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Title: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: jakesonyou on February 18, 2012, 01:19:25 PM
Dorian was a much better bodybuilder and here's why...

-  better routine overall.
-  better poser overall.
-  better transitioning.  included with posing/routine, he transitioned through all the poses very well.
-  yates had the complete package.  ronnie coleman was missing calves.
-  yates had 1 bad showing during his reign.  ronnie went down hill after 2001.
-  ronnie coleman was not in control his gut in later years.  although fine in a relaxed position, no control when transitioning through poses or doing quarter turns.
-  dorian was thicker and drier than ronnie coleman.  dorian's conditioning is unmatched by coleman.  there are many sharpened pictures of both ronnie and coleman.  also many low quality pictures.  find the quality pictures and dorian blows ronnie away every time.
-  ronnie peaked early.  1998 was his best showing, followed by 1999, and then 2001.  2003 was big, but watery, and with a large gut.  dorian made HUGE improvements from 1991>1992>1993.  Then 1995>1996.  1997 was a huge but he injured his stomach and tricep which made him look bad in the front double bicep pose.

Unfortunately for Ronnie, Dorian is still winning today.  Dorian is off the drugs, but still large and training very hard.  This is his lifestyle.  Ronnie on the other hand is still injecting and is decomposing.  Ronnie is going around doing seminars showing off his large gut and trying to sell his horrible supplements.

Dorian "The GOAT" Yates
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: mass243 on February 18, 2012, 01:24:38 PM

BS.


Nuthin' to date beats Ronnie's famous posing routine of him pumpin' his hands up in the air, hahah  8) 
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: makaveli25 on February 18, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
Dorian is off the drugs  ::)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: French on February 18, 2012, 01:28:47 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on February 18, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
What you smoking today bro, must be pretty good?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Hulkster on February 18, 2012, 02:03:28 PM
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Then 1995>1996.  1997 was a huge but he injured his stomach and tricep which made him look bad in the front double bicep

no, he looked bad in the front double bi pose from 1994 on:
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Hulkster on February 18, 2012, 02:05:56 PM
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  dorian was thicker and drier than ronnie coleman.

drier yes.

thicker no.

even at the same bodyweight, ronnie had a thicker back, thicker quads, arms etc.

most of dorian's weight was in his enormous waist:

ronnie at his peak was built like a champion bodybuilder, dorian, like a portapotty as someone one here so perfectly said LOL ;D

both at 257, ronnie had a wasp waist, dorian had a keg of beer:
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: nicorulez on February 18, 2012, 02:26:26 PM
Ronnie smokes him in those pics. Dorian's best ever was pre-Olympia 1993. He sucked in 1994. In 1995 he was huge and hard, but his bicep was screwed. He would have lost to an all-time best Coleman. However, as I have said before 1993 Dorian could have completed easily with Coleman at his best. It really depended on the judging panel and what they wanted that day....size vs conditioning.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: tbombz on February 18, 2012, 02:41:25 PM
Dorian was a much better bodybuilder and here's why...

-  better routine overall. doesnt matter
-  better poser overall. doesnt matter
-  better transitioning.  included with posing/routine, he transitioned through all the poses very well. doesnt matter
-  yates had the complete package.  ronnie coleman was missing calves. dorian was missing arms
-  yates had 1 bad showing during his reign.  ronnie went down hill after 2001. doesnt matter.
-  ronnie coleman was not in control his gut in later years.  although fine in a relaxed position, no control when transitioning through poses or doing quarter turns. doesnt matter
-  dorian was thicker and drier than ronnie coleman.  dorian's conditioning is unmatched by coleman.  there are many sharpened pictures of both ronnie and coleman.  also many low quality pictures.  find the quality pictures and dorian blows ronnie away every time. dorian was not thicker. ronnie was. dorian was deifnitely dryer and more grainy, but ronnie was much more striated and vascular.
-  ronnie peaked early.  1998 was his best showing, followed by 1999, and then 2001.  2003 was big, but watery, and with a large gut.  dorian made HUGE improvements from 1991>1992>1993.  Then 1995>1996.  1997 was a huge but he injured his stomach and tricep which made him look bad in the front double bicep pose. doesnt matter

