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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: oliveiraugo on January 05, 2012, 05:19:04 AM
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Hello,
I've already read the bible.
You said bodybuilders overall uses accutane (isotretinoin.) but here in my country is little difficult to get it.
Any other advise without accutane using? Some people say about B5, other about Chorella (herb.) I don't know.
I've been using EAīs for almost a year now (Mostly propionate test, boldenone, stanozolol, and ace trenb for a while.), and my skin is beginning to ruin my appearance.
Here are some pics, i am developing even acne on my stomach, lol, it sux. thanks god is only on my torso, not on the face or legs, my back is pretty fucked up too.
and since I'm posting pics, please give me some feedback about bodyfat, I'm on cutting right now, need to lose that waist fat. I'm on pre-contest, planing on compete in April for a fitness show. (I'm not on bodybuilding level yet lol.)
thx god!
(maybe the acne dont show well on the pics, but there black dots everywhere, and when u get close is fucking disgusting.)
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Have you tried to make an appt with a dermatologist ? I think you can get roacutane script easily that way.
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Have you tried to make an appt with a dermatologist ? I think you can get roacutane script easily that way.
Yes, shes a old friend of my family, she knows that i do EAīs and stuff.
But she dont want to prescript cause she needs some tests of my liver...
and my liver should be pretty fucked up right now, since im on juice for a year now.
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sorry offtopic, you look pretty bloated, how much test a week u take ?
ive seen a couple of "naturals" at my gym with the same problem
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When I saw the pics I thought this guy is a natural who's been training max 3 years.
I was wrong.
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Take some NAC 300-600mg/day e start eating pineapples ASAP. Do the lab work after a month or so.
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sorry offtopic, you look pretty bloated, how much test a week u take ?
ive seen a couple of "naturals" at my gym with the same problem
yeah, you look pretty bad for following bible as close as you do. where's the gh in there?
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sorry offtopic, you look pretty bloated, how much test a week u take ?
ive seen a couple of "naturals" at my gym with the same problem
Usually over the year I used only about 600mg propionate /Week.
But 2 months from now ive began with something like 600mg propionate plus 300mg enanthate/week, plus the equipona, makes you pretty bloated.
will begin to drop test dosing since i have a vial of ace trenb on the way, and of course I will need to eliminate all water since im on pre-contest.
Im a ballon of water right now. I hope Letrozol and Diuretics do the job when i get to 4/5 weeks out.
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yeah, you look pretty bad for following bible as close as you do. where's the gh in there?
Sorry GH here is pretty expensive, im on budget right now. I will began on 4ui daily maybe at the end of the year. (chinese GH off course, cause pharm GH here costs like 100 dolars for 12ui.)
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Take some NAC 300-600mg/day e start eating pineapples ASAP. Do the lab work after a month or so.
I eat lots of pineapple. Shit doesnīt work...
Sorry, but what is NAC?
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So many saddening things in this thread. The topic, the pictures, the comments.
I hope you re proud of your job "god" of hormones". Look at the results of your influence. Getting the "knowledges" of a minority of extremistic lying insecure drug abusers with nothing better to do of their existences, to the mainstream public thru the internet ... what a great work.
"oliveiraugo "; congrats, you look like a ... natural who s covered with acne. One year of juice to look like that?
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Drop the gear for a few weeks. Get some soap with benzyol peroxide. Get some vitamen b5 and mega dose it for awhile. If you can get to a tanning bed hit that once a week.
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So many saddening things in this thread. The topic, the pictures, the comments.
I hope you re proud of your work "god" of hormones". Look at the results of your influence.
"oliveiraugo "; congrats, you look like a ... natural who s covered with acne. One year of juice to look like that?
i dont think that we can blame gh for this...
fella didnt read the bible... if i were him i would go on tri blends 1cc per day, or EOD, with increased tren ace intake, maybe low dose hgh, that's it, exelent for fitness modeling.
No need for gram of testosterone a week solo infact its crazy to do it without HGH !, this is what you get if you make this mistake.
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i dont think that we can blame gh for this...
fella didnt read the bible... if i were him i would go on tri blends 1cc per day, or EOD, with increased tren ace intake, that's it. No need for gram of testosterone a week solo, without HGH, this is what you get if you make this mistake.
Lifting weights naturally to stay in shape, not being extremistic about it, not being a narcissist, is healthy and positive, inspiring. Everything else above this line is a mistake. Going the steroid route to cure psychological insecurity is only worsening issues hiding them artificially under a layer of new bullshits, new destructive addictions, behaviors that at some points will have to be unlearned at the cost of even more useless , self inflicted suffering.
Steroids and hgh are suposed to be used for ill, sick people , to ease their pain in the first place. Their use to develop more muscle mass, to develop ego and cure psychological insecurities -unsuccessfuly- is madness.
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That's a year or juice, you look bad for natty. Where did you buy all your stuff from?
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Drop the gear for a few weeks. Get some soap with benzyol peroxide. Get some vitamen b5 and mega dose it for awhile. If you can get to a tanning bed hit that once a week.
ok dude, thanks, i will try that. I do live in brazil, so go to beach once and a while pretty affordable, hehe.
a love those stupid comments like im 15 years guy or some steroid newbie.
I have 25 yo, I trained natural for 10 years, I do study steroids since 18, and began to try bodybuilding 2 years ago. I only discovered GH15 3 months ago.
Im bloated in this pictures, but pictures lie, my arms still measure "45cm". And im 5"11 200 pounds. I donīt care about anyone saying shit on the internet, because most of them when i meet personally are smaller than me. I will continue my pre contest, and when i get frist place I will post here again.
I have good knowledge about bodybuilding, cycles, steroids, nutrition, BUT, I donīt find good resources of juice. Thats is RARE my friends, u need connections... Neither use GH, neither USE those supplements that sell in americana and help you guys, cause is a waste of money and expensive as fuck here in Brazil.
All of my gear are underground. Except for Test... maybe had injected underdoused shit all over the year...
I use mostly Landerlan (Argentina.) Growth Company (Brazil.) undergrounds.
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Lifting weights naturally to stay in shape, not being extremistic about it, not being a narcissist, is healthy and positive, inspiring. Everything else above this line is a mistake. Going the steroid route to cure psychological insecurity is only worsening issues hiding them artificially under a layer of new bullshits, new destructive addictions, behaviors that at some points will have to be unlearned at the cost of even more useless , self inflicted suffering.
