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do you think you could keep yourself busy or do you think you would self destruct somewhere along the line
what if you couldnt kill yourself. look at it both ways
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''Maybe God didn't always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence.''
TBOMBZ
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I like Ice Cream.
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the normal laws of existance dont apply to me i have already exceeded and succeded all expectations i can only imagine what is next and what the potential for me will be because surely i have a near flawless grasp on this life ie; i treat everyone wonderfully, i work hard and am greatful for my existence.
some would say i have a smart mouth but that is far outweighed by my good efforts. I beleive god would have a smart mouth too but yet still get the job done, sometimes having a smart mouth is a good way to provoke relaxed minded people into a progressive state.
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porn and xbox live
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porn and xbox live
i sometimes feel ive already been doing this for infinity and will continue to do so, its a trap but maybe the trap=part of life
but trap=part can be a bad thing thats why they call ladyboys trap=part
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''Maybe God didn't always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence.''
TBOMBZ
Haha. I remember when he declared that he had positively proved the existence of God using science. You can't make up shit like that. ;D
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i sometimes feel ive already been doing this for infinity and will continue to do so, its a trap but maybe the trap=part of life
but trap=part can be a bad thing thats why they call ladyboys trap=part
Damn, that's pure beauty!
Shakespeare would have been jealous.
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Haha. I remember when he declared that he had positively proved the existence of God using science. You can't make up shit like that. ;D
;D He's nuts
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do you think you could keep yourself busy or do you think you would self destruct somewhere along the line
what if you couldnt kill yourself. look at it both ways
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Damn, that's pure beauty!
Shakespeare would have been jealous.
a man that only shakespeare is destined to be jealous of the great captian de falcone
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LOL ;D
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do you think you could keep yourself busy or do you think you would self destruct somewhere along the line
what if you couldnt kill yourself. look at it both ways
insiders reported that She was so bored she created getbig so there would be an endless stream of man made frustration and bitchiness
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Haha. I remember when he declared that he had positively proved the existence of God using science. You can't make up shit like that. ;D
lol...well, at least we know hes paying attention in logic and philosophy 101 in school. problem is...you cant unlearn religious crazy...
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do you think you could keep yourself busy or do you think you would self destruct somewhere along the line
what if you couldnt kill yourself. look at it both ways
Well if he had hundreds of fine ass hoes around he probably keep going forever.
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There are things we are not meant, designed to "understand". We re here to reproduce life, protect it and follow God's words to find genuine hapiness. It's a constant challenge, a constant selection. Attempting to go further in terms or reasoning leads to suffering or believing in absurdity which is nihilism and leads to destruction and death. Atheists are the closest of believing in absurdity. They are at war with christians and muslims worldwide, even if most of the time they re "seduced" by islam after abandoning christianism.
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che is an offspring of falcon
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There are things we are not meant, designed to "understand". We re here to reproduce and follow God's words to find hapiness. It's a constant challenge, a constant selection. Attempting to go further in terms or reasonment leads to suffering or believing in absurdity which is nihilism and leads to destruction and death.
Sounds like Government talk. We are nothing more than money too the government..........More people=More money. I will not conform too thier way of life. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ;D
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There are things we are not meant, designed to "understand". We re here to reproduce life, protect it and follow God's words to find genuine hapiness. It's a constant challenge, a constant selection. Attempting to go further in terms or reasoning leads to suffering or believing in absurdity which is nihilism and leads to destruction and death. Atheists are the closest of believing in absurdity. They are at war with christians and muslims worldwide, even if most of the time they re "seduced" by islam after abandoning christianism.
nice copy and paste uberpanties
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nice copy and paste uberpanties
copy and paste from where, you moron?
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I copied everyone else and pasted it on your moms back.
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copy and paste from where, you moron?
all your posts are copied from other people
there is not enough consistency in your prose
you are too stupid even to fake it ubertitties
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''Maybe God didn't always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence.''
TBOMBZ
yes, something that does not exist, could absolutely create itself
haha religion of peace
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There are things we are not meant, designed to "understand". We re here to reproduce life, protect it and follow God's words to find genuine hapiness. It's a constant challenge, a constant selection. Attempting to go further in terms or reasoning leads to suffering or believing in absurdity which is nihilism and leads to destruction and death. Atheists are the closest of believing in absurdity. They are at war with christians and muslims worldwide, even if most of the time they re "seduced" by islam after abandoning christianism.
your distress is great
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I like Ice Cream.
