thinking about trying to put on some more muscle. advice on drug stack...

[apply85]

more tren imo

[Max B]

I am one handsome mother fucker dude

I don't remember. Maybe?

My mom used to tell me that too dude 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

i am the same, but that means your body is taking in a lot of water and holding a lot of water. if you eat a lot of carbs in a day or a lot of sodium your abs and lines wash out a bit don't they? next morning though your abs will look hard and separated? same deal here, it's the hgh for me because i don't run test.

i don't want to discuss the lab results in detail out of respect for big a's wishes but you do remember what the first test results said about the rips? remember the shitstorm it caused. that's the reason why people hold so much more water on rips versus pharm grade GH, rips aren't as pure.

yes I am the EXACT same way about holding water. I'll eat sodium and carbs and the next morning, very seperated.

you think holding water on rips is a matter of purity? I mean I have like 900iu left so I am not going to let it go to waste. It is well priced gh but still costs a lot

oh btw I forgot to say I am also on 25mg of proviron

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I'm thinking 100mg ED of both prop and tren, with HGH 8iu per day split in two shots. I'll also continue the 25mg proviron and 25mg EOD of caber. Maybe I'll add 12.5mg of aromasin for water and minor gyno flare ups

[aesthetics]

yes I am the EXACT same way about holding water. I'll eat sodium and carbs and the next morning, very seperated.

you think holding water on rips is a matter of purity? I mean I have like 900iu left so I am not going to let it go to waste. It is well priced gh but still costs a lot

oh btw I forgot to say I am also on 25mg of proviron

i like rips and i'd definitely use them in the future. in my opinion they are strong as hell GH, but yes, the reason why people hold more water on rips is because they aren't as pure as pharm grade. the residual left over amino-acids that constitute the impurities, form fragments of the human growth hormone chain and cause the added side effects but not the anabolism because they didn't form into the full 191 amino acid chain. they are left in the vial because it is more costly and difficult to purify the hgh to higher purity grades. 

[farrellzach]

but you were saying to go with 180mg of tren ED, not per week. And right now I am on 80mg per day. thoughts? As you can see, I am not used to running a lot of gear. I've always gotten by on a moderate amount

No no no I meant bump up TO 100mg, not BY 100mg

[AlphaMaleDawg]

No no no I meant bump up TO 100mg, not BY 100mg

ok that makes more sense. That is pretty much what I was thinking I will do

[OptimusPrime1980]

I've been maintaining for like 2 months now but I kind of want to put on a little more lean muscle with minimal water retention. Here are some pics

STATS 5'10 222LBS first thing when I wake up




here is what I am currently on (for 14 weeks now or so)
70mg ED test prop
80mg ED tren ace
5iu ED HGH

I only have those 3 things available. I won't be ordering anything else at the moment.

I am thinking of maybe bumping HGH to 8iu ED and going up to 100mg of test prop ED (so from 490mg per week to 700mg per week)

Thoughts?

up the tren...!
and if you up the gh you can up the test as well...
but i would first up the tren alone if you want lean mass...

[evser]

Id say keep the test as is bump the tren to 700/ week up the gh 8-10 iu and maybe use some t3 if u can get. Once those doses are in your system for a couple weeks slowly up the carbs by like 20/day each week until you see some gains. looking great though bra

[Max B]

Increase trenbologna to 200mgs ED alphamaledawggyyyy pound it bruh

[SF1900]

You look pretty jacked already bro, why not dial down the sauce and try to maintain what you've got whilst improving your health?

