscle cell, enlarging the mitochondria past its normal natural size and etc.
I always wondered, Layne makes such a huge deal that he is natural, constantly throws bitchfits about being tested dozens of times and so on yet there is one test that will absolutely prove he is natural. All Layne has to do is agree to have a part of a muscle cut out for examination. If he is natural that would be easy to prove that way.
As much as I want to see that guy rat get exposed for the halo abusing shit he is, having a biopsy to prove a point is stupid.
Even if I had nothing to hide as a bodybuilder, I would never get it done. What is the point? To get scars for a clean conscience? Fuck that. In this day and age, no one gives a fuck about what the general masses have to say about them. They either melt down with non sequitars or hide their skeletons.
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I understand why Layne would deny steroid use (he wants to make a couple of bucks from his physque). But what sickens me is that he fucking lies, lies and lies. Spewing the same old rhetoric......HARD WORK.........DEDICATION. .......DIET. I know behind that poker face he is laughing his ass off at you fools who believe every word he says because he has a 'PhD' and would never tell a lie. I bet when he goes home everyday and sits down, he thinks to himself "lmao this shit is too fucking easy. Do these guys actually think I would touch those junk supplements? lololol"
No matter how long you lift or eat right, you will NEVER look like this unless you inject the hormona
Maybe Layne thinks he is doing the right thing by differentiating himself from the gh and slin abusing ifbb pro bodybuilders. Slin and gh abuse is destroying the appeal of pro bb'ers to the general public so maybe Layne thinks he is doing bodybuilding in general a favor by winning the appeal and attention back by pretending to be natural.
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layne always struck me as an angry nerd who is juicing up to deal with his childhood traumas of being bullied and ridiculed constantly
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layne always struck me as an angry nerd who is juicing up to deal with his childhood traumas of being bullied and ridiculed constantly
lol remember high school gyms? All the kids screaming while curling or benching with horrible form :o
sounds just like him stomping around and screaming before he lifts ;D
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lol remember high school gyms? All the kids screaming while curling or benching with horrible form :o
sounds just like him stomping around and screaming before he lifts ;D
you'd think he just broke a world record the way he acts
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since when is looking like shit proof of being natural
since when is it possible to do goodmornings with 600lbs naturally
How does he prove he is natural then
Some of you guys are so sad... Oh he's natural when you say so
The formula goes like this
Bigger than loser = loser accusation of drugs
Stronger than loser = loser accusation of drugs
Pitiful
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actually you are wrong. contradictory evidence can only occur if you have the same set of variables under the same conditions. Which we dont. We have a mish mash of anecdotes from hormone abusers and natural trainers. There is plenty of scientific studies that support that muscle growth does occur naturally, but there is nothing at all about how far it can go.. absolutely nothing at all.
there has never been and never will be "the same set of variables under the same conditions" in any experiment, sorry.
all we have is a bunch of self confessed experts saying a load of crap based on their inability to consider multiple variables and influencers yet they come up with a whole range of "conclusions"..and try to pass them off as fact.
like you who say there is "no evidence of hormone use" lmao... when there are COUNTLESS HORMONE USERS WHO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE GUY. could it be that he is the natural wonder and scores of gym rats running a gram of juice look practically no different? sure. is it the conclusion any sane person would draw? ???
like it or not, anecdotal evidence is all we have to go on. we all make conclusions on the available evidence, however shoddy it may be. please tell me what "good evidence" you base your conclusions on... i'll be waiting.
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How does he prove he is natural then
Some of you guys are so sad... Oh he's natural when you say so
The formula goes like this
Bigger than loser = loser accusation of drugs
Stronger than loser = loser accusation of drugs
Pitiful
taking drugs makes you less of a loser of course
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i don't care about his lifts at all...
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this is a joke
this is trenbolona in its glory ,, this is the exact physiqe trenbolona creates ,,that filt im telling you fellas ,, this is to be writen in the legend of bodybuild about this filt about the faildo filt and all the kyoshoo filts,, it is embaresing ,, they think you are idiots but not only that...they thikn you are idiots and tease you about it!
gh15 approved
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anyway, you and i, being natural, are not the best people to judge these pics... can we get the hormone experts to weigh in? ???
you dont need be hormone expert,, it is enough to be my pupil for 3 hours to know this fella IS ADDICTED TO SHORT ESTERS MAINLY TRENBOLONA ACE,, this physiqe is made out of trenbolona ace when he get it out of the blood he look like balonie with it he lok like xmass balonie
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most likely he deals with it with narcotics or he's the sociopath type
sociopath 100%
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the gh15 nut huggers and the guy himself have no idea. they never trained for any decent amount of time with success WITHOUT gear, so they tar everyone else who achieves.
there are absolutely no tell tale signs that layne juices...the myth that u cant get lean without gear is one propogated by gh15 himself.
people have been mega lean since the dawn of time..some can, some cant.
the odd person responds well to training and can get lean.
purely and simply, its genetics.
the problem is that most dont have these genetics so we have a ground swell of nay sayers ....its really just so they can feel good about their own inadequacies.
lets face it, if layne juiced, then he'd be holding more mass, stronger, and you'd see the odd sign such as gyno or acne or water bloat.
you dont see any of that...no extreme size, nothing really overly strong other than for a genetically gifted person, no obvious water retention..even in off season he looks pretty average.
i think he's giving a lesson to the haters..
look at some of the worlds top class sprinters..urine and blood tested dozens of times a year in and out of comp and they weigh a buck fifty but are ripped and look very muscular and are pretty strong.
There are literally thousands of wanna bes that take gear and still cant run as fast...or get as lean.
if u think that sprinting is still the domain of drug users, you'd be very wrong. NCAA im not so confident, but world stage, pretty clean.
so to the gh15 camp, explain that? theres loads mor examples. too many to list and too many to ignore. The gh15 camp just ignores it and makes ridiculous claims without basis or supporting evidence.
if it was a moderated debate then they'd be out with their tails between their legs, but unfortunately the mob rules on GB. in the real world we have intelligent people that can assess argument and determine what good evidence is and isnt, then make a decision.
its not a bunch of morons justifying their own existence and all slapping each other on the back saying "yeah, right on!"....and drowning out the facts.
you friend are a deep level retard,, your knowledge about bodybuild is close to zero and i truly mean it ,, both natural and hormonized,,even in the natural which doesnt exisist your knowledge is zero ,, you just talk balonie all the time its embarsing for you to be honest,,
the fella woudnt even be 175lb natural NOT EVEN 175 LB! ON STAGE NATURALY ,,LAY NORTOM WOULD BE 170 LB ON STAGE NATURALY AND HIS BODYFAT WOULD BE 7% OVER ALL IF TRULY NATURAL,,read the numbers agains that i just wrote above
1 7 0 7 % 5'11- 6 feet naturaly ,, THIS IS WHAT LAY NORTOM WOULO TRULY BE ON STAGE NATURALY!
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People with shit genetics ALWAYS accuse others of juicing because they can do something that they can't.
Some people can sing in a way that i never can no matter how much I tried. Does not mean they are juicing or cheating.
The variation between humans is enormous in terms of height, weight, skin colour, strength, size etc. When someone with a natural predisposition to being strong, with a strong work ethic and years of dedication of course they will shit on the average angry getbigger.
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People with shit genetics ALWAYS accuse others of juicing because they can do something that they can't.
Some people can sing in a way that i never can no matter how much I tried. Does not mean they are juicing or cheating.
The variation between humans is enormous in terms of height, weight, skin colour, strength, size etc. When someone with a natural predisposition to being strong, with a strong work ethic and years of dedication of course they will shit on the average angry getbigger.
ok lay nortom has supreme genetic now i understand it all
thanks
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He has better genetics than you anyway.
