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My question is, if he had to shoot him.. Why did he shoot him more then 3 times? During the third shot the fella is Falling down obviously Not posing any threat (you could even tell after the first shot he lowered the weapon) But no, 8 shots more, even when hes down on the ground :-\
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because dude had to die
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without guns, cops have zero balls
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dick cop still walking around with the gun in his hand, 2-3 minutes after kid is bleeding out? WTF?
i sure bet the police report read differently from the video.
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Couldn`t one of those tough guys just rushed in and tackle the fucking dude ???
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edit, he didnt fall down after three, but obviously not posing a threat at that time. Especially with the police not within striking distance of the weapon, no?
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Couldn`t one of those tough guys just rushed in and tackle the fucking dude ???
they shot a tazer to the face right before. which didnt work. apparently you need But darts to hit in order for the tazer to work.. Why the fuck would you aim at the head when that's required... seems like One hit which he ripped of right away and the second missed him.
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If he felt the need to shoot the guy,which I think was totally fucking wrong,why not just shoot him once in the leg?
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the fucking idiot made made a gesture like he was gonna rush that cop. that's when trigger happy stepped up. serves him right really :-\
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it's funny that peopel think we live in a world that's different from before, where figures of authority should somehow risk themselves to save the lives of people who aim to undermine their authority
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If it was a black dude would you think different?
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If he felt the need to shoot the guy,which I think was totally fucking wrong,why not just shoot him once in the leg?
You could argue its a bit excessive at first. BUT he did Raise the weapon (at least begin to) againt the officer and thats a NO NO and even I know that. But that would warrent One shot at least.. ...but 11?
Why not aim for the legs as you mentioned, or at least wait a split second before firing 10 more shots.
I wish they would shoot fuckers this easy in Sweden. Not the 11 shots but one non leathal.
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Fuck him.
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My question is, if he had to shoot him.. Why did he shoot him more then 3 times? During the third shot the fella is Falling down obviously Not posing any threat (you could even tell after the first shot he lowered the weapon) But no, 8 shots more, even when hes down on the ground :-\
You shoot until he's no longer a threat
I read about a cop who came across some dude in the mall parking lot just sitting their idling his truck , the cop pulled up asked if everything was okay , dude opened fired on the cop , the cop shot him SEVENTEEN times and that fucker was still trying to shoot the cop !!
very hard to kill with one shot. I watched this video multiple times and it's a clean kill , dude raised the weapon up and cocked back , I would have shot him too.
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If it was a black dude would you think different?
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You shoot until he's no longer a threat
After 3 shots hes facing the other way obviously hurting and no one is within striking range of his weapon. No longer posinga threat.. They could have shot, while backing a few steps so if he didnt go down and went against them Then they could shoot more. Not just everything at once...
Imo.
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well what do you expect when you attack a cop with a crowbar?
Are you guys retarded or something.
Cop kept his gun out the holster even after shooting that retard cause anyone could have jumped out of nowhere, especially outside, a friend of said shot guy etc. Better be ready if needed you never know. Maybe he could have been a robber being part of a gang with others guys waiting in a car or something.
BTW 9 mm -i guess that s what these cops use?- isnt the most powerful ammo... some guys need a lot of them in their bodies before letting it go. Especially fat, tall men on drugs or alchool.
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I take that as a yes ::)
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After 3 shots hes facing the other way obviously hurting and no one is within striking range of his weapon. No longer posinga threat.. They could have shot, while backing a few steps so if he didnt go down and went against them Then they could shoot more. Not just everything at once...
Imo.
I thought the other 5 shots was a bit excessive , but the guy could have dropped his weapon and complied and he would have been alive. He chose his path
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Should have just let the dog go.......I mean what was the purpose of having the dog there if they weren't going to use it
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when cop shoot they shoot to kill not to hurt end of the story
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Should have just let the dog go.......I mean what was the purpose of having the dog there if they weren't going to use it
who do you think wins in a fight between a dog and a crazy man with a crowbar?
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who do you think wins in a fight between a dog and a crazy man with a crowbar?
That dog would. Would attack the arm he held the bar and wouldn't be able to do anything at all. and then the cops goes in.
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That dog would.
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What a dumba$$. When cops draw their guns, you better not even sneeze to hard around them let alone turn around like you are going to club one of them.
Idiot wanted to die imo. No sympathy vote here.
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I'm proud of what the cops did here. This criminal had it coming.
