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I've been maintaining for like 2 months now but I kind of want to put on a little more lean muscle with minimal water retention. Here are some pics
STATS 5'10 222LBS first thing when I wake up
(http://i43.tinypic.com/wqr6tk.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2e1zn6t.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/287gryf.jpg)
here is what I am currently on (for 14 weeks now or so)
70mg ED test prop
80mg ED tren ace
5iu ED HGH
I only have those 3 things available. I won't be ordering anything else at the moment.
I am thinking of maybe bumping HGH to 8iu ED and going up to 100mg of test prop ED (so from 490mg per week to 700mg per week)
Thoughts?
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YLLS,
HTH
sorry, dawg, just had to write this ;)
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DUDE IS THAT ACNE ALL OVER YOUR TRAPS AND UPPER CHEST?
B5 THAT SHIT TO THE GILLS, PLEASE.
AND...
DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
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YLLS,
HTH
sorry, dawg, just had to write this ;)
I knew it was coming. glad you got it out of the way brochizzle
DUDE IS THAT ACNE ALL OVER YOUR TRAPS AND UPPER CHEST?
B5 THAT SHIT TO THE GILLS, PLEASE.
AND...
DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
yea dude I get acne on my delts and have a pimple on my upper chest. the delts keep getting them though and its annoying
no lifting. drugs only
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for acne: 10% benzoyl peroxide body wash, then afterwards use 10% BP cream.
also, don't you think pinning test-prop every day is going to leave you feeling sore as hell? t-prop always feels like someone punched me in the muscle.
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GET ON SOME B5...5 GRAMS A DAY ERRYDAY. SCRUB GOOD IN THE SHOWER AND CLEAN THAT UP 2-3 TIMES A DAY WITH BENZOYL PEROXIDE. THAT'S GOT TREN WRITTEN ON ALL OVER IT BUT IT CAN BE CLEANED UP.
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ok cool my question was what should I increase and by how much? test p, tren a, hgh.
and no test p doesnt make me sore at all except when i pin quads but even that isnt too bad
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Don't do it. You're at an excellent level of development. (no homo)
Tweak as needed to maintain what you've got. Otherwise you'll turn gay...not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just that you'll be jacked and have no desire to crush any booty.
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Don't do it. You're at an excellent level of development. (no homo)
Tweak as needed to maintain what you've got. Otherwise you'll turn gay...not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just that you'll be jacked and have no desire to crush any booty.
HE MAY BE RIGHT.
WHATEVER YOU DO...UP THE AAS AND/OR GH. DONT ADD SLIN. GH AND/OR AAS. NO SLIN. YOU GOT A GREAT PHYSIQUE NO HOMO BUT YOU NEED TO START LIFTING. :D
DONT FORGET GRASS FED CREATINE.
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Don't do it. You're at an excellent level of development. (no homo)
Tweak as needed to maintain what you've got. Otherwise you'll turn gay...not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just that you'll be jacked and have no desire to crush any booty.
to be honest, I need a break from all the booty I have been getting lately. I boned 5 new girls in a 2 1/2 week period in december, with 7 for the month. I just feel like being 230lbs ripped
HE MAY BE RIGHT.
WHATEVER YOU DO...UP THE AAS AND/OR GH. DONT ADD SLIN. GH AND/OR AAS. NO SLIN. YOU GOT A GREAT PHYSIQUE NO HOMO BUT YOU NEED TO START LIFTING. :D
DONT FORGET GRASS FED CREATINE.
no I tried slin for a 4 weeks period a few months ago while maintaining and realized I just simply didnt need it. I'm just going to go with the 3 items I am currently on and need to figure out what doses to increase.
fuck lifting. i lift my video game controller from the couch
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what gh brand are you running? gh will give water retention, and so will the test so it will be hard to increase either of those since they are probably both making you hold some water already.
i would say fuck it and just up everything, water weight be damned, but if you have a specific reason why you don't want to add water, then i don't know, maybe run a diuretic or drop the test.
ok actually i just looked at your pictures and you are definitely holding water there. whats your diet look like? you can drop water weight by cutting carbs to a minimum (not too low or you'll get flat) and by cutting sodium out but cutting out sodium is real hard to do for a long period of time since your body will upregulate hormones to lower sodium excretion and increase sodium retention.
