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Does anyone on here have any experience with training without a set routine? And if so what results did you get?
I mean you have some kind of structure but you don't necessarily follow the usual 7 day cycle? Sometimes you train 3 days per week, next week maybe 5 etc depending on how you feel day to day etc.
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All I have planned when I go into the gym is what body part(s) I am going to do. I then do what strikes me at that time. Works for me.
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All I have planned when I go into the gym is what body part(s) I am going to do. I then do what strikes me at that time. Works for me.
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used to train this way, keeps things fresh. one draw back is its harder to track progress this way imo
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used to train this way, keeps things fresh. one draw back is its harder to track progress this way imo
MIRROR.
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yeah, im on more of a time limit, depending on what else is going on that evening. Usually 50 minutes to an hour......try to get in what ever i can in that timeframe,
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MIRROR.
lol strength wise
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All I have planned when I go into the gym is what body part(s) I am going to do. I then do what strikes me at that time. Works for me.
Sorry to be a pain in the ass but when you say 'works for me' what kind of gains have you made in terms of numbers (lean mass and strength)?
I think this is a really interesting subject as so many people seem to use a 7-day cycle. But what if you used a 9-10-11 (or whatever) day cycle and made sure to train everytning twice during that time period. Maybe that would fit certain peoples recovery pattern better.
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used to train this way, keeps things fresh. one draw back is its harder to track progress this way imo
But what if you keep a few key lifts that you always do for certain bodyparts. So there would still be some kind of structure.
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But what if you keep a few key lifts that you always do for certain bodyparts. So there would still be some kind of structure.
yea just keep compounds, and switch out an iso here and there. this could work i guess
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If weights keep going up= you`re getting stronger
If they go down = you`re losing strength
Hope this helps! ;D
Just kidding bud,but I never had a problem remembering my poundages from past workouts week to week on any exercise.
Besides,heavy is heavy and light is light..........the muscles can`t read numbers on the bar........it`s bodybuiding not powerlifting.
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All I have planned when I go into the gym is what body part(s) I am going to do. I then do what strikes me at that time. Works for me.
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All I have planned when I go into the gym is what body part(s) I am going to do. I then do what strikes me at that time. Works for me.
Same. Don't set count, Don't rep count, no exercise list.
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I haven't followed a "routine" in years.
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I haven't followed a "routine" in years.
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I haven't followed a "routine" in years.
I know you are a smart guy so I would like to hear if you have any kind of structure to your training. I mean even if you don't have a specific routine maybe you have a few general guidelines at least?
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I have found that having no set routine suits me better mentally compared to rigid programming. Although I do need to keep some kind of structure just to make sure there is some balance and so that I can measure progress.
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Does anyone on here have any experience with training without a set routine? And if so what results did you get?
I mean you have some kind of structure but you don't necessarily follow the usual 7 day cycle? Sometimes you train 3 days per week, next week maybe 5 etc depending on how you feel day to day etc.
Fail to plan, plan to fail. Cliche I know but it's the truth. Everything should be a progression. Going in and randomly doing something is like believing in "muscle confusion".
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I have found that having no set routine suits me better mentally compared to rigid programming. Although I do need to keep some kind of structure just to make sure there is some balance and so that I can measure progress.
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I don't have a routine but I always do 3-4 sets of 8-11 reps. It's all about how I feel in that moment. Sometimes I go "heavy", sometimes I train "light", sometimes I focus on volume. For me it's all about enjoying the workout.
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I know you are a smart guy so I would like to hear if you have any kind of structure to your training. I mean even if you don't have a specific routine maybe you have a few general guidelines at least?
Lift hard and take a multi, bro. ;D
Nah, seriously I just pyramid up in weight and do around 8-10 reps, sometimes more and sometimes less depending on the bodypart and how it's development is. For lagging parts I'll do a bit of heavy lifting and throw in a few higher intensity sets to get the best of both worlds. I do lifts with some focus on the eccentric phase, static contractions, high reps, low reps... pretty much everything you'd expect from a "bodybuilder".
One thing I believe in quite a bit though is intuition. You can take someone through a workout or give them a cookie cutter routine, but you can't train someone to be intuitive. You HOPEFULLY develop intuition over time but if not, you're pretty much doomed. A lot of people in the gym who look good will have a very strong intuition and will seemingly do all the right things to get where they want. Others like myself had to take some time, but caught on pretty fast too.
