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Title: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: goomba420 on January 07, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141178891

 :D

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Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: apply85 on January 07, 2012, 04:51:12 PM
good genetics imo
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: US MUSL on January 07, 2012, 04:51:20 PM
Looks like he aged 5 years in 8 weeks.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: flinstones1 on January 07, 2012, 05:02:37 PM
good genetics imo

lol your 5'8 and Asian...anyone  has good genetics in your case
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: bradistani on January 07, 2012, 05:03:06 PM
17  ??? christ !! these fucks just want it all now, now, now. why work hard and start with a solid base when you get results that'd normally take years, in just a matter of months  ???
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Nirvana on January 07, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
easy come easy go
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: TrapsMcLats on January 07, 2012, 05:11:24 PM
He didn't need roids for those results.  Moron... He should've spent 8 months with heavy benching, squats, deads, rows, pullsups, clean and press, curls, cg bench, and an ab wheel...hed look better, actually.

Oh, and a fatty burrito after every workout...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: jdooly on January 07, 2012, 05:30:05 PM
...all Shakeweight and BCAA's. ;D
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Hulkotron on January 07, 2012, 05:34:01 PM
Arms look bigger, hard to tell really.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: jubaredondo on January 07, 2012, 05:40:34 PM
could waited more, at this age, nobody really knows nothing about training
papa should be proud with the money he earned for his highschool virgin son is going to steroids.
This break my idea of family code of honor.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: arce1988 on January 07, 2012, 07:02:48 PM
 start after age 21
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: el numero uno on January 07, 2012, 07:03:42 PM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141178891

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Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Bevo on January 07, 2012, 07:05:50 PM
lol your 5'8 and Asian...anyone  has good genetics in your case



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA saids the guy who paid Taylor for advice and roids!!!!!
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: el numero uno on January 07, 2012, 07:40:13 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA saids the guy who paid Taylor for advice and roids!!!!!

LMAO!!!
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: pillowtalk on January 07, 2012, 08:15:18 PM

 saids the guy who paid Taylor for advice and roids!!!!!
THIS^^^^

PT
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: WillGrant on January 07, 2012, 08:17:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vkUc6.jpg)
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: The Grim Lifter on January 07, 2012, 08:21:30 PM
Someone send him a link to the Pat Banya thread to show what he can achieve with just hard work
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 07, 2012, 08:22:14 PM
Anyone have Lee "Liar" Priest or Shawn "coke machine" Ray's 17 year old photo's?
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: apply85 on January 07, 2012, 08:36:45 PM
lol, flint paid someone named taylor for advice and/or roids!!!
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: supernick on January 07, 2012, 08:52:14 PM
this shit makes me sick.. Unless you seariously plan on going pro.  There is no rerason to start at 17. lazyness at its finest.  Hope his daddy finds out and spanks the living shit out of him in front of his friends. >:(
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: SF1900 on January 07, 2012, 08:54:36 PM
haha, what an idiot
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Figo on January 08, 2012, 12:31:39 AM
Anyone have Lee "Liar" Priest or Shawn "coke machine" Ray's 17 year old photo's?
at 17, priest, ray, de mayo, vic richards, gaspari and others were monsters

They had people train them properly, they ate and took real doses of real gear, plus amazing response and good structures
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Jovo on January 08, 2012, 12:44:12 AM
thaat kid id 500 mg of test for 8 weeks, went from 160- 190, wouldnt say thats too shabby.. wonder what he would have looked like with 14 weeks of test + deca
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: freespirit on January 08, 2012, 12:45:39 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vkUc6.jpg)

His twin sister.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: closeline on January 08, 2012, 02:00:30 AM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141178891

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this is like most pros started

could be mr o in 10yrs
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 02:05:16 AM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141178891

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Congrats! Haha!

Dumbass!
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: DK II on January 08, 2012, 02:07:20 AM
Congrats! Haha!

Dumbass!

You did the same thing at 17, dumbass.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 02:16:59 AM
You did the same thing at 17, dumbass.
Where did u hear that?  ;D

Started at 19, won two shows before that...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: DK II on January 08, 2012, 02:18:25 AM
Where did u hear that?  ;D

Started at 19, won two shows before that...

Wow, big difference.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Well, let's wait another 20 years and then compare if that kid will abuse steroids, insulin, HGH and other shit as badly as you do.