I like turtles
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If God is omnipotent then he can exert influence anywhere as well as anywhen. Since the ability to perform an action implies existence at that moment, God would a pan-temporal being who wouldn't experience a perpetuation of existence from moment to moment as we do. He would exist simultaneously at all moments and not experience time as something which passes but rather as something across which he extends.
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T-Bombz drug addict talk and Unterman's hillbilly wisdom.
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hey johnny, you are a cool guy. that's all i wanted to say.
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I like turtles
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If God is omnipotent then he can exert influence anywhere as well as anywhen. Since the ability to perform an action implies existence at that moment, God would a pan-temporal being who wouldn't experience a perpetuation of existence from moment to moment as we do. He would exist simultaneously at all moments and not experience time as something which passes but rather as something across which he extends.
Correct, also he would be outside of space and wouldn't be made out of matter because he created it
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What if God was one of us? Just a slob like one of us. Trying to find his way home...
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In order to create something new, by definition it cannot already exist. So if God created TIME, space, and matter, then by definition he cannot have previously existed in a world governed by time, space, and matter. He created time, so he cannot have a beginning or an ending.
That's what I was trying to say, but was a poor attempt, yours very well put ;)
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god being omnipotent doesnt automatically qualify him to be present in all things at all times. He created everything but after he did that these creations where on there own abiding by natural laws
god said heres the bike, now peddle it
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In order to create something new, by definition it cannot already exist. So if God created TIME, space, and matter, then by definition he cannot have previously existed in a world governed by time, space, and matter. He created time, so he cannot have a beginning or an ending.
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you say time but what really is going on is movement in space thats either evolution or chemical reactions
whos to say god did or didnot quit his job as god and got tired of all this after he gave us "bikes" and now we are peddling them without his help but only the help of "natural laws". we are kinda far from knowing all the natural laws theres much to be learned that we are blind to
perhaps the intelligence got to god and he realized it was best to quit and let all of his creation find there ways to the higher realms on there own, since we are kinda equipped with this potential
im pretty sure god didnt quit after zillions of years existing of course years/time probably dont even exist with him, there is so much that god couldve done , he could totally NOT exist anymore or he could still be around reluctantly
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god being omnipotent doesnt automatically qualify him to be present in all things at all times. He created everything but after he did that these creations where on there own abiding by natural laws
god said heres the bike, now peddle it
Actually, that's what the job description entails, Senor.
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do you think you could keep yourself busy or do you think you would self destruct somewhere along the line
what if you couldnt kill yourself. look at it both ways
maybe God already did self destruct, more than one time, even died more than one time.
as a safeguard if something goes wrong just like with normal life. but it probably happens very seldom.
perhaps as fate would have it the best person in line so to speak, get's to reincarnate as God and thus he will exists as long as there is life and always be the most good minded mind possible.
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Actually, that's what the job description entails, Senor.
im saying he gave the responsibilty to us, shure hes in us and everything but the responsibility lies within our hearts and brains that can lead us to a good destiny or not
omnipotent means unlimited power, i dont think god is always using unlimited power in unlimited things but on the flip side perhaps that unlimited power is what it takes as the "glue" to keep everything you see around you and within together
we were created to have some sort of responsibility for our actions thus gods ominipotence is nullified by this on purpose by god
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What if God was one of us? Just a slob like one of us. Trying to find his way home...
Dude,you`re on a fucking roll today! LOL ;D
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This threads like a bad acid trip!
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god is probably working on himself pretty hard right now, he created us in is own image right? so he must have realized he has self destructive tendencies by now.
we are pre-programmed by god to create god, which means our quest is to create his bride? the Large Hadron Collider and the internet it probably some type of milestones in this purpose
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In order to create something new, by definition it cannot already exist. So if God created TIME, space, and matter, then by definition he cannot have previously existed in a world governed by time, space, and matter. He created time, so he cannot have a beginning or an ending.
Cool baseless assertions bro.
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god is probably working on himself pretty hard right now, he created us in is own image right? so he must have realized he has self destructive tendencies by now.
we are pre-programmed by god to create god, which means our quest is to create his bride? the Large Hadron Collider and the internet it probably some type of milestones in this purpose
god may have unlimited power but it doesnt mean he always uses it for "his" or our purposes
god could be lazy with his unlimited power or distracted or doesnt have a clear objective in mind. his objective may change a zillion tmes a day.