He only needs to be 10% bigger or 10% stronger than a guy with decent genetics for people to meltdown.
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He has better genetics than you anyway.
He only needs to be 10% bigger or 10% stronger than a guy with decent genetics for people to meltdown.
I guess you are right. Makes you wonder how big and cut he would get if he used some roids and hgh
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rofl. u can tell by looking at his joints and bone size?- u do realise that the variation between humans is in mm dont you?...and that variation is not a one to one relationship to deciding muscle mass potential?.
also, hormones dont manipulate genetics.. nothing does, unless u can do it in vitro or prior to...
and you can also tell that he has shit genetics?- how so?..what exactly is the DNA profile?- please point out which combination of arrangement puts him into this "shit genetics" class. As far as im aware, not even the experts have a category for "shit genetics". Please enlighten us all as your expertise appears impressive. What with all your logic and explanation. Educate us all.
(fuck stick..stand in line at the back of the GH15 train).
actually, bone size and frame is the sole and only determinant of the maximum size a person can achieve, multiple books have been written on this subject but you are incredibly stupid and also feel the need to argue out of ignorance, probably because you are such an imbecile.
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Hopefully we never find out :)
Hold on a minute my wrists are barely 7" though arms are nearly 20"
Bone size means nothing.
Also what weight does Layne compete at?
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Hopefully we never find out :)
Hold on a minute my wrists are barely 7" though arms are nearly 20"
Bone size means nothing.
Also what weight does Layne compete at?
because you are a fat moron who doesn't understand if you cut down to 5% bodyfat your fat'ceps will be 15 inches. or you are on juice, either way, you are really dumb to make that post.
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I have abs.
Am I ripped? Nope. Are my arms fat? No Siree.
Some people are 2 feet taler than me without ever doing a thing in their life. Genetic variance is enormous!
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how many times has Layne been tested? and has it been WADA testing or some other?
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layne always struck me as an angry nerd who is juicing up to deal with his childhood traumas of being bullied and ridiculed constantly
Totally agree - he was born a punching bag and is only stressing the nerves of bullies worldwide.
Layne,
due punishment will follow - no steroidsupplement, no baseball cap, no bored girlfriend aka fit-beard and no gym spasms can save you.
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agreed.
not sure what exactly you are pointing to, but this guys works his fuckin ass off. As Ursus says, you can't know until you've done it yourself: and sure as hell 99% of people out there don't have the work ethic and access to muscletech products this guy does.
Its possible, for example, that incremental differences between someone who NEVER falters or their diet and NEVER misses a workout really add up over the years. There is no way to know what you are capable of unless you try doing the same thing, if you can do so without failing.
you're right man, of course! if you just keep working out and training you will just keep getting bigger, forever!
it's not that naturals hit a wall that they can never surpass, and that's why they go on the juice, it's just because they are impatient. but as a natural you can keep gaining forever and with enough time and dedication you can eventually get as big as ronnie coleman circa 2001!
this is not sarcasm at all nor am i mocking you, because you are a smart and intelligent person, who understands physiology and bodybuilding very well.
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Totally agree - he was born a punching bag and is only stressing the nerves of bullies worldwide.
Layne,
due punishment will follow - no steroidsupplement, no baseball cap, no bored girlfriend aka fit-beard and no gym spasms can save you.
I'd love to bully him, see if all his training helped strengthen his psyche
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He has knee wraps on. You can take away up to 100lbs from that lift.
Is a 500lb squat that impressive from a man who has trained for probably 12 years?
Are there any other photos that show Layne looking that good/developed. It is the only one I see being brought up time and time again. Could just have been one freak shot that looks fantastic.
Him on video IRL
knee wraps don't give you 100lb increase. I have had people tell me chalk on deadlift increases your deadlift 100 lbs which is utter bullshit
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I said up to 100lbs.
I know someone who added 100lbs using them. I seen it with my own eyes.
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agreed.
not sure what exactly you are pointing to, but this guys works his fuckin ass off. As Ursus says, you can't know until you've done it yourself: and sure as hell 99% of people out there don't have the work ethic and access to muscletech products this guy does.
Its possible, for example, that incremental differences between someone who NEVER falters or their diet and NEVER misses a workout really add up over the years. There is no way to know what you are capable of unless you try doing the same thing, if you can do so without failing.
Bullshit.
you reach you limit after a few years of serious training, you will be as big as you are going to be...then you just kind of get muscle maturity as the years go by, but you don't really keep growing forever. Age has a lot to do with it too...once you hit your mid 30s, you're pretty much done growing as a man
You have guys that bulk way up, and cut way down...but they are really just adding and subtracting bodyfat...they are the size they are. I did it for years...then when I got on the gear, I made BIG changes in my physique for the first time in 15 years.
I'm now up to 240 and still 8-9%... I look fucking retarded. No way in hell I could ever do this naturally
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I said up to 100lbs.
I know someone who added 100lbs using them. I seen it with my own eyes.
He ain't in your league, no need to protect him.
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I am actually being very serious.
He squatted about 280 for a few shakes reps. Put on some knee wraps and done 400lbs.
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Bullshit.
you reach you limit after a few years of serious training, you will be as big as you are going to be...then you just kind of get muscle maturity as the years go by, but you don't really keep growing forever. Age has a lot to do with it too...once you hit your mid 30s, you're pretty much done growing as a man
You have guys that bulk way up, and cut way down...but they are really just adding and subtracting bodyfat...they are the size they are. I did it for years...then when I got on the gear, I made BIG changes in my physique for the first time in 15 years.
I'm now up to 240 and still 8-9%... I look fucking retarded. No way in hell I could ever do this naturally
what height are you? sounds beastly
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He squatted about 280 for a few shakes reps. Put on some knee wraps and done 400lbs.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
no wonder his quad development is so shit
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what height are you? sounds beastly
I'm 5'11" and that's me in my Avatar @ 230..I have tons of pics floating around, if you're implicating I'm full of shit
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I'm 5'11" and that's me in my Avatar...I have tons of pics floating around, if you're implicating I'm full of shit
nonono friend
i know you are legit
gh15 said you could be a good pro
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It proves my point though doesn't it?
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I won't comment on Layne Norton, but disco_stu you're an absolute retard if you believe world class sprinters don't juice. You really think the likes of Yohan Blake, Carmelita Jeter, Asafa Powell, and Walter Dix don't use PED's? Don't speak on a sport you have absolute zero knowledge on. Please try to disprove me on whether the following use or not:
(http://ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/walterdix_l.jpg)
(http://images.supersport.com/Carmelita-Jeter-Inaction-110828G300.jpg)
Track and field is riddled with drugs, anyone who says otherwise is beyond ignorant, and must have had their head in the sand for the last 15 years
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track and field athletes are natural they just get the real zma (snac system)
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nonono friend
i know you are legit
gh15 said you could be a good pro
Gotcha...don't mean to jump , but you know how it is around here.
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Gotcha...don't mean to jump , but you know how it is around here.
5'11" = ideal bodybuilding height
one more question, if you could do it all over again
at what age would you have started using?
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Who has the best pharmacist is probably more important in track and field now than who has the best coach!
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I won't comment on Layne Norton, but disco_stu you're an absolute retard if you believe world class sprinters don't juice. You really think the likes of Yohan Blake, Carmelita Jeter, Asafa Powell, and Walter Dix don't use PED's? Don't speak on a sport you have absolute zero knowledge on. Please try to disprove me on whether the following use or not:
(http://ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/walterdix_l.jpg)
(http://images.supersport.com/Carmelita-Jeter-Inaction-110828G300.jpg)
ive been following the sport since the late 70s. the influence of drugs over the period of 1900s to now has been pretty obvious, with historical proof in retrospect supporting the accusations and suspicions. withuot getting into a history and correlation lecture, the sport is cleaner than ever now. The only eye brow raisers these days come mostly from high profile american athletes and from athletes at early season, low profile meets.