Kind of ironic, you making fun of people who take steroids.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Figo on January 08, 2012, 02:22:27 AM
Where did u hear that?  ;D

Started at 19, won two shows before that...
what was your first cycle steve?
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 02:24:26 AM
Wow, big difference.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Well, let's wait another 20 years and then compare if that kid will abuse steroids, insulin, HGH and other shit as badly as you do.


Kind of ironic, you making fun of people who take steroids.  ::) ::)
HUGE difference
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 02:25:14 AM
what was your first cycle steve?
150mg T. Prop + 150 mg Winstrol depot per week for 6 weeks.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Jovo on January 08, 2012, 02:31:49 AM
150mg T. Prop + 150 mg Winstrol depot per week for 6 weeks.
im not an expert by any means but doesnt the body produce more than the equivalent of 150 mg test a week by its self ?
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: ChevChelios on January 08, 2012, 02:36:23 AM
Nope,barely 100 mg in lucky individuals ;)
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Jovo on January 08, 2012, 02:41:50 AM
Nope,barely 100 mg in lucky individuals ;)
so if i did 14 weeks on 300 mg i could make some good gainz ?
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: StanZoLOL on January 08, 2012, 02:52:32 AM
Nope,barely 100 mg in lucky individuals ;)

Wrong, 100 will put most people in the middle of normal range. There are naturals who produe in the high end of normal range obviously....
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Bobby on January 08, 2012, 03:22:59 AM
im not an expert by any means but doesnt the body produce more than the equivalent of 150 mg test a week by its self ?

NO! the body produces way less than that
+ he has 150mg win there, so 300mg total per week is definitely more than a natural.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Jovo on January 08, 2012, 03:28:04 AM
NO! the body produces way less than that
+ he has 150mg win there, so 300mg total per week is definitely more than a natural.
yea but his own production gets shut down...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: DK II on January 08, 2012, 03:29:26 AM
yea but his own production gets shut down...

 ::) ::) ::)

Wtf does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Jovo on January 08, 2012, 03:37:51 AM
::) ::) ::)

Wtf does that have to do with anything?
it means he is barely above what a natty guy has in terms of test levels ?
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: wes on January 08, 2012, 03:47:39 AM
Natural test levels are off the chain at 17.............generatio n nothingness!
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Figo on January 08, 2012, 03:48:20 AM
150mg T. Prop + 150 mg Winstrol depot per week for 6 weeks.
and you already looked like something by then, I mean at a more advanced level than the bbing.com guy?
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: DK II on January 08, 2012, 05:43:12 AM
it means he is barely above what a natty guy has in terms of test levels ?

Oh maybe you shouldn't believe Steve's bullshit stories in the first place.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 08, 2012, 05:53:16 AM
Oh maybe you shouldn't believe Steve's bullshit stories in the first place.

yeah, like what gh15 told us about these liars, whatever they tell you times it by 3
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: DK II on January 08, 2012, 05:55:28 AM
yeah, like what gh15 told us about these liars, whatever they tell you times it by 3

good rule of thumb.

Too bad Steve chose to go from being honest to bullshitting around.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Jovo on January 08, 2012, 06:08:31 AM
yeah, like what gh15 told us about these liars, whatever they tell you times it by 3
yea i know , i just didnt want to come off as an ass hole since im new here
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: DK II on January 08, 2012, 06:10:42 AM
yea i know , i just didnt want to come off as an ass hole since im new here

No worries, everyone here's an asshole.

If you're not, you won't survive very long.

And now fuck off this thread, it's for veterans with over 2000 posts only.  :o :o :o



 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 08, 2012, 06:19:39 AM
yea i know , i just didnt want to come off as an ass hole since im new here

Welcome to the Thunderdome bitch ;D

Liars, fake naturals, twinks, fat kunts, Goodrum, and pussies are all fair game here, flame away ;)
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: jaejonna on January 08, 2012, 09:41:08 AM
Responds better than Tbombz
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Hulkotron on January 08, 2012, 09:46:11 AM
Maybe he doesn't like doing shrugs.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Dreadlifter on January 08, 2012, 09:49:49 AM
Kid wasted his money. If that's all gear did for him, i'm disappointed on his behalf.

I find it hard to believe he couldn't have achieved the same in a slightly longer timeframe clean.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: MrBigandCut on January 08, 2012, 09:59:50 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vkUc6.jpg)

8th week on the pill!! ;D
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: deceiver on January 08, 2012, 10:00:52 AM
Of course 150mg of propionate/week puts you way above natural levels.

Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 74.0792

let P = 288/(277+74) ~= 80%

so t = P*150 = 120mg. 120mg per week is about 17mg per day, which is way above any natural production. We don't live in ideal world but at best you produce say 8mg per day, so to make it equal upper range of natural range it would require above 50% waste factor which is highly unlikely.

50mg of prop eod for 8 weeks was considered normal beginner cycle back then in Poland and people had great results with it. I think some of you exaggerate doses greatly. I know guys who looked awesome using 100mg of prop eod and 30mg of wins everyday... and please, they weren't lying, they were consulting the fucking cycle with me.

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/38779_114817375235131_100001206080055_110563_3731355_n.jpg)

this is physique on cycle mentioned before, no tren, no gh, boldenone, cypionate (below 500mg) and then prop+wins.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Stavios on January 08, 2012, 10:15:52 AM
kid had good results

Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 08, 2012, 11:30:46 AM
lot of bullshit advice here.... as always...
this is a bodybuilding board , no?
bodybuilders use steroids , dont they?
man, if i knew what i know now, back when i was 16 .... i would start hitting it hard back then! lol!
arnold started when he was 14.... please tell him to his face that he did it all wrong....  ;D ;D ;D
lee priest
rich gaspari
berry de mey
all hitting it hard from early teens....
fairly common..... and you would think on a bb board they would understand...
havent looked at the pics of the dude... but i was just surprized by some of the reactions...
building a base???? lol.. natural???
a base is built with STEROIDS!!!!

Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 11:35:59 AM
yeah, like what gh15 told us about these liars, whatever they tell you times it by 3
What u can't understand guys...its all about the foundation.

Before I started gear at 19 I already had a great foundation. Size and even bigger strength. I was 200 at 5'7" in the offseason...and I won the Junior Hungarian Nationals.

Similar thing now...I'm using 300 mg Prop a week...nothing else and I'm lookin great (not as a Mr. Olympia competitor of course)...and that because I already have a great foundation in size and strength, also using gear on and off since 2003.

If u gonna give 300 mg Prop a week to an average fella...almost nothing gonna happen... Anybody using more in the gyms...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: flinstones1 on January 08, 2012, 11:41:22 AM
steve the more you make posts like this the more fans you loose in the process. Honestly I find the above post just flat out disrespectful to us, cause your basicly telling us that you think we're idiots.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 11:42:23 AM
steve the more you make posts like this the more fans you loose in the process. Honestly I find the above post just flat out disrespectful to us, cause your basicly telling us that you think we're idiots.
I don't know what the hell are u talkin about
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 11:43:45 AM
steve the more you make posts like this the more fans you loose in the process. Honestly I find the above post just flat out disrespectful to us, cause your basicly telling us that you think we're idiots.
Also I don't think ur idiots but what I'm sayin is 99% of the posters have no clue about bodybuilding...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: wes on January 08, 2012, 11:44:08 AM
yea i know , i just didnt want to come off as an ass hole since im new here
Too late!!  ;D
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: e.coli on January 08, 2012, 11:51:10 AM
Steve is right.

If you have good foundation you are gonna make good progress when you touch gear. Now with GH15 everyone thinks that drug will make them Mr. Olympia, you need to understand how the body works before taking drugs  and you need to train good naturally and have the foundation.

I believe Steve when he said he started at 19.

In my opinion people should not take drugs before at least 3 years of natural training.

Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 11:54:09 AM
Steve is right.

If you have good foundation you are gonna make good progress when you touch gear. Now with GH15 everyone thinks that drug will make them Mr. Olympia, you need to understand how the body works before taking drugs  and you need to train good naturally and have the foundation.

I believe Steve when he said he started at 19.

In my opinion people should not take drugs before at least 3 years of natural training.


Right on.

Also I started to use gear because I wanted to be a pro. Not maybe...that was my goal no matter what! Otherwise I would have wait for several more years. Started training at 15...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: wes on January 08, 2012, 11:56:33 AM
It`s not hard to maintain a decent physique with small doses.............I said maintain,not contest condition or huge size,but in shape and muscular.

Done it myself a zillion times so I believe Steve.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 08, 2012, 12:01:20 PM
What u can't understand guys...its all about the foundation.

Before I started gear at 19 I already had a great foundation. Size and even bigger strength. I was 200 at 5'7" in the offseason...and I won the Junior Hungarian Nationals.