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Bump up to 100mg ED of each and 8iu GH.
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what gh brand are you running? gh will give water retention, and so will the test so it will be hard to increase either of those since they are probably both making you hold some water already.
i would say fuck it and just up everything, water weight be damned, but if you have a specific reason why you don't want to add water, then i don't know, maybe run a diuretic or drop the test.
ripstropin
Bump up to 100mg ED of each and 8iu GH.
you think? That kind of seems like a huge increase on a daily basis
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ripstropin
you think? That kind of seems like a huge increase on a daily basis
IF YOU WANT QUALITY. MOVE THAT TREN TO 125MG ED AND MOVE THAT TEST PROP TO 50MG ED AND MOVE THAT GH UP TO 8IU ED. GET FUCKING BIG.
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ripstropin
i edited that post you quoted, since i didn't really look closely at your picture before.
anyways, rips will make you hold water like a sponge. they are seriously real bad in that regard and will turn you into a bodybuilding version of a water buffalo. i'm going to bet that the rips are the culprit for your water weight.
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IF YOU WANT QUALITY. MOVE THAT TREN TO 125MG ED AND MOVE THAT TEST PROP TO 50MG ED AND MOVE THAT GH UP TO 8IU ED. GET FUCKING BIG.
tempting...
i edited that post you quoted, since i didn't really look closely at your picture before.
anyways, rips will make you hold water like a sponge. they are seriously real bad in that regard and will turn you into a bodybuilding version of a water buffalo. i'm going to bet that the rips are the culprit for your water weight.
to be fair, I hold very little water first thing in the morning. These pics weren't taken when waking up. However, I have always held water even when i was natural. But rips was tested by a lab as overdosed, so obviously they are high quality
my carbs have been at roughly 200g per day, which is under 1g per lb
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ripstropin
you think? That kind of seems like a huge increase on a daily basis
I'd blast that for like 8-12 weeks, see how you like what you're seeing and assess from there.
Test getting bumped to 100 isn't a big change--it's just test you know? And the tren is only an extra what 210mg a week? It's not a tiny jump but not massive either.
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I'd blast that for like 8-12 weeks, see how you like what you're seeing and assess from there.
Test getting bumped to 100 isn't a big change--it's just test you know? And the tren is only an extra what 210mg a week? It's not a tiny jump but not massive either.
but you were saying to go with 180mg of tren ED, not per week. And right now I am on 80mg per day. thoughts? As you can see, I am not used to running a lot of gear. I've always gotten by on a moderate amount
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Bro your fucking forehead is hugeeeeee ;D
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i thought you said something about people thinking you would look goofy if you had more muscle, or was that somebody else?
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You look pretty jacked already bro, why not dial down the sauce and try to maintain what you've got whilst improving your health?
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to be honest, I need a break from all the booty I have been getting lately. I boned 5 new girls in a 2 1/2 week period in december, with 7 for the month. I just feel like being 230lbs ripped
no I tried slin for a 4 weeks period a few months ago while maintaining and realized I just simply didnt need it. I'm just going to go with the 3 items I am currently on and need to figure out what doses to increase.
fuck lifting. i lift my video game controller from the couch
Pics of said girls.....Personally, I only bang models or else I think I have you beat with 7 new girls in 2 and 3 quarter weeks,,, BOOYAA
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AND TAKE OF THAT TMUSCLE SHIRT!
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to be fair, I hold very little water first thing in the morning.
i am the same, but that means your body is taking in a lot of water and holding a lot of water. if you eat a lot of carbs in a day or a lot of sodium your abs and lines wash out a bit don't they? next morning though your abs will look hard and separated? same deal here, it's the hgh for me because i don't run test.
These pics weren't taken when waking up. However, I have always held water even when i was natural. But rips was tested by a lab as overdosed, so obviously they are high quality
i don't want to discuss the lab results in detail out of respect for big a's wishes but you do remember what the first test results said about the rips? remember the shitstorm it caused. that's the reason why people hold so much more water on rips versus pharm grade GH, rips aren't as pure.