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Id say keep the test as is bump the tren to 700/ week up the gh 8-10 iu and maybe use some t3 if u can get. Once those doses are in your system for a couple weeks slowly up the carbs by like 20/day each week until you see some gains. looking great though bra

I don't have T3 but the rest is definitely something I will consider. I decided against doing more this morning when I injected but I could always slin pin the rest tonight if I choose to

Increase trenbologna to 200mgs ED alphamaledawggyyyy pound it bruh

way too much poundin homey

[juicyjay]

I'm thinking 100mg ED of both prop and tren, with HGH 8iu per day split in two shots. I'll also continue the 25mg proviron and 25mg EOD of caber. Maybe I'll add 12.5mg of aromasin for water and minor gyno flare ups

This is the best option IMO

[AlphaMaleDawg]

This is the best option IMO

ok so I'm either gonna do this or continue maintaining. If I continue maintaining, it is for both financial and health reasons. I'm so tempted to just slin pin the rest tonight that I didn't pin this morning and get this started

[lyquid]

ok so I'm either gonna do this or continue maintaining. If I continue maintaining, it is for both financial and health reasons. I'm so tempted to just slin pin the rest tonight that I didn't pin this morning and get this started

looks like you meed more juice.ud prob be leamer to droppimg test amd doimg higher doses of others.

I am lobimg mo test feel more roumd all ober amd separated amd fuller while addimg leam mass.

you said you didmt rly like slim. Was it uumder twemty iu. I omly moticed it at twemty iu. Amd liked it alot.

build up that gut more. Ud look great with a mimja turtle belly goimg om.

[Max B]

Really bro, maintain you look good.. big enough for what you want and that is picking up ladies, you dont wanna be on the npc stage and thats a good choice lol....  one question--- you shoot tren with a slin pin? do you backfill it?

[NeilGM]

Why don't you change to Test Eth (100mg ED) Drop you Tren Ace to 50mg ED and throw in some Bold/Equip or NPP at around 100mg ED just keep your growth in

[L.L]

I've been maintaining for like 2 months now but I kind of want to put on a little more lean muscle with minimal water retention. Here are some pics

STATS 5'10 222LBS first thing when I wake up




here is what I am currently on (for 14 weeks now or so)
70mg ED test prop
80mg ED tren ace
5iu ED HGH

I only have those 3 things available. I won't be ordering anything else at the moment.

I am thinking of maybe bumping HGH to 8iu ED and going up to 100mg of test prop ED (so from 490mg per week to 700mg per week)

Thoughts?

You look good ,bro...yeah , I agree , keep it safe and simple...bump the prop to 1g to 1.5  weekly ..increase the gh to 10 ius daily..more food ..

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Really bro, maintain you look good.. big enough for what you want and that is picking up ladies, you dont wanna be on the npc stage and thats a good choice lol....  one question--- you shoot tren with a slin pin? do you backfill it?

I already get ladies with my physique. Last thing I want to do is jeopardize that by getting a bloated face. That is why I want to be really careful here. And no, I shoot all my AAS with a long gauge pin. Never shot AAS with a slin pin. only hgh...I was just saying I can shoot another 50mg tonight since I only did my usual dose this morning

Why don't you change to Test Eth (100mg ED) Drop you Tren Ace to 50mg ED and throw in some Bold/Equip or NPP at around 100mg ED just keep your growth in

Like I said, I don't want to get bloofy and I don't want to place an order because I don't really have time. I'm going on a cruise in mid march so I will need to be extremely conditioned that week. I am just thinking adding some more lean mass and then clean up if I have to for 2 weeks before the cruise. I like to stick with my prop, tren, and hgh

You look good ,bro...yeah , I agree , keep it safe and simple...bump the prop to 1g to 1.5  weekly ..increase the gh to 10 ius daily..more food ..

1g is a lot of test man. I don't know if I wanna bump it that high. HGH I am willing to go to 8iu. 10iu and it's getting expensive

More food is not a problem at all but too many carbs make me watery. I always look best on very little more than 1g per lb of bodyweight.

[juicyjay]

ok so I'm either gonna do this or continue maintaining. If I continue maintaining, it is for both financial and health reasons. I'm so tempted to just slin pin the rest tonight that I didn't pin this morning and get this started

Are you unhealthy? Did you get poor blood work results back recently? If not, then blast away and put on some LBM, then cut down a little and be bigger and leaner for the cruise, THEN and MOST IMPORTANTLY, fuck the hottest chick on the boat lol.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Are you unhealthy? Did you get poor blood work results back recently? If not, then blast away and put on some LBM, then cut down a little and be bigger and leaner for the cruise, THEN and MOST IMPORTANTLY, fuck the hottest chick on the boat lol.