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I take that as a yes ::)
No
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I'm proud of what the cops did here. This criminal had it coming.
Would you say the same thing if he was black? ;D
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You could argue its a bit excessive at first. BUT he did Raise the weapon (at least begin to) againt the officer and thats a NO NO and even I know that. But that would warrent One shot at least.. ...but 11?
Why not aim for the legs as you mentioned, or at least wait a split second before firing 10 more shots.
I wish they would shoot fuckers this easy in Sweden. Not the 11 shots but one non leathal.
21 feet is the accepted rule in police circles. That's considered the deadly range when facing off against someone with a deadly weapon, once they advance on a officer at that range, it's at the officer's discretion whether to shoot or not.
As to the amount of shots? It was a lot, but folks don't magically stop when shot, and I won't second guess a a cop with adrenaline pumping through his veins and a armed perp that's getting violent.
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Tons of cops one guy with crowbar........no need to shoot to kill........sorry,but unecessary IMO.
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Tons of cops one guy with crowbar........no need to shoot to kill........sorry,but unecessary IMO.
You have to say if that guy put down the crowbar he wouldn't have been shot.
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If he felt the need to shoot the guy,which I think was totally fucking wrong,why not just shoot him once in the leg?
this.
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Tons of cops one guy with crowbar........no need to shoot to kill........sorry,but unecessary IMO.
true, but he knew the score.
now if that happened over here. the police would have made him a nice cup of tea and have a chat with him until he calmed down :)
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would never give a cop the satisfaction of shooting me. he s gonna now go and brag about it with his cop buddies for the rest of his life. the aim is to make the job of the cop the most boring profession on earth.
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How would Adonis frame this? "Not like he was going to write Beethoven's Fifth."
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cop carrying the gun around afterward = no no.
There are 10+ cops on the scene. the bad guy is cuffed or bleeding or whatever as they put on gloves to assist him.
The shooter no longer needs his hot hand and jacked up mind being the shooter in any situation. Put the gun down, sit down, and let the other 9 cops handle the bleeding dude.
I am fine with cops shooting bad guys who make threats - but that walk around with your piece like it's your cawk for minutes? My brother shot a bad guy, and as soon as they fled, he emptied his weapon, put on counter and waited for police. He didn't stand there like a badass waiting for the next paper target to emerge.
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if the pigs were so in danger of the crowbar why were they so close to the suspect ???
Its pretty simple... pigs are taught in Police Acad. to SHOT TO KILL
be it bullets, clubs, or fist
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Well dead guys dont sue and a ton of money saved not feeding and giving that piece of shit free room and board just so he can do it again when he gets out.
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You guys are fucking idiots. Who cares how many times they shot him? Would you not shoot someone who is about to hit you in the face with a crowbar? Sometimes cops use excessive force, yes. this is not an example of that.
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You guys are fucking idiots. Who cares how many times they shot him? Would you not shoot someone who is about to hit you in the face with a crowbar? Sometimes cops use excessive force, yes. this is not an example of that.
so why are they trained in hand to hand combat? why do they have hand cuffs? billy clubs? stun guns? pepper spray? k-9 german shepard ??? ??? ???.
why go for the gun first?
See suspect,
Shot suspect,
Hand cuff him
Let him die
Officers of the Peace ::) ::) ::)
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Fuck him.
This.
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If he felt the need to shoot the guy,which I think was totally fucking wrong,why not just shoot him once in the leg?
1, a leg would be very hard to hit under high stress situation like this. 2, after wounding the perp in the leg he would have sued the cops for maiming him. 3, perp rushed the one cop with weapon, each cop shot 4 times.
the real question is................ why didnt they let the dog loose on the perp?
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My question is, if he had to shoot him.. Why did he shoot him more then 3 times? During the third shot the fella is Falling down obviously Not posing any threat (you could even tell after the first shot he lowered the weapon) But no, 8 shots more, even when hes down on the ground :-\
sad, but unfortunately justified.. as soon as you pose a threat to the safety and security of officers, they have the right to shoot you, its fucked up, some of them have decency to shoot you oin the leg, other assholes like these rent-a-cops go for the kill so they can get their 15 mins
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If he felt the need to shoot the guy,which I think was totally fucking wrong,why not just shoot him once in the leg?
They must go through some kind of rigorous training where they are taught that any guy on teh street is less than human. How do you murder a guy while at your job then go home and play with your kids?