Steroids and hgh are suposed to be used for ill, sick people , to ease their pain in the first place. Their use to develop more muscle mass, to develop ego and cure psychological insecurities -unsuccessfuly- is madness.
Will you shut up. Life is short if someone wants to inject some steroids to look better and feel better about themselves who fucking cares. You're such a debby downer. Why are you even on this site every post I read of yours you sound like a highschool principal or something. Go fuck yourself.
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22.5 inch guns. That's getbig's record. Congratulations. :)
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ok dude, thanks, i will try that. I do live in brazil, so go to beach once and a while pretty affordable, hehe.
a love those stupid comments like im 15 years guy or some steroid newbie.
I have 25 yo, I trained natural for 10 years, I do study steroids since 18, and began to try bodybuilding 2 years ago. I only discovered GH15 3 months ago.
Im bloated in this pictures, but pictures lie, my arms still measure 22.5 inches. And im 5"11 200 pounds. I donīt care about anyone saying shit on the internet, because most of them when i meet personally are smaller than me. I will continue my pre contest, and when i get frist place I will post here again.
I have good knowledge about bodybuilding, cycles, steroids, nutrition, BUT, I donīt find good resources of juice. Thats is RARE my friends, u need connections... Neither use GH, neither USE those supplements that sell in americana and help you guys, cause is a waste of money and expensive as fuck here in Brazil.
All of my gear are underground. Except for Test... maybe had injected underdoused shit all over the year...
I use mostly Landerlan (Argentina.) Growth Company (Brazil.) undergrounds.
no nobody said, at least i didnt, that you dont have a clue about gear... just IMO you will look a lot of better if on triblends all year round and a little higher tren ace dose, than if you were on test gram a week the whole year...you will weight lighter yes, but conditioned weight ! that matters especially for fitness modeling in what you are interested. just my two cents
i think its not that hard to find triblends, even in your country.
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Will you shut up. Life is short if someone wants to inject some steroids to look better and feel better about themselves who fucking cares. You're such a debby downer. Why are you even on this site every post I read of yours you sound like a highschool principal or something. Go fuck yourself.
oh i see we have a deep thinker here..
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ok dude, thanks, i will try that. I do live in brazil, so go to beach once and a while pretty affordable, hehe.
a love those stupid comments like im 15 years guy or some steroid newbie.
I have 25 yo, I trained natural for 10 years, I do study steroids since 18, and began to try bodybuilding 2 years ago. I only discovered GH15 3 months ago.
Im bloated in this pictures, but pictures lie, my arms still measure 22.5 inches. And im 5"11 200 pounds. I donīt care about anyone saying shit on the internet, because most of them when i meet personally are smaller than me. I will continue my pre contest, and when i get frist place I will post here again.
I have good knowledge about bodybuilding, cycles, steroids, nutrition, BUT, I donīt find good resources of juice. Thats is RARE my friends, u need connections... Neither use GH, neither USE those supplements that sell in americana and help you guys, cause is a waste of money and expensive as fuck here in Brazil.
All of my gear are underground. Except for Test... maybe had injected underdoused shit all over the year...
I use mostly Landerlan (Argentina.) Growth Company (Brazil.) undergrounds.
Oh brother. Where's Squad when we need him.
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what the fuck is triblend?
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no nobody said, at least i didnt, that you dont have a clue about gear... just IMO you will look a lot of better if on triblends all year round and a little higher tren ace dose, than if you were on test gram a week the whole year...you will weight lighter yes, but conditioned weight ! that matters especially for fitness modeling in what you are interested. just my two cents
i think its not that hard to find triblends, even in your country.
i think it's generally harder to find legit blends than solo test
and 22,5 inch arms, ooooh boy ;D
does that mean brazilian synthol master race or just poor measuring skills?
btw you look like shit
(suprprised nobody has said that before)
hope this helps bro
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what the fuck is triblend?
tren ace, propionate masteron mix 50 50 50 depending , but mostly 50 50 50 per one ml
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Hey dude, im not saying that im big and conditioned, lol? Im far from it. VERY VERY far.
Im just saying that im far away from a natural kiddo... We live in a sick world where people on 1g test week and 500mg of trenbo ace claims to be natural
Itīs just sick...
just saying, im still on frist year of underground shit gear, unfortunatly, need to get some sources.
I will began to get more ace trenb, and try to lower the test tho. Tri blends should work. I really thank you guys.
About acne, any more advising?
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Hey dude, im not saying that im big and conditioned, lol? Im far from it. VERY VERY far.
Im just saying that im far away from a natural kiddo... We live in a sick world where people on 1g test week and 500mg of trenbo ace claims to be natural
Itīs just sick...
just saying, im still on frist year of underground shit gear, unfortunatly, need to get some sources.
I will began to get more ace trenb, and try to lower the test tho. Tri blends should work. I really thank you guys.
About acne, any more advising?
(http://i.imgur.com/OwKYT.jpg)
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oh i see we have a deep thinker here..
Your replies are really starting to irratate me. I'm a man of faith to but I use aas. So what If I do? Is god going to send me to hell because of it? Am I going to burn in the eternal pits of hell because I want to carry a little bit more muscle than I would naturally?
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Thank god I never get acne. Never understood guys juicing up when the result is a bigger body but covered with acne. How about this, stop taking gear. Your arms are nowhere near 22.5" either
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i think it's generally harder to find legit blends than solo test
and 22,5 inch arms, ooooh boy ;D
does that mean brazilian synthol master race or just poor measuring skills?
btw you look like shit
(suprprised nobody has said that before)
hope this helps bro
Lol, i wish i had synthol dealer, My calves really need them.
I donīt hate you man, donīt be so mean. I love you all
I have some good bodybuilders friends (here in Brazil we have tons of good BBers.)
they say i have a LOT of Water retention. A LOT, like a fucking crazy water ballon. Aldactone doesnt seen to work...
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Why did you say you have 22 inch guns? :-X
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Why did you say you have 22 inch guns? :-X
22.5" son
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Why did you say you have 22 inch guns? :-X
well 45cm are 22.5 inches, right?
whatever, I was just giving the measure.
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well 45cm are 22.5 inches, right?
whatever, I was just giving the measure.
45 cm = bit over 17.5"
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45 cm = bit over 17.5"
lol sorry then! gonna edit them, lol.