Unfortunately for Ronnie, Dorian is still winning today.  Dorian is off the drugs, but still large and training very hard.  This is his lifestyle.  Ronnie on the other hand is still injecting and is decomposing.  Ronnie is going around doing seminars showing off his large gut and trying to sell his horrible supplements. doesnt matter, but they both still use drugs

Dorian "The GOAT" Yates
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: NeoSeminole on February 18, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
Ronnie at his prime > Dorian at his prime
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: johnny1 on February 18, 2012, 02:56:02 PM
And here "GO" again ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: abijahmaniaco on February 18, 2012, 03:18:35 PM
And here "GO" again ::) ::) ::)

ahahah
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Zé galinha on February 18, 2012, 03:30:40 PM
Dorian was a much better bodybuilder and here's why...

-  better routine overall.
-  better poser overall.
-  better transitioning.  included with posing/routine, he transitioned through all the poses very well.
-  yates had the complete package.  ronnie coleman was missing calves.
-  yates had 1 bad showing during his reign.  ronnie went down hill after 2001.
-  ronnie coleman was not in control his gut in later years.  although fine in a relaxed position, no control when transitioning through poses or doing quarter turns.
-  dorian was thicker and drier than ronnie coleman.  dorian's conditioning is unmatched by coleman.  there are many sharpened pictures of both ronnie and coleman.  also many low quality pictures.  find the quality pictures and dorian blows ronnie away every time.
-  ronnie peaked early.  1998 was his best showing, followed by 1999, and then 2001.  2003 was big, but watery, and with a large gut.  dorian made HUGE improvements from 1991>1992>1993.  Then 1995>1996.  1997 was a huge but he injured his stomach and tricep which made him look bad in the front double bicep pose.

Unfortunately for Ronnie, Dorian is still winning today.  Dorian is off the drugs, but still large and training very hard.  This is his lifestyle.  Ronnie on the other hand is still injecting and is decomposing.  Ronnie is going around doing seminars showing off his large gut and trying to sell his horrible supplements.

Dorian "The GOAT" Yates

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7UmN1THk7-I/TzmjGB_MRyI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/tTD1nFY-UwA/s480/didn%27t+read+lol.png)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on February 18, 2012, 03:32:01 PM
Jeesh ... this get's discussed SO MANY TIMES. Wow !! Threads started relating to the topic " Dorian vs Ronnie " should be automatic deleted with the member of said thread sent to Time-Out. No questions asked. Hahahaha. Of course, I'm only half-kidding ...


It's very simple, really. Dorian was a GREAT bb'er. I like his physique very, very much. Would rather prefer to have his type of physique over Ronnie's, in fact. And it should be noted that I am not a fan of either bb'er ... however ... Ronnie blows Dorian out of the water as a bb'er. How anyone could disagree with that is beyond me. Of course, here at GetBig, things always seem to pertain to one's " race ". Go figure.


Plain and simple. Ronnie is the better bb'er. Ronnie is the best bb'er to ever live. NOBODY WILL EVER BE ABLE TO REPLICATE WHAT RONNIE BROUGHT TO THE STAGE IN 2003.  