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I know the guy was more than likely scum,but I still think it was just a tad excessive! ;D
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he wont recover
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bunch of retards in this thread.....
why didnt they shoot him in the leg
they shot too many times
why were they so close
go to a gun range, look at the target, is the 10x right above his knee cap?
if hes good for one shot, he's good for 10
shoulda been shot for going to carls anyway....shittest fries on the planet
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I don't really like Carls Jr so I am sort of glad they shot that guy.
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This leg shit......cops aren't trained to shoot in the leg just like I wasn't trained to shoot there in the service. It's all about hitting center mass and shutting a muhfukka DOWN! ;D
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lets see the experts here hit a leg under high stress situation. wont happen.
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Looks good to me....clean shot. I feel terrible.for.the.police officers. It's hoing to be mentality hard for them.
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You shoot until he's no longer a threat
I read about a cop who came across some dude in the mall parking lot just sitting their idling his truck , the cop pulled up asked if everything was okay , dude opened fired on the cop , the cop shot him SEVENTEEN times and that fucker was still trying to shoot the cop !!
very hard to kill with one shot. I watched this video multiple times and it's a clean kill , dude raised the weapon up and cocked back , I would have shot him too.
I'm the first guy to bash cops when necessary, but this post^ is spot on. You get hit in the head with a crowbar, you are fucked if not dead. When a cop shoots, he shoots to kill. Another thing is they have no idea if the guy with a crowbar had a partner in crime. Cops needed to secure the place. The fact that there's a couple of young people in a car pointing something in there direction(camera)makes me believe that the cops had to act so quick that the area wasn't exactly secure.
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lets see the experts here hit a leg under high stress situation. wont happen.
The only cops who would take a leg shot would be a sniper in a totally different situation. The cop here who took the first shot may have saved his partner from having a pipe to the head. You know we lived in a fucked up world where some kids in a car and video tape a guy getting shot the fuck up at basically close blank range and the kids start laughing. :-\
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so why are they trained in hand to hand combat? why do they have hand cuffs? billy clubs? stun guns? pepper spray? k-9 german shepard ??? ??? ???.
why go for the gun first?
See suspect,
Shot suspect,
Hand cuff him
Let him die
Officers of the Peace ::) ::) ::)
he was no more than 5 feet away weilding a crowbar. sorry, a crowbar can kill someone in one shot. the cop did the right thing.
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Americans are soft as puppy shit. The kid had it coming. Toss that corpse in the pile and move on.
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Americans are soft as puppy shit. The kid had it coming. Toss that corpse in the pile and move on.
how is Pakistan ?
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You could argue its a bit excessive at first. BUT he did Raise the weapon (at least begin to) againt the officer and thats a NO NO and even I know that. But that would warrent One shot at least.. ...but 11?
Why not aim for the legs as you mentioned, or at least wait a split second before firing 10 more shots.
I wish they would shoot fuckers this easy in Sweden. Not the 11 shots but one non leathal.
Cops are trained to aim for the center mass.
That's what you do when you shoot someone.
I don't recommend taking a crowbar to the head... They can only bash your skull in.
Did it take 8 bullets? Obviously not, but in this instance, the cop is not in the wrong.
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He wanted to die..period. Suicide by Cop. Welcome to Monterey Park/E. LA.
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fuck him
everyone know how to tell the cops how to do their job
be dif if that clown was going to brain one of you then see how your internet tactics would work
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After thinking about this thread and reading posts from you guys,I have to agree that he definately had to be stopped.
I sure as hell wouldn`t want a crowbar smashed into my mug!
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fuck him
everyone know how to tell the cops how to do their job
be dif if that clown was going to brain one of you then see how your internet tactics would work
yup
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They could of used a non lethal option first. They had the guy outnumbered. He was prob mentally ill. Sick the dog on him or nail him with a taser. I hate cops so this kind of shit bothers me.
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A. Any fuckhead with a gun pointed at them, not immediately complying with orders is a Darwinism award winner.
B. Cops are trigger happy. In a typical cop career it's rare for them to draw their gun, much less shoot it. Most cops (and I know a few) are not proficient with their weapons.
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sorry nothing wrong.
you are cop, the guy is a criminal threating your life.
If he didnt shoot his friend could be death right now. You americans cry for everything, lol. CRIMINAL is a CRIMINAL, the cops gave him the chance to throw that shit out.
