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Title: Lordosis - has anybody here successfully cured himself of it?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 02, 2012, 02:33:21 PM
So this is caused by weak hamstrings, tight erector spinae, tight psoas, tight quadriceps, weak elongated abdominals IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.  solution should be increase hamstring strength, abdominal strength, increase psoas, quadriceps, and erector spinae flexibility.  sounds easy enough........

i've been trying to do this for months and no results .  fuck




Lordosis is a medical term used to describe an inward curvature of a portion of the lumbar and cervical vertebral column.[1] Two segments of the vertebral column, namely cervical and lumbar, are normally lordotic, that is, they are set in a curve that has its convexity anteriorly (the front) and concavity posteriorly (behind), in the context of human anatomy. When referring to the anatomy of other mammals, the direction of the curve is termed ventral. Curvature in the opposite direction, that is, apex posteriorly (humans) or dorsally (mammals) is termed kyphosis. Excessive or hyperlordosis is commonly referred to as swayback or saddle back, a term that originates from the similar condition that arises in some horses.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Rance on February 02, 2012, 02:50:38 PM
good question
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Voland on February 02, 2012, 02:52:58 PM
try bosu balls.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 02, 2012, 02:53:15 PM
when you look at the weak and the right muscles


it seems pretty apparent this is caused by squats and deadlifts over the years, while neglecting ab work, ham work, and flexibility work


the curse of neglecting the "details"
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: kh300 on February 02, 2012, 02:53:46 PM
Most getbiggers are trying to cure themselves of AIDS.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: wes on February 02, 2012, 02:55:01 PM
Reverse Hperextension Machine....thank me later.

Rehabbed my back great.....went from using 25 pounds on it to 200 for reps over time.

My lower back is a mess but it`s much better after doing reverse hypers on the machine.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 02, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
Reverse Hperextension Machine....thank me later.

Rehabbed my back great.....went from using 25 pounds on it to 200 for reps over time.

My lower back is a mess but it`s much better after doing reverse hypers on the machine.

reverse hyper extention machine.......


not familiar with this


is it a spinal erector exercise or abdominal exercise?
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Voland on February 02, 2012, 02:56:55 PM
reverse hyper extention machine.......


not familiar with this


is it a spinal erector exercise or abdominal exercise?

Its like a roman chair the other way around.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: wes on February 02, 2012, 03:00:19 PM
(http://www.drkurtanderson.com/resources/_wsb_231x174_Reverse_Hyper.JPG)

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/emails/2007/WeeklyDoseNov9th/image016.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/henkin16f.jpg)
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: wes on February 02, 2012, 03:01:00 PM
Works the whole posterior chain,with the emphasis on hams,glutes,erectors.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 02, 2012, 03:01:41 PM
(http://www.drkurtanderson.com/resources/_wsb_231x174_Reverse_Hyper.JPG)

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/emails/2007/WeeklyDoseNov9th/image016.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/henkin16f.jpg)

so this is like goodmornings? a hamstring and spinal erector exercise?

mostly hamstring? that would be good
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Man of Steel on February 02, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
At first this thread read like a hit on Christianity....."lordosis".  Was ready to throw down some theology LOL!!


Unfortunately I have no advice for your condition, but hope you can find a solution.  God Bless!!

Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: wes on February 02, 2012, 03:04:38 PM
The one at our gym is plate loaded and probably very expensive.....has worked wonders on my back as far as strengthening it and less pain as a result.

You lay on it,and slowly lift your legs up until you reach the top,then lower under control.

Works the whole posterior chain....I feel it mostly in hams and glutes,but erectors are worked at the top of the exercises.

I usually do regular hypers right after these.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Man of Steel on February 02, 2012, 03:06:53 PM
I would look like a whale outta water on that thing.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: dr.chimps on February 02, 2012, 03:07:47 PM
At first this thread read like a hit on Christianity....."lordosis".  Was ready to throw down some theology LOL!!

Unfortunately I have no advice for your condition, but hope you can find a solution.  God Bless!!
Be like MOS going after the temple money lenders. Rocket Robin Hood-type violence.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Man of Steel on February 02, 2012, 03:09:26 PM
Be like MOS going after the temple money lenders. Rocket Robin Hood-type violence.

Jesus SON!!
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: dr.chimps on February 02, 2012, 03:10:18 PM
I have a bad lower back. I've found that working it hard/heavy is shit. Keeping it flexible/loose is key. I like the stick twists. Find what works for you, and make it part of your routine. Good luck.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: wes on February 02, 2012, 03:13:18 PM
I have a bad lower back. I've found that working it hard/heavy is shit. Keeping it flexible/loose is key. I like the stick twists. Find what works for you, and make it part of your routine. Good luck.
Loose and flexible would probably be the answer........I`m always gonna` start stretching this coming Monday.