End of THREADS.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Shockwave on February 18, 2012, 03:42:29 PM
Didnt read lol

x2

This shit is old and tired.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: nicorulez on February 18, 2012, 04:06:48 PM
Look at this comparison from 1993 Dorian vs 2003 Ronnie. Ronnie is much larger, easily so. I would wager the weight difference is 25-30 pounds. His lower back, glutes and hams are also more striated. Upper back is a toss up. As I say, opinions are opinions.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: nicorulez on February 18, 2012, 04:10:12 PM
Regardless who you think is better. This is one of the most amazing bodybuilder shots ever  :o
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: EL Mariachi on February 18, 2012, 04:11:00 PM
he looks wattery next to the dozer
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: nicorulez on February 18, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
 ::) ::) ::)
he looks wattery next to the dozer

Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: RocketSwitch625 on February 18, 2012, 04:18:01 PM
Look at this comparison from 1993 Dorian vs 2003 Ronnie. Ronnie is much larger, easily so. I would wager the weight difference is 25-30 pounds. His lower back, glutes and hams are also more striated. Upper back is a toss up. As I say, opinions are opinions.

Are you honestly saying that Coleman's lower back was more striated than the Shadow's? LOL. Coleman fans like you really should commit suicide.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Immortal_Technique on February 18, 2012, 04:20:51 PM
Dorian was a much better bodybuilder and here's why...

-  better routine overall.
-  better poser overall.
-  better transitioning.  included with posing/routine, he transitioned through all the poses very well.
-  yates had the complete package.  ronnie coleman was missing calves.
-  yates had 1 bad showing during his reign.  ronnie went down hill after 2001.
-  ronnie coleman was not in control his gut in later years.  although fine in a relaxed position, no control when transitioning through poses or doing quarter turns.
-  dorian was thicker and drier than ronnie coleman.  dorian's conditioning is unmatched by coleman.  there are many sharpened pictures of both ronnie and coleman.  also many low quality pictures.  find the quality pictures and dorian blows ronnie away every time.
-  ronnie peaked early.  1998 was his best showing, followed by 1999, and then 2001.  2003 was big, but watery, and with a large gut.  dorian made HUGE improvements from 1991>1992>1993.  Then 1995>1996.  1997 was a huge but he injured his stomach and tricep which made him look bad in the front double bicep pose.

Unfortunately for Ronnie, Dorian is still winning today.  Dorian is off the drugs, but still large and training very hard.  This is his lifestyle.  Ronnie on the other hand is still injecting and is decomposing.  Ronnie is going around doing seminars showing off his large gut and trying to sell his horrible supplements.

Dorian "The GOAT" Yates

Pics or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: hardgainerj on February 18, 2012, 04:24:16 PM
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_4YFhK87NXPE/Ry0ww2GpJmI/AAAAAAAAAZw/Gp42pt4HdU4/s400/White+Power+Symbol.png)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Iceman1981 on February 18, 2012, 04:34:51 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Hulkster on February 18, 2012, 04:38:49 PM
there really isn't much of a comparison

both at 257 pounds and its ronnie all the way:
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: CT_Muscle on February 18, 2012, 04:41:27 PM
he looks wattery next to the dozer


Are you honestly saying that Coleman's lower back was more striated than the Shadow's? LOL. Coleman fans like you really should commit suicide.


TRUTH
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: johnny1 on February 18, 2012, 04:46:40 PM
Look at this comparison from 1993 Dorian vs 2003 Ronnie. Ronnie is much larger, easily so. I would wager the weight difference is 25-30 pounds. His lower back, glutes and hams are also more striated. Upper back is a toss up. As I say, opinions are opinions.
Again size isnt what IMO would decide the winner between these too, The All round Basic Skeletal structure, BALANCE of the ENTIRE Physique and CONDITION  on the actual DAY would be the Main factors then the other Criteria would (or SHOULD) apply not who has the biggest arms, chest or calves or who weighed 300lbs with Striated Glutes , both had Strengths and certain "Weakness" IMO Yates was More Consistent @ coming in Conditioned time and time again while Coleman @ coming in BIGGER and Bigger you do the math Size vs Condition @ the end of the day COULD be the Result in a close contest, not who had the "Biggest" Arms or Calves.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: nicorulez on February 19, 2012, 01:40:21 AM