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Bro your fucking forehead is hugeeeeee ;D
I am one handsome mother fucker dude
i thought you said something about people thinking you would look goofy if you had more muscle, or was that somebody else?
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I don't remember. Maybe?
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more tren imo
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I am one handsome mother fucker dude
I don't remember. Maybe?
My mom used to tell me that too dude ;)
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i am the same, but that means your body is taking in a lot of water and holding a lot of water. if you eat a lot of carbs in a day or a lot of sodium your abs and lines wash out a bit don't they? next morning though your abs will look hard and separated? same deal here, it's the hgh for me because i don't run test.
i don't want to discuss the lab results in detail out of respect for big a's wishes but you do remember what the first test results said about the rips? remember the shitstorm it caused. that's the reason why people hold so much more water on rips versus pharm grade GH, rips aren't as pure.
yes I am the EXACT same way about holding water. I'll eat sodium and carbs and the next morning, very seperated.
you think holding water on rips is a matter of purity? I mean I have like 900iu left so I am not going to let it go to waste. It is well priced gh but still costs a lot
oh btw I forgot to say I am also on 25mg of proviron
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I'm thinking 100mg ED of both prop and tren, with HGH 8iu per day split in two shots. I'll also continue the 25mg proviron and 25mg EOD of caber. Maybe I'll add 12.5mg of aromasin for water and minor gyno flare ups
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yes I am the EXACT same way about holding water. I'll eat sodium and carbs and the next morning, very seperated.
you think holding water on rips is a matter of purity? I mean I have like 900iu left so I am not going to let it go to waste. It is well priced gh but still costs a lot
oh btw I forgot to say I am also on 25mg of proviron
i like rips and i'd definitely use them in the future. in my opinion they are strong as hell GH, but yes, the reason why people hold more water on rips is because they aren't as pure as pharm grade. the residual left over amino-acids that constitute the impurities, form fragments of the human growth hormone chain and cause the added side effects but not the anabolism because they didn't form into the full 191 amino acid chain. they are left in the vial because it is more costly and difficult to purify the hgh to higher purity grades.
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but you were saying to go with 180mg of tren ED, not per week. And right now I am on 80mg per day. thoughts? As you can see, I am not used to running a lot of gear. I've always gotten by on a moderate amount
No no no I meant bump up TO 100mg, not BY 100mg
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No no no I meant bump up TO 100mg, not BY 100mg
ok that makes more sense. That is pretty much what I was thinking I will do
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I've been maintaining for like 2 months now but I kind of want to put on a little more lean muscle with minimal water retention. Here are some pics
STATS 5'10 222LBS first thing when I wake up
(http://i43.tinypic.com/wqr6tk.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2e1zn6t.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/287gryf.jpg)
here is what I am currently on (for 14 weeks now or so)
70mg ED test prop
80mg ED tren ace
5iu ED HGH
I only have those 3 things available. I won't be ordering anything else at the moment.
I am thinking of maybe bumping HGH to 8iu ED and going up to 100mg of test prop ED (so from 490mg per week to 700mg per week)
Thoughts?
up the tren...!
and if you up the gh you can up the test as well...
but i would first up the tren alone if you want lean mass...
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Id say keep the test as is bump the tren to 700/ week up the gh 8-10 iu and maybe use some t3 if u can get. Once those doses are in your system for a couple weeks slowly up the carbs by like 20/day each week until you see some gains. looking great though bra
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Increase trenbologna to 200mgs ED alphamaledawggyyyy pound it bruh
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You look pretty jacked already bro, why not dial down the sauce and try to maintain what you've got whilst improving your health?