Jeter, in many opinion, has been a cheat in the past. hasnt been caught. Her achievements at late age after being an also ran are amongst the real "doubtfuls" in recent years. Dix isnt under suspicion at all.
the point is that even if the athletes used gear, the amount and efficacy would be very restricted..retro testing stores the blood for years so they can be caught long after the fact.
relating that to this debate and u have a bunch of elite athletes who are capable of achieving super performance and conditioning, with little or no drugs.
Ignoring the drugs for now, there is still a group of elites who for whatever reasoncan run alot faster than the rest of us. Its not that they juice or cheat. They just are gifted.
every one of us wouldve met someone who was brilliant at something during their life...maths, science, memory, BB, track..whatever.
if i didnt know that brain drugs werent real then i would think that the one person i met who truly had a photographic memory was "on something"...wouldnt i?
theres loads of evidence to suggest that some people are freaks.
the rest of the evidence is the mish mash of crappy anecdotes that is difficult or impossible to filter.
flame and argue away. cant be bothered with further backing the logic here and explaining the rationale.
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I won't comment on Layne Norton, but disco_stu you're an absolute retard if you believe world class sprinters don't juice. You really think the likes of Yohan Blake, Carmelita Jeter, Asafa Powell, and Walter Dix don't use PED's? Don't speak on a sport you have absolute zero knowledge on. Please try to disprove me on whether the following use or not:
(http://ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/walterdix_l.jpg)
(http://images.supersport.com/Carmelita-Jeter-Inaction-110828G300.jpg)
competed for 25 years as amateur and pro at state and national levels. graduated sports science in 1993 (bachelors degree). worked for years with SA sports institute and elite athletes. finished up and did my masters in engineering in the late 1990s.
funny how you make a ridiculous claim like i know nothing about it without ANY evidence that is the case.
i know this stuff inside out i assure you. know all the tricks and all the history. and im no dumb ass either.
so tired of dealing with GB morons. its like a never ending struggle with the angry, ignored, uneducated mob with pitchforks trying to drown the witch.
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how come layne has 200 deadlift and goodmorning videos up but no bench press videos
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how come layne has 200 deadlift and goodmorning videos up but no bench press videos
370 here
think he did more pre pec tear.
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how come layne has 200 deadlift and goodmorning videos up but no bench press videos
Tore his pec.
It was never as impressive relatively. Long arms. Probably explains why his DL is so good.
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if he isn't natural, he is the most convincing liar in the industry. He isn't really that big
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if he isn't natural, he is the most convincing liar in the industry. He isn't really that big
I don't think he's convincing at all. You can look at him and just feel he is meant to be a volley ball player or something
that guy doing goodmornings with 600+ lbs is defying the laws of the universe
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competed for 25 years as amateur and pro at state and national levels. graduated sports science in 1993 (bachelors degree). worked for years with SA sports institute and elite athletes. finished up and did my masters in engineering in the late 1990s.
funny how you make a ridiculous claim like i know nothing about it without ANY evidence that is the case.
i know this stuff inside out i assure you. know all the tricks and all the history. and im no dumb ass either.
so tired of dealing with GB morons. its like a never ending struggle with the angry, ignored, uneducated mob with pitchforks trying to drown the witch.
no you do not!,, you are what i call a wanna be,, you have no idea about the hormone world,, and no idea absolitly no idea of what it takes to get anywhere in bodybuild,,ill be highly surprize if you ever step on stage,, and IF you did then i would seriously consider bodybuild as the dumbest fellas on earth which we are not,,
bodybuild is ALL in the drugs the quality of the drugs and the consistancy in this drug intake
the end!
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gh15 = all dictionary
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not only that sports re the dirtiest right now comparing to any years,, NOW DAY EVERY SINGLE ATHLETE IN ADVANCE LEVEL IS ON HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,, every single one! in advnce levels before it wsnt this way ,, the sports now day are a lot a lot deeper into hormones and no one care anymore because NO ONE can stop it,, this is the problem ...you try to stop it you hav ethe nfl on your head and many other powers in the same level as americano nfl and it is a lot A LOT of power,, americanos like their sports and want it to stay top no one will sacrifice being clean or natural trust me on that,, it is now in all time high !
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You can still be big and strong nattie.
You will never be the biggest or strongest.
However you can also be a LOT bigger and stronger than many who do take drugs.
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gh15 = all dictionary
gh 15 means 15iu HGH a day which is where the magic starts happening
you will start developing ,,,,,freakish 3dimensionality ,,,,protruding thru the shirt ,,,with sheer freakishness in 6 weeks not 6 months fella,,,,,
that is you also have to eat,,,lol,,, nonono not chiknbrokli fella, i mean eat anything,,,,,not that dantesons balonie nonono fella,,,of course not drink canola oil its law of nature;;;lol
seriously fella get it in your head bodybuild = hormones!!!! no hormones = no bodybuild!!!!!!!!!
the key is consistent high quality HGH 15iu or more a day,,,,lol nonono ,,,not only AAS,,,fella who do only aas megadose never look 3d freakishly, they look like bloofy mess fella,,,,,, get it in your fuking head!!!!
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gh15 = all dictionary
nah friend,, its jsut the damn fucking truth ,, that all it is ...
you se fellas with best genetic ....either 160lb of lean 7-8% or big fellas in the 15-20% zone....thats whre genetic takes you,,you have the combo of both? = hormones
fucking italian fella put eveyrhting they hav ein bodybuild ending up nto even natural !! after a cycle or 2 of halodrol and other balonie ending 165lb on stage not even 6% over all,, dont come to me and tell me balonie,, those are serious fellas who put everything they can in bodybuild didnt even work alwys home or in gymnasium alwyas eat for years! could get to 165lb 6% ....5'10! lol comon now who are you fellas try to fool
all dsay logn eating from meal to meal and coudnt even crack 170 lb on stage and forget about 4% not even 6%!!
thats so call natural for you ...but even they! are not natural !!
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not only that sports re the dirtiest right now comparing to any years,, NOW DAY EVERY SINGLE ATHLETE IN ADVANCE LEVEL IS ON HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,, every single one! in advnce levels before it wsnt this way ,, the sports now day are a lot a lot deeper into hormones and no one care anymore because NO ONE can stop it,, this is the problem ...you try to stop it you hav ethe nfl on your head and many other powers in the same level as americano nfl and it is a lot A LOT of power,, americanos like their sports and want it to stay top no one will sacrifice being clean or natural trust me on that,, it is now in all time high !
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I highly doubt more than 5 NBA players total are on either hgh or aas
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You can still be big and strong nattie.
You will never be the biggest or strongest.
However you can also be a LOT bigger and stronger than many who do take drugs.
yes,, big strong and .....fat!
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yes,, big strong and .....fat!
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then cut down and be small and weak again
never ending cycle of hard work and dedication
such is the life of a natural bodybuilding
in the end they will receive a great blessing
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I would rather be a strong and big 260 12-15% than a dieted down 215 6% on stage.
Not everyone wants to be on stage and natties lose more muscle than pros dieted down from what I see.
Abs = not fat!