TRUTH

Lol...you both are delusional. Ronnie kills him. Look at the muscle bellies and the arms. No contest. Not to mention the glutes and hamstrings. Dorian was harder though, but Dorian cannot match Ronnie's muscularity.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 19, 2012, 02:27:17 AM
Ronnie's bloofiness is second to none.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Shockwave on February 19, 2012, 07:13:06 AM
Lol...you both are delusional. Ronnie kills him. Look at the muscle bellies and the arms. No contest. Not to mention the glutes and hamstrings. Dorian was harder though, but Dorian cannot match Ronnie's muscularity.
Sorry. Dorian kills Ronnie. You are delusional. Dorian is harder, equal sized or bigger (except 2003), and is more complete with equal or better conditioning. Ronnie held more water though, but Ronnie cannot match Dorians completeness, conditioning, balance and propotion and structure.

Cause' I said so bitch.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Hulkster on February 19, 2012, 07:53:31 AM
ronnie's lower back was not more striated but it was 2x thicker:

dorian just can't match ronnie's back thickness.

never could, even at the same bodyweights.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Immortal_Technique on February 19, 2012, 08:12:49 AM
Dorian was a much better bodybuilder and here's why...

-  better routine overall.
-  better poser overall.
-  better transitioning.  included with posing/routine, he transitioned through all the poses very well.
-  yates had the complete package.  ronnie coleman was missing calves.
-  yates had 1 bad showing during his reign.  ronnie went down hill after 2001.
-  ronnie coleman was not in control his gut in later years.  although fine in a relaxed position, no control when transitioning through poses or doing quarter turns.
-  dorian was thicker and drier than ronnie coleman.  dorian's conditioning is unmatched by coleman.  there are many sharpened pictures of both ronnie and coleman.  also many low quality pictures.  find the quality pictures and dorian blows ronnie away every time.
-  ronnie peaked early.  1998 was his best showing, followed by 1999, and then 2001.  2003 was big, but watery, and with a large gut.  dorian made HUGE improvements from 1991>1992>1993.  Then 1995>1996.  1997 was a huge but he injured his stomach and tricep which made him look bad in the front double bicep pose.

Unfortunately for Ronnie, Dorian is still winning today.  Dorian is off the drugs, but still large and training very hard.  This is his lifestyle.  Ronnie on the other hand is still injecting and is decomposing.  Ronnie is going around doing seminars showing off his large gut and trying to sell his horrible supplements.

Dorian "The GOAT" Yates

Pics or it didn't happen
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: doriancutlerman on February 19, 2012, 02:00:09 PM
ronnie's lower back was not more striated but it was 2x thicker:

dorian just can't match ronnie's back thickness.

never could, even at the same bodyweights.

LOWER back thickness?

I can agree on that.  Ronnie's 600-800 lb. deadlifts vs. Dorian's 450ish, more stiff-legged type pulls make a world of difference.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: flinstones1 on February 19, 2012, 02:05:30 PM
safe to say Dorian used more drugs than Ronnie? If there is such a thing :D I think so..
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: flinstones1 on February 19, 2012, 03:21:49 PM
Dorian is such a great bodybuilder. He is an idol for gym rats around the world- and proof that you can get to freak size  regardless of  genetics if you push the envelope, for long enough. He ate like a bodybuilder too and really did the best with what he did.  He was also fortunate enough to have access to quality drugs from the very start- I remember someone saying he told them in an old interview he started taking large amounts of  GH from the beginning of his enhanced career- most gym rats play with anabolics for 5-10 years before even touching GH and wonder why they aren't Dorian's size, Dorian didn't fuck around. I mean people can't really be foolish enough to believe that he looks the way he does because of his genetics. How many steroid users used shitloads of  pharm grade GH from the minute they entered a gym? Sorry I refuse to believe  it's a coincidence that when a young guy gets "tight" with someone big in this industry they blow the fuck up overnight- see Kuclo as a kid guided by Trop. Steve didn't fuck around....full pedal on the gas for 8 years baby and just barely got his pro card.....8 years!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on February 19, 2012, 04:04:08 PM
Dorian is such a great bodybuilder. He is an idol for gym rats around the world- and proof that you can get to freak size  regardless of  genetics if you push the envelope, for long enough. He ate like a bodybuilder too and really did the best with what he did.  He was also fortunate enough to have access to quality drugs from the very start- I remember someone saying he told them in an old interview he started taking large amounts of  GH from the beginning of his enhanced career- most gym rats play with anabolics for 5-10 years before even touching GH and wonder why they aren't Dorian's size, Dorian didn't fuck around. I mean people can't really be foolish enough to believe that he looks the way he does because of his genetics. How many steroid users used shitloads of  pharm grade GH from the minute they entered a gym? Sorry I refuse to believe  it's a coincidence that when a young guy gets "tight" with someone big in this industry they blow the fuck up overnight- see Kuclo as a kid guided by Trop. Steve didn't fuck around....full pedal on the gas for 8 years baby and just barely got his pro card.....8 years!