The only thing that made me nervous about my last blood work was my HDL of 30 when the normal range is 40>

And yes, the plan is to get a little bigger and only need 1-2 weeks to lose any excess water

[juicyjay]

The only thing that made me nervous about my last blood work was my HDL of 30 when the normal range is 40>

And yes, the plan is to get a little bigger and only need 1-2 weeks to lose any excess water

I wouldn't be concerned about that bro. Get on 6g fish oil daily, 500mg niacin NOT the flush free kind, 1200mg red yeast rice, 500mg turmeric extract, 200mg COQ10 and eat a LOT of fruit and fiber, and you're LDL will decrease, and HDL will increase, both significantly. My HDL was 18 before, and these supps along with not using any orals, fixed that completely.

[NeilGM]

I think your going off the track here an loosing the basic principles...

You want to get bigger, your going to have to hold some water, some bloof, look a little smooth, thats just the way it is. Your not going to gain no fat with some Tren and growth in there so its only a short run back before you back to being cut..

Your worrying about LDL and HDL.. Look your pumping your body with hormones, there will be consequences for these actions down the line.. Your body is far beyond what it could attain naturally, there is always a price to pay for this, nothing is a free ride.. it may not be your arteries that pay the price but something will. All you can do is be as healthy as you can and like it has already been suggested take fish oils, good fats, swallow some Argine if you feel it will help, eat your fruits, veg, good balanced healthy diet, keep the ale to a minimum etc etc and do your best.

Personally you want to get bigger, you wanna do it now before the weather kicks in and you can show off what you worked for.. bloof a little until April with some compounds that will cause you to thicken out then just shift it like you did to get to this point!

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I wouldn't be concerned about that bro. Get on 6g fish oil daily, 500mg niacin NOT the flush free kind, 1200mg red yeast rice, 500mg turmeric extract, 200mg COQ10 and eat a LOT of fruit and fiber, and you're LDL will decrease, and HDL will increase, both significantly. My HDL was 18 before, and these supps along with not using any orals, fixed that completely.

my LDL is totally fine. I've been on 6g of fish oils for years. The other stuff I haven't taken because I have a hard time convincing myself it actually does a dam thing. Maybe Niacin though

I think your going off the track here an loosing the basic principles...

You want to get bigger, your going to have to hold some water, some bloof, look a little smooth, thats just the way it is. Your not going to gain no fat with some Tren and growth in there so its only a short run back before you back to being cut..

Your worrying about LDL and HDL.. Look your pumping your body with hormones, there will be consequences for these actions down the line.. Your body is far beyond what it could attain naturally, there is always a price to pay for this, nothing is a free ride.. it may not be your arteries that pay the price but something will. All you can do is be as healthy as you can and like it has already been suggested take fish oils, good fats, swallow some Argine if you feel it will help, eat your fruits, veg, good balanced healthy diet, keep the ale to a minimum etc etc and do your best.

Personally you want to get bigger, you wanna do it now before the weather kicks in and you can show off what you worked for.. bloof a little until April with some compounds that will cause you to thicken out then just shift it like you did to get to this point!

I know I have to bloof a little, I just want to keep it to a complete minimum if possible. I also take fish oils, good fats, and arginine. I do not eats fruits or veggies though. I think I am going to stick to my original plan which some others have agreed with (bump prop from 70mg to 100mg, bump tren from 80mg to 100mg, and bump hgh from 5iu to 8iu). I know these aren't huge increases, but it should be enough to bring it more lean mass when I throw in maybe 100g of carbs extra in my day on top of what I usually do.

[HEAVYLIFT]

you look like shit, hope this helps 

PS:you would look great if you add equipoise, you would also add some muscle ofc