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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2012, 09:49:49 AM »
Kid wasted his money. If that's all gear did for him, i'm disappointed on his behalf.

I find it hard to believe he couldn't have achieved the same in a slightly longer timeframe clean.

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2012, 09:59:50 AM »

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2012, 10:00:52 AM »
Of course 150mg of propionate/week puts you way above natural levels.

Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight (ester): 74.0792

let P = 288/(277+74) ~= 80%

so t = P*150 = 120mg. 120mg per week is about 17mg per day, which is way above any natural production. We don't live in ideal world but at best you produce say 8mg per day, so to make it equal upper range of natural range it would require above 50% waste factor which is highly unlikely.

50mg of prop eod for 8 weeks was considered normal beginner cycle back then in Poland and people had great results with it. I think some of you exaggerate doses greatly. I know guys who looked awesome using 100mg of prop eod and 30mg of wins everyday... and please, they weren't lying, they were consulting the fucking cycle with me.



this is physique on cycle mentioned before, no tren, no gh, boldenone, cypionate (below 500mg) and then prop+wins.

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2012, 10:15:52 AM »
kid had good results


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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2012, 11:30:46 AM »
lot of bullshit advice here.... as always...
this is a bodybuilding board , no?
bodybuilders use steroids , dont they?
man, if i knew what i know now, back when i was 16 .... i would start hitting it hard back then! lol!
arnold started when he was 14.... please tell him to his face that he did it all wrong....  ;D ;D ;D
lee priest
rich gaspari
berry de mey
all hitting it hard from early teens....
fairly common..... and you would think on a bb board they would understand...
havent looked at the pics of the dude... but i was just surprized by some of the reactions...
building a base???? lol.. natural???
a base is built with STEROIDS!!!!

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2012, 11:35:59 AM »
yeah, like what gh15 told us about these liars, whatever they tell you times it by 3
What u can't understand guys...its all about the foundation.

Before I started gear at 19 I already had a great foundation. Size and even bigger strength. I was 200 at 5'7" in the offseason...and I won the Junior Hungarian Nationals.

Similar thing now...I'm using 300 mg Prop a week...nothing else and I'm lookin great (not as a Mr. Olympia competitor of course)...and that because I already have a great foundation in size and strength, also using gear on and off since 2003.

If u gonna give 300 mg Prop a week to an average fella...almost nothing gonna happen... Anybody using more in the gyms...

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2012, 11:41:22 AM »
steve the more you make posts like this the more fans you loose in the process. Honestly I find the above post just flat out disrespectful to us, cause your basicly telling us that you think we're idiots.
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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2012, 11:42:23 AM »
steve the more you make posts like this the more fans you loose in the process. Honestly I find the above post just flat out disrespectful to us, cause your basicly telling us that you think we're idiots.
I don't know what the hell are u talkin about

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2012, 11:43:45 AM »
steve the more you make posts like this the more fans you loose in the process. Honestly I find the above post just flat out disrespectful to us, cause your basicly telling us that you think we're idiots.
Also I don't think ur idiots but what I'm sayin is 99% of the posters have no clue about bodybuilding...

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2012, 11:44:08 AM »
yea i know , i just didnt want to come off as an ass hole since im new here
Too late!!  ;D

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2012, 11:51:10 AM »
Steve is right.

If you have good foundation you are gonna make good progress when you touch gear. Now with GH15 everyone thinks that drug will make them Mr. Olympia, you need to understand how the body works before taking drugs  and you need to train good naturally and have the foundation.

I believe Steve when he said he started at 19.

In my opinion people should not take drugs before at least 3 years of natural training.


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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2012, 11:54:09 AM »
Steve is right.

If you have good foundation you are gonna make good progress when you touch gear. Now with GH15 everyone thinks that drug will make them Mr. Olympia, you need to understand how the body works before taking drugs  and you need to train good naturally and have the foundation.

I believe Steve when he said he started at 19.

In my opinion people should not take drugs before at least 3 years of natural training.


Right on.

Also I started to use gear because I wanted to be a pro. Not maybe...that was my goal no matter what! Otherwise I would have wait for several more years. Started training at 15...

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2012, 11:56:33 AM »
It`s not hard to maintain a decent physique with small doses.............I said maintain,not contest condition or huge size,but in shape and muscular.

Done it myself a zillion times so I believe Steve.

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2012, 12:01:20 PM »
What u can't understand guys...its all about the foundation.

Before I started gear at 19 I already had a great foundation. Size and even bigger strength. I was 200 at 5'7" in the offseason...and I won the Junior Hungarian Nationals.

Similar thing now...I'm using 300 mg Prop a week...nothing else and I'm lookin great (not as a Mr. Olympia competitor of course)...and that because I already have a great foundation in size and strength, also using gear on and off since 2003.