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gh 15 means 15iu HGH a day which is where the magic starts happening
you will start developing ,,,,,freakish 3dimensionality ,,,,protruding thru the shirt ,,,with sheer freakishness in 6 weeks not 6 months fella,,,,,
that is you also have to eat,,,lol,,, nonono not chiknbrokli fella, i mean eat anything,,,,,not that dantesons balonie nonono fella,,,of course not drink canola oil its law of nature;;;lol
seriously fella get it in your head bodybuild = hormones!!!! no hormones = no bodybuild!!!!!!!!!
the key is consistent high quality HGH 15iu or more a day,,,,lol nonono ,,,not only AAS,,,fella who do only aas megadose never look 3d freakishly, they look like bloofy mess fella,,,,,, get it in your fuking head!!!!
can be sone with 8 iu too...if! legit gh,, what gh15 give when say 15 iu is the magic number to get into the PROS! circa 2000
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then cut down and be small and weak again
never ending cycle of hard work and dedication
such is the life of a natural bodybuilding
in the end they will receive a great blessing
This used to describe me. What a fucking waste of suffering
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if he isn't natural, he is the most convincing liar in the industry. He isn't really that big
hes a lot larger then you would think he hits the stage at 210 at 5'11 that would make him 240 or so off season lean. That would give him 10 more lbs of muscle then you I think he just juiced hard before a show or something I agree he looks like any other queer at the gym many videos and pix.
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I would rather be a strong and big 260 12-15% than a dieted down 215 6% on stage.
Not everyone wants to be on stage and natties lose more muscle than pros dieted down from what I see.
Abs = not fat!
what are you saying this is natural are you really saying it
really really really
are you saying that
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He was only 210 in his PLing meet.
Also, weight is just a number. Some peopel might be 180 but look 200. Others are 200 look 180 etc
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I'll agree that the sport is cleaner now then it has ever been in the past 3 decades, but it doesn't mean that the elite athletes aren't hiding something. I think that distance runners abuse much more then sprinters do nowadays, using EPO with smaller doses of HGH along with test. It's especially easy to get it out of the athletes system before testing. I'm inclined to think these athletes with almost unlimited resources are one step ahead of the IAAF at all times.
100% agree.
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what are you saying this is natural are you really saying it
really really really
are you saying that
Yep. Nice angle and lighting. See the difference it can make.
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I do think he is natural much of the time but then hits it hard in spurts. But how is he the same weight off season in a power meet as he is on stage come. Fucking loser trash ripping off kid. I could sleep easier at night selling crack then doing what hes doing.
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Yep. Nice angle and lighting. See the difference it can make.
seems legit, god given genetics :-\
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I highly doubt more than 5 NBA players total are on either hgh or aas
nba are on hormones mainly for duration ,, which hormones exactly depend on team doctor and individual player need,,you do not i repat you do not get 10 milion dolar a year to play natural ,, dont you see fellas dont get sick no more,, they have bunch of higher elevated igf in body
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I would rather be a strong and big 260 12-15% than a dieted down 215 6% on stage.
Not everyone wants to be on stage and natties lose more muscle than pros dieted down from what I see.
Abs = not fat!
no always,, jason jenovia has line seperate his abs and he is fat...it is diff from indidual to individual but i can garentee you on stage you are nothing ursus absolitly NOTHING,,you wil fade away ,, and if you are on hormones with i never looked to deep enough ...then i dont know what to tell you ,, but generaly speaking you would fade on stage with out hormones garenteed
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I highly doubt more than 5 NBA players total are on either hgh or aas
Completely delusional, when the leagues MVP (Derrick Rose) is coming out and saying the NBA has a massive PED problem and the leagues leading scorer (Kevin Durant) is saying that he wants to achieve his potential clean unlike the majority of others and literally has to fight off trainers trying to get him on HGH then you dont think theres a problem?Google it, all the info is there.
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nba are on hormones mainly for duration ,, which hormones exactly depend on team doctor and individual player need,,you do not i repat you do not get 10 milion dolar a year to play natural ,, dont you see fellas dont get sick no more,, they have bunch of higher elevated igf in body
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gh15, do you have any inside knowledge of this or are you just saying this based on your knowledge of hormones?
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he is a very crafty cheat he walks around at 210-220 smaller then me then all the sudden losses 20lbs of fat and gains 20lbs of muscle. In some of his best bodybuilding shows he carry close to the same lean bodymass ass some mr olympias. Granted he dont look near as good. 5'10 210 on stage is not just steroids its an abusive amount not just a few superdrols.
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hes a lot larger then you would think he hits the stage at 210 at 5'11 that would make him 240 or so off season lean. That would give him 10 more lbs of muscle then you I think he just juiced hard before a show or something I agree he looks like any other queer at the gym many videos and pix.
he is very big fella,, he is close to 200lb 4% ,, its huge,, fells here dont knwo what they talk about,, well a small number of them ,, they just have no clue,, la notrom has horrid shape and he is filt liar but he is very bigi fella
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I highly doubt more than 5 NBA players total are on either hgh or aas
every single last person in the nba is on hgh, every single person in professional sports, especially contact sports where their bodies get destroyed on a daily basis, is on pharm grade gh. they have team doctors especially for handing out Gh scripts and giving them peds, that's their only purpose.
even at the college level they are all on peds. gh can't be tested for, and you can beat a drug test 3 days or less after using short esters. they all use it
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I do think he is natural much of the time but then hits it hard in spurts. But how is he the same weight off season in a power meet as he is on stage come. Fucking loser trash ripping off kid. I could sleep easier at night selling crack then doing what hes doing.
natural most of the time lol
what the fuck is natural most of the time,, ONE TIME YOU TOUCH HORMONES AND YOU ARE DONE BEING NATURAL ,, YOU CAN ONLY BE CLEAN ,, and none of them are clean they are all addict,, you dont even enter a gymnasium with out hormones in your system ,, your nervse system and brain wil not let you go to the gymnaisum you wi be highly depressed very fast and go from 5 time to 3 time to 2 time to 2 time sweaty and doing nothing almost to 1 time every 2 week to retiring from bodybuild and going into covering yourself with tatoos,,
friends who do you thikn you are talking to here? lol you make me laugh
they are all addicts of the highest kinds they have their fridge with 10 kits in any given time and when they hav e10 kits they already think about the next 3 ....
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the dumb tattoos in bodybuilding epidemic explained ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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gh15, do you have any inside knowledge of this or are you just saying this based on your knowledge of hormones?
inside knowlegde,, i can bring most americano leages into big problems if wanted,, i just dotn want as i said im for hormones to be completely none controlled,,
every single athelte is on them ,, and no one will do anything about it because it is epademic,, if you arest one you wil have to arest 1000s
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I wish we could provoke liar on here but he knows better. He reads this thats how them kinda people operate he prolly googles his name every 3 hours.
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I wish we could provoke liar on here but he knows better. He reads this that how them kinda people operate he prolly googles his name ever 3 hours.
he's such a bizarre guy, i mean read this shit and try to understand what he means
(http://i.imgur.com/9utbX.png)
he probably threw a fit at the guy asking if has ADHD then deleted his own comment trying to maintain his clean image
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bio layne lol we need to keep that one lol in laynes defense I can only bench around 375 also lol
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the thing few fellas her dotn get is....that lay nortom is a big user or homornes ,, he is not someone who just touch little haldrol lol he is big long time user of hormones,, he has extreme mind and head problems from abuse of specific hormones,, he is practicaly also lieing about it and walk aroudn lieing do criminal activity and try to live like saint with phds etc...the fellas is the worst example of the years 2000 when it comes to product of generation nothingess and bodybuild since he UNLIKE heris is young....he built himself base on the 2000 explosion of internet hormone supply
he is very very bad fella ,, i mean it,,thee is one thing to shut up ...but felas like ley nortom are the fellas who fuck up fellas like matt c ....and the result...is ....matt c which as you can see didnt get anywhere in bodybuild or powerlift...still took hormones no mater what he tought it was and you jsut see the result of what lay nortom did to 1000s of youngsters ,, he is criminal
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he's such a bizarre guy, i mean read this shit and try to understand what he means
(http://i.imgur.com/9utbX.png)
he probably threw a fit at the guy asking if has ADHD then deleted his own comment trying to maintain his clean image
means what he says that he gets tons of YT comments and that he will be glad to answer all questions via email?
are you stupid or something?