I pretty much never discuss training for that matter - it's so up-in-the-air. You can discuss techniques and exercises, and to some degree a bit of a structured routine for certain goals but it's still so tough. Really have to be there in person and training together for it to make much sense. This shit's all drugs anyway so if something's lagging, basically just up the dose LOL
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I train whatever I feel like that day but I make sure that each muscle group gets trained once every 7 days
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All I have planned when I go into the gym is what body part(s) I am going to do. I then do what strikes me at that time. Works for me.
yeah me too. there are specific exercises i like the best, for example i prefer barbell rows over dumb bell and also flyes/pecdec over regular bench for pecs, but i really just do "whatever" until failure and i feel my body has been sufficiently destroyed, so to speak
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I train whatever I feel like that day but I make sure that each muscle group gets trained once every 7 days
Is the frequency just because you are at maintenance stage Che or did you used to train the same bodypart more frequently?
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yeah me too. there are specific exercises i like the best, for example i prefer barbell rows over dumb bell and also flyes/pecdec over regular bench for pecs, but i really just do "whatever" until failure and i feel my body has been sufficiently destroyed, so to speak
Exactly the same way I do it bro. When I started doing that years ago I found myself motivated much more. Instead of those days where you dreaded some certain routines.
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Fail to plan, plan to fail. Cliche I know but it's the truth. Everything should be a progression. Going in and randomly doing something is like believing in "muscle confusion".
But that is not exactly what I'm talking about. I agree there needs to be some kind of plan.
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i love reading shit like this, reminds me how much i over think things when it comes to my training/diet/etc. i used to always log shit, then i stopped for a while and now im back to logging my workouts again lol! im not a power lifter, id like to get stronger, but the whole idea that you have to get stronger, constantly add weight to the bar is as gh15 would say "bologna" haha. go in hit it hard and get out, if you're not getting bigger in the mirrior/on the scale eat more and train harder! ok that is all 8)
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I go three days on one day off with lifting.
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Is the frequency just because you are at maintenance stage Che or did you used to train the same bodypart more frequently?
I've always trained the same , the only muscle groups I trained twice a week were my calves and my biceps trying to catch up thighs and triceps
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Guys, serious question. My younger brother started going to the gym with me. Do you think HE needs a routine? I make him train a little more volume than me and more basic movements/free weights. But I haven't followed a routine in at least 2 years so I don't know if he should do the same. ??? I think he should follow a routine at least the first year, (changing exercises/order every 6-8 weeks). But I want to hear opinions, thanks.
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i love reading shit like this, reminds me how much i over think things when it comes to my training/diet/etc. i used to always log shit, then i stopped for a while and now im back to logging my workouts again lol! im not a power lifter, id like to get stronger, but the whole idea that you have to get stronger, constantly add weight to the bar is as gh15 would say "bologna" haha. go in hit it hard and get out, if you're not getting bigger in the mirrior/on the scale eat more and train harder! ok that is all 8)
Exactly, I get stressed out by super strict programming and logging everything. I prefer go much more by how I feel day to day. Sometimes I feel strong and I will go heavy and try to push the poundages other days I feel like crap and just do a short pump workout and some days I simply skip the workout and do it the next day instead. Somedays it's lower volume, sometimes it's higher volume depending on what I feel like doing and how much time I have etc etc. Smaller muscle groups float around and are attached to different big muscle group workouts and so on.
But I always keep track of my top weights in a few exercises such as squats, pulldowns, smith machine bench press (my main chest exercise these days) etc.
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Guys, serious question. My younger brother started going to the gym with me. Do you think HE needs a routine? I make him train a little more volume than me and more basic movements/free weights. But I haven't followed a routine in at least 2 years so I don't know if he should do the same. ??? I think he should follow a routine at least the first year, (changing exercises/order every 6-8 weeks). But I want to hear opinions, thanks.
Full body 3 times a week at least 6 month .
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Full body 3 times a week at least 6 month .
Thanks, he has been going with me just for 1 week. He trained like this:
Monday: chest - back
Tuesday: shoulders
Thursday: legs
Friday: arms
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Exactly, I get stressed out by super strict programming and logging everything. I prefer go much more by how I feel day to day. Sometimes I feel strong and I will go heavy and try to push the poundages other days I feel like crap and just do a short pump workout and some days I simply skip the workout and do it the next day instead. Somedays it's lower volume, sometimes it's higher volume depending on what I feel like doing and how much time I have etc etc. Smaller muscle groups float around and are attached to different big muscle group workouts and so on.