If u gonna give 300 mg Prop a week to an average fella...almost nothing gonna happen... Anybody using more in the gyms...
you seem like a nice dude.... but please do not insult us...
300 mg of prop? ::) ::) ::) ::) yeah right after a 3 month hgh blast.... with 25 iu's a day...
you are not superhuman... and 200 pounds at your height???? never ever never !! only on drugs...
stop lying.... we do not believe you... well some do..... poor fellas......

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2012, 12:04:44 PM »
What is sad is that now people think you can only have muscle with drugs.. Forget to focus on the drugs for a moment and start to focus on the training and the diet. Sure drugs do a lot. But you don't need them at 17 years old.

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2012, 12:07:07 PM »
Someone send him a link to the Pat Banya thread to show what he can achieve with just hard work

This.  Someone really should enlighten this young man.  I would be more than happy to. :)

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2012, 12:09:56 PM »
you seem like a nice dude.... but please do not insult us...
300 mg of prop? ::) ::) ::) ::) yeah right after a 3 month hgh blast.... with 25 iu's a day...
you are not superhuman... and 200 pounds at your height???? never ever never !! only on drugs...
stop lying.... we do not believe you... well some do..... poor fellas......


I'm 217-220 now loser...wanna be 205 tho...started dieting.

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2012, 12:13:59 PM »
What is sad is that now people think you can only have muscle with drugs.. Forget to focus on the drugs for a moment and start to focus on the training and the diet. Sure drugs do a lot. But you don't need them at 17 years old.
after 2 years of natural training you STOP!!!! stop growing.....
all the diets in the world and fancy training will not change a thing....
and when competing , and dieting hard as a natural.. you will loose a lot of mass.... i did it ... once...lol.. after that i went straight to the dealer and got my first cycle...
a base is built with good ole fashion roids!
sooner you start the better.... arnold knew that, lee the lier knew it.... rich knew it... and Steve knows it....
they do not tell you... because they do not want you to be like them.. they want to feel unique, superhuman... a mutant....
but they are not....
anybody can be a pro.... sizewise...

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2012, 12:16:05 PM »
I'm 217-220 now loser...wanna be 205 tho...started dieting.
well that changes it all..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2012, 12:18:54 PM »
after 2 years of natural training you STOP!!!! stop growing.....
all the diets in the world and fancy training will not change a thing....
and when competing , and dieting hard as a natural.. you will loose a lot of mass.... i did it ... once...lol.. after that i went straight to the dealer and got my first cycle...
a base is built with good ole fashion roids!
sooner you start the better.... arnold knew that, lee the lier knew it.... rich knew it... and Steve knows it....
they do not tell you... because they do not want you to be like them.. they want to feel unique, superhuman... a mutant....
but they are not....
anybody can be a pro.... sizewise...



This is wrong, very wrong. At 17 years old you can grow until 25 years old naturally.




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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #70 on: January 08, 2012, 12:20:21 PM »
after 2 years of natural training you STOP!!!! stop growing.....
all the diets in the world and fancy training will not change a thing....
and when competing , and dieting hard as a natural.. you will loose a lot of mass.... i did it ... once...lol.. after that i went straight to the dealer and got my first cycle...
a base is built with good ole fashion roids!
sooner you start the better.... arnold knew that, lee the lier knew it.... rich knew it... and Steve knows it....
they do not tell you... because they do not want you to be like them.. they want to feel unique, superhuman... a mutant....
but they are not....
anybody can be a pro.... sizewise...



i think some people are delusional regarding their natural progress.
they think if they gained some weight on the scales it automatically translates into muscular gain.
i highly doubt the dude on the first page would get those results after 5 years of training.
after 2 maybe 3 years no more progress

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2012, 12:23:05 PM »
This is wrong, very wrong. At 17 years old you can grow until 25 years old naturally.




in lenght yes.. and on the scale.... conditioned muscle no!
2 different things...
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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #72 on: January 08, 2012, 12:23:24 PM »
I started at 16. Don't have more mass now than at 19. Am stronger though.

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #73 on: January 08, 2012, 12:23:31 PM »
After two years of so called training,most people truly have no idea what they are doing yet.

It takes a good while to learn how your body responds plus it takes time to learn how to train hard.

Who here knew exactly what to do when they started?

For me,I know I wasted a lot of time training in the beginning because I knew jackshit and when I thought I was training hard,I wasn`t even scratching the surface.

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Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results
« Reply #74 on: January 08, 2012, 12:31:08 PM »
omg... here we go again.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
yesssss..... you can be a natural freak... like steve at 5'7 and be 220 pounds...
only 300 mg of test p...
flex competed natural at the O....
skip is natural
layne is natural
and this pat banho dude as well..... lol...
some people her know the truth though....
stupid discussion over and over again....
i am off.... lol...gonna watch grass grow... ;D ;D ;D
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