Good post.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Hulkster on February 19, 2012, 07:05:51 PM
the ironic thing with dorian was that in the 1993 olympia coverage, Flex magazine painted the devil on the wall by stating: "training heavy all the time may predispose him for injury"

and guess what happened?

the following fall he tore his left arm and was never the same.

shame on you Flex LOL
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: johnny1 on February 19, 2012, 11:46:19 PM
ronnie's lower back was not more striated but it was 2x thicker:

dorian just can't match ronnie's back thickness.

never could, even at the same bodyweights.
Get some god damn glasses Hulkster seriously, stop looking @ Screen-caps and murky blurred Gym screen-Caps of Coleman, we all know he had ONE OF the best backs ever, however your Blind Roderich on Coleman's back thickness over Yates is crazy, abit like me posting this SCREEN CAP of Yates EVERY-CHANCE i get to "prove" how much "better" Yates Back Conditioning was than Coleman's, fact was and is Both Had Backs from another Dimension 50-50 ether way.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: nicorulez on February 21, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
Sorry. Dorian kills Ronnie. You are delusional. Dorian is harder, equal sized or bigger (except 2003), and is more complete with equal or better conditioning. Ronnie held more water though, but Ronnie cannot match Dorians completeness, conditioning, balance and propotion and structure.

Cause' I said so bitch.


Bitch you are. You are kind of a schmoe. Lol...you are deluded.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: RocketSwitch625 on February 21, 2012, 12:15:54 PM
OK, I get it now. It's the love handles on Ronnie Coleman that makes so many guys on here say he is the best bodybuilder ever without giving a reason. They just ignore the comparisons and favour the love handles over everything else. The likes of Hulkster get seriously aroused by this type of picture of Moses ass.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415848.0;attach=458276;image)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Nails on April 07, 2014, 06:05:01 PM
Jew know he is the best
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Shockwave on April 07, 2014, 06:13:26 PM
Dorian for eternal reptilian overlord!!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Redux on April 07, 2014, 06:14:27 PM
We need more men like Dorian in this world.

This is one white non-Jewish man's opinion. 
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: 240 is Back on April 07, 2014, 06:16:18 PM
I like Dorian because he speaks his mind and isn't afraid to say what he thinks.

For example, the time he said heavy sets are superior to light weight, high rep sets.  Took some guts to say that.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: dyslexic on April 07, 2014, 06:16:36 PM
His ads for his products in the rags are pretty cool as far as his marketing skills go post-retirement. He has his old lady on the page next to his column in MD and he uses a pretty cool strategy for his fat-burner.

He say's something like "This stuff is strong and if you aren't used to stimulants don't buy this shit" and he's like " this is not one of those bullshit ads that's tries to get you to buy stuff by saying it's too strong, this shit is really strong and if you can't handle it, I don't want your business"


I wonder truly how that is working for him. Is his supplement company doing O.K or is it one of those things that is hanging by a thread? He was shrewd and very business-like on stage, one would assume he would do well in the supplement world also...(?)