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I hate layne so bad because kids in the midwest an rural america like I was didnt have access to bodybuilding info yrs ago and thats the kinda people that fall for the layne norton lies. He is making a living ripping off 12-16yo boys imo worse then robbing banks and selling drugs he is for the most part a prostitue sells his integrity. At least when you sell some one drugs you give them what they payed for.
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I hate layne so bad because kids in the midwest an rural america like I was didnt have access to bodybuilding info yrs ago and thats the kinda people that fall for the layne norton lies. He is making a living ripping off 12-16yo boys imo worse then robbing banks and selling drugs he is for the most part a prostitue sells his integrity. At least when you sell some one drugs you give them what they payed for.
yes!,, and i will reap him a new asshole on the webpage ,, he and ron heris will be sorry to EVER get into bodybuild ,, i will make lots of damage to this 2 in particular ,, big bgi damage
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the thing few fellas her dotn get is....that lay nortom is a big user or homornes ,, he is not someone who just touch little haldrol lol he is big long time user of hormones,, he has extreme mind and head problems from abuse of specific hormones,, he is practicaly also lieing about it and walk aroudn lieing do criminal activity and try to live like saint with phds etc...the fellas is the worst example of the years 2000 when it comes to product of generation nothingess and bodybuild since he UNLIKE heris is young....he built himself base on the 2000 explosion of internet hormone supply
he is very very bad fella ,, i mean it,,thee is one thing to shut up ...but felas like ley nortom are the fellas who fuck up fellas like matt c ....and the result...is ....matt c which as you can see didnt get anywhere in bodybuild or powerlift...still took hormones no mater what he tought it was and you jsut see the result of what lay nortom did to 1000s of youngsters ,, he is criminal
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I agree, those guys need to be punched in their fucking head.
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but felas like ley nortom are the fellas who fuck up fellas like matt c ....and the result...is ....matt c
lol
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the thing few fellas her dotn get is....that lay nortom is a big user or homornes ,, he is not someone who just touch little haldrol lol he is big long time user of hormones,, he has extreme mind and head problems from abuse of specific hormones,, he is practicaly also lieing about it and walk aroudn lieing do criminal activity and try to live like saint with phds etc...the fellas is the worst example of the years 2000 when it comes to product of generation nothingess and bodybuild since he UNLIKE heris is young....he built himself base on the 2000 explosion of internet hormone supply
he is very very bad fella ,, i mean it,,thee is one thing to shut up ...but felas like ley nortom are the fellas who fuck up fellas like matt c ....and the result...is ....matt c which as you can see didnt get anywhere in bodybuild or powerlift...still took hormones no mater what he tought it was and you jsut see the result of what lay nortom did to 1000s of youngsters ,, he is criminal
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is halo causing him to scream nonsense in between sets?
is this involontary or is it an act?
i mean i admit me and my workout partner sometimes grunt to get intensity going but shouting these bizarre slogans like
BURY ALL!!!!
or
LAYNE WOULD YOU SACRIFICE TO WIN?!!!
or
THAT IS EASY! THATS A JOKE!!!!
is taking it to a whole new level
or is this simply a nerd trying to imitate branch warren and ronnie coleman who are legit monsters
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yes!,, and i will reap him a new asshole on the webpage ,, he and ron heris will be sorry to EVER get into bodybuild ,, i will make lots of damage to this 2 in particular ,, big bgi damage
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dammit this layne norton really get my worked up more then harris and dante and all of them at least they more or less make money from unwitting adults and even dante he does give you protien for your money. laynes specialty is more ripping off teens and the dont even get protein lol.
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why do you think its an act,, its someone who try to lift heavy and lift heavy,, the hormones help him ofcourse,,but take one look at him fella not right in head,, he is fucked from within ,, sprouts of high blod pressure from yes halotestin ,, when on to competition lots of trenbolona...he used no easter and short easter products,, he uses orals ,, and he just use hormones for very long time,, reason he look like balonie? he wasnt ever meant to do bodybuild,, he just doesnt have what it take for bodybuild this is also why remain in the natural lieing level and coudnt break into npc..do you realy thikn bodybuild want to b estuck in natural liar competition? they all want to go as far as possible but soem just dont have it friend
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dammit this layne norton really get my worked up more then harris and dante and all of them at least they more or less make money from unwitting adults and even dante he does give you protien for your money. laynes specialty is more ripping off teens and the dont even get protein lol.
no ,, lay nortom is speciakl catagory ,, danta not even close,, danta is diff aspect he knows and talk abotu hormoens all the time ,, lay nortom is a level of sociopatic behavior reserved to specific type of individuals that in the end can end up murdering someone and burning them in midlde of the desert...
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gh15 do you think at one point lame nerdton will derail and get admitted to mental institution?
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old pic 1996 i'm clean.
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gh15 do you think at one point lame nerdton will derail and get admitted to mental institution?
who knows,, i just dont think he will try to get higher in bodybuild,, he know he is walkign a very very thin line between average fellas who have no clue about bodybuild thinking he is a lieing scambag...so this thin line has to be kept ,, rememebr he try to make money out of a nitch this nitch got to be kept ,, moment he lose this nitch he is done with bodybuild or powerlift,, he is talking to specific audience ,, but....he has a huge surprize coming in 2012,, gh15 website..... its hell on earth for fellas like that
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i don't want to know the guy but consider all
of your druggie heros lie as part of making their living.
the asshole is sick strong and does have a pro card, lifting records
and don't he have a phd. another thing it's no wonder
so many fall for the gh15 gimmick old information when
you don't realize how different naturals look off season and stage ready.
then again most of you are gimmicks of gimmicks. the posters in wes's
old times thread are the real deal. seek out those guys. no wait they
want nothing to do with you but your damn entertaining. in a sad as fuck
sort of way.
he might be a druggie i dunno, i don't care but his credentials speak
for themselves. i hear he has 3 castles. anyone verify that (http://www.freejunknstuff.com/fork.gif)
where the fuck are my stars goddamnit
tribute to gh15 coach and kunt hovind
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who knows,, i just dont think he will try to get higher in bodybuild,, he know he is walkign a very very thin line between average fellas who have no clue about bodybuild thinking he is a lieing scambag...so this thin line has to be kept ,, rememebr he try to make money out of a nitch this nitch got to be kept ,, moment he lose this nitch he is done with bodybuild or powerlift,, he is talking to specific audience ,, but....he has a huge surprize coming in 2012,, gh15 website..... its hell on earth for fellas like that
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I agree 100%
but let me tell you your influence is even reaching his niche thru the getbig.com=>4chan/fit=>bodybuilding.com connection
these days people are talking about gh15 daily on the super high traffic beginners forums around the world and youtube as well pretty sure also facebook which i am not familiar with
within several years the supplement industry = finished if this continues
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found what I was looking for, satisfied 8)
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i don't want to know the guy but consider all
of your druggie heros lie as part of making their living.
the asshole is sick strong and does have a pro card, lifting records
and don't he have a phd. another thing it's no wonder
so many fall for the gh15 gimmick old information when
you don't realize how different naturals look off season and stage ready.
then again most of you are gimmicks of gimmicks. the posters in wes's
old times thread are the real deal. seek out those guys. no wait they
want nothing to do with you but your damn entertaining. in a sad as fuck
sort of way.