Similar thing now...I'm using 300 mg Prop a week...nothing else and I'm lookin great (not as a Mr. Olympia competitor of course)...and that because I already have a great foundation in size and strength, also using gear on and off since 2003.

If u gonna give 300 mg Prop a week to an average fella...almost nothing gonna happen... Anybody using more in the gyms...
you seem like a nice dude.... but please do not insult us...
300 mg of prop? ::) ::) ::) ::) yeah right after a 3 month hgh blast.... with 25 iu's a day...
you are not superhuman... and 200 pounds at your height???? never ever never !! only on drugs...
stop lying.... we do not believe you... well some do..... poor fellas......

Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: e.coli on January 08, 2012, 12:04:44 PM
What is sad is that now people think you can only have muscle with drugs.. Forget to focus on the drugs for a moment and start to focus on the training and the diet. Sure drugs do a lot. But you don't need them at 17 years old.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: patbanya on January 08, 2012, 12:07:07 PM
Someone send him a link to the Pat Banya thread to show what he can achieve with just hard work

This.  Someone really should enlighten this young man.  I would be more than happy to. :)
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 12:09:56 PM
you seem like a nice dude.... but please do not insult us...
300 mg of prop? ::) ::) ::) ::) yeah right after a 3 month hgh blast.... with 25 iu's a day...
you are not superhuman... and 200 pounds at your height???? never ever never !! only on drugs...
stop lying.... we do not believe you... well some do..... poor fellas......


I'm 217-220 now loser...wanna be 205 tho...started dieting.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 08, 2012, 12:13:59 PM
What is sad is that now people think you can only have muscle with drugs.. Forget to focus on the drugs for a moment and start to focus on the training and the diet. Sure drugs do a lot. But you don't need them at 17 years old.
after 2 years of natural training you STOP!!!! stop growing.....
all the diets in the world and fancy training will not change a thing....
and when competing , and dieting hard as a natural.. you will loose a lot of mass.... i did it ... once...lol.. after that i went straight to the dealer and got my first cycle...
a base is built with good ole fashion roids!
sooner you start the better.... arnold knew that, lee the lier knew it.... rich knew it... and Steve knows it....
they do not tell you... because they do not want you to be like them.. they want to feel unique, superhuman... a mutant....
but they are not....
anybody can be a pro.... sizewise...

Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 08, 2012, 12:16:05 PM
I'm 217-220 now loser...wanna be 205 tho...started dieting.
well that changes it all..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: e.coli on January 08, 2012, 12:18:54 PM
after 2 years of natural training you STOP!!!! stop growing.....
all the diets in the world and fancy training will not change a thing....
and when competing , and dieting hard as a natural.. you will loose a lot of mass.... i did it ... once...lol.. after that i went straight to the dealer and got my first cycle...
a base is built with good ole fashion roids!
sooner you start the better.... arnold knew that, lee the lier knew it.... rich knew it... and Steve knows it....
they do not tell you... because they do not want you to be like them.. they want to feel unique, superhuman... a mutant....
but they are not....
anybody can be a pro.... sizewise...



This is wrong, very wrong. At 17 years old you can grow until 25 years old naturally.



Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: j3di3 on January 08, 2012, 12:20:21 PM
after 2 years of natural training you STOP!!!! stop growing.....
all the diets in the world and fancy training will not change a thing....
and when competing , and dieting hard as a natural.. you will loose a lot of mass.... i did it ... once...lol.. after that i went straight to the dealer and got my first cycle...
a base is built with good ole fashion roids!
sooner you start the better.... arnold knew that, lee the lier knew it.... rich knew it... and Steve knows it....
they do not tell you... because they do not want you to be like them.. they want to feel unique, superhuman... a mutant....
but they are not....
anybody can be a pro.... sizewise...



i think some people are delusional regarding their natural progress.
they think if they gained some weight on the scales it automatically translates into muscular gain.
i highly doubt the dude on the first page would get those results after 5 years of training.
after 2 maybe 3 years no more progress
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 08, 2012, 12:23:05 PM
This is wrong, very wrong. At 17 years old you can grow until 25 years old naturally.




in lenght yes.. and on the scale.... conditioned muscle no!
2 different things...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on January 08, 2012, 12:23:24 PM
I started at 16. Don't have more mass now than at 19. Am stronger though.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: wes on January 08, 2012, 12:23:31 PM
After two years of so called training,most people truly have no idea what they are doing yet.

It takes a good while to learn how your body responds plus it takes time to learn how to train hard.