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god is probably working on himself pretty hard right now, he created us in is own image right? so he must have realized he has self destructive tendencies by now.
we are pre-programmed by god to create god, which means our quest is to create his bride? the Large Hadron Collider and the internet it probably some type of milestones in this purpose
yes we couldve been created to make or be his best friend
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god may have unlimited power but it doesnt mean he always uses it for "his" or our purposes
god could be lazy with his unlimited power or distracted or doesnt have a clear objective in mind
true, chances are he is napping from time to time, else he would never dream. he doesn't have the same perspective of time as we so it could be "a while" be fore he wakes up and checks in on what happened the last 5000 thousand years
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If God is omnipotent then he can exert influence anywhere as well as anywhen. Since the ability to perform an action implies existence at that moment, God would a pan-temporal being who wouldn't experience a perpetuation of existence from moment to moment as we do. He would exist simultaneously at all moments and not experience time as something which passes but rather as something across which he extends.
i dont think so , omnipotence doesnt imply the power to make a statement both true and false at the same time, it doesnt mean you can make a logical truth untrue. time isnt something that can be navigated. it just happens.
however, i could be wrong..
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true, chances are he is napping from time to time, else he would never dream. he doesn't have the same perspective of time as we so it could be "a while" be fore he wakes up and checks in on what happened the last 5000 thousand years
atleast we can rest assure for fact that his short term intentions are good , meaning that if we are an asshole and make bad decisions it will come back to us sooner or later in the form of bad karma
hopefully his short term earthly intentions for us are the same for the "long term"
we can easily see the reward and fruits of our good labors, that is very assuring
thats the only way i can be assured
i cant be assured by just following the christian mantra of "beleive in jesus youll be saved" that defies the creators intented logic built within us
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i dont think so , omnipotence doesnt imply the power to make a statement both true and false at the same time, it doesnt mean you can make a logical truth untrue. time isnt something that can be navigated. it just happens.
however, i could be wrong..
omnipotent means unlimited so yes it can imply making a statement both true and false
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atleast we can rest assure for fact that his short term intentions are good , meaning that if we are an asshole and make bad decisions it will come back to us sooner or later in the form of bad karma
hopefully his short term earthly intentions for us are the same for the "long term"
drifting of to sleep feeling real satisfied and reassured, confident everything would go smoothly, that the hard work of creating the Earth and humans would pay off.
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omnipotent means unlimited so yes it can imply making a statement both true and false
one conception of the term is the ability to do anythnig- even the logically impossible.. but not everyone accepts that definition.. or, better stated, not everyone believes that such a power can exist.. because if the logially impossible was possible.. then it wouldnt be impossible :P ;)
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one conception of the term is the ability to do anythnig- even the logically impossible.. but not everyone accepts that definition.. or, better stated, not everyone believes that such a power can exist.. because if the logially impossible was possible.. then it wouldnt be impossible :P ;)
infinite and unlimited are not words they are questions at best and lackluster definitions at worst .
a man would say those words are synonymous with "never ending" or " for ever" but that man would be wrong because never ending and forever are implying distance and measurmants undefined very much like and equation like 15z or 12x
hope this helps
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infinite and unlimited are not words they are questions at best and lackluster definitions at worst .
a man would say those words are synonymous with "never ending" or " for ever" but that man would be wrong because never ending and forever are implying distance and measurmants undefined very much like and equation like 15z or 12x
hope this helps
:D impressive johnny
but infinite and unlimited are too different terms, infinite is what unlimited allows for. but unlimited is not necessarily infinite. that being said.. neither apply solely to distance and measurements, but can be applied to any qualitative or quantitative category, or even every category.
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As the testament states "For he put forth his guiding light and from the Ashes it rose, his very words on getbig.com, held tightly by his son, embodied by love and his very message, gh15, let no evil enter his soul."
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do you think you could keep yourself busy or do you think you would self destruct somewhere along the line
what if you couldnt kill yourself. look at it both ways
Maybe God doesnt has human emotions. That is why he sent jesus to live as a human.
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Yea, I used logic...go figure.
You purposely dodged my questions in another thread where I questioned you about your faith (and you couldn't intelligently respond).