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Id say keep the test as is bump the tren to 700/ week up the gh 8-10 iu and maybe use some t3 if u can get. Once those doses are in your system for a couple weeks slowly up the carbs by like 20/day each week until you see some gains. looking great though bra
I don't have T3 but the rest is definitely something I will consider. I decided against doing more this morning when I injected but I could always slin pin the rest tonight if I choose to
Increase trenbologna to 200mgs ED alphamaledawggyyyy pound it bruh
way too much poundin homey
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I'm thinking 100mg ED of both prop and tren, with HGH 8iu per day split in two shots. I'll also continue the 25mg proviron and 25mg EOD of caber. Maybe I'll add 12.5mg of aromasin for water and minor gyno flare ups
This is the best option IMO
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This is the best option IMO
ok so I'm either gonna do this or continue maintaining. If I continue maintaining, it is for both financial and health reasons. I'm so tempted to just slin pin the rest tonight that I didn't pin this morning and get this started
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ok so I'm either gonna do this or continue maintaining. If I continue maintaining, it is for both financial and health reasons. I'm so tempted to just slin pin the rest tonight that I didn't pin this morning and get this started
looks like you meed more juice.ud prob be leamer to droppimg test amd doimg higher doses of others.
I am lobimg mo test feel more roumd all ober amd separated amd fuller while addimg leam mass.
you said you didmt rly like slim. Was it uumder twemty iu. I omly moticed it at twemty iu. Amd liked it alot.
build up that gut more. Ud look great with a mimja turtle belly goimg om.
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Really bro, maintain you look good.. big enough for what you want and that is picking up ladies, you dont wanna be on the npc stage and thats a good choice lol.... one question--- you shoot tren with a slin pin? do you backfill it?
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Why don't you change to Test Eth (100mg ED) Drop you Tren Ace to 50mg ED and throw in some Bold/Equip or NPP at around 100mg ED just keep your growth in
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I've been maintaining for like 2 months now but I kind of want to put on a little more lean muscle with minimal water retention. Here are some pics
STATS 5'10 222LBS first thing when I wake up
(http://i43.tinypic.com/wqr6tk.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2e1zn6t.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/287gryf.jpg)
here is what I am currently on (for 14 weeks now or so)
70mg ED test prop
80mg ED tren ace
5iu ED HGH
I only have those 3 things available. I won't be ordering anything else at the moment.
I am thinking of maybe bumping HGH to 8iu ED and going up to 100mg of test prop ED (so from 490mg per week to 700mg per week)
Thoughts?
You look good ,bro...yeah , I agree , keep it safe and simple...bump the prop to 1g to 1.5 weekly ..increase the gh to 10 ius daily..more food ..
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Really bro, maintain you look good.. big enough for what you want and that is picking up ladies, you dont wanna be on the npc stage and thats a good choice lol.... one question--- you shoot tren with a slin pin? do you backfill it?
I already get ladies with my physique. Last thing I want to do is jeopardize that by getting a bloated face. That is why I want to be really careful here. And no, I shoot all my AAS with a long gauge pin. Never shot AAS with a slin pin. only hgh...I was just saying I can shoot another 50mg tonight since I only did my usual dose this morning
Why don't you change to Test Eth (100mg ED) Drop you Tren Ace to 50mg ED and throw in some Bold/Equip or NPP at around 100mg ED just keep your growth in
Like I said, I don't want to get bloofy and I don't want to place an order because I don't really have time. I'm going on a cruise in mid march so I will need to be extremely conditioned that week. I am just thinking adding some more lean mass and then clean up if I have to for 2 weeks before the cruise. I like to stick with my prop, tren, and hgh
You look good ,bro...yeah , I agree , keep it safe and simple...bump the prop to 1g to 1.5 weekly ..increase the gh to 10 ius daily..more food ..
1g is a lot of test man. I don't know if I wanna bump it that high. HGH I am willing to go to 8iu. 10iu and it's getting expensive
More food is not a problem at all but too many carbs make me watery. I always look best on very little more than 1g per lb of bodyweight.
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ok so I'm either gonna do this or continue maintaining. If I continue maintaining, it is for both financial and health reasons. I'm so tempted to just slin pin the rest tonight that I didn't pin this morning and get this started
Are you unhealthy? Did you get poor blood work results back recently? If not, then blast away and put on some LBM, then cut down a little and be bigger and leaner for the cruise, THEN and MOST IMPORTANTLY, fuck the hottest chick on the boat lol.