Who here knew exactly what to do when they started?

For me,I know I wasted a lot of time training in the beginning because I knew jackshit and when I thought I was training hard,I wasn`t even scratching the surface.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 08, 2012, 12:31:08 PM
omg... here we go again.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
yesssss..... you can be a natural freak... like steve at 5'7 and be 220 pounds...
only 300 mg of test p...
flex competed natural at the O....
skip is natural
layne is natural
and this pat banho dude as well..... lol...
some people her know the truth though....
stupid discussion over and over again....
i am off.... lol...gonna watch grass grow... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Bevo on January 08, 2012, 02:09:56 PM
Steve claiming "5'7" hahaha lucky if he is barely 5'5!!

Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 02:16:55 PM
Steve claiming "5'7" hahaha lucky if he is barely 5'5!!


Do we know each other...?
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 08, 2012, 02:18:32 PM
Steve claiming "5'7" hahaha lucky if he is barely 5'5!!



He's 5'7" with Nike Shoxx on
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Parker on January 08, 2012, 02:23:01 PM
this shit makes me sick.. Unless you seariously plan on going pro.  There is no rerason to start at 17. lazyness at its finest.  Hope his daddy finds out and spanks the living shit out of him in front of his friends. >:(
He looks like a dork---a dork who wants attention and females...
Instead of saving that money for college, or a new ride, or whatever 17 yr old spend money on (speakers, iPod, etc), he spends it on roids, to look a little bigger than what he was---which he could have achieved w/o the drugs.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 02:26:37 PM
He's 5'7" with Nike Shoxx on
Fuckin hate those shoes!
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 03:20:27 PM
omg... here we go again.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
yesssss..... you can be a natural freak... like steve at 5'7 and be 220 pounds...
only 300 mg of test p...
flex competed natural at the O....
skip is natural
layne is natural
and this pat banho dude as well..... lol...
some people her know the truth though....
stupid discussion over and over again....
i am off.... lol...gonna watch grass grow... ;D ;D ;D

It's not about the weight...it's about the look...

I'm 217-220 now...not natural... Lookin pretty good...

I could stop that 300mg Prop/week...eat pizza all day and be 260 natural fatass...

Or I could start Prop-Tren-Primo-Mast-Var-Proviron-Arimidex-T3-Clen-Winny-GH combo and be 195 in 8 weeks and win a 212 show...

But I rather keep dieting lightly...train intense...keep the 300 mg T Prop/week...and reach the 205 pretty ripped and full...

How about that?
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: ironneck on January 08, 2012, 03:27:19 PM
man im looking forward to next month when im gonna put them syringes in my gluteus maximus
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 08, 2012, 03:43:08 PM
It's not about the weight...it's about the look...

I'm 217-220 now...not natural... Lookin pretty good...

I could stop that 300mg Prop/week...eat pizza all day and be 260 natural fatass...

Or I could start Prop-Tren-Primo-Mast-Var-Proviron-Arimidex-T3-Clen-Winny-GH combo and be 195 in 8 weeks and win a 212 show...

But I rather keep dieting lightly...train intense...keep the 300 mg T Prop/week...and reach the 205 pretty ripped and full...

How about that?
yes i agree it's about the look....
but 215ish at your height in good shape, on 300mg of test prop.... ;D ;D ;D
moment you go of hgh.... you loose it all... lol...
come on...... you know how it works...
215 at 5'6... i don't believe 5'7 lol.... that is pretty fucking big bro....
if you are 215 and a fatass..... i believe you.... if you are lean and in shape... your talking out of your ass,... ;)
still think you're a cool dude though.....
and great physique when you competed... but why compete anymore??? no $$$$$ in it.....
or no plans to compete anymore??

Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Bevo on January 08, 2012, 03:45:50 PM
Do we know each other...?


Certainly not next to the ice machine...If that is what you are referring to.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 03:52:24 PM
yes i agree it's about the look....
but 215ish at your height in good shape, on 300mg of test prop.... ;D ;D ;D
moment you go of hgh.... you loose it all... lol...
come on...... you know how it works...
215 at 5'6... i don't believe 5'7 lol.... that is pretty fucking big bro....
if you are 215 and a fatass..... i believe you.... if you are lean and in shape... your talking out of your ass,... ;)
still think you're a cool dude though.....
and great physique when you competed... but why compete anymore??? no $$$$$ in it.....
or no plans to compete anymore??