he might be a druggie i dunno, i don't care but his credentials speak
for themselves. i hear he has 3 castles. anyone verify that (http://www.freejunknstuff.com/fork.gif)
where the fuck are my stars goddamnit
tribute to gh15 coach and kunt hovind
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anyone who thikn gh15 is gimick realy need head exam ,, after so many years you realy need to look into your head,, not only im not gimick but im one individual ,, ONLY ONE SINGLE FELLA ALL THOSE YEARS ,, i probbaly am the most importent thing happen to bodybuild E V E R ,, and i say it on myself yes im narcisitic like any bodybuild out there but hey...atleast i raised 100s of thousands who have a clue about whats up and saved them 100s of thousands of dollars,, you go ahead and listen to the balonie you try to sell via supplment company....see how far you will go
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I agree 100%
but let me tell you your influence is even reaching his niche thru the getbig.com=>4chan/fit=>bodybuilding.com connection
these days people are talking about gh15 daily on the super high traffic beginners forums around the world and youtube as well pretty sure also facebook which i am not familiar with
within several years the supplement industry = finished if this continues
im aware ,, i had few elfs quiting from geting death treats and im being very serious,, so im ware of everything ,, but it is what it is
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im aware ,, i had few elfs quiting from geting death treats and im being very serious,, so im ware of everything ,, but it is what it is
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don't worry about death threats i'm in the undertaking business i can get good connect for coffins
peace
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PNS...is...that...you...
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he knows how to isolate his calves during the squat, but not in a good way. :-\
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nothing of importance
If you ever paid any attention i'm one of
the oldest competitors on the board and i'm life time natural.
you show your ignorance by even replying to me. i reply to you
cuz slamming christian fucktards is fun. this guy has got to be your dad
and mom
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lay nortom exploits the 12-18 year bodybuilding niche, where the kids are too young to know any better
ah yes that age group is very rigid in their tragic delusions
shame
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all ped
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If you ever paid any attention i'm one of
the oldest competitors on the board and i'm life time natural.
you show your ignorance by even replying to me. i reply to you
cuz slamming christian fucktards is fun. this guy has got to be your dad
and mom
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^ you just need do one thing retard,, tune in march 2012 ,, your life wil never be same again ,, infact im about to practicaly DESTROY the life of few filts ,, and all from servers located globaly and already sponsored by one of the most importent organizations in the world,, you just wait and see as the story roll
the more you stimulate me the beter it will be ,, but also the worst it wil be for the ones who lie
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x3.
the gh15 nut huggers and the guy himself have no idea. they never trained for any decent amount of time with success WITHOUT gear, so they tar everyone else who achieves.
there are absolutely no tell tale signs that layne juices...the myth that u cant get lean without gear is one propogated by gh15 himself.
people have been mega lean since the dawn of time..some can, some cant.
the odd person responds well to training and can get lean.
purely and simply, its genetics.
the problem is that most dont have these genetics so we have a ground swell of nay sayers ....its really just so they can feel good about their own inadequacies.
lets face it, if layne juiced, then he'd be holding more mass, stronger, and you'd see the odd sign such as gyno or acne or water bloat.
you dont see any of that...no extreme size, nothing really overly strong other than for a genetically gifted person, no obvious water retention..even in off season he looks pretty average.
i think he's giving a lesson to the haters..
look at some of the worlds top class sprinters..urine and blood tested dozens of times a year in and out of comp and they weigh a buck fifty but are ripped and look very muscular and are pretty strong.
There are literally thousands of wanna bes that take gear and still cant run as fast...or get as lean.
if u think that sprinting is still the domain of drug users, you'd be very wrong. NCAA im not so confident, but world stage, pretty clean.
so to the gh15 camp, explain that? theres loads mor examples. too many to list and too many to ignore. The gh15 camp just ignores it and makes ridiculous claims without basis or supporting evidence.
if it was a moderated debate then they'd be out with their tails between their legs, but unfortunately the mob rules on GB. in the real world we have intelligent people that can assess argument and determine what good evidence is and isnt, then make a decision.
its not a bunch of morons justifying their own existence and all slapping each other on the back saying "yeah, right on!"....and drowning out the facts.
This x 100
these boards used to be cool....
now completley ruined....
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^ you just need do one thing retard,, tune in march 2012 ,, your life wil never be same again ,, infact im about to practicaly DESTROY the life of few filts ,, and all from servers located globaly and already sponsored by one of the most importent organizations in the world,, you just wait and see as the story roll
the more you stimulate me the beter it will be ,, but also the worst it wil be for the ones who lie
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the world will never be the same again
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then cut down and be small and weak again
never ending cycle of hard work and dedication
such is the life of a natural bodybuilding
in the end they will receive a great blessing
127 posts today!! Holy sick, get a life
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insted of being very very quiet the liars became even louder,, and you shall see what they created in 2012 you just wait and see what they created ,,coming to teatres near you quite soon actualy ,, now day 3 months is no time
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old pic 1996 i'm clean.
great physique man..... good muscle quality
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x3.
the gh15 nut huggers and the guy himself have no idea. they never trained for any decent amount of time with success WITHOUT gear, so they tar everyone else who achieves.
that is because no success can be attained without gear
only misery and depression
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great physique man..... good muscle quality
thanx bro,,
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127 posts today!! Holy sick, get a life
I do with my winter holidays vacation what I want 8)
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I do with my winter holidays vacation what I want 8)
I think that's gotta be a record. In a fucked up way, I'm impressed. ;D
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I think that's gotta be a record. In a fucked up way, I'm impressed. ;D
rage against the bodybuilding industry is all that is on my mind
i can't try to pretend nothing is going on
shit is going down!!!
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thanx bro,,
really good muscle quality man
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How does he keep a straight face when posting bile like this:
As to whether I could cut it or not with the top competitors if I took steroids... that is pure speculation and there is no way to know... so why bother speculating about it? why did I decide? Well I never really had to decide as to be honest I've never seriously considered using. to be honest it's just not for me. It's expensive, illegal, and when abused can be dangerous and like any drug it can be addicitive; not physically but certainly psycologically as I have seen this first hand.
I have never had any desire to do steroids; I would never START doing them because I was jealous or felt jaded.
Now are there people who cheat? I'm sure there are. But they are the kind of weak minded pieces of garbage that won't make it long in this sport because they will cheat on their diet, cheat on their training, cheat on their cardio and eventually quit. Plus the other natural competitors will eventually find out and they will be outed.
holy shit bro
that's one sick and twisted individual
I wonder if he has any mirrors in his house
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I think that's gotta be a record. In a fucked up way, I'm impressed. ;D
Not even close. Lucius Fox, anyone? ;D
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5'11" = ideal bodybuilding height
one more question, if you could do it all over again
at what age would you have started using?
i would have started using in my early 20's
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old pic 1996 i'm clean.
Looking fucking excellent my friend................pr ops!!
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then cut down and be small and weak again
never ending cycle of hard work and dedication
such is the life of a natural bodybuilding
in the end they will receive a great blessing
135 posts in 2 days..............please end your miserable life or at least go outside and play for Gods sake!! ;D
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Regarding original topic, if anyone tried very low carb diet with only 75mg tren ace eod or ed with weekly refeeds for 6-8 weeks, you'd see why gh15 is right on the money when accusing Norton of being a liar.
In this case, a very specific look of muscle preservation and accelerated bf loss is readily achieved. Tren ace is not known for creating great muscle fullness but will have amazing feed efficiency effect so that nitrogen retention is present even in the case of near starvation.
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I'll agree that the sport is cleaner now then it has ever been in the past 3 decades,.
Actually I personally believe athletes and drugs are getting smarter...and PED users in sports is more now than ever.
Just looking at the sprinters pictures posted here, delts screams HGH :)
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I wish we could provoke liar on here but he knows better. He reads this thats how them kinda people operate he prolly googles his name every 3 hours.