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Are you unhealthy? Did you get poor blood work results back recently? If not, then blast away and put on some LBM, then cut down a little and be bigger and leaner for the cruise, THEN and MOST IMPORTANTLY, fuck the hottest chick on the boat lol.
The only thing that made me nervous about my last blood work was my HDL of 30 when the normal range is 40>
And yes, the plan is to get a little bigger and only need 1-2 weeks to lose any excess water
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The only thing that made me nervous about my last blood work was my HDL of 30 when the normal range is 40>
And yes, the plan is to get a little bigger and only need 1-2 weeks to lose any excess water
I wouldn't be concerned about that bro. Get on 6g fish oil daily, 500mg niacin NOT the flush free kind, 1200mg red yeast rice, 500mg turmeric extract, 200mg COQ10 and eat a LOT of fruit and fiber, and you're LDL will decrease, and HDL will increase, both significantly. My HDL was 18 before, and these supps along with not using any orals, fixed that completely.
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I think your going off the track here an loosing the basic principles...
You want to get bigger, your going to have to hold some water, some bloof, look a little smooth, thats just the way it is. Your not going to gain no fat with some Tren and growth in there so its only a short run back before you back to being cut..
Your worrying about LDL and HDL.. Look your pumping your body with hormones, there will be consequences for these actions down the line.. Your body is far beyond what it could attain naturally, there is always a price to pay for this, nothing is a free ride.. it may not be your arteries that pay the price but something will. All you can do is be as healthy as you can and like it has already been suggested take fish oils, good fats, swallow some Argine if you feel it will help, eat your fruits, veg, good balanced healthy diet, keep the ale to a minimum etc etc and do your best.
Personally you want to get bigger, you wanna do it now before the weather kicks in and you can show off what you worked for.. bloof a little until April with some compounds that will cause you to thicken out then just shift it like you did to get to this point!
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I wouldn't be concerned about that bro. Get on 6g fish oil daily, 500mg niacin NOT the flush free kind, 1200mg red yeast rice, 500mg turmeric extract, 200mg COQ10 and eat a LOT of fruit and fiber, and you're LDL will decrease, and HDL will increase, both significantly. My HDL was 18 before, and these supps along with not using any orals, fixed that completely.
my LDL is totally fine. I've been on 6g of fish oils for years. The other stuff I haven't taken because I have a hard time convincing myself it actually does a dam thing. Maybe Niacin though
I think your going off the track here an loosing the basic principles...
You want to get bigger, your going to have to hold some water, some bloof, look a little smooth, thats just the way it is. Your not going to gain no fat with some Tren and growth in there so its only a short run back before you back to being cut..
Your worrying about LDL and HDL.. Look your pumping your body with hormones, there will be consequences for these actions down the line.. Your body is far beyond what it could attain naturally, there is always a price to pay for this, nothing is a free ride.. it may not be your arteries that pay the price but something will. All you can do is be as healthy as you can and like it has already been suggested take fish oils, good fats, swallow some Argine if you feel it will help, eat your fruits, veg, good balanced healthy diet, keep the ale to a minimum etc etc and do your best.
Personally you want to get bigger, you wanna do it now before the weather kicks in and you can show off what you worked for.. bloof a little until April with some compounds that will cause you to thicken out then just shift it like you did to get to this point!
I know I have to bloof a little, I just want to keep it to a complete minimum if possible. I also take fish oils, good fats, and arginine. I do not eats fruits or veggies though. I think I am going to stick to my original plan which some others have agreed with (bump prop from 70mg to 100mg, bump tren from 80mg to 100mg, and bump hgh from 5iu to 8iu). I know these aren't huge increases, but it should be enough to bring it more lean mass when I throw in maybe 100g of carbs extra in my day on top of what I usually do.
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you look like shit, hope this helps 8)
PS:you would look great if you add equipoise, you would also add some muscle ofc
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Upping the dose is always going to give you more of course but I think its important to cycle your compounds a bit more
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my LDL is totally fine. I've been on 6g of fish oils for years. The other stuff I haven't taken because I have a hard time convincing myself it actually does a dam thing. Maybe Niacin though
I know I have to bloof a little, I just want to keep it to a complete minimum if possible. I also take fish oils, good fats, and arginine. I do not eats fruits or veggies though. I think I am going to stick to my original plan which some others have agreed with (bump prop from 70mg to 100mg, bump tren from 80mg to 100mg, and bump hgh from 5iu to 8iu). I know these aren't huge increases, but it should be enough to bring it more lean mass when I throw in maybe 100g of carbs extra in my day on top of what I usually do.