Here you say:
"He created time, so he cannot have a beginning or an ending."
Provide evidence to substantiate this claim. Thanks.
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do you think you could keep yourself busy or do you think you would self destruct somewhere along the line
what if you couldnt kill yourself. look at it both ways
We're spinning round on this ball of hate
There's no parole, there's no great escape
We're sentenced here until the end of days
And then my brother there's a price to pay
We're only human, we were born to die
Without the benefit of reason why
We live for pleasure - to be satisfied
And now it's over there's no place to hide
It's such a brutal planet
It's such a living hell
It was a holy garden
That's right where Adam fell
It's where the bite was taken
It's where we chose to sin
It's where we first were naked
This is where our death begins!
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My death began immediately after I read that "poem" . :(
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If god exists he has the mother of all SIMS games going
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If god exists he has the mother of all SIMS games going
I hope not. I don't know anyone that after playing the sims for a while didnt get bored then levels the whole fucking place....
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I seriously doubt I could not "intelligently respond" to any question you might ask. And I do not recollect what questions you are referring to, so feel free to jog my memory.
It was in JohnnyFalcons thread regarding the bible. You very conveniently stop responding.
Basic reasoning supports my claim. If time was previously "non-existent", and God created time, then God cannot exist in time. That is called logic.
BTW, is this gimmick account that you are using belong to DEICIDE?
I asked you for evidence. No one is interested in what your reasoning is.
"And if god created time"
So, for the last time, can you provide actual evidence to support your claims? Because your reasoning is absolutely useless.
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I hope not. I don't know anyone that after playing the sims for a while didnt get bored then levels the whole fucking place....
See what it mean
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What type of evidence are you wanting? Proof that God exists? Proof that he created time?
You did not ask either of the above. The question being asked was HOW can God exist forever (see thread title). Only LOGIC can answer a question like that. If you can't grasp that, then you do not understand the question.
And again, if you would like me to answer some other form of the question, then I suggest you plainly ask it. Also, if there is something in Johnny's other thread I didnt answer, then please repost it here because I have no idea what you are talking about.
Also, you never answered if you were DEICIDE. Before responding to anything else you have to say, I would like an answer to THAT question.
Why are you having so much trouble with this? I very clearly asked you for evidence to support your claims. I'll copy and paste exactly what I said:
"He created time, so he cannot have a beginning or an ending."
Provide evidence to substantiate this claim. Thanks.
Like I said before, I am not interested in your reasoning. I am interested in actual evidence. If you think claiming "He created time" is a question of logic, then you are either being deceitful or don't understand what we are discussing.
I have no idea what you are talking about regarding DECIDE and whatever that means.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=410760.msg5880685#msg5880685
Here is Falcons other thread about the Bible. Please show me the questions you falsely accused me of dodging.
How can you miss it? It's on the very first page, and I again asked you to respond as the last post in the thread. How could there possibly be any confusion? I quoted your post and asked you a question, then again asked you to respond.
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I would hurt this so hard, GOD would feel it
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I have provided a clear answer as to how God can exist forever.
If for example, I created water (meaning it was previously non-existant), then water could not have been around before I created it. If God created time, then time could not have been around before he created it.
What "evidence" you are looking for I do not know. If you want a "time-stamped" document saying God created time at such and such a date I can't help you. If you want an "eye-witness" account of the event I again cannot help you.
You have not been specific on what type of evidence you are looking for, but in the type of question being asked, the only type of evidence that would apply is logic and reason.
If you disagree, then provide EVIDENCE that God did NOT create time.
You could have just saved yourself all that typing and said, "no, I do not have evidence to support my claims".
And sorry, you need to ditch the typical asinine theist tactic asking for evidence of a negative. (you want evidence god did not create time). I've been explaining it a lot lately, but I guess I'll say it again: the person making the positive claim must provide the evidence. You are making claims that your god exists and that he created everything. The burden of proof is on you. Why do you believe in something when you can't provide evidence to justify your claims?
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You are unable to even provide a clear question. I have answered HOW God exists outside of time. What you want is evidence of God's existance period. You state what you are REALLY asking in the above quote.
There is no burden of proof "on me" as you put it. I am not the one "asking the questions". I know what I believe, and I know why.