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epic fucking law enforcement bro science here
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shoot was fine.
then put the fcking gun away. youre not a badass. you don't need it in your head for 2-3 mintues after shooting. at that point, a guy can sneeze and he might draw up. put the gun away after you shoot, champ.
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Anyone stupid enough to rush a cop with a crowbar surrounded by his cop buddies is too stupid to live.
+1 for mankind.
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a few of you are very naive in this thread...the reason you don't " shoot for the leg, is that you have no guarantee even if you hit him, that he doesn't draw a weapon in his waistband,etc...
You also don't want him to be ABLE to draw a hidden weapon, if you should miss....you are trained to hit the largest part of the target...
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a few of you are very naive in this thread...the reason you don't " shoot for the leg, is that you have no guarantee even if you hit him, that he doesn't draw a weapon in his waistband,etc...
You also don't want him to be ABLE to draw a hidden weapon, if you should miss....you are trained to hit the largest part of the target...
Good points Bob...........I never thought of that.
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a few of you are very naive in this thread...the reason you don't " shoot for the leg, is that you have no guarantee even if you hit him, that he doesn't draw a weapon in his waistband,etc...
You also don't want him to be ABLE to draw a hidden weapon, if you should miss....you are trained to hit the largest part of the target...
Good post. And the fact that if you miss the leg, do you really know whats standing 50 yards behind him. Probably lots of on lookers in that road way.
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a few of you are very naive in this thread...the reason you don't " shoot for the leg, is that you have no guarantee even if you hit him, that he doesn't draw a weapon in his waistband,etc...
You also don't want him to be ABLE to draw a hidden weapon, if you should miss....you are trained to hit the largest part of the target...
Bicep for most bodybuilders.
We'll never know what really went on... maybe the dude just finished Halflife2 and wanted some burgers?
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Personally, I would have tried to shoot him in the leg, but he did have a crow bar and was coming at him and like everyone stated the cop had adrenaline coming in hard after the first shot so he wants to make sure the guy is down, stupid cop?... yes,... should he get in trouble?.... I think everything was by the books, so no. A soldier would have stopped after shooting him once cause they have more appropriate training and they can control their adrenaline a bit better
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No you wouldnt onetime hard dont fool yourself.
You know how you dont get shot 8 times by the cops? I do. ::)
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For those commenting on the cops actions after the shooting.. Keep in mind they're without a doubt going threw fight or flight reactions. They were probably unaware of what they were doing due to the massive amounts of adrenaline,excitement, and nervousness. You have no idea how many thoughts come rushing into your head after a shooting, let alone what your body's going threw. ''Did I make the right decision, what are the consequences going to be, am I going to be sued,I just ended a life, fuck now I gotta do paperwork, fuck now I gotta do overtime.''
''honey I wont be home tonight, is she gonna be fucking some other dude? FUCK
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a few of you are very naive in this thread...the reason you don't " shoot for the leg, is that you have no guarantee even if you hit him, that he doesn't draw a weapon in his waistband,etc...
You also don't want him to be ABLE to draw a hidden weapon, if you should miss....you are trained to hit the largest part of the target...
thanks Bob,kinda what i said. there is no "shoot the leg" in a high stress situation. maiming the perp will only make him rich once they go to court and all that shit.
perp cocked back on the officer and paid for it. as for the amount of shots, as many as it takes for him to go down.
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They could of used a non lethal option first. They had the guy outnumbered. He was prob mentally ill. Sick the dog on him or nail him with a taser. I hate cops so this kind of shit bothers me.
1) As previously mentioned, they tazed him first and it failed. 2)the police dogs' life is more valuable than this low-life scumbag weilding a crowbar. He could smash the dogs' skull with it. I am honestly baffled by how you people are reacting to this video.
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1) As previously mentioned, they tazed him first and it failed. 2)the police dogs' life is more valuable than this low-life scumbag weilding a crowbar. He could smash the dogs' skull with it. I am honestly baffled by how you people are reacting to this video.
the issue is where does it stop? one day theyre shooting low life scum, the next they wave their pistols around our faces. thats the issue. who are the cops to decide who is scum and who is not scum in the heat of the moment? trigger happy cops should be stationed on the NYc subwayy. there they can shoot all the troublemakers they like as far as imm concerned.
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These cops should be given commendations. The plan A was to taze him. If that doesn't work, then plan B. Shoot him. Plan A didn't work, the K9 officer saw his partner about to get smashed, so he put the perp down. Job well done. For his actions, his partner will now be able to go home to his family.