I always think that Lee Labradas supplement company is probably just O.K, Ronnie Coleman really has to bust his ass with his and Shawn Ray with his Oxygen shit is probably barely affording the ad space... who knows?


Dorian always looks like he's ready to take a nice long nap. He doesn't look like he ever gets overly excited about anything.


I own the original "Blood and Guts" on VHS (lol) so I guess I'm a fan, no?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Skeletor on April 07, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
(http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1012385_632648670081207_766467669_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Fortress on April 07, 2014, 06:22:11 PM
One of my all-time favourite bodybuilders and ... he's just a relaxed and friendly man. All my interactions with him have been positive. He's very even-keeled and a typical stoic Englishman.

Hails to Dorian!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: dyslexic on April 07, 2014, 06:32:11 PM
It's funny watching him do interviews with Flex Wheeler and Shawn...


It's like if they weren't in the "promotional' phases in their lives, he would beat the shit outta both of them.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 07, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
I bought a Temple Gym hoodie and t-shirt on his website today to support free speech.
Ironic he owns Temple Gym!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: GymnJuice on April 07, 2014, 06:53:41 PM
(http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1012385_632648670081207_766467669_n.jpg)

cougar disguised as tiger
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Shockwave on April 07, 2014, 07:09:46 PM
Ironic he owns Temple Gym!
*facepalm*
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: wolfrittner on April 07, 2014, 07:18:13 PM
Party like a boss!!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Shockwave on April 07, 2014, 07:22:02 PM
Party like a boss!!
Dorian is a fucking savage
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: wes on April 07, 2014, 07:29:32 PM
All hail the man that introduced the big gutted look to bodybuilding.  :'(
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Shockwave on April 07, 2014, 07:43:37 PM
All hail the man that introduced the big gutted look to bodybuilding.  :'(
you will bow to the shadow.

BOW!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: njflex on April 07, 2014, 07:46:57 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Rambone on April 07, 2014, 08:10:04 PM
Party like a boss!!

Have even more respect for Doz after viewing this pic.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: Alucard on April 08, 2014, 04:18:04 AM
All hail the man that introduced the big gutted look to bodybuilding.  :'(
Mike Mentzer? ;D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Melkor on April 08, 2014, 04:26:53 AM
drier yes.

thicker no.

even at the same bodyweight, ronnie had a thicker back, thicker quads, arms etc.

most of dorian's weight was in his enormous waist:

ronnie at his peak was built like a champion bodybuilder, dorian, like a portapotty as someone one here so perfectly said LOL ;D

both at 257, ronnie had a wasp waist, dorian had a keg of beer:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415848.0;attach=458069;image)

Best pic of Ronnie Ive ever seen. And people say his 2003 showing was his best?! You can literally draw a line through his head down through his torso and he is identical on both sides. His symmetry is insane, even his abs.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: old-school-lifter on April 08, 2014, 06:13:29 PM
ROnnie 8 sandows, 1 ASC  > Dorian 6 sandows
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: david94 on April 09, 2014, 02:58:36 AM
ROnnie 8 sandows, 1 ASC  > Dorian 6 3 sandows

Most history is a lie.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: beakdoctor on April 09, 2014, 06:58:26 AM
Ronnie greatest bbr ever. Mind blowing how much muscle he carried while still being shredded. I didn't care for his shape and structure but no one else comes close.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: dyslexic on April 09, 2014, 07:02:55 AM
All hail the man that introduced the big gutted look to bodybuilding.  :'(

All joking aside...


He truly did. Combine that look that he brought with some Palumboism and what do you get? (feel free to post pics!) lol


Kevin Levrone could have well-won that year. I wonder how the game would have changed?


Arnold is still hell-bent on bringing back the "look of old" ~ the look of the "Legends" and the vacuum posing. He's talking about it more now than he was a few years ago.