But I always keep track of my top weights in a few exercises such as squats, pulldowns, smith machine bench press (my main chest exercise these days) etc.
yea man everything you read/hear when you first start out, eat this, drink that, do this exercise not that, track this, count that. we've all been caught up in it, hell i still am. im only 23 with 7 years under my belt but still lol. i am currently tracking calories thanks to my fitnesspal app.
as i know this is what has held me back in progress the past 6 months or more is not keeping track accurately enough.
makes counting calories actually fun and easy. i do think this is the area you have to be somewhat strict in is your diet. however i do believe it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you hit your calories for the day and get your body weight in protein. i love this thread, and forum for that matter already ha ha
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I've always trained the same , the only muscle groups I trained twice a week were my calves and my biceps trying to catch up thighs and triceps
Ok brother. I tried split routines and less frequency but i always go back to full body, 2-3 times a week.
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Ok brother. I tried split routines and less frequency but i always go back to full body, 2-3 times a week.
Whatever works best for you.
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however i do believe it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you hit your calories for the day and get your body weight in protein.
Wrong (if you are natural)
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Lift hard and take a multi, bro. ;D
Nah, seriously I just pyramid up in weight and do around 8-10 reps, sometimes more and sometimes less depending on the bodypart and how it's development is. For lagging parts I'll do a bit of heavy lifting and throw in a few higher intensity sets to get the best of both worlds. I do lifts with some focus on the eccentric phase, static contractions, high reps, low reps... pretty much everything you'd expect from a "bodybuilder".
One thing I believe in quite a bit though is intuition. You can take someone through a workout or give them a cookie cutter routine, but you can't train someone to be intuitive. You HOPEFULLY develop intuition over time but if not, you're pretty much doomed. A lot of people in the gym who look good will have a very strong intuition and will seemingly do all the right things to get where they want. Others like myself had to take some time, but caught on pretty fast too.
I pretty much never discuss training for that matter - it's so up-in-the-air. You can discuss techniques and exercises, and to some degree a bit of a structured routine for certain goals but it's still so tough. Really have to be there in person and training together for it to make much sense. This shit's all drugs anyway so if something's lagging, basically just up the dose LOL
Yeah I think maybe your first year or two you could use a more planned approach but the more advanced you get the better it is to focus on maybe 1-2 muscle groups at a time and just maintain the rest and thus you may end up with unbalanced training routines (priority training etc) and going much more with intuition or feel.
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yea man everything you read/here when you first start out, eat this, drink that, do this exercise not that, track this, count that. we've all been caught up in it, hell i still am. im only 23 with 7 years under my belt but still lol. i am currently tracking calories thanks to my fitnesspal app.
as i know this is what has held me back in progress the past 6 months or more is not keeping track accurately enough.
makes counting calories actually fun and easy. i do think this is the area you have to be somewhat strict in is your diet. however i do believe it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you hit your calories for the day and get your body weight in protein. i love this thread, and forum for that matter already ha ha
I think if the goal is fat loss then it's important to keep track of calories. And in general I think it's good to do it for a while at least even if you aren't dieting just to get a rough idea of how much you are eating.
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The major problem with this method would be just remembering all your weights! Perhaps I shouldn't have sniffed all that glue as a 12 year old. Not to mention the paint and gas also :/
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I usually masturbate before I do anything. I find it clears both my head and my pipes ;D
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The major problem with this method would be just remembering all your weights! Perhaps I shouldn't have sniffed all that glue as a 12 year old. Not to mention the paint and gas also :/
Doesn't have to be hard to remember weights in a handful key exercises (that you basically always keep in the routine). You don't necessarily have to keep track of weights for smaller muscle groups and isolation exercises unless you are specifically trying to bring up that muscle group.
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Doesn't have to be hard to remember weights in a handful key exercises (that you basically always keep in the routine). You don't necessarily have to keep track of weights for smaller muscle groups and isolation exercises unless you are specifically trying to bring up that muscle group.
you, my friend, obviously haven't messed with hallucinogens and dissociative type drugs lol
However, I see your point.
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Wrong (if you are natural)
how so? not being a dick, but curious as im very firm in my belief after much research ;D
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Some
guys geeks can recite ten thousand decimals of pi. ffs getbig is meant to be home to the worlds greatest minds....Seriously you motherfookers can't remember the weights for a dozen exercises...