It`s been about 5 years now and it`s always this coming Monday I`ll start stretching!!!

I feel like the Tin Man covered in rust.  :(
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: dr.chimps on February 02, 2012, 03:15:58 PM
Loose and flexible would probably be the answer........I`m always gonna` start stretching this coming Monday.

It`s been about 5 years now and it`s always this coming Monday I`ll start stretching!!!

I feel like the Tin Man covered in rust.  :(
When I say 'stretching' I just mean one, good one when I've finished. 20-45 secs, or so. Just enough to feel some pain, and settle on the pub for lunch.  ;D
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: wes on February 02, 2012, 03:17:34 PM
I could probably manage that then!  ;D
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: LATS on February 02, 2012, 03:30:29 PM
 although i agree that the reverse hyper is the best exercise for the whole chain.. ya have to determine if the lordosis is caused by imbalance or genetic structure.. if its you bone structure you can help it from getting worse but never change or alter it..
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Voland on February 02, 2012, 03:31:34 PM
I cured myself successfully of the Lord of the Rings.  :-\ :P ;D
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Raymondo on February 02, 2012, 03:35:00 PM
LOL,

PNS what do I see here? You suffer from lordosis, this week?
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: HTexan on February 02, 2012, 03:49:22 PM
i had to google lordosis. lol
Seems to be a flexibility issue as well. How about doing physical therapy?
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: apply85 on February 02, 2012, 03:52:07 PM
squats and deads while neglecting hamstrings? not possible
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 02, 2012, 03:58:07 PM
Greg Kovacs fixed his by picking up refrigerators "naked" in front of paying schmo's twice a week for a decade.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 02, 2012, 11:23:11 PM
The one at our gym is plate loaded and probably very expensive.....has worked wonders on my back as far as strengthening it and less pain as a result.

You lay on it,and slowly lift your legs up until you reach the top,then lower under control.

Works the whole posterior chain....I feel it mostly in hams and glutes,but erectors are worked at the top of the exercises.

I usually do regular hypers right after these.

i'm pretty sure my spinal erectors and glutes are already strong from all those squats


problem with my gym is the hamstring machine is way too weak

so i'm forced to do super slow reps with it to be able to reach "failure" after a dozen or so reps


i think this is the problem, leg is super quadricep dominant, this together with weak saggy abs and tight back => lordosis


by the way seems like everybody who lifts weights has this but they dont care or are oblivious about it
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 02, 2012, 11:25:28 PM
squats and deads while neglecting hamstrings? not possible

my quadriceps and glutes always have soreness

hamstrings never


this means the hamstring activation is pretty low in these lifts
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 02, 2012, 11:26:10 PM
Greg Kovacs fixed his by picking up refrigerators "naked" in front of paying schmo's twice a week for a decade.

he did g4p with jay cutler? wtf man
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 02, 2012, 11:41:13 PM
i think overgrown glute also seem it make worse from the side

even when i flex my abs and gluts to make the back as straight as possible the ass still protrudes a huge amount behind the back
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Voland on February 03, 2012, 01:37:33 AM
i think overgrown glute also seem it make worse from the side

even when i flex my abs and gluts to make the back as straight as possible the ass still protrudes a huge amount behind the back

Stop taking it doggy. That should help.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: BigCyp on February 03, 2012, 01:49:50 AM
At first this thread read like a hit on Christianity....."lordosis".  Was ready to throw down some theology LOL!!


Unfortunately I have no advice for your condition, but hope you can find a solution.  God Bless!!



Yes MOS, I didn't realise we were brothers  ;D God is faithful.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: epicmass on February 03, 2012, 02:45:54 AM


i've been trying to do this for months and no results




This type of problem builds up over a long time and can take a long time to sort out. Stick with it. I had lower back issues that took me 2 years to sort out. For me, working hams more, streching hip flexors/lower back, and continuing to do deads/squats sorted me out.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 03, 2012, 03:42:17 AM
try bosu balls.

You're thinking of ben wa balls.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Rhomboids on February 03, 2012, 04:23:21 AM
when you look at the weak and the right muscles


it seems pretty apparent this is caused by squats and deadlifts over the years, while neglecting ab work, ham work, and flexibility work


the curse of neglecting the "details"

I have the exact same condition and from neglecting what you're pointing out.  I'm back doing situps after each workout.  I see a message therapist once a while and was told i had Lordosis?  I'm working on rounding out my back.  When i roll on my spine it hurts like hell but it feels good - like i've neglected doing it.  And i have. 

I've been doing those gay hip thrust movements but they alleviate the condition somewhat. 