I personally wouldn't mind. This is one time where I wouldn't mind seeing the direction the wind is blowing make a big change ~
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: mesmorph78 on April 09, 2014, 07:05:18 AM
Ronnie greatest bbr ever. Mind blowing how much muscle he carried while still being shredded. I didn't care for his shape and structure but no one else comes close.

This.
It's not even close.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: snx on April 09, 2014, 07:24:20 AM
It's about time this debate had its moment in the sun. A long time coming, I say.

Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: Wiggs on April 09, 2014, 07:28:55 AM
It's about time this debate had its moment in the sun. A long time coming, I say.



 :D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2014, 08:13:52 AM
Ronnie greatest bbr ever. Mind blowing how much muscle he carried while still being shredded. I didn't care for his shape and structure but no one else comes close.
this...I agree inhuman hanging muscle mass and size/conditing of it 'at times'but genetically speaking 4 pack split and later bloated,hanging drooped pecs bigger he got.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: wes on April 09, 2014, 08:32:35 AM
I think it`s a rare treat for getbig to have such a new and refreshing topic such as this to be discussed  for the first time on this epic board

I wish I thought of it.
::)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: Grape Ape on April 09, 2014, 08:35:36 AM
A long time coming, I say.



Similar to when hulkster looks at ronnie pics....
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 09, 2014, 08:57:39 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415848.0;attach=560727;image)

You know the white guy stinks like Lee Priest's bedroom after a scat session when the mudshark moves away from the white guy with money and leans in on the broke Nebrew...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: Shockwave on April 09, 2014, 11:17:37 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=415848.0;attach=560727;image)

You know the white guy stinks like Lee Priest's bedroom after a scat session when the mudshark moves away from the white guy with money and leans in on the broke Nebrew...
or she's just a mudshark.

or Dorian is buying him a lapdance
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: gracie bjj on April 09, 2014, 01:58:06 PM
cougar disguised as tiger

dorian looks like that porn star dude on cinemax after dark, that dude gets tons of pussy everynight when im watching it
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: Papper on April 09, 2014, 02:02:52 PM
Is Dorian not happily married with kids?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates Appreciation Thread
Post by: anabolichalo on April 09, 2014, 03:06:08 PM
(http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1012385_632648670081207_766467669_n.jpg)
one fine chocolate babe
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: Danimal77 on April 09, 2014, 05:31:25 PM
And here "GO" again ::) ::) ::)

Little did you know that some idiot would re-start this thread over 2 years later.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates was a much better bodybuilder than Ronnie Coleman - here is why
Post by: doriancutlerman on April 10, 2014, 02:05:14 PM
ronnie's lower back was not more striated but it was 2x thicker:

dorian just can't match ronnie's back thickness.

never could, even at the same bodyweights.

BTW, based on that comparison alone, I think you're out to lunch buddy.  Ronnie had the thicker erectors, but Dorian SMOKED him in that comparison.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: SomeKindofMonster on April 10, 2014, 07:38:44 PM
I hate to keep hearing Yates was drier than everyone.
Was he drier than Paul Dillett when he froze up at the
1994 ASC he was so dry.
Did that give Paul that granite look that no one else seemed to have.
Dorian had genetically very, very thin skin that gave him that look.
Unfortunately, except for his back he wasn't gifted with a lot of separation/striations
except for his back.
Ronnie had extremely thin skin waist down from the back but no amount of water loss
or fat loss was going to make his back as detailed as Dorian's.
Darker skinned individuals in general have thicker skin but better shape and the lighter
skinned guys tend to have the thinner skin, grainier look.
There are exceptions but in general this is the way it is.
Fortunately for Ronnie he had pretty thin skin everywhere, although it seemed to be
thickest in his back. His mounds of back muscles plus excellent shape made his back
the best overall or 2nd best according to who you ask.
Yates had a bit bigger bone structure but Ronnie compensated for this with rounder,
more bulbous-but extremely striated muscle.
Ronnie had relatively weak delts until 98 and even then they were still a bit flatish according
to Peter McGough's Olympia report that year. He finally balanced out his delts with the rest of his
upper body in 1999.
Coleman had several great years and I happened to come across this a few weeks ago
and posted on another forum. Very impressive to say the least.
 