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how so? not being a dick, but curious as im very firm in my belief after much research ;D
Food quality/what you eat does matter for many reasons. Yes it's calories in vs out at the end of the day but there are other considerations as internal health, satiety, taste, some people need more carbs in their diet than others (some do better with lower carb and higher fat and others do better with lower fat and higher carbs) etc.
I could write articles about the subject.
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after much research
Haha ,Nevermind.
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Food quality/what you eat does matter for many reasons. Yes it's calories in vs out at the end of the day but there are other considerations as internal health, satiety, taste, some people need more carbs in their diet than others (some do better with lower carb and higher fat and others do better with lower fat and higher carbs) etc.
I could write articles about the subject.
Yes, Yes...Articles and scientific literature.... ::)But can you argue for hours on end and ignore all forms of intelligent discourse like TA? ???
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Yes, Yes...Articles and scientific literature.... ::)But can you argue for hours on end and ignore all forms of intelligent discourse like TA? ???
I simply avoid his shit. And I (hardly) argue or discuss training/nutrition on forums anymore. I'm tired of all that crap.
Calories in vs calories out is valid but that does not mean that food quality/type of foods don't matter, some idiots seem to have a hard time reconciling these things.
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I simply avoid his shit. And I (hardly) argue or discuss training/nutrition on forums anymore. I'm tired of all that crap.
Calories in vs calories out is valid but that does not mean that food quality/type of foods don't matter, some idiots seem to have a hard time reconciling these things.
Of course, it make a huge difference.
Pointless to even expand on the subject if somebody can't come to such a logical conclusion of their own device then...
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If you're natural then food quality matters. For me, I see a difference between eating brown rice and white rice, I'm serious.
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no doubt from health standpoint its important to get healthy foods in your diet, im not saying i dont. but if you want that slice of pizza, or go out to eat and can fit that into your macros for the day while adjusting accordingly, then i see no harm and see no difference that it would make in your physique. now if you ate doughnuts and hot dogs all day then you are simply an idiot haha
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a lot of times i dont really even know what im going to train. i might have an idea, but that can easily change by the time i get done my first set.
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If you're natural then food quality matters. For me, I see a difference between eating brown rice and white rice, I'm serious.
It matters for drug pigs too but most don't give a shit and you also have to remember that if you are 280lbs and need 5500 calories daily you are not gonna do it on chicken and rice.
As for white rice vs brown rice. They are actually not the same and I would recommend white rice instead of brown rice. Not because of calorie voodoo but because white rice is healthier (this of course doesn't mean you will die if you eat brown rice ). This is backed by research.
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no doubt from health standpoint its important to get healthy foods in your diet, im not saying i dont. but if you want that slice of pizza, or go out to eat and can fit that into your macros for the day while adjusting accordingly, then i see no harm and see no difference that it would make in your physique. now if you ate doughnuts and hot dogs all day then you are simply an idiot haha
Of course you can be flexible and there is no need to be orthorexic. That's not what I'm talking about.
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It matters for drug pigs too but most don't give a shit and you also have to remember that if you are 280lbs and need 5500 calories daily you are not gonna do it on chicken and rice.
As for white rice vs brown rice. They are actually not the same and I would recommend white rice instead of brown rice. Not because of calorie voodoo but because white rice is healthier (this of course doesn't mean you will die if you eat brown rice ). This is backed by research.
the amount of cals guys of a certain size are assumed to need is vastly overstated.
you can eat like a bird, and if your taking enough drugs you'll grow, and grow lean.
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the amount of cals guys of a certain size are assumed to need is vastly overstated.
you can eat like a bird, and if your taking enough drugs you'll grow, and grow lean.
this x1000
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the amount of cals guys of a certain size are assumed to need is vastly overstated.
you can eat like a bird, and if your taking enough drugs you'll grow, and grow lean.
Prob means shit on this board, wrong place lol
But this does not work natural, i tried it when i first started training, never had much of an appetite. Strength goes up, muscle does not build.
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the amount of cals guys of a certain size are assumed to need is vastly overstated.
you can eat like a bird, and if your taking enough drugs you'll grow, and grow lean.
I was making the point that the caloric need of a a huge drug pig is not the same as for example a 180lbs natural (unless he has a very physical job etc).
And for sure drugs change a lot of things but you ain't gonna grow from thin air either if the goal is to be a monster. But yes drugs let you use incoming calories more efficiently for growth so a drug pig can get away with stuff that a natural can't (both in terms of undereating and overeating).
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It matters for drug pigs too but most don't give a shit and you also have to remember that if you are 280lbs and need 5500 calories daily you are not gonna do it on chicken and rice.
