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Title: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: hardgainerj on February 18, 2012, 10:03:19 AM


1:30
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: beverast on February 18, 2012, 10:12:09 AM
Rip is a funny guy.

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Wit_and_Wisdom_of_Mark_Rippetoe
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: wes on February 18, 2012, 10:14:53 AM
He`s big at bb.com
::)
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: hardgainerj on February 18, 2012, 10:18:47 AM
He`s big at bb.com
::)
and pretty much everywhere else
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Raymondo on February 18, 2012, 10:22:28 AM


1:30

Quite obvious, innit?
He's not using hip drive, therefore not putting much pressure on the legs,
He's just pushing his arse backwards and bends his back

Also the bar is way too high for a tall guy with proportions of Arnold.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: wes on February 18, 2012, 10:31:23 AM
and pretty much everywhere else
Not here.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: hardgainerj on February 18, 2012, 10:43:23 AM
Not here.
youre right its GH13 here
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 18, 2012, 10:44:13 AM
He`s big at bb.com
::)

not really as far as i recall

he's a god on 4chan fitness

lay nortom used to be the man at bb.com


now he has taken big blows by gh15

then scot mendelson came along in bb.com and started a thread stating there is no way in hell natural graham is natural

he was not allowed to speak out on lay notron but people with normal intellect can connect the dots since lay notron is supposedly a higher level bodybuilder than natural graham


nowadays there is also a dude that represents i_force steroids nutrition


he talks a lot of propaganda of the fake bodybuilding cult like lay notron but his stats and picture is a dead giveaway about his status


when called out on this he goes like "i never said i was natral"

Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: NineGeez on February 18, 2012, 10:47:20 AM
not really as far as i recall

he's a god on 4chan fitness

lay nortom used to be the man at bb.com


now he has taken big blows by gh15

then scot mendelson came along in bb.com and started a thread stating there is no way in hell natural graham is natural

he was not allowed to speak out on lay notron but people with normal intellect can connect the dots since lay notron is supposedly a higher level bodybuilder than natural graham


nowadays there is also a dude that represents i_force steroids nutrition


he talks a lot of propaganda of the fake bodybuilding cult like lay notron but his stats and picture is a dead giveaway about his status


when called out on this he goes like "i never said i was natral"



dustie henshaw?
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 18, 2012, 10:49:25 AM
dustie henshaw?

i force dave

has a contest pic up and listed as 230lbs

preaches hard work and dedication


chicken brokli

nowadays i think 50% or more of their members read gh15 and interest in these topics are decreasing


Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Voland on February 18, 2012, 11:07:02 AM
riptoe, another filt. squat squat squat he always looked like shit.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Red Hook on February 18, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
dude, umm..you know that Arnold hasn't competed in years right?
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 18, 2012, 11:10:58 AM
riptoe, another filt. squat squat squat he always looked like shit.

what's wrong with teaching people proper form?

nothing
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Voland on February 18, 2012, 11:22:55 AM
what's wrong with teaching people proper form?

nothing

you will be doomed with skinny legs.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: hardgainerj on February 18, 2012, 11:43:00 AM
you will be doomed with skinny legs.
tell that to every PLr, shmoehawk
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Fortress on February 18, 2012, 11:51:58 AM
True. Arnold was a SHITTY squatter.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Voland on February 18, 2012, 11:53:18 AM
tell that to every PLr, shmoehawk

strip down their fatty bodies and this is how their legs look

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2010/interview-ben-white-stan-efferding_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: WOOO on February 18, 2012, 11:55:54 AM
big nose
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Rami on February 18, 2012, 12:01:06 PM
know how to squat and look like a dump truck? or know how to win 7 mr. olympias?  ::)

choices...
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Voland on February 18, 2012, 12:03:01 PM
know how to squat and look like a dump truck? or know how to win 7 mr. olympias?  ::)

choices...

Who wouldn't take a stubby body and a beer gut over this
(http://i.rankingfamosos.com/imagenes/famosos/20110124/arnold-schwarzenegger-0.jpg)

some fat whale powerlifter would.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 18, 2012, 12:12:45 PM
you will be doomed with skinny legs.

my thighs overpower the rest of my "physique"


i dont understand what you mean

squatting is probably the best quadricep mass builder
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Voland on February 18, 2012, 12:15:17 PM
my thighs overpower the rest of my "physique"


i dont understand what you mean

squatting is probably the best quadricep mass builder

I have my pupils squatting dead last -if at all- 1 plate max and they all have great legs. Not just big bulky legs but separated, detailed great shaped legs. I laugh at squats and all their hype.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 18, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
my thighs overpower the rest of my "physique"


i dont understand what you mean

squatting is probably the best quadricep mass builder
Do you pre-exhaust with extensions first, PNS ?
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 18, 2012, 12:19:34 PM
I have my pupils squatting dead last -if at all- 1 plate max and they all have great legs. Not just big bulky legs but separated, detailed great shaped legs. I laugh at squats and all their hype.
obviously more than one way to build leg size

but squats is all i did for quads and they are my best part
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 18, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
Do you pre-exhaust with extensions first, PNS ?