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tren ace, propionate masteron mix 50 50 50 depending , but mostly 50 50 50 per one ml
tren year round... are you insane? what about loosing some fat, adding some muscles and diet? my friends took tren, sides made it impossible for them to take it longer than 8 weeks. jeez guys, have you ever even heard of anyone who took tren first hand?
oliveir what are your stats? deadlift, squat?
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^ your friends are pussy's ive been on tren for close to 3.5months now and feelingfine just leaner and bigger, btw im 20years young
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rofl pussies, post some pictures. one of them had acne even on his forearms, other one couldnt sleep, was all red and fainted in toilet couple of times.
as for the author you need couple of things:
- cardio
- aromatase inhibitors
- CHEST development. and i thought i had no chest, lol.
your estrogen is WAY out of control. that's why you have this horrific acne and bloat. you should take care of it since it will be EXTREMELY high to diet down with estrogen so high.
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tren year round... are you insane? what about loosing some fat, adding some muscles and diet? my friends took tren, sides made it impossible for them to take it longer than 8 weeks. jeez guys, have you ever even heard of anyone who took tren first hand?
oliveir what are your stats? deadlift, squat?
well im going to say it in kilos, if i try to say that in lbs going to screw it up like i did in inches lol.
Deadlift i do about 80kgs on each side = about 170kgs with the bar.
My squats are pretty garbage 60kgs on each side = about 130kgs with the bar.
Benching press about 120kgs.
They are my max.
Im not a good powerlifter, I like to do less weight and more concentrated movements, doing exercises til failure. I have spent years around trying to "LIFT" weights, and thats not good if u want to grow.
My diet right now is on 200g carbs a day, ~300 prot, and ~50g fat. Next month doing 100g carbs, and then zero carb.
Cardio 2x a day.
Ive said im 200 pounds at the frist page, im wrong, im 87kgs, wich is 193lbs.
Gonna cut until at least ~79kgs 174lbs.
Of course the mirror should tell when im lean, but a need to lose probably about 8kgs of fat/water.
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Hello,
I've already read the bible.
You said bodybuilders overall uses accutane (isotretinoin.) but here in my country is little difficult to get it.
Any other advise without accutane using? Some people say about B5, other about Chorella (herb.) I don't know.
I've been using EAīs for almost a year now (Mostly propionate test, boldenone, stanozolol, and ace trenb for a while.), and my skin is beginning to ruin my appearance.
Here are some pics, i am developing even acne on my stomach, lol, it sux. thanks god is only on my torso, not on the face or legs, my back is pretty fucked up too.
and since I'm posting pics, please give me some feedback about bodyfat, I'm on cutting right now, need to lose that waist fat. I'm on pre-contest, planing on compete in April for a fitness show. (I'm not on bodybuilding level yet lol.)
thx god!
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/get1z.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/get2.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/get3t.jpg
(maybe the acne dont show well on the pics, but there black dots everywhere, and when u get close is fucking disgusting.)
lol.. lot of experts here... ::) ::)
you do hold waaaaaay to much water.... you do not know how to cycle.... ;)
i like you bdb by the way.... looks promising actually....
you just hold a ton of water and a bit of fat ... and in the "wrong places" it makes you look like shit!
you should make sure you are in shape to look good... some people can get away with being 11/12 % you van not! but you are somewhere at 10% you look 15 lol... because of the water.
ok...
get rid of the test!
get some proviron from farmacia... and you have tren on the way like you saidtest....
masteron is hard to get in brazil, but in the farmacia they have proviron, which is a poor mans masterone..
low dose test only if needed.... use 50 mg eod and go from there.
your acne is from bunk gear dude.... seen it on a lot of guys.... it's bunk gear!!!
test 50 mg eod
tren 150 mg eod
proviron 50 mg a day
do this until you are in decent shape... water should go away...
and get a new source!
do not use diuretics off season , only use it for a show!
and eat good! a lot of you brazookas eat like crap!
arroz e frango!
ovos
carne.... picanha(tirando a gordura)... filet...
peixe
tipo comida caseira.. e gostoso e deixa o cara sarado!
eat 3 /4 times a day.... when hungry...
when not so hungry eat less... very simpel.. lol....
listen to your body...
Boa Sorte...
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rofl pussies, post some pictures. one of them had acne even on his forearms, other one couldnt sleep, was all red and fainted in toilet couple of times.
as for the author you need couple of things:
- cardio
- aromatase inhibitors
- CHEST development. and i thought i had no chest, lol.
your estrogen is WAY out of control. that's why you have this horrific acne and bloat. you should take care of it since it will be EXTREMELY high to diet down with estrogen so high.
Thanks for the input! 8)
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Thanks for the input! 8)
i meant extremely hard.
as for your lifts. they are horrible for your weight. you should go back to the basics.
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lol.. lot of experts here... ::) ::)
you do hold waaaaaay to much water.... you do not know how to cycle.... ;)
i like you bdb by the way.... looks promising actually....
you just hold a ton of water and a bit of fat ... and in the "wrong places" it makes you look like shit!
you should make sure you are in shape to look good... some people can get away with being 11/12 % you van not! but you are somewhere at 10% you look 15 lol... because of the water.
ok...
get rid of the test!
get some proviron from farmacia... and you have tren on the way like you saidtest....
masteron is hard to get in brazil, but in the farmacia they have proviron, which is a poor mans masterone..
low dose test only if needed.... use 50 mg eod and go from there.
your acne is from bunk gear dude.... seen it on a lot of guys.... it's bunk gear!!!
test 50 mg eod
tren 150 mg eod
proviron 50 mg a day
do this until you are in decent shape... water should go away...
and get a new source!
do not use diuretics off season , only use it for a show!
and eat good! a lot of you brazookas eat like crap!
arroz e frango!
ovos
carne.... picanha(tirando a gordura)... filet...
peixe
tipo comida caseira.. e gostoso e deixa o cara sarado!
eat 3 /4 times a day.... when hungry...
when not so hungry eat less... very simpel.. lol....
listen to your body...
Boa Sorte...
Lol thats why I love you optimus.
Obrigado cara! vou seguir o que vocę disse. Realmente esse agua toda ta acabando comigo.
test 50 mg eod
tren 150 mg eod
proviron 50 mg a day
gonna try it. Thanks.
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Lol thats why a love you optimus.