As for the wieners who are crying about leg shots. Officers are not trained to wound perps with their firearms, they're trained to end the threat as quickly as possible. Shoot to kill. That is exactly what happened. They ended the threat quickly. And for that, they all get to go home to their families. Any firearms instructor will tell you the same thing. You never pull the trigger on someone unless you're trying to kill them.
I love happy stories like this.
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For those commenting on the cops actions after the shooting.. Keep in mind they're without a doubt going threw fight or flight reactions. They were probably unaware of what they were doing due to the massive amounts of adrenaline,excitement, and nervousness. You have no idea how many thoughts come rushing into your head after a shooting, let alone what your body's going threw. ''Did I make the right decision, what are the consequences going to be, am I going to be sued,I just ended a life, fuck now I gotta do paperwork, fuck now I gotta do overtime.''
''honey I wont be home tonight, is she gonna be fucking some other dude? FUCK
what did you think about the jacked up cop, having just smoked some guy, carrying his gun around in his hand, in that agitated state, when there were 10 other cops on the scene keeping their weapons holstered?
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I can understand shooting the leg isn't the smartest.
Not arguing the shooting. Just think it was a little bit too many shots. But maybe he wanted to die. When he was on the ground he could have used the dog instead of 4 more shots etc.
Why would the cop that shot the tazer aim for the head? Do they learn that in training? isn't it smarter to try and make sure both darts connects?
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these are the american ndaa martial cops. Everyone's a terrorist, citiziens are all bad and the cops are shaking looking at regular citiziens as if they are about transform into giant demon gods or something, that's how it is.
Truthfully I want to stay as far as possible from america, the shit you guys have going on ther now is fucking insane. Not because this crowbar video but in general.
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firing at the legs means more potential ricochets on the ground... obviously you guys have no clue about ballistics or secure firearms use, simply cause you never ever had a gun in your hands for that matter. Just talking out of your asses like neutered unemployed teens with no father figures raised by single moms. Real life isnt a video game you turds.
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:'(
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firing at the legs means more potential ricochets on the ground... obviously you guys have no clue about ballistics or secure firearms use, simply cause you never ever had a gun in your hands for that matter. Just talking out of your asses like neutered unemployed teens with no father figures raised by single moms. Real life isnt a video game you turds.
Irony alert
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firing at the legs means more potential ricochets on the ground... obviously you guys have no clue about ballistics or secure firearms use, simply cause you never ever had a gun in your hands for that matter. Just talking out of your asses like neutered unemployed teens with no father figures raised by single moms. Real life isnt a video game you turds.
I am sure you are always getting into gun fights nipple head
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Irony alert
Thats all he does, all day, projecting stuff about himself lol. Everything that he has ever claimed about someone else, Has happening tp him. 100% of it.
WHY DAD WHY ;D
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If you watch you'll see his attack is a little weird. It looks like he just wanted to scare the cop who was too close to him. He takes a step closer, stops right there, boom boom boom boom boom. ???
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If you watch you'll see his attack is a little weird. It looks like he just wanted to scare the cop who was too close to him. He takes a step closer, stops right there, boom boom boom boom boom. ???
Hmm, that sounds like a sound game plan. I'm gonna scare these armed cops with a crowbar. That'll show em who's boss.
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If you watch you'll see his attack is a little weird. It looks like he just wanted to scare the cop who was too close to him. He takes a step closer, stops right there, boom boom boom boom boom. ???
Cops aren't here to decipher your intentions , you act like you're gonna attack don't be surprised when they shoot you.
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'm actually surprised there are so many retards here chastising the cops.
Don't want to get shot? Don't motion like you are going to swing a fucking crowbar at a cop when they have their guns drawn, especially when you are within feet of them and they have already tried to subdue you with non-lethal force.
I wonder how many of these retards would feel the same way if this guy was about to swing a fucking crowbar at their mother. Would they still say they should just shoot for the legs? Or just try and tackle him?
Gross lack of critical thinking once again at GB.
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Burger King.
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The most upsetting thing to me about this video is that the assholes filming it couldn't turn on their windshield wipers so we could see what the fuck they are filming.
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LOL at all the idiots in here who have never handled a gun (Unemployed hobbit) try holding a dog back and shooting at someones leg who is moving around with one hand and see how easy it is to hit, even at 10 feet.