He has posted on here before.
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ursus is delusional... "abs = not fat" hahahahaha
i had abs at 260... i have slightly better abs at 200. i'm an all natural wonder, i hope this helps.
still waiting for disco_stu to bury me under the mountain of evidence supporting his claims ::)
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ursus is delusional... "abs = not fat" hahahahaha
i had abs at 260... i have slightly better abs at 200. i'm an all natural wonder, i hope this helps.
still waiting for disco_stu to bury me under the mountain of evidence supporting his claims ::)
No you are not fat.
Abs at 260 is more impressive then abs at 200 you ninconpoop.
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No you are not fat.
Abs at 260 is more impressive then abs at 200 you ninconpoop.
i was fat as hell... i also have thick ass abs which can be seen through a mountain of blubber.
the point is you are going to lose well over 50 lbs if you are natural and ever want to get sub-6. i'm sorry. having seen some of your pics i wouldn't be surprised if you needed to lose significantly more than that to match layne's condition.
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Have you a picture?
Oh most likely but I have no intention to ever get sub 6%
I am 260 atm - happy enough with this weight might just stay at this weight but get stronger
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yes i've posted them several times.
i'm just saying layne's claim of 5'10 at 190 lbs in contest condition is no joke. you start to cut and the pounds begin to fall off. then they keep going, and going, and going... and you're nowhere near as lean as you thought you'd be. pretty soon 190 starts to sound awfully heavy...
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What I am trying to say also is weight is just a number. two people at 190 at the same height same bf % can look awfully different. Structure, bone density etc all pl;ay a massive part.
I think this guy is about 185
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the truth is out there
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x3.
the gh15 nut huggers and the guy himself have no idea. they never trained for any decent amount of time with success WITHOUT gear, so they tar everyone else who achieves.
there are absolutely no tell tale signs that layne juices...the myth that u cant get lean without gear is one propogated by gh15 himself.
people have been mega lean since the dawn of time..some can, some cant.
the odd person responds well to training and can get lean.
purely and simply, its genetics.
the problem is that most dont have these genetics so we have a ground swell of nay sayers ....its really just so they can feel good about their own inadequacies.
lets face it, if layne juiced, then he'd be holding more mass, stronger, and you'd see the odd sign such as gyno or acne or water bloat.
you dont see any of that...no extreme size, nothing really overly strong other than for a genetically gifted person, no obvious water retention..even in off season he looks pretty average.
i think he's giving a lesson to the haters..
look at some of the worlds top class sprinters..urine and blood tested dozens of times a year in and out of comp and they weigh a buck fifty but are ripped and look very muscular and are pretty strong.
There are literally thousands of wanna bes that take gear and still cant run as fast...or get as lean.
if u think that sprinting is still the domain of drug users, you'd be very wrong. NCAA im not so confident, but world stage, pretty clean.
so to the gh15 camp, explain that? theres loads mor examples. too many to list and too many to ignore. The gh15 camp just ignores it and makes ridiculous claims without basis or supporting evidence.
if it was a moderated debate then they'd be out with their tails between their legs, but unfortunately the mob rules on GB. in the real world we have intelligent people that can assess argument and determine what good evidence is and isnt, then make a decision.
its not a bunch of morons justifying their own existence and all slapping each other on the back saying "yeah, right on!"....and drowning out the facts.
pretty sums it all up.
Yes there are lots of guys on steroids pretending to be naturals, but there are also gifted and extremely consistant, dedicated genuine naturals who look great without using any drugs. The guys who ve been training one hour a day for 10,15,20 years , who are meso/ectomorphic and who always stay on a strict diet.
Genetics play a huge part in all of this.
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uhh,,,no fella your just delusiona,,,,
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pretty sums it all up.
Yes there are lots of guys on steroids pretending to be naturals, but there are also gifted and extremely consistant, dedicated genuine naturals who look great without using any drugs. The guys who ve been training one hour a day for 10,15,20 years , who are meso/ectomorphic and who always stay on a strict diet.
Genetics play a huge part in all of this.
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why would you want to weigh 260 when 50 and more of that is pure fat?
its not good for your inner organs, for your joints etc.
with every layer of fat and water laying on your muscle all the work in the gym just disappears into nowhere.
theres that saying, if you cant flex it, dont carry it around.
that 185 guy is at roughly 6 percent bf, maybe even less.
the guy has more muscle on his fame than you do as of now.
go diet yourself down to bbuilder level and then lets see whats left.
Because it is as unhealthy to be 15% bodyfat as it is 6% bodyfat.
Naturally i am not 6% bodyfat so why diet down to it.
Plus being big and strong is fun.
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What I am trying to say also is weight is just a number. two people at 190 at the same height same bf % can look awfully different. Structure, bone density etc all pl;ay a massive part.
I think this guy is about 185
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ok and?
what upoi try to say exactly? fella is on trenbolona and he is only 185...yes some fellas are build thiner and didnt apply enough thicknening products and over all just have thinner muslce due to genetic structure ,, yes true
still this fella is on and so does all the rest in this level and bodyfat to lean muscle ratio
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why would you want to weigh 260 when 50 and more of that is pure fat?
its not good for your inner organs, for your joints etc.
with every layer of fat and water laying on your muscle all the work in the gym just disappears into nowhere.
theres that saying, if you cant flex it, dont carry it around.
that 185 guy is at roughly 6 percent bf, maybe even less.
the guy has more muscle on his fame than you do as of now.
go diet yourself down to bbuilder level and then lets see whats left.
sure does,, the 180lb fella has more muscle than the 260 lb fella ,, sure does ,, more conditioned muscle!
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i've not seen a natural physique on this board
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Not on your nelly!
those are probably 16" arms. All lighting, angles and pump!
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pretty sums it all up.
Yes there are lots of guys on steroids pretending to be naturals, but there are also gifted and extremely consistant, dedicated genuine naturals who look great without using any drugs. The guys who ve been training one hour a day for 10,15,20 years , who are meso/ectomorphic and who always stay on a strict diet.
Genetics play a huge part in all of this.
yep they are trhere friend,, you can find them indeed
5'10 165lb 6-8% over all bodyfat ,, fat burners and few miserbble atempts at halodrol which is not that miserable since it is a damn hormone!,, but yes they are there 165lb 5'10 after good 5-10 years of no life but natural bodybuild and creatine homohydrate,,wil they look good yes.. will they look impressive in pictures ? yes by thsmelves...
will they look thick muscly matureed developed bodybuild? no! they just dont have the products to get there no mater how good they are
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Not on your nelly!
those are probably 16" arms. All lighting, angles and pump!
no he is hormonized and more conditioned muscle than you ,, actualy he would wope flor with you on stage,, and infact! no girl in any gym will evenm look at you when he enter,, he is wet dream for female and male depending on orientation ,, he is bodybuild on low dose testosterona and no hgh before mutation occure
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Leaner. Not more muscle.
That is all.
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more visible muscle my friend,, this is al thaty counts,, when you talk bodybuildl this is all that counts,, if he was 170 i would say you are right but no...he is 185....this is 15 extre lb of lean lean muscle,, this fella is not some balonie ,, he know his shit and as muscular as a bigger fella full of water and 14%...
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Apples and Oranges
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Because it is as unhealthy to be 15% bodyfat as it is 6% bodyfat.
Naturally i am not 6% bodyfat so why diet down to it.
Plus being big and strong is fun.
ummmmm ::) your not big or strong, your a big thick boned natural who weights 50 pounds more than he looks.