Obrigado cara! vou seguir o que vocę disse. Realmente esse agua toda ta acabando comigo.
test 50 mg eod
tren 150 mg eod
proviron 50 mg a day
gonna try it. Thanks.
i would keep test at 100mg eod, i would just add aromasin or atd instead.
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This is a problem for me too. I get acne all over my shoulders and even arms
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i would keep test at 100mg eod, i would just add aromasin or atd instead.
no!
i said he should use 50mg eod...
why would you go and use an ai or anti e?
that is only for a show... and he is weeks away from showtime!
just lower test... up tren and eq.... and add proviron... masterone would be first choice but hard to get in brazil...
he should use 50 mg testo eod and go from there!! not 100.... not at first... test should be lowered to see where that gets him...let his body get rid of all that water and then maybe slowly built test up... maybe...
let his body adjust so to speak....
trust me....
i am not gh15 but i do know what i am talking about.... ;)
he is like a buddy of mine... reacts crap on test..
my buddy did a show on just 25 mg of test p eod... tren was skyhigh and eq as well lol...!!
and hgh 4iu's a day....
got 5th at the worldchampionships.... at the masters..hard as a rock!
he was a dwarf btw 1,60... easy to fill out.... ;D
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no!
i said he should use 50mg eod...
why would you go and use an ai or anti e?
that is only for a show... and he is weeks away from showtime!
just lower test... up tren and eq.... and add proviron... masterone would be first choice but hard to get in brazil...
he should use 50 mg testo eod and go from there!! not 100.... not at first... test should be lowered to see where that gets him...let his body get rid of all that water and then maybe slowly built test up... maybe...
let his body adjust so to speak....
trust me....
i am not gh15 but i do know what i am talking about.... ;)
he is like a buddy of mine... reacts crap on test..
my buddy did a show on just 25 mg of test p eod... tren was skyhigh and eq as well lol...!!
and hgh 4iu's a day....
got 5th at the worldchampionships.... at the masters..hard as a rock!
he was a dwarf btw 1,60... easy to fill out.... ;D
i use ai year round. why? to prevent bloat from test.
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Lol thats why I love you optimus.
Obrigado cara! vou seguir o que vocę disse. Realmente esse agua toda ta acabando comigo.
test 50 mg eod
tren 150 mg eod
proviron 50 mg a day
gonna try it. Thanks.
nao problema mano....
tem algums caras aki com conhecimento.. mas a majoria so fala merda... rsrsrs...
you can look very decent.. just get rid of the water.... and that is only a question of using the right products.. and quality!!
your acne is from dirty gear... garanteed... ;)
don't you have any connection with a farmacia? in brasil everything is possible... lol!
just get a script for durateston, proviron whatever... original stuff human grade....
you will see the acne going away...
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i use ai year round. why? to prevent bloat from test.
The problem is pharm grade AI here is pretty expensive.
Like Femara (Letrozol) is U$100 and Arimidex (Anastrozol.) U$ 150 on pharm
We need to go to underground shit even on AI... Only thing wich is cheaper here on pharm is Tamoxifen costs about 10 dolars a box. I use Tamoxifen whe I feel my estrogen going to the high skys. (like now.)
But is not effective as Letrozol of course. Maybe I will try the Underground one.
Need to get some scriptions for Proviron too. Well i think now things should get better, Will get Test from Pharm, proviron from pharm and only thing i shoulde be using underground is Ace trenb.
The problem now is to find a good corrupted doctor.
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nao problema mano....
tem algums caras aki com conhecimento.. mas a majoria so fala merda... rsrsrs...
you can look very decent.. just get rid of the water.... and that is only a question of using the right products.. and quality!!
your acne is from dirty gear... garanteed... ;)
don't you have any connection with a farmacia? in brasil everything is possible... lol!
just get a script for durateston, proviron whatever... original stuff human grade....
you will see the acne going away...
Pior que vocę ta certo, é isso mesmo. Drogas underground acabam com nosso corpo de tempo em tempo.
O problema vai ser achar alguma conexão com farmácia, é bem dificil. Mas vou tentar.
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The problem is pharm grade AI here is pretty expensive.
Like Femara (Letrozol) is U$100 and Arimidex (Anastrozol.) U$ 150 on pharm
We need to go to underground shit even on AI... Only thing wich is cheaper here on pharm is Tamoxifen costs about 10 dolars a box. I use Tamoxifen whe I feel my estrogen going to the high skys. (like now.)
But is not effective as Letrozol of course. Maybe I will try the Underground one.
Need to get some scriptions for Proviron too. Well i think now things should get better, Will get Test from Pharm, proviron from pharm and only thing i shoulde be using underground is Ace trenb.
The problem now is to find a good corrupted doctor.
;D
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i use ai year round. why? to prevent bloat from test.
lol.. just use less test then.... al that the extra test does is give you bloat...
test bloat is what you get when your body does not cope well with the given dose...
using ai or anti e's all year is not a healthy thing.... lol yeah i know like steroids are healthy... well they are not so bad.... ;D
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yes this sounds more adequate for your size.
and jesus, eat cleaner, this will help with the acne itself.
the fatter you are the worse your estrogen convertion will be.
You wonīt believe, but i eat clean as hell.
Brown rice, chicken breast, sweet potato egg whites and fish all day...
Yeah, like I study steroids for years, but some things you only learn when u try it for yourself.
i dont even use supplements, the only supplements i do are Vita C, fish oil, tribulus, multivitamin...
and im always on ephedrine and t4. (mostly 25mg-50mg ephedrine/day and 100mcg/150mcg T4 day.)
This MUST be water, if all of that is fat im pretty fucked up... I know i look horrible, thatīs why I posted here.
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ok theres good and bad news.
first the good, your acne isnt bad.
heres the bad news, your body is bad.
you look like shit.
you been on too much freaking steroids for a year, that is why youre bloated.and its not just water, its water and fat retention from estrogenic state.
are you even eating clean once in a while?
1g test a week and no gh,lol, what you think who you are,a pro?you got barely more size than a natty.
my advise, go off steroids for a while, train natty a bit.try to get somewhta lean and then go back to hormones again with half the dosage you used and a cleaner diet.
ffs
don't be so hard on the guy... he is asking for advice... he is at least trying to learn...
he does NOT look like shit... he is out of shape yes...and indeed a lot of water lololol!
he actualy has a decent bdb.... thick back... looks promising... sure not a lot of mass yet... but that is just a question of the right sups!
and get off steroids????????????????????????????????
wtf this is a FUCKING bb board!! lol...
worst advice you can give a serious bodybuilder is go off the gear.... lol!
and the dude is serious , he just needs to adjust his products! but not go off!!!
go off = time lost!