I'm in pretty good shape...but since I competed (2010 June-Sept) I lost muscle of course... I don't care about it tho. So now I'm like 217 now...I would be like 190 onstage now (so I'm not super lean now of course)... I was 195 in 2010.

I can maintain this easily with 300 mg Prop/week and like 4 meals a day... I'm not measuring anything but I think it's like 200 g protein and maybe 250 carbs a day...I have no clue tho.

Not planning to compete now...it's a fuckin stupid thing to be honest... I spent $1000-$1500 a month on bodybuilding in 2010 for like 6 months. But it looks like I should spend like $2500 a month to be one of the best in the 212 class...

Are u kidding me...not gonna do that... I wanna do...that's what my heart and ego tells me... But I'm not stupid.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Bevo on January 08, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
Thought you got all your gear for free from sponsors. If bboy could do it I thought at least you too. What a sport, all for a plastic trophy that isn't even guaranteed. What a joke!!
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: ironneck on January 08, 2012, 03:57:52 PM
another pro destroyed by getbig
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 04:01:32 PM
Thought you got all your gear for free from sponsors. If bboy could do it I thought at least you too. What a sport, all for a plastic trophy that isn't even guaranteed. What a joke!!
Got a few emails from noname UG labs about getting gear for free...

I don't wanna use even some great gear now...so especially not some noname gear... I don't wanna sell it either...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: tom joad on January 08, 2012, 04:06:00 PM
What u can't understand guys...its all about the foundation.

Before I started gear at 19 I already had a great foundation. Size and even bigger strength. I was 200 at 5'7" in the offseason...and I won the Junior Hungarian Nationals.

Similar thing now...I'm using 300 mg Prop a week...nothing else and I'm lookin great (not as a Mr. Olympia competitor of course)...and that because I already have a great foundation in size and strength, also using gear on and off since 2003.

If u gonna give 300 mg Prop a week to an average fella...almost nothing gonna happen... Anybody using more in the gyms...

i find it funny when somebody preaches about the importance of having a solid foundation and then they proudly declare that they didn't start using gear until reaching 19 years of age.  so juicing as a teenager is wise?  :-\
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 04:07:54 PM
i find it funny when somebody preaches about the importance of having a solid foundation and then they proudly declare that they didn't start using gear until reaching 19 years of age.  so juicing as a teenager is wise?  :-\
If u wanna be one of the best on the world...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 04:14:38 PM
Some other pics from my very first show. 2002.

I just turned 19. Natural, with 3.5 years of training. I didn't know a lot about dieting either. No fat burners, no diuretics. About 170 lbs.

Won the Hungarian Junior Nationals, 2nd (from 3) in mens open, 10th in National Overall.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 04:15:45 PM
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Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 04:17:34 PM
Once again...

I'm not tryin to prove anything, I just wanna show that if I could do that at 19...with 3.5 years of hard training and lots of food...OK and good genetics... Then why would anybody start juicing at 18 to look better on his facebook profile...?

Fuckin lazy bastards!
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: The Grim Lifter on January 08, 2012, 04:18:37 PM
Once again...

I'm not tryin to prove anything, I just wanna show that if I could do that at 19...with 3.5 years of hard training and lots of food...OK and good genetics... Then why would anybody start juicing at 18 to look better on his facebook profile...?

Fuckin lazy bastards!

Facebook is serious business
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: ironneck on January 08, 2012, 04:19:16 PM
whats so wrong with making it easier
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 08, 2012, 04:22:19 PM
I'm in pretty good shape...but since I competed (2010 June-Sept) I lost muscle of course... I don't care about it tho. So now I'm like 217 now...I would be like 190 onstage now (so I'm not super lean now of course)... I was 195 in 2010.

I can maintain this easily with 300 mg Prop/week and like 4 meals a day... I'm not measuring anything but I think it's like 200 g protein and maybe 250 carbs a day...I have no clue tho.

Not planning to compete now...it's a fuckin stupid thing to be honest... I spent $1000-$1500 a month on bodybuilding in 2010 for like 6 months. But it looks like I should spend like $2500 a month to be one of the best in the 212 class...

Are u kidding me...not gonna do that... I wanna do...that's what my heart and ego tells me... But I'm not stupid.
hgh is helluva drug.... even at 4iu's a day... 8)
well bro at least you're smart.....not chasing some dream.... and your hart and ego tell you your a bodybuilder... well you are! funny thing is that last 5 pounds of muscle you need to have, in order to compete with the top.... will cost you the most.... lol...
imo NOT worth it....
better to look great and feel great and make great money and have a great life!  8)
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 04:22:44 PM
whats so wrong with making it easier
For teenagers???