If you were walking through the woods and found a computer, would you say, "Wow, look what magically got here on it's own after billions of years of evolution"? NO. You would say, "There must have been someone who CREATED this computer." Logic dictates that it could not have made itself. So if I look around at the world we live in, the same logic would apply. There MUST be a CREATOR.
Everyone believes something. It's amazing that you are so skeptical of what I believe, even though there is logic to back it up, yet if you were to examine your OWN beliefs you might find that logic and reason are somewhat lacking or non-existant.
Go ahead and tell me where this world came from and how we got here according to your beliefs.
I can't provide a clear question? I had to repeat myself at least 3 times. It is you who apparently can't even read because I asked you two different times in the other thread and you claim you didn't realize it.
So, still, you can't provide evidence to support your claim. Like I said numerous times, your logic and reasoning are irrelevant. I can replace god with any other imaginary being and it will be equally meaningless. Your logic is useless.
And now you propose the Watchmaker Argument? Arguably one of the most easily dismissable arguments theists have been using? I'm actually surprised you would even try such a silly argument. Do you know why you recognize the computer in the forest? Because you know and have seen for many years people creating computers. It is such a ridiculous argument it is laughable. You are comparing the computer, claiming it is obviously designed, against the forest. However, you are ultimately arguing that the forest was created by some sort of intelligence, yet the computer would be recognizable against the design of the forest?! It is a stupid argument for so many reasons. You claim "Logic dictates that it could not have made itself," however, that is precisely what you are claiming your god is. How come your god gets to skip this step? The computer/forest needed to be "created" by something more complex, then the actual "creator" would need an even more complex creator, leaving you with an infinite regression. It truly is a very poorly thought out argument, and like I said, it has been dismissed for a long time now.
I could give you an explanation up to the Big Bang on how we got here. Other than that, we currently don't know. However, having some intellectual integrity, I won't go around just making shit up to suit some Iron Age book that I have been indoctrinated in.
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the normal laws of existance dont apply to me i have already exceeded and succeded all expectations i can only imagine what is next and what the potential for me will be because surely i have a near flawless grasp on this life ie; i treat everyone wonderfully, i work hard and am greatful for my existence.
some would say i have a smart mouth but that is far outweighed by my good efforts. I beleive god would have a smart mouth too but yet still get the job done, sometimes having a smart mouth is a good way to provoke relaxed minded people into a progressive state.
And clearly you have no problem with having a rather large ego either. That being said, if your outlook on life is what you say it is, you are doing great!
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a man that only shakespeare is destined to be jealous of the great captian de falcone
Pure ego.
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copy and paste from where, you moron?
Exactly! It is a scary thought that someone else might think like you do. Glad to know you are one of a kind.
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I must admit that about halfway through this thread I stopped reading the posts. All this discussion about whether God exists or not seems rather pointless to argue. If you believe God exists or you don't it doesn't mean you are a good person or not.
A more worthy exercise would be for each of us to ask ourselves everyday, what am I going to do today to make myself a better person and the world a better place for all. If you're not doing that, you're missing the point of your being.
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I believe in a positive effect and a negative effect. No two having more power than the other in the whole scheme of things. However, I do believe there are spikes and valleys of each. If someone or something becomes too "positive", they/that will create a negative effect greater than neutral. Tim Tebow/Oprah/Tom Cruise is prime example of someone trying to push out above standard "positive" vibes. Short lived and fools gold at work. You can't fool science.
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I believe in a positive effect and a negative effect. No two having more power than the other in the whole scheme of things. However, I do believe there are spikes and valleys of each. If someone or something becomes too "positive", they/that will create a negative effect greater than neutral. Tim Tebow/Oprah/Tom Cruise is prime example of someone trying to push out above standard "positive" vibes. Short lived and fools gold at work. You can't fool science.
I suspect most of us aren't in danger of becoming too positive in our thinking, celebrity propaganda notwithstanding. I strive to be positive. I am not always successful though. One thing I suffer is feelings of insecurity. I can rationalize that there is no reason for this and yet I sometime still feel very insecure. This is a negative emotion. Perhaps it helps keep me "balanced" I don't know.
I have little time for Oprah, not that there is anything wrong with her as far as I know, and there is something decidedly weird seeming about Tom Cruise. Generally, I suspect celebrities are not the best example of what most of us view as having a normal life. There are probably some exceptions to this, but they would be the folks who avoid the limelight and not the ones who bask in it.