;D ;D ;D
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You wonīt believe, but i eat clean as hell.
Brown rice, chicken breast, sweet potato egg whites and fish all day...
Yeah, like I study steroids for years, but some things you only learn when u try it for yourself.
i dont even use supplements, the only supplements i do are Vita C, fish oil, tribulus, multivitamin...
and im always on ephedrine and t4. (mostly 25mg-50mg ephedrine/day and 100mcg/150mcg T4 day.)
This MUST be water, if all of that is fat im pretty fucked up... I know i look horrible, thatīs why I posted here.
relax buddy!!!! stress wil let you hold water as well! lolol..... just kidding!
no most of it is water.....
your about 10% bodyfat... look 15 because of the water....
just do what i said.... the water will go away....
and the acne is bunk gear... nothing to do with diet... like i said dirty gear!!!!
seen that type of acne before....
do not listen to all these remarks here.... you will get lost....
you are not fat! you are a waterballoon....
you are using crap gear
2 things that can be solved easily....
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ok ill be nicer from now to him.ofc he doesnt look all bad, but somethings wrong here.
bw when i said go off stroids, i meant mazbe 1 month or 6weeks, to deplete the body of the accumulated enanthate, then start again.
even in that "off" time thered be still plent enanthate in his blood and if he diets during that the water retention will be reduced, that was my point 8)
i got your point bro.. just teasing a bit... but off time = lost time...
so that will be 6 weeks of lost time lolol! ;D ;D ;D
he just needs to lower the test... get quality gear....
get some tren ... keep in eq... up these 2 compounds...
get some proviron...
that will solve the water and acne problems....
i am telling you he reminds me of my buddy i was talking about.. lol!
and he got stage ready in weeks! so can this dude.... its mostly water... but a lot of water! lol!
he could loose 20 pouds of mostly water and look decent!
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yes, forget about t3,t4, get efedrine if you can and start using pharma grade test.
btw, as far as bunk gear being responsible for acne, im not so sure if thats exclusive, ive been getting acne from pharmacy test, but mostly if i go and eat like adonis claims he does.
that said, his principles dont even work right on steroids, it kinda works if you get a calorie surplus, though.
in a deficit, its not any good not even for a geared up guy
agreed....
i eat whatever i want.. i just keep it healthy... common sense i think..
but really i do NOT diet, do not keep track of carbs or fats... or protein for that matter....
i look, and feel better then i ever did!
i eat 3 or 4 times a day.... make sure every meal has some protein , but like i said do not count it...
and eat when i am hungry... some days i eat 5 times others only 2....
adonis says it does not matter what you eat and that is bullshit.... i do eat healthy and good rich food...
a calorie is not a calorie....
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lol.. lot of experts here... ::) ::)
you do hold waaaaaay to much water.... you do not know how to cycle.... ;)
i like you bdb by the way.... looks promising actually....
you just hold a ton of water and a bit of fat ... and in the "wrong places" it makes you look like shit!
you should make sure you are in shape to look good... some people can get away with being 11/12 % you van not! but you are somewhere at 10% you look 15 lol... because of the water.
ok...
get rid of the test!
get some proviron from farmacia... and you have tren on the way like you saidtest....
masteron is hard to get in brazil, but in the farmacia they have proviron, which is a poor mans masterone..
low dose test only if needed.... use 50 mg eod and go from there.
your acne is from bunk gear dude.... seen it on a lot of guys.... it's bunk gear!!!
test 50 mg eod
tren 150 mg eod
proviron 50 mg a day
do this until you are in decent shape... water should go away...
and get a new source!
do not use diuretics off season , only use it for a show!
and eat good! a lot of you brazookas eat like crap!
arroz e frango!
ovos
carne.... picanha(tirando a gordura)... filet...
peixe
tipo comida caseira.. e gostoso e deixa o cara sarado!
eat 3 /4 times a day.... when hungry...
when not so hungry eat less... very simpel.. lol....
listen to your body...
Boa Sorte...
SPOT ON.
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For a someone's first cycle, do you recommend 250mg or 500mg test a week? Thanks 8)
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haha 200lbs at 12% bf and on multiple compounds for years. You must have some bunk ass gear
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Thanks optimusprime and galeniko
I will be mostly doing that.
I have some stanozolol here too.
So I will basicaly do
Test Prop 50mg EOD
Stanozolol 100mg EOD
Equipona 500mg Weekly
ACE TRENB 75mg EOD (Donīt have it yet, its on the way.)
Proviron 50mg Day (Working on a source.)
I will use some tamoxifen to help estrogen go down since I have a box here.
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Maybe the doc can take care of your bitch-tits while he's at it.
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try as low as possible and see how it works and then take it from there.
your own test production will be shot even from 250mg weekly, so that shouldnt even be an issue.
Thanks, should I throw in some dbol or since its my first cycle, just test so I know how I react to it?
Also, since its my first cycle do you believe in PCT or like most people here, no such thing as OFF?
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i have had pretty bad acne on my back and 2 things almost totaly eliminated it, wash with dish washing soap no joke... and go sunbanking few times or however u call it there it will be gone in no time!
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I fear that more young people without a clue will fuck themselves up be reading info not required for the majority.
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Yeap going out in the sun solved lots of acnee related problems.
BUT FOR CRYING OUT LOD
DO NOT ADD D-BOL ON YOUR ALREADY 1 GRAM TEST CYCLE.
YOU WILL BULK EVEN HEAVIER WITH WATER.
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IMO information should be available to EVERYONE. What you do with this information is up to you.
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50mg of prop eod + no atd < 100mg of prop eod + atd when it comes to size and strength for me. and ai is not that bad as long as you make sure you get your estrogen back to NORMAL :)
"your acne is from dirty gear... garanteed..."
bullshit. i ran pharm grade test from jelfa and i had acne.
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Sorry GH here is pretty expensive, im on budget right now. I will began on 4ui daily maybe at the end of the year. (chinese GH off course, cause pharm GH here costs like 100 dolars for 12ui.)