But even for adults...

Start juicing let say at 30... Benching 185 in the last set, squat with the same... Really??? Great foundation...I see this every day at the gym. So stupid.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: QuakerOats on January 08, 2012, 04:24:04 PM
hgh is helluva drug.... even at 4iu's a day... 8)
well bro at least you're smart.....not chasing some dream.... and your hart and ego tell you your a bodybuilder... well you are! funny thing is that last 5 pounds of muscle you need to have, in order to compete with the top.... will cost you the most.... lol...
imo NOT worth it....
better to look great and feel great and make great money and have a great life!  8)

at least hes not sucking schmoe dick for GH money and you have to give him credit for that, most pros do that.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 08, 2012, 04:28:00 PM
hgh is helluva drug.... even at 4iu's a day... 8)
well bro at least you're smart.....not chasing some dream.... and your hart and ego tell you your a bodybuilder... well you are! funny thing is that last 5 pounds of muscle you need to have, in order to compete with the top.... will cost you the most.... lol...
imo NOT worth it....
better to look great and feel great and make great money and have a great life!  8)

I have to agree with you even that I wanted to be the next Levrone...  :-\


Maybe it was a wrong dream... But bodybuilding made me much stronger and a much better person.






It’s never too late to be what you might have been....
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 08, 2012, 04:34:54 PM
Once again...

I'm not tryin to prove anything, I just wanna show that if I could do that at 19...with 3.5 years of hard training and lots of food...OK and good genetics... Then why would anybody start juicing at 18 to look better on his facebook profile...?

Fuckin lazy bastards!

 ::) you are 5'5, going bald, good genetics my ass ::)

If you had the money you would be as juiced as Jose Raymondo
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 08, 2012, 04:41:05 PM
Once again...

I'm not tryin to prove anything, I just wanna show that if I could do that at 19...with 3.5 years of hard training and lots of food...OK and good genetics... Then why would anybody start juicing at 18 to look better on his facebook profile...?

Fuckin lazy bastards!
steve ..... you're a good dude...
but come on man....natural???  ::) ::) ::)
you can not fool the guys here.... this is THUNDERDOME 2012.....
well, naposim was/is not considered a drug in Romania... lol!
it's part of growing up there.... take your vitamins and napo!
terapia made some great stuff.... 8)


Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Hulkotron on January 08, 2012, 04:42:28 PM
Steve is dwarfing Charlie Sheen in those stage shots.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Figo on January 09, 2012, 01:35:25 AM
Post a current pic steve


Legs come easy for you, heh? Even as a kid you already had quads
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2012, 07:36:24 AM
Post a current pic steve


Legs come easy for you, heh? Even as a kid you already had quads
there'a vid of him training pulsuski sp?he looks pretty big still,not his form few yrs ago ,he's in different place now in term's of outlook on bbing.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 11, 2012, 12:17:25 PM
steve ..... you're a good dude...
but come on man....natural???  ::) ::) ::)
you can not fool the guys here.... this is THUNDERDOME 2012.....
well, naposim was/is not considered a drug in Romania... lol!
it's part of growing up there.... take your vitamins and napo!
terapia made some great stuff.... 8)



I'm not from Romania.

Yes, I was natural in my first contest season. And I didn't look great, also I was only in OK shape. But maybe for u guys thats a GREAT phyisique with lots of gear. Not for me. For example that physique...tbomb...come on I dont know what the guy is using but thats totally achievable naturally too.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: ironneck on January 11, 2012, 12:49:13 PM
I'm not from Romania.

Yes, I was natural in my first contest season. And I didn't look great, also I was only in OK shape. But maybe for u guys thats a GREAT phyisique with lots of gear. Not for me. For example that physique...tbomb...come on I dont know what the guy is using but thats totally achievable naturally too.


no its not tbombz is massive homosexual! he just needs to diet down
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: funk51 on January 11, 2012, 12:59:50 PM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=141178891

 :D

(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/cauchy144/IMG_0446.jpg)

(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/cauchy144/IMG_0542.jpg)
dere goes the old blood pressure fer sure....
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: oliveiraugo on January 11, 2012, 01:02:19 PM
OptimusPrime1980 says the truth.

You all should pay attention what this guy is saying, he knows the shit!