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: Shockwave on April 10, 2014, 07:58:14 PM
I hate to keep hearing Yates was drier than everyone.
Was he drier than Paul Dillett when he froze up at the
1994 ASC he was so dry.
Did that give Paul that granite look that no one else seemed to have.
Dorian had genetically very, very thin skin that gave him that look.
Unfortunately, except for his back he wasn't gifted with a lot of separation/striations
except for his back.
Ronnie had extremely thin skin waist down from the back but no amount of water loss
or fat loss was going to make his back as detailed as Dorian's.
Darker skinned individuals in general have thicker skin but better shape and the lighter
skinned guys tend to have the thinner skin, grainier look.
There are exceptions but in general this is the way it is.
Fortunately for Ronnie he had pretty thin skin everywhere, although it seemed to be
thickest in his back. His mounds of back muscles plus excellent shape made his back
the best overall or 2nd best according to who you ask.
Yates had a bit bigger bone structure but Ronnie compensated for this with rounder,
more bulbous-but extremely striated muscle.
Ronnie had relatively weak delts until 98 and even then they were still a bit flatish according
to Peter McGough's Olympia report that year. He finally balanced out his delts with the rest of his
upper body in 1999.
Coleman had several great years and I happened to come across this a few weeks ago
and posted on another forum. Very impressive to say the least.
 

somewhat agree on the thin skin thing... but there was more to it than just that. His musculature had that rock hard, layered on concrete look without a hint of water or fat anywhere. Even at ronnies dryest, even with his thinnest skin, you could detect a marshmellowy quality to his musculature that you just didnt see on Dorian.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: Iceman1981 on April 10, 2014, 09:44:01 PM
somewhat agree on the thin skin thing... but there was more to it than just that. His musculature had that rock hard, layered on concrete look without a hint of water or fat anywhere. Even at ronnies dryest, even with his thinnest skin, you could detect a marshmellowy quality to his musculature that you just didnt see on Dorian.

You could say the same for Dorian as well. In some poses Dorian doesn't have that grainy rock hard look and actually doesn't look dry to the bone in poses such as FDB, FLS & SC. The rest of the poses his conditioning looked great. The only poses where Ronnie wasn't shredded were the ST & AB&T. Every other pose Ronnie was dry, separated and striated top to bottom.

Here are comparisons of the three poses I mentioned above that Dorian's great conditioning doesn't seem to be showing for some reason.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: Shockwave on April 10, 2014, 09:50:19 PM
You could say the same for Dorian as well. In some poses Dorian doesn't have that grainy rock hard look and actually doesn't look dry to the bone in poses such as FDB, FLS & SC. The rest of the poses his conditioning looked great. The only poses where Ronnie wasn't shredded were the ST & AB&T. Every other pose Ronnie was dry, separated and striated top to bottom.

Here are comparisons of the three poses I mentioned above that Dorian's great conditioning doesn't seem to be showing for some reason.
I agree with you in these pics. For some reason his musculature quality didnt translate fo pics well.

the vids from 93, 95 (horrible lighting though) and 96 GGP are incredible.

Nothing I ever saw coleman in left an impression on me like the 96 grand prix video.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better?
Post by: anabolichalo on April 11, 2014, 01:56:05 AM
You could say the same for Dorian as well. In some poses Dorian doesn't have that grainy rock hard look and actually doesn't look dry to the bone in poses such as FDB, FLS & SC. The rest of the poses his conditioning looked great. The only poses where Ronnie wasn't shredded were the ST & AB&T. Every other pose Ronnie was dry, separated and striated top to bottom.

Here are comparisons of the three poses I mentioned above that Dorian's great conditioning doesn't seem to be showing for some reason.
damn, RC demolishing tinfoil hat  :D