This sound brazilian ;D
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50mg of prop eod + no atd < 100mg of prop eod + atd when it comes to size and strength for me. and ai is not that bad as long as you make sure you get your estrogen back to NORMAL :)
"your acne is from dirty gear... garanteed..."
bullshit. i ran pharm grade test from jelfa and i had acne.
lol..... you are a steroid virgin are you?
jelfa = omnadren.... that is dirty gear....!! it's from poland and they are not very strict there concerning sterility.. thanks for confirming my point! ;D any bodybuilder with some real expertise knows this...
get your facts straight...
his acne is from dirty gear.... just like i said...
and go and use ai's or anti e's year round... sure....
that is not needed at gymrat level .... just lower test and up tren /eq/whatever compound that does not get you to hold lots of water...
and not everybody does well on high test... like i said my buddy got 5th at world masters on 25 mg of test p eod... rest of compounds were skyhigh though... ;D
how many guys have you helped with your "advice"
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well, me, i have no goals of becoming bigger, i been there doing the ridiculous cycles etc, these days i try to maintain with minimm effort.
if i go off, i go off of everything and i never do pct, frankly, its useless and the body will crash and no pct will fix long use overnight.
usualy i do this when theres a time where i dont feel like working out at all or am too busy.
but until you havent reached your goal, i wouldnt go off at all, expect for medical reasons/if you get too hefty sides.
as for gear usage in general, i personaly do use the least amount when growing, and then increase the amount for dieting.
calories greatly help for growing and you can run less gear while building weight, thats what a former pro told me a while ago, and i found it to be true for me.
so yeah, my view is to keep hormone usage low while building(dont confuse this with off season, never get unreasonably fat) and go higher during diet, bc it helps keeping up agressiveness for training and prevents the body from eating its own muscle in diet.
so, do a 250mg test week cycle for 6months and eat clean and alot, allow yourself even fastfood, can be daily once, as long you dont get fat doing it.
cheers. :D
agreed on the pct!!!
pct is useless... and they still do not get it! lol!
i never used pct never ever!!
neither used anti e's or ai's for that matter....
and yes a lot of guys i know also up the dose while dieting.... test gets lower yes.. but the rest.. well... lol! skyhigh... ;D ;D
good post...
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maybe get some doxycycline an anitbiotic that always cleared me up. I dont think you look so bad just bloated but have quite a bit of muscle mass. dandruff shampoo with zinc can help also somtimes zinc kills bacteria thats the cheapest options since you said money is a concern. That doxycycline work good though
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IMO information should be available to EVERYONE. What you do with this information is up to you.
We will see more natural selection in which case..
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"jelfa = omnadren.... that is dirty gear....!! it's from poland and they are not very strict there concerning sterility.. "
hahaha what? I come from Poland and I can guarantee you Jelfa meets every international standard regarding their products sterility. Poland is a member of European Union and therefore Polish products meet every European standard there is.
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What was the stuff gene used to finally heal his acne?
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lol..... you are a steroid virgin are you?
jelfa = omnadren.... that is dirty gear....!! it's from poland and they are not very strict there concerning sterility.. thanks for confirming my point! ;D any bodybuilder with some real expertise knows this...
get your facts straight...
his acne is from dirty gear.... just like i said...
and go and use ai's or anti e's year round... sure....
that is not needed at gymrat level .... just lower test and up tren /eq/whatever compound that does not get you to hold lots of water...
and not everybody does well on high test... like i said my buddy got 5th at world masters on 25 mg of test p eod... rest of compounds were skyhigh though... ;D
how many guys have you helped with your "advice"
Buddy dirty gear is not the only cause of acne.
Thats just ridiculous and Jelfa is still pharma gear.
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Buddy dirty gear is not the only cause of acne.
Thats just ridiculous and Jelfa is still pharma gear.
where did i say dirty gear is the only reason for acne??????????
learn to read!!!
in the dudes case it is dirty gear as he uses brazilian underground gear as he mentioned.. again read before you say something.. ;)
to the polish fella:
as far as the jelfa goes... OMNADREN = CRAP!
all my friends in the netherlands wont touch that crap because it gives 80% of the users acne and rashes...
it is NOT produced under the same conditions as sustanon for example...
poland is a shithole, it has joined the EU yes.... so?? so did Greece.. lol.. another shithole...
that means nothing... and if Poland is doing so well, why are all these polish people working in the Netherlands, Germany etc etc.. Poland is far far far away from a First world Country...
btw omnadren is sold for half of what a testoviron or sustanon is sold for... WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?????
because it is CRAP!!!
also has a crap testosterone ester which makes one hold water like nothing...
CRAP... hope this helps....
btw no hard feelings.. you are just wrong and i am right... ;D ;D ;D
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where did i say dirty gear is the only reason for acne??????????
learn to read!!!
in the dudes case it is dirty gear as he uses brazilian underground gear as he mentioned.. again read before you say something.. ;)
to the polish fella:
as far as the jelfa goes... OMNADREN = CRAP!
all my friends in the netherlands wont touch that crap because it gives 80% of the users acne and rashes...
it is NOT produced under the same conditions as sustanon for example...
poland is a shithole, it has joined the EU yes.... so?? so did Greece.. lol.. another shithole...
that means nothing... and if Poland is doing so well, why are all these polish people working in the Netherlands, Germany etc etc.. Poland is far far far away from a First world Country...
btw omnadren is sold for half of what a testoviron or sustanon is sold for... WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?????
because it is CRAP!!!
also has a crap testosterone ester which makes one hold water like nothing...
CRAP... hope this helps....
btw no hard feelings.. you are just wrong and i am right... ;D ;D ;D
you are an idiot my friend.