Your size will be relative as your time ON GEAR. Period. No genetics involved.

As the pro fellow saying that hes can stay at his 220lbs  conditioned on 300 prop.

I believe you.

300 prop human grade

PLUS

500mg Tren
25ui GH
600mg equipona/nandrolone
Maybe some proviron or oximetolone

and your gtg.  8)
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Dr Dutch on January 11, 2012, 01:08:01 PM
I think it's cool you post here, Steve. Don't let all the haters get to you.

PS: I don't believe the natural story too.... ;D
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on January 11, 2012, 01:25:03 PM
I think it's cool you post here, Steve. Don't let all the haters get to you.

PS: I don't believe the natural story too.... ;D

x2. Steve is a good dude
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: arce1988 on January 11, 2012, 02:51:36 PM
  ped
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 11, 2012, 03:34:52 PM
OptimusPrime1980 says the truth.

You all should pay attention what this guy is saying, he knows the shit!

Your size will be relative as your time ON GEAR. Period. No genetics involved.

As the pro fellow saying that hes can stay at his 220lbs  conditioned on 300 prop.

I believe you.

300 prop human grade

PLUS

500mg Tren
25ui GH
600mg equipona/nandrolone
Maybe some proviron or oximetolone

and your gtg.  8)

It's all bullshit. All of it.

Or if you're joking...then hahahaha!
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 11, 2012, 03:35:36 PM
x2. Steve is a good dude
x2

 ;D
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: apply85 on January 11, 2012, 05:06:59 PM
steve is a liar, his story changes all the time, he started jucing before 19 that is for sure
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 11, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
steve is a liar, his story changes all the time, he started jucing before 19 that is for sure
Your IQ changes between 17 and 35 depending on ur energy level...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: njflex on January 11, 2012, 07:50:16 PM
Your IQ changes between 17 and 35 depending on ur energy level...
lol...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: The Grim Lifter on January 12, 2012, 12:00:46 AM
Your IQ changes between 17 and 35 depending on ur energy level...

ur wife's tits change between DDD and DDDD depending upon whether or not i want to ejaculate
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on January 12, 2012, 07:25:27 AM
x2. Steve is a good dude
yes a cool dude....
but he does lie about his use.... but they all do ... lol...
at least he posts here and doesn't melt down...   ;)
cool dude... short though.....  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: wes on January 12, 2012, 07:32:25 AM
Your IQ changes between 17 and 35 depending on ur energy level...
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: LittleJ on January 12, 2012, 07:33:23 AM
Yeah Steve's a liar but a good dude.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 12, 2012, 07:51:09 AM
Never lied about drug use.

When I did my first show in 2002 I was natural, but I won so everybody started talking about how much GH I was using...6-10 IU/day. So do u think 10 years later I'm surprised because u guys keep telling me I lied...????  ::) Sure, I'm soooo surprised...

First time I saw a GH vial was in 2004...and never used more than 5 IU/day. Did 3 IU/day in 2010 and placed 2nd at the Tampa Pro. Why not more? Didn't have more money.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: wes on January 12, 2012, 07:52:43 AM
Just what I`ve been saying....most people use way too much gear.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 12, 2012, 07:57:14 AM
Just what I`ve been saying....most people use way too much gear.
Meanwhile... I would have been better with some more gear? Yes, I'm pretty sure...  ;D Thats the main problem with this sport.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: wes on January 12, 2012, 08:05:08 AM
Meanwhile... I would have been better with some more gear? Yes, I'm pretty sure...  ;D Thats the main problem with this sport.
More is better,even if not necessary!!  :)
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: Steve Namat on January 12, 2012, 08:11:11 AM
More is better,even if not necessary!!  :)
Yes, but if u already a pro (or not even a pro), after a certain level u need a certain amount of drugs to stay competitive or win a show. And that amount is not low. At least in my eyes it's not low...
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: wes on January 12, 2012, 08:12:23 AM
Yes, but if u already a pro (or not even a pro), after a certain level u need a certain amount of drugs to stay competitive or win a show. And that amount is not low. At least in my eyes it's not low...
I definately agree.......gotta` push the envelope at times to win or place higher.
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on January 12, 2012, 08:19:29 AM
I just dont like seeing young boys with no tops on
Title: Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
Post by: wes on January 12, 2012, 08:20:06 AM
I just dont like seeing young boys with no tops on
Some guys here live for that shit!!  LOL  ;D