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I suspect most of us aren't in danger of becoming too positive in our thinking, celebrity propaganda notwithstanding. I strive to be positive. I am not always successful though. One thing I suffer is feelings of insecurity. I can rationalize that there is no reason for this and yet I sometime still feel very insecure. This is a negative emotion. Perhaps it helps keep me "balanced" I don't know.
I have little time for Oprah, not that there is anything wrong with her as far as I know, and there is something decidedly weird seeming about Tom Cruise. Generally, I suspect celebrities are not the best example of what most of us view as having a normal life. There are probably some exceptions to this, but they would be the folks who avoid the limelight and not the ones who bask in it.
Sure, there is. Her whole mentality/belief system that is you believe strongly/positively enough in something, and work hard enough, that all the world's riches will just fall into your lap. Creepy, misguided mythologizing.
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I would play tricks on Tbombz, like in the middle of the night appear in his room and say "TAYLOOORR....I HAVE TAKEN YOUR GIRLFRIEND! and he would look over and not be able to see her because her eyes are closed, and while he is mourning because she's the only one who bums him properly, I'd go downstairs and steal his gear from the fridge and all his pre packed meals (as I LOVE m&m's!)
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Without Faith, "intelligence" and "reasoning", are nothing, and at best, destructive, being only geared toward the self without considering the interest (survival) of others.
But hey, arent most of you childless uneducated fatherless meatheads in the firstplace. Some of you are even on steroids. What do you know about love, confidence, and ...Faith.
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Without Faith, intelligence, reasoning, are nothing, and at best, destructive, being only geared toward the self even if at the expense of the others.
But hey, arent most of you childless uneducated fatherless meatheads in the firstplace. What do you know about love, confidence, and ...Faith.
are you saying you love the cock
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Without Faith, "intelligence" and "reasoning", are nothing, and at best, destructive, being only geared toward the self without considering the interest (survival) of others.
But hey, arent most of you childless uneducated fatherless meatheads in the firstplace. What do you know about love, confidence, and ...Faith.
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are you saying you love the cock
What he's probably saying bigmc, is that if his boyfriend forgot to put fresh semen in his sandwiches, he would start making his own lunch!
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I read your question just fine. You did not like my evidence because it was based on logic and reason. If you believe logic and reason are poor arguments, then that is your opinion to form. It does not negate the argument however. You asked for evidence. I gave it. You want a different type of evidence, then please be specific.
For example, if I said, please provide evidence that George Washington was born and didn't just come from nothing.
You might say, "Of course he was born, he is a man. All men are born."
And I would repeat like you did, "Prove it."
You might say, "Well, we have records of his birth, and people who saw him".
And I would say, "Those are all made up, prove that he was born and hasn't just always existed. Did you personally see his birth? Then how do you know he had a birth?"
How might you go about PROVING that George Washington was born and didn't just come from nothing? LOGIC and REASON would dictate that he had to be born. Anyone who would say otherwise would be called a fool. Yet, you dismiss LOGIC and REASON as if they are invalid evidence for the question I answered. You tell me who is the fool.
Logic and reason are not evidence. It doesn't matter how many times you say it or try and spin it. It isn't evidence. If you don't understand that, especially after I have explained it to you numerous times, I don't know what else can be done.
The fact you think we can only prove George Washington existed through reason and logic shows your gross misunderstanding of how evidence actually works. There are numerous ways to verify George Washington existed besides logic that it would be ridiculous for me to have to actually explain that to you.
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Do you have a brain?
Have you ever PERSONALLY
Seen it?
Touched it?
Smelled it?
Tasted it?
Heard it?
If your answer is NO to all of those questions, then one might ask, "How do you know you have a brain?"
Well, if other people have brains, then I think it is fair to use logic and reason to assume that you do too. But of course logic and reason are poor arguments according to you are not true "EVIDENCE" that you have a brain, so maybe you don't have a brain. I know you've got me pretty convinced at this point that it might be true.
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Spare me your ridiculous solipsistic argument.
No, we do not use evidence and reason to determine that humans have brains. The answer to all your questions is obviously yes. We have seen, touched, smelled, etc. a human brain. If you are going to try and argue that since I personally have not done that to my very own brain, then there is no use in trying to reason with you because the points you bring up are so easily dismissable it funny.