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you are an idiot my friend.
lol.. at least i do not live in Poland..... ;D ;D
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no!
i said he should use 50mg eod...
why would you go and use an ai or anti e?
that is only for a show... and he is weeks away from showtime!
just lower test... up tren and eq.... and add proviron... masterone would be first choice but hard to get in brazil...
he should use 50 mg testo eod and go from there!! not 100.... not at first... test should be lowered to see where that gets him...let his body get rid of all that water and then maybe slowly built test up... maybe...
let his body adjust so to speak....
trust me....
i am not gh15 but i do know what i am talking about.... ;)
he is like a buddy of mine... reacts crap on test..
my buddy did a show on just 25 mg of test p eod... tren was skyhigh and eq as well lol...!!
and hgh 4iu's a day....
got 5th at the worldchampionships.... at the masters..hard as a rock!
he was a dwarf btw 1,60... easy to fill out.... ;D
^^my brazilian super elf,, ther eis new catagory of super elfs ,, they are larger in dimention
gh15 approved
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^^my brazilian super elf,, ther eis new catagory of super elfs ,, they are larger in dimention
gh15 approved
lol... i am dutch actually....
but do live in brazil.... and have a daughter here.. so you can call me brazilian.. ;D ;D ;D
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Disgusted claims when he spoke to Vic richards many years ago, he claimed he got his size by not using test whatsoever. He actually went out of his way to stress to Jim that you should not take test at all! And that heaps of anabolics are what got him his size....lot of eq/tren/deca/dbol/drol(I think..dont remember if he mentioned drol or not).
I found this pretty interesting as I always was taught test should be the base and that high doses are the key to massive gains. Of course I shrugged it off and would buy more test cause I'm a stubborn idiot and have been brainwashed by boards about the importance of test ::) but if I could go back in time I would of bought shitloads of eq deca and tren. I mean he's fucking Vic Richards who am I to question his advice lol
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the 3 MAJOR keys to massive MUSCULAR gains as of modern bodybuild 2000 like mr flinston asking here is thr folwing
H G H
T R E N B O L O N A
A N A D R O L A
I N S U L I N A
gh15 approved
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the 3 MAJOR keys to massive MUSCULAR gains as of modern bodybuild 2000 like mr flinston asking here is thr folwing
H G H
T R E N B O L O N A
A N A D R O L A
I N S U L I N A
gh15 approved
HGH = brain
Trenbalonie fella = cock
Insulina = heart
Anadrola = ???
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insulina = SHIT that what it equals , i hate that crap ,, insulina ruined bodybuild period
but insulina is must to get up to wherr the eagle flys ,,especialy modern bodybuild
gh15 approved
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insulina = SHIT that what it equals , i hate that crap ,, insulina ruined bodybuild period
but insulina is must to get up to wherr the eagle flys ,,especialy modern bodybuild
gh15 approved
I thought you can still make pro without slin?? Do you use a lot of insluin?
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This is a problem for me too. I get acne all over my shoulders and even arms
if you can get dutasteride, give it a try - works good, maybe a little expensive but for me the side of accutane are to harsh.
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All I can say is that I'm running 50mg test p e2d and 150mg tren ace e2d right now and my body composition is getting better by the day.
No need to sky high test bro.
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Disgusted claims when he spoke to Vic richards many years ago, he claimed he got his size by not using test whatsoever. He actually went out of his way to stress to Jim that you should not take test at all! And that heaps of anabolics are what got him his size....lot of eq/tren/deca/dbol/drol(I think..dont remember if he mentioned drol or not).
I found this pretty interesting as I always was taught test should be the base and that high doses are the key to massive gains. Of course I shrugged it off and would buy more test cause I'm a stubborn idiot and have been brainwashed by boards about the importance of test ::) but if I could go back in time I would of bought shitloads of eq deca and tren. I mean he's fucking Vic Richards who am I to question his advice lol
bro i remember an interview with Vic.....
the interviewer asked him about this...
and Vic said well there is one compound which is most important and WILL result in lots of lean mass...
when the reporter asked him what that compound was Vic was silent.... lol...
but when the reporter said parabolan.... Vic said.. look i will not say that is the compound as i do not want anybody to get hurt...
but this compound is what we all take to grow lean muscle mass...
reporter , so itīs tren???? Vic : i wont confirm nor denie... lol... i will say it's not test as many believe...
and many bodybuilders i know do preps with low test and high anabolics actually...
myself as well, once did a junior show on nothing but clen+ t3 and Primobolan!! just primo.... looked decent, not spectacular but decent enough... now i think what if i would have added tren and hgh??? would be awesome... and no test at all...
test i like salt on your food... sometimes you need it , but sometimes to much can ruin the food....
again an old story that confirms gh15 his claims....
we should cherich getbig! and cherish gh15, whoever he is.... it's not even important who he is...
his info is spot on!
and he has great taste in music and woman 8) 8) 8)
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insulina = SHIT that what it equals , i hate that crap ,, insulina ruined bodybuild period
but insulina is must to get up to wherr the eagle flys ,,especialy modern bodybuild
gh15 approved
Hey god, I have a question.
Insulin without GH is a waste and makes you fat right?
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Hey god, I have a question.
Insulin without GH is a waste and makes you fat right?
i am no god.... but will answer anyway lol..
yes... insulin without gh will only make you fat...
insulin is crap anyway....
bodybuild without it please.... you will not go anywhere in modern day bodybuilding... but who wants that anyway!
you want to be bodybuilding to look your best, right???? so why use fucking insulin? to look like a pregnant caveman????
hgh + steroids... = great body... add insulin and you get bigger yes, will get to pro size yes... but look like crap to....
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i am no god.... but will answer anyway lol..
yes... insulin without gh will only make you fat...
insulin is crap anyway....
bodybuild without it please.... you will not go anywhere in modern day bodybuilding... but who wants that anyway!
you want to be bodybuilding to look your best, right???? so why use fucking insulin? to look like a pregnant caveman????
hgh + steroids... = great body... add insulin and you get bigger yes, will get to pro size yes... but look like crap to....
I know, i agree with you.
Insulin = gorilla/turtle belly lol.
Gotta love classic bodybuilding 8)
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I know, i agree with you.
Insulin = gorilla/turtle belly lol.
Gotta love classic bodybuilding 8)
yesssss
you want to know what megadosing slin and hgh does for a body....
2 words KING KAMALI...
looked decent as a amateur... good physique when he turned pro...
then after he upped the dose, all that grew was his gut, joints, and a little bigger overall... he could not pull it ok because of his frame....looks apalling now.....
ronnie was the same just could pull it because superior frame... but same things happened
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OptimusPrime is one of the better posters I have seen on getbig in a long time ....dude knows his shit.
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OptimusPrime is one of the better posters I have seen on getbig in a long time ....dude knows his shit.