no i only do squats 2-3 times a week typically and try to do leg curls and calf raises once a week mostly

a lot of people say they dont feel it in their quads but that's odd
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 18, 2012, 12:55:55 PM
I feel it much better in the quads after some pre-exhaust extensions. Doesn't have to be Mentzer style..
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 18, 2012, 12:57:38 PM
I feel it much better in the quads after some pre-exhaust extensions. Doesn't have to be Mentzer style..
i just dont understand how you could feel it anywhere but the quads

of course you need to make an effort to keep the back tight but....


never liked leg extensions or leg presses


i like hack squats but never do them
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 18, 2012, 01:20:48 PM
You want to learn to train with proper technique, you go to a strength coach. Period.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: hardgainerj on February 18, 2012, 01:23:50 PM
strip down their fatty bodies and this is how their legs look

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2010/interview-ben-white-stan-efferding_b.jpg)


im sure they care what they look like in a thong
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: jakesonyou on February 18, 2012, 01:24:03 PM
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a 7x Mr Olympia, movie star, and former governor of California.  He also has one of the best physiques of all time.

what does Mark Rippetoe have on him?
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: Dreadlifter on February 18, 2012, 01:36:31 PM
Guy speaks some sense

"I don't go to titty bars much anymore. They have never really appealed to me. Like going into an expensive restaurant, reading the menu for 2 hours, drinking a little, then getting up and leaving without having had anything to eat but paying the bill anyway."
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe implies that Arnold does not know how to squat
Post by: hardgainerj on February 18, 2012, 01:38:38 PM
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a 7x Mr Olympia, movie star, and former governor of California.  He also has one of the best physiques of all time.

what does Mark Rippetoe have on him?
where is the comparison Mark is not a BBr to begin with

if you want to discuss who wrote the better book

Starting Strength>The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: The_Infidel on February 18, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
How is Arnold going to build a championship physique when he squats like that?

Oh wait, that was 40 plus years ago and he was Mr Olympia 7 times......oops

F**k Arnold, how can I build a blocky disgusting powerlifter physique guaranteed to repel the opposite sex?  Maybe Mark Rippedballs will create another video for me.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 18, 2012, 02:38:17 PM
How is Arnold going to build a championship physique when he squats like that?

Oh wait, that was 40 plus years ago and he was Mr Olympia 7 times......oops

F**k Arnold, how can I build a blocky disgusting powerlifter physique guaranteed to repel the opposite sex?  Maybe Mark Rippedballs will create another video for me.

powerlifting squats are mostly about reducing range of motion to be able to lift more weight

Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: hardgainerj on February 18, 2012, 04:12:50 PM
powerlifting squats are mostly about reducing range of motion to be able to lift more weight


while mark acknowledges that adjustments in power lifting he does not endorse them he teaches the squat not a PL squat or 'BB squat'
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: bike nut on February 18, 2012, 04:24:38 PM
How is Arnold going to build a championship physique when he squats like that?

Oh wait, that was 40 plus years ago and he was Mr Olympia 7 times......oops

F**k Arnold, how can I build a blocky disgusting powerlifter physique guaranteed to repel the opposite sex?  Maybe Mark Rippedballs will create another video for me.

Dr. Fred Hatfield >>>>>>>> Mark Rippedtoe.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: BB on February 18, 2012, 05:04:00 PM
Finding what works for you > all the guru knowledge in the World.

Glenn Pedley teaches a different style than Rippetoe and has had more actual coaching success than Rippetoe, and I'm sure you can find any number of respected strength coaches that teach different than the both of them.

To para-phrase multi-time U.S. Olympic Weightlifting coach Jim Schmitz, "You try to teach them the form you want, but in the end, you go back to what fits the lifter best".

Rippetoe's a good coach, but his main appeal is to new lifters that never grew up on Bill Starr, etc...... He also appeals to guys that that need a tough daddy or uncle image to look up. They enjoy that gruff "do as I say" type coaching.

Seriously, look at his board, it's a bunch of guys having races to 2 plate x side bench presses and 3 plate squats.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: jr on February 18, 2012, 05:12:27 PM
If he dies will it be "RIP Rip"?
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: dogbowl on February 18, 2012, 05:20:21 PM
I'd like to see Arnie critique Rippetoes physique

Here is King Rippetoes greatest performance on video:



Rippetoe misleads people.  Newbies want to look lean and fit like this:
(http://theorytopractice.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/brad-pitt-fight-club-pic_opt.jpg)

but are instead pushed down a different path of squats and bulking so they can look like they do not work out (just like Rippetoe):
(http://www.rookiejournal.com/images2/why-gomad-is-the-most-ridiculous-diet-on-planet-earth-and-why-you-will-only_get-fat-on-it_0457.png)

Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: BB on February 18, 2012, 05:28:04 PM


but are instead pushed down a different path of squats and bulking so they can look like they do not work out (just like Rippetoe):
(http://www.rookiejournal.com/images2/why-gomad-is-the-most-ridiculous-diet-on-planet-earth-and-why-you-will-only_get-fat-on-it_0457.png)




How dare you doubt Coach Rip and GOMAD!1!1!!1!1!!!!
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 18, 2012, 05:33:14 PM
I'd like to see Arnie critique Rippetoes physique

Here is King Rippetoes greatest performance on video:



Rippetoe misleads people.  Newbies want to look lean and fit like this:
(http://theorytopractice.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/brad-pitt-fight-club-pic_opt.jpg)

but are instead pushed down a different path of squats and bulking so they can look like they do not work out (just like Rippetoe):
(http://www.rookiejournal.com/images2/why-gomad-is-the-most-ridiculous-diet-on-planet-earth-and-why-you-will-only_get-fat-on-it_0457.png)



this is what women want fool
(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/jeff-lewis.jpg)
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: qbkilla on February 18, 2012, 05:34:36 PM
rippetoe is nothing for a bodybuilder,,for a powerlifter maybe,,,,but those low volume squad and dead meat potatoes,,,what the fuck will that do for delts or biceps?  it will get you big thick and bloofy,,drinking gallons of milk.  i have my best gains and i dont touch a deadlift or squat because of my torn labrum,,and i can train with high volume injury free and i work my muscles and they grow big and full and lean.  you dont need dante and rippetoe heavy slag iron dragging sleds flipping tires squat squat squat deadlit deadlift,,,to look good as a bodybuilder,,,if you want to be as strong as an ox and look like a bloofy fat ox then yeah, but to look good and full and lean,,,you dont need that shit,,,and its an injury waiting to happen i know
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: hardgainerj on February 18, 2012, 05:44:11 PM
you dont need that shit,,,and its an injury waiting to happen i know
(http://www.probodybuildingweekly.com/tricep1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: wes on February 18, 2012, 05:45:57 PM
 ;)

Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 18, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
You clowns are comparing apples to oranges. You guys will argue anything.....even if it has nothing to do with one another, geez.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: maxkane69 on February 19, 2012, 12:45:36 AM
If you want to lift the maximum weight possible in the gym and have a garbage physique listen to Rippetoe!
If you want to look like a bodybuilder and have a great physique listen to Arnold!
I hope this helps! ;)
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 19, 2012, 01:28:34 AM
It can't be denied that nothing tests your mettle like a squat.
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: evandatp on February 19, 2012, 01:29:26 AM
If you want to lift the maximum weight possible in the gym and have a garbage physique listen to Rippetoe!
If you want to look like a bodybuilder and have a great physique listen to Arnold!
I hope this helps! ;)

I'm still waiting on Arnold's drug regimen & a copy of his genes.

Why on a board that is littered with posts of "all drugs" and "all genetics" do people still think that squatting as biomechanics intended will be the sole reason they become fat or blocky-waisted or remain skinny?

I hope suckmymuscle snaps your pets in half.

Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: Rhino on February 19, 2012, 03:03:10 AM
front squat ass to grass works well for b.b. quads
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: Rhino on February 19, 2012, 03:09:15 AM
btw front squat helps prevent bloofy dufus but
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: _bruce_ on February 19, 2012, 04:03:11 AM
I'm still waiting on Arnold's drug regimen & a copy of his genes.

Why on a board that is littered with posts of "all drugs" and "all genetics" do people still think that squatting as biomechanics intended will be the sole reason they become fat or blocky-waisted or remain skinny?

I hope suckmymuscle snaps your pets in half.



 :D
x2
Title: Re: Mark Rippetoe critiques Arnold's squat
Post by: deceiver on February 19, 2012, 04:27:10 AM
How is Arnold going to build a championship physique when he squats like that?

Oh wait, that was 40 plus years ago and he was Mr Olympia 7 times......oops

F**k Arnold, how can I build a blocky disgusting powerlifter physique guaranteed to repel the opposite sex?  Maybe Mark Rippedballs will create another video for me.

So what you're saying is that it's not drugs and genes, but way of training made him 7 times Mr Olympia? I am able to squat about 170kg at 73kg olympic style with belt but I have SMALL ass and separated legs with little bit of striations. You wanna know why? Because my mother had school records in sprint, jumping and always had small ass, small calves with ton of definition on them and normal legs. My legs are 100% like her. I do no other exercises for quads than front squats and back squats. My development is nothing out of this planet, but this is first and foremost because I use 1-6 rep range and I simply couldn't care less about "size" of my quads. They are built, could be more defined, separated and dense but what would I do with legs measuring 70cm? Put up a thong and look like an idiot? It's not practical, doesn't even look appealing to anyone except fellow bodybuilders and HONESTLY I grew out from caring what other fellow bodybuilders care about my physique.

Full squats are BEST exercise to build legs which is proven by Branch Warren, Coleman, Platz and many others as well as scientific research.