I notice you didn't even try and refute my complete dismissal of your "creator" argument. Doesn't that worry you? Your best argument for the existence of god and it could be dismissed in a few sentences?
You should really try and understand the difference between logic and reason, and actual evidence. You yourself said you can not provide evidence for the existence of your god. Why do you believe in something that you have no evidence to justify your beliefs? It's silly.
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fuck you, the pope, your god and anthem blue cross of california (http://"http://www.professionalblasphemers.com")
that is all
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Gonna Q some chicken breasts tonight.
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Logic and reason are not evidence. It doesn't matter how many times you say it or try and spin it. It isn't evidence. If you don't understand that, especially after I have explained it to you numerous times, I don't know what else can be done.
The fact you think we can only prove George Washington existed through reason and logic shows your gross misunderstanding of how evidence actually works. There are numerous ways to verify George Washington existed besides logic that it would be ridiculous for me to have to actually explain that to you.
Yes and there are a number of ways to verify the very first known general in recorded history found in cuneiform tablets, the oldest known language,the birth of the Syrian capital of Damascus, the development of Ethiopia, The Mitraim river which is now the Nile, the reign of Tiglath Piliser of the Assyrian Dynesty and his Descendants - Sargon, Sennacherib, Essarhaddon, and Ashurbanipal respectively, The Babylonian exile with one of the greatest kings of the ancient world Nebuchadnezzar,, Greek rule and Roman Rule, but more importantly the birth of the following nations Israel, Palestine, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Ethiopia, Iraq, Iran, Italy, Greek, Northern African countries and parts of Asia. All of a common denomenator, the Biblical Narrative. Pretty sophisticated information for and anceint text, so I wouldn't exactly say there is no evidance of a God.
Using your logic 8)
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The same reason I believe I have a brain. Anyone with logic and reason KNOWS there is a Creator.
You havent answered anything, nor could you prove any of the questions I asked WITHOUT logic and reason.
I am not really concerned with whether you believe there is a God or not. Nor do I really care what you think of what I believe. I find it interesting you are so desperate to try to say there is no God. You don't know everything, nor do you know half of everything. Perhaps God exists in the half you don't know about. Yet you are determined God does not exist because you do not want to believe that He does.
I am finished responding to you "Growth Noob". Feel free to rant and rave about how you know there is no God.
Typical theist strategy. Make poorly thought out arguments, lie about positions I don't hold, ask ridiculous questions while not understanding the burden of proof is on them, then retreat.
Again, you are 100% wrong. We can see, touch, feel, smell, etc. the human brain. It has absolutely nothing to do with logic. Your examples are extremely poorly thought out. I never once said there is no god. I am questioning you on your beliefs and you couldn;t even come close to provide evidence to support your claims. You should stop lying and falsely categorizing my arguments.
It's clear to anyone that you are finished responding because I am thoroughly exposing you and your untenable position. If you don't respond, you prove exactly what I just said.
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Yes and there are a number of ways to verify the very first known general in recorded history found in cuneiform tablets, the oldest known language,the birth of the Syrian capital of Damascus, the development of Ethiopia, The Mitraim river which is now the Nile, the reign of Tiglath Piliser of the Assyrian Dynesty and his Descendants - Sargon, Sennacherib, Essarhaddon, and Ashurbanipal respectively, The Babylonian exile with one of the greatest kings of the ancient world Nebuchadnezzar,, Greek rule and Roman Rule, but more importantly the birth of the following nations Israel, Palestine, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Ethiopia, Iraq, Iran, Italy, Greek, Northern African countries and parts of Asia. All of a common denomenator, the Biblical Narrative. Pretty sophisticated information for and anceint text, so I wouldn't exactly say there is no evidance of a God.
Using your logic 8)
And what does any of that have to do with evidence for a god?
Just to clarify, that's the same book that explains that all of humanity incestuously spawned from two single people in a garden with talking snakes right?
That's the same book right? Even so, I still fail to realize what any of what you just wrote has to do with evidence for a god.
Please make that connection.
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Sure, there is. Her whole mentality/belief system that is you believe strongly/positively enough in something, and work hard enough, that all the world's riches will just fall into your lap. Creepy, misguided mythologizing.
Well, she her philosophy is probably base on her own life with seems pretty successful. But the reality is for every Oprah, there are literally millions of folks who despite believing, hoping and thinking positive thoughts, have very ordinary lives minus any of the world's riches.