I never did either, until I seen those numbers and didn't want to be prescribed a statin or lisinopril at less than 30yrs of age. I started taking those supps at those dosages and they worked. Statins are actually derived from policosanol, a natural source, which is also a legal supp that doesn't require a script. 40-60mg per day of policosanol would also be very beneficial. Natural supps do work, you just need to use the right ones and the right amounts. Like milk thistle for example, it's not the milk thistle powder you want or whole herb, it's the milk thistle extract with a high percentage of salymarin. A lot of supp companies rip people off and give them sub par quality and under dosed product, because most people know nothing about how much more potent the extraction process makes the herb. I do agree with the protocol you said with the test, tren, and gh. Good, solid plan imo.
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like i said before, the test and hgh will bloat you, so if you want to run more gear then you should run different compounds. i don't know why you are set in only running test tren and hgh.
eq tren and cut the hgh down to 2iu or switch to a different brand of hgh since i can see from the pictures you are bloated as hell.
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If you`re only gonna` run those 3 things,what`s the mystery,just up all 3.
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If you`re only gonna` run those 3 things,what`s the mystery,just up all 3.
LOL, quality post!
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you look like shit, hope this helps 8)
PS:you would look great if you add equipoise, you would also add some muscle ofc
how much would you add? 1g? I've never run EQ before
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how much would you add? 1g? I've never run EQ before
600 mgs.
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like i said before, the test and hgh will bloat you, so if you want to run more gear then you should run different compounds. i don't know why you are set in only running test tren and hgh.
eq tren and cut the hgh down to 2iu or switch to a different brand of hgh since i can see from the pictures you are bloated as hell.
well first thing in the morning, I am shredded like crazy. I'll post a pic tomorrow morning. I just hold water throughout the day and those pics were post workout. Pics look better on my phone than on a computer. I don't really feel like placing another order which is why I'm kind of set on these 3. I do want to use EQ though.
and ps, i just upped everything today to 100mg ED and hgh to 8iu
if you have the money why not try out 10iu a day? Should make for some freaky gains.
that's the thing, I don't know if I want to spend that kind of cash. I figure 5iu to 8iu is a good enough bump if I am also slightly increasing the rest
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wow bro you wake up looking that full?
is that from the water retention of the rips?
i wake up and my muscles are flat as pancakes, but at night i'm blown the fuck up
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wow bro you wake up looking that full?
is that from the water retention of the rips?
i wake up and my muscles are flat as pancakes, but at night i'm blown the fuck up
nah these pics were taken post workout. kind of cheating I guess. I'll snap a pic tomorrow morning and post it. I look smaller but really ripped when I wake up
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you ever run deca? how did your body respond to that
i think i am one of the few people who think EQ is pretty useless unless you run a lot of other shit or a lot of it
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If you`re only gonna` run those 3 things,what`s the mystery,just up all 3.
x2
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how much would you add? 1g? I've never run EQ before
600-900, if you can find a quality one you will love it
it's the better option for your goals imo, you will add some muscle, and your look will be different alot more veins, delts poping more, more endurence it stacks well with the tren
it's also cheper than upping the growth hormone and better side effects wise than upping the tren i guess
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you ever run deca? how did your body respond to that
i think i am one of the few people who think EQ is pretty useless unless you run a lot of other shit or a lot of it
not deca, but NPP I have at 60mg ED with prop. Lots of water retention but I was eating tons of carbs. It did put size on me for sure though
600-900, if you can find a quality one you will love it
it's the better option for your goals imo, you will add some muscle, and your look will be different alot more veins, delts poping more, more endurence it stacks well with the tren
it's also cheper than upping the growth hormone and better side effects wise than upping the tren i guess
well I bumped prop and tren to 100mg ED and hgh to 8iu, as I had planned