Glad you brought this subject up. 
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: CalvinH on February 03, 2012, 06:01:05 AM
(http://www.drkurtanderson.com/resources/_wsb_231x174_Reverse_Hyper.JPG)

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/emails/2007/WeeklyDoseNov9th/image016.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/henkin16f.jpg)



These pics were so good till you posted the last one....
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: wes on February 03, 2012, 07:26:02 AM
I had to appease the gay audience.
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Post by: ob205 on February 03, 2012, 10:54:17 AM
Lordosis is mainly caused by the lower cross syndrome (anterior pelvic tilt).  There are some good articles on the web about it.  I think foam rolling the hip flexors and stretching will help this. 

good article below

http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com/2009/11/5-simple-exercises-for-correcting.html (http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com/2009/11/5-simple-exercises-for-correcting.html)
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: wes on February 03, 2012, 11:07:14 AM
Try Stiff-Legged deadlifts while standing on a bench.
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Post by: apply85 on February 03, 2012, 11:11:19 AM
i have posterior pelvic tilt, makes my butt look small. help
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: wes on February 03, 2012, 11:18:46 AM
i have posterior pelvic tilt, makes my butt look small. help
;D

Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on February 03, 2012, 01:06:41 PM
so this is caused by weak hamstrings, tight erector spinae, tight psoas, tight quadriceps, weak elongated abdominals IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY

solution should be increase hamstring strength, abdominal strength, increase psoas, quadriceps, and erector spinae flexibility


sounds easy enough........


i've been trying to do this for months and no results


fuck




Dont you mean lardassis?
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 04, 2012, 02:17:19 AM
This type of problem builds up over a long time and can take a long time to sort out. Stick with it. I had lower back issues that took me 2 years to sort out. For me, working hams more, streching hip flexors/lower back, and continuing to do deads/squats sorted me out.

great, so it works exactly like what i'm trying to do


just takes more time and effort


good to know i'm doing something that's going to work
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: hematocritter on February 04, 2012, 02:31:13 AM
I have it pretty bad, been to chiros and deep tissue massage therapists, but
didn't have much luck with it.
This site has some good resources....
http://www.exrx.net/Kinesiology/Posture.html

In my case, quads are tight as hell and hamstrings are weak.
Abdominals are weak and need to be trained hard and heavy.
I was told deep, deep leg presses are helpful.....use light enough
weight for slow, controlled reps and hold at the bottom.
Lunges help too, but everyone thinks they're gay.

I paid a strength trainer to put together a list of exercises for postural issues;
he consulted with physical therapists, ART practitioners, and other strength
coaches and basically consolidated it for me.

If you want to PM me I can send you some files on stretches and various
exercises that help fix imbalances.
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 04, 2012, 02:59:11 AM
I have it pretty bad, been to chiros and deep tissue massage therapists, but
didn't have much luck with it.
This site has some good resources....
http://www.exrx.net/Kinesiology/Posture.html

In my case, quads are tight as hell and hamstrings are weak.
Abdominals are weak and need to be trained hard and heavy.
I was told deep, deep leg presses are helpful.....use light enough
weight for slow, controlled reps and hold at the bottom.
Lunges help too, but everyone thinks they're gay.

I paid a strength trainer to put together a list of exercises for postural issues;
he consulted with physical therapists, ART practitioners, and other strength
coaches and basically consolidated it for me.

If you want to PM me I can send you some files on stretches and various
exercises that help fix imbalances.

basically it comes down to stretching psoas, spinal erectors, quads, and strengthening abdominals and hamstrings right


i don't have an extreme case anyway, no doctor has ever commented on it, but when i see myself relaxed from the side i realize i have it


99% of bodybuilders have this in my observations

thanks for thelink very interesting
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: hematocritter on February 04, 2012, 03:13:43 AM
thanks for thelink very interesting

no prob.
I now many people here hate T-nation, but they had a series called 'Neanderthal No More' about
fixing imbalances. It helped me a bit.
This is the routine itself I think, there are a few other articles in the series.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/neanderthal_no_more_part_iv;jsessionid=CC7F34DA0596BCB7E093193D9E8D8427-mcd02.hydra

My next attempt will be getting rolfing done....a practitioner in my area claims he can fix it. We'll see.
Title: Re: Lordosis - has anybody here successfully cured himself of it?
Post by: arce1988 on February 04, 2012, 07:09:44 PM
:D
Title: Re: has anybody here successfully cured himself of lordosis?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2012, 07:19:06 PM
Works the whole posterior chain,with the emphasis on hams,glutes,erectors.

That is your posterior chain ;)
Title: Re: Lordosis - has anybody here successfully cured himself of it?
Post by: Cashfan on February 05, 2012, 10:19:34 AM
Dont be silly Coachski, this is your posterior chain.