;D thanx bro...
a lot is just thinking logical though...
and ped's... yes it's kind of my hobby... seeing a body transform is very cool....
i myself never won a big show... but a lot of my friends have...
i saw very early it was all drugs... kinda ruined the competition aspect of it for me.. lol!
i just like to be somewhat trained and big... but what i love is the science behind the bodybuilding...
and i love getbig.... the honesty... only forum that spills the truth....
raw and how it is.... gh15 started the trend..... what he says is really true... i know pro's.... know what they take....seen things... sick stuff! also funny things.. scary things ... lol!
i wish i had all this info available to me when i was in my teens!
it's gold man..... gold...!
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;D thanx bro...
a lot is just thinking logical though...
and ped's... yes it's kind of my hobby... seeing a body transform is very cool....
i myself never won a big show... but a lot of my friends have...
i saw very early it was all drugs... kinda ruined the competition aspect of it for me.. lol!
i just like to be somewhat trained and big... but what i love is the science behind the bodybuilding...
and i love getbig.... the honesty... only forum that spills the truth....
raw and how it is.... gh15 started the trend..... what he says is really true... i know pro's.... know what they take....seen things... sick stuff! also funny things.. scary things ... lol!
i wish i had all this info available to me when i was in my teens!
it's gold man..... gold...!
Bring on the "sick stuff,funny things and scary things"
Love to read that shite.
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i think you guys should read a little more up on hormones
http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?29-Hormone-Primers
http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?119-testosterone-boost-101
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i think you guys should read a little more up on hormones
http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?29-Hormone-Primers
http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/content.php?119-testosterone-boost-101
i think you should just go back to "musclechatroom.com" and bother people there...
this is the THUNDERDOME... honest and raw info here.. can't take it? don't like it?
FUCK OFF.... ;D
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ok mr expert,stop giving out misinformation and dangerous info,....you think you know how hormonal pathways flow,dude,stop posting dangerous info ok...go and learn kid..your a dreamer..ignorant
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ok mr expert,stop giving out misinformation and dangerous info,....you think you know how hormonal pathways flow,dude,stop posting dangerous info ok...go and learn kid..your a dreamer..ignorant
ahahhah, dude, everybody knows what this stuff does. Every single bodybuilder on this forum, knows more about hormones than a average doctor. Everybody knows that acne comes with high Estradiol, and DHT. ALL THAT shit that its on the website you linked
DONīt go trust internet talking SHIT about hormones, why? Because the info you get from most sites,TV,magezines, THEYRE ALL FAKE. They CANīT study steroids hormones on university, all the doctors around the world claim are FAKE, not the true shit, cause they arent alowed to do research on people. We havenīt ANY long term research on steroids. So they keep telling lies to people that you heart gonna explode or something.
As any, ANY, ANY! Drug, Steroids may have side effects, that can be controled.
Go dream, and keep believing in what u read on the midia, ignorant. here on this board we guys doing it for 30 years.
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ahahhah, dude, everybody knows what this stuff does. Every single bodybuilder on this forum, knows more about hormones than a average doctor. Everybody knows that acne comes with high Estradiol, and DHT. ALL THAT shit that its on the website you linked
DONīt go trust internet talking SHIT about hormones, why? Because the info you get from most sites,TV,magezines, THEYRE ALL FAKE. They CANīT study steroids hormones on university, all the doctors around the world claim are FAKE, not the true shit, cause they arent alowed to do research on people. We havenīt ANY long term research on steroids. So they keep telling lies to people that you heart gonna explode or something.
As any, ANY, ANY! Drug, Steroids may have side effects, that can be controled.
Go dream, and keep believing in what u read on the midia, ignorant. here on this board we guys doing it for 30 years.
isso ai, meu brother,
deixa essa bixona falando merda...
WE KNOW THE TRUTH.....
foll thinks he is on bb.com or something.... lol!
here on getbig we LOVE ped's!! ;D ;D ;D
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ped
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any update on the acne dude ? and as far as using dirty gear and getting acne how long would you say after you switched to good gear with it start to subside
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any update on the acne dude ? and as far as using dirty gear and getting acne how long would you say after you switched to good gear with it start to subside
no update about acne...
LOTS of progression about water retention... using AI for 4 days know (stoped test.) gonna start 50mg tomorrow EOD.
I donīt know if it was the pre-contest cutting (2x cardio day/200gram carb per day.) or my body throwing all that water off, but I lost about 2 kilos this week. Looking better on mirror too.
Still waiting for B5 arrives for acne.
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no update about acne...
LOTS of progression about water retention... using AI for 4 days know (stoped test.) gonna start 50mg tomorrow EOD.
I donīt know if it was the pre-contest cutting (2x cardio day/200gram carb per day.) or my body throwing all that water off, but I lost about 2 kilos this week. Looking better on mirror too.
Still waiting for B5 arrives for acne.
you dropped the test..... that is why you are loosing fluid.... see ??? it works... lol!
once you are lean and in shape, slowly experiment with testP.. 50 mg eod.... as a start...
and when real lean buy the HEMO! 8)
nice you got results so soon....
acne will be fine... drink plenty of water.... pineapple juice ....
and go in the sun!!! brazil has lots of it lol!! helps wonders!
abracos!
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haha good to see your losing the water :P i need to order some b5 myself anyone order from puritan for vitamins?
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haha good to see your losing the water :P i need to order some b5 myself anyone order from puritan for vitamins?
well Ive order some B5 from iherb.com, since they ship to any country is B5 is pretty difficult to get here. From "Now foods" supz.
Little update, since Ive droped test, and putted some AI, this was my chest training yesterday, my shoulders are beginning to have the separations it should have, still a lot of water to go. Sorry for the pic quality, took it from cellphone.
I should go see my doctor to get some accutane too. I know my acne is mostly from bunk shit, but i need to clean that fast, since I'm 15 weeks out.
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well Ive order some B5 from iherb.com, since they ship to any country is B5 is pretty difficult to get here. From "Now foods" supz.
Little update, since Ive droped test, and putted some AI, this was my chest training yesterday, my shoulders are beginning to have the separations it should have, still a lot of water to go. Sorry for the pic quality, took it from cellphone.
I should go see my doctor to get some accutane too. I know my acne is mostly from bunk shit, but i need to clean that fast, since I'm 15 weeks out.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/crosse.jpg
Iherb is a great online site. I also buy my B5 from them and it actually works for acne. I use from 4g-7g depending on when I see myself starting to break out. It actually keeps your skin from not getting oily and makes your pores smaller.
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Roacutan, 20mg every day.