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is halo causing him to scream nonsense in between sets?
is this involontary or is it an act?
i mean i admit me and my workout partner sometimes grunt to get intensity going but shouting these bizarre slogans like
BURY ALL!!!!
or
LAYNE WOULD YOU SACRIFICE TO WIN?!!!
or
THAT IS EASY! THATS A JOKE!!!!
is taking it to a whole new level
or is this simply a nerd trying to imitate branch warren and ronnie coleman who are legit monsters
Damn, that bar is halfway down his back. :o
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this explains why he has subpar quad development
normal squats are superior
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this explains why he has subpar quad development
normal squats are superior
There is no such a thing like "normal squats", dildo.
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There is no such a thing like "normal squats", dildo.
this is how i squat and this is considered normal squats
the type of squat he is attempting is called "power squat"
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do you think the way norton squats there is the best way to make the legs grow?
his shitty form is further evidence that hes not natural.
I wouldn't want to be his spine in a few years from now. Whats odd is he is a student of nutrition/lifting techniques etc. One would think that he would lose the ego and start using form that would allow him to be able to lift weight decades from now. Instead he'll wind up in a wheel chair before his 40 birthday.
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I wouldn't want to be his spine in a few years from now. Whats odd is he is a student of nutrition/lifting techniques etc. One would think that he would lose the ego and start using form that would allow him to be able to lift weight decades from now. Instead he'll wind up in a wheel chair before his 40 birthday.
he keeps defending his form on youtube when all youtubers laugh at it
he says he has a short torso and long limbs so is forced to squat like this
well then i don't know how tall lay nortom is but misha is 6'4" and he squats with text book form
he can even do it with no hands
bottom line lay nortom is somehow mechanically deformed if he can't squat properly
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ummmmm ::) your not big or strong, your a big thick boned natural who weights 50 pounds more than he looks.
Yes 7" wrists at 6'3 screams big boned.
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nobodys is naturally at 6 percent, if were talking without touching weights and eating like average persons.
bodybuilding is not the healthiest sport to do natural or not, but the less you weigh the better for your health, that much is established.
i mean, why not settle for something like a permanent 10percent, this way joints will still be ok lubricated and you are able to eat cheat meals quite often.
and it will look better.
no ofense
I agree you make sense tbh.
I am a few lbs of 10% I would say. Maybe 10-12lbs
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i've not seen a natural physique on this board
go back to page 6,,,natural show npc,,took 3rd open middleweight about 171/172 carbed 5'7 or so,,,i'm not touting natural bbing it was my choice .i competed and took 1st in open class few yrs earlier not clean.so to be that conditioned not as full as when i won was small victory.
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glad we can agree on something without falling out 8)
you might weigh less then, yes, but youll look like you weigh more.
you know youre lean when people think youre heavier than you are with shirt off.
10percent bodyfat is the magic spot id say.
also, below 10percent, something happens to the metabolism, i have no idea what, but you get away with eating pretty unclean and will not gain any fat.
probably the body is in less estrogenic state with lower bf, i dont know.
jr, cheers man, thats what i meant.
good new poster we have here,,land of yates,,,
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Lame's squatting is a crime - lousy technique(stance, all quads, hip tilt, good morning) and way too much weight for his statue.
Would be interesting if he could squat 225lbs with good form.
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Lame's squatting is a crime - lousy technique(stance, all quads, hip tilt, good morning) and way too much weight for his statue.
Would be interesting if he could squat 225lbs with good form.
my own back hurts when i watch his vids. Bah, he s the one destroying his own body.
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layne seems to have plataued
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The only thing natural about Layne is his ability to lie to 15 year olds on an Internet Forum where he has conflict of interests with representation deals.
A lot of the naturals need to stop with the confirmation bias. You've trained all those years without gear and still cling onto the shred of hope that you can look like Layne naturally, after your goal of hitting Ronnie like proportions was taken away from you.
I am natural and I believe Layne uses AAS. Different steroids produce different effects. There is no fucking way he uses insulin, but GH / winstrol / trenbolone? yes, I wouldn't put it past him.
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The only thing natural about Layne is his ability to lie to 15 year olds on an Internet Forum where he has conflict of interests with representation deals.
A lot of the naturals need to stop with the confirmation bias. You've trained all those years without gear and still cling onto the shred of hope that you can look like Layne naturally, after your goal of hitting Ronnie like proportions was taken away from you.
I am natural and I believe Layne uses AAS. Different steroids produce different effects. There is no fucking way he uses insulin, but GH / winstrol / trenbolone? yes, I wouldn't put it past him.
very good! and you oare exatcly right ,, only hormones he DOESNT use is! insulin!
all the rest been used by him for many many years,, he is been on hormones for over 10 ! years !
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do you think the way norton squats there is the best way to make the legs grow?
his shitty form is further evidence that hes not natural.
as much as i hate this douchebag, he is training for powerlifting meets in these videos, not for bodybuilding......So of course the form is different. As much as he is a total guy, he actually has a decent deadlift and his squat is not bad considering his shitty leverages.
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very good! and you oare exatcly right ,, only hormones he DOESNT use is! insulin!
all the rest been used by him for many many years,, he is been on hormones for over 10 ! years !
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Thanks GH, although it is only because of you and the many other pupils spreading the bible that I know this.
Layne knows a lot of information but it is all for nothing if he lies about it. That skinny weaselly girl is still the same nerd from high school trying to overcompensate for all he lacked growing up.
This is what happens when you centre yourself with and do things from your ego instead of your heart and passion. Fuck him. I hope he drowns in a BCAA vat during a factory inspection of one of his many supplement sponsors.
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layne seems to have plataued
time to increase the kigtropin
30iu a day bro
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Bullshit.
you reach you limit after a few years of serious training, you will be as big as you are going to be...then you just kind of get muscle maturity as the years go by, but you don't really keep growing forever. Age has a lot to do with it too...once you hit your mid 30s, you're pretty much done growing as a man
You have guys that bulk way up, and cut way down...but they are really just adding and subtracting bodyfat...they are the size they are. I did it for years...then when I got on the gear, I made BIG changes in my physique for the first time in 15 years.
I'm now up to 240 and still 8-9%... I look fucking retarded. No way in hell I could ever do this naturally
I actually agree. There comes a time in natural bodybuilding where you just stop gaining properly and all that bulking up shit is just a waste of time, money and energy and will take a shit load out of you when your dieting down again. I personally will never go on a bulk again because Ive comed to realize that Ive reached my peak, the same peak I had back in 2007, and its not worth it to go through so much hard work for so little in return. You have to be so dedicated just to gain the smallest inch. Id rather just be on a diet all year around, or just maintaining and keeping my bodyfat in check with a lot of high intensety cardio. The "sad" part is, I could get away with weight training just once or twice a week and still keep most of my size/strength. I actually found out that it is much easier to maintain muscle than it is to maintain strength when a lot of cardio is involved as well.
All in all I love bodybuilding to death and I actually dont care so much about the results I get from it as much as the enjoyment I get out of it. I would be a sad miserable fuck without it...
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I actually agree. There comes a time in natural bodybuilding where you just stop gaining properly and all that bulking up shit is just a waste of time, money and energy and will take a shit load out of you when your dieting down again. I personally will never go on a bulk again because Ive comed to realize that Ive reached my peak, the same peak I had back in 2007, and its not worth it to go through so much hard work for so little in return. You have to be so dedicated just to gain the smallest inch. Id rather just be on a diet all year around, or just maintaining and keeping my bodyfat in check with a lot of high intensety cardio. The "sad" part is, I could get away with weight training just once or twice a week and still keep most of my size/strength. I actually found out that it is much easier to maintain muscle than it is to maintain strength when a lot of cardio is involved as well.
All in all I love bodybuilding to death and I actually dont care so much about the results I get from it as much as the enjoyment I get out of it. I would be a sad miserable fuck without it...
good post.