As for white rice vs brown rice. They are actually not the same and I would recommend white rice instead of brown rice. Not because of calorie voodoo but because white rice is healthier (this of course doesn't mean you will die if you eat brown rice ). This is backed by research.
Nah, brown rice suits me better when trying to lose fat. I don't count calories anymore, I count the amount of carbs, protein, fat I'm eating. Last time I checked how many calories I was eating (for fat loss), it was around 1300. But according to all the "info" out there, I should be eating at leats 1900 ::) I'm a fat fuck if I eat those calories.
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Nah, brown rice suits me better when trying to lose fat. I don't count calories anymore, I count the amount of carbs, protein, fat I'm eating. Last time I checked how many calories I was eating (for fat loss), it was around 1300. But according to all the "info" out there, I should be eating at leats 1900 ::) I'm a fat fuck if I eat those calories.
You don't get what I'm talking about. White rice vs brown rice doesn't side step calories in vs calories out. That was not what I meant with white rice being healthier. Anyways I'm out. I don't have the patience for this shit.
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You don't get what I'm talking about. White rice vs brown rice doesn't side step calories in vs calories out. That was not what I meant with white rice being healthier. Anyways I'm out. I don't have the patience for this shit.
lol, why are you mad? ??? Anyway I'm out too lol I'm tired I need to sleep
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lol, why are you mad? ??? Anyway I'm out too lol I'm tired I need to sleep
I ain't mad at you. I just need to stay away from forums.
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I ain't mad at you. I just need to stay away from forums.
Fair enough ;)
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Of course you can be flexible and there is no need to be orthorexic. That's not what I'm talking about.
calm down lol
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lets keep this thread going, its a good one!
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lets keep this thread going, its a good one!
Well training this way has worked well for me. I train 3-5 days per week and take the weekends off (usually). I have no set routine anymore. I train for 30-60min just before the gym closes or very early in the morning and eat 3 times per day when I'm hungry. If I eat 5-6 times per day I always end up eating too much. Dieting when eating 3 meals per day has also been a piece of cake as I can eat larger meals when I actually do eat.
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I train with a set 5 day plan, one muscle per day, but the actual work out is decided when i get to the gym...
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I know some guys do well not following a plan, but I've always preferred to know what I’m going to do before I set foot in the gym. i find it's a powerful phycological tool to help me improve myself and gives me something to compete against.
I generally follow a set routine for 8-10 weeks and then take a week off and change it up.
I start off again with an acclimation week and slowly build up again.
I'm still flexible though, so if I'm not feeling something that day or get injured I substitute exercises and work around it.
I pay close attention and track my strength in the main lifts Squat, overhead press, Incl. DB Press and deadlift/BB Rows.
Progress for me isn't only about trying to add more and more weight to the bar I also gauge :
* Increase in no. reps
* Feeling more Explosiveness powerful
* perceived exertion (set feels easier from last week)
* Training Density - doing more in less time, less rest between sets - without a drop in poundage.
These are all indicators of progress to me.
If my workouts have reached a point of being super intense, I also believe not necessarily having to increase anything & just matching last weeks workout is a success. Sometimes I do this for a few weeks in a row. That's still progression - progression through consistency over time.
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now say someone isn't quite considered a "vet" in training, do you feel this style of training will still yield gains in muscle mass and strength? I'm under the impression that each workout must be more intense than the last one in one way or another, whether it be lifting more weight, more reps with same weight,etc. in order to do this Ive found it hard to keep track of what i did last workout without writing it down, as i have tried this style before and didn't seem to reap any benefits. BTW I'm 23 and have been training about 7 years
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now say someone isn't quite considered a "vet" in training, do you feel this style of training will still yield gains in muscle mass and strength? I'm under the impression that each workout must be more intense than the last one in one way or another, whether it be lifting more weight, more reps with same weight,etc. in order to do this Ive found it hard to keep track of what i did last workout without writing it down, as i have tried this style before and didn't seem to reap any benefits. BTW I'm 23 and have been training about 7 years
Not every workout has to be heavier than the last...IMO you have to think in terms of months or years not week to week. But you obviously will reach a ceiling of strength (you can't keep lifting heavier indefinitley) that is when other methods of progression I mentioned come into play plus you can use undulating periodization (light weeks and heavy weeks)... you can always improve on something. if you increase volume and intensity You must increase you food & rest as well.
Enjoy it while you are young because at a certain point after the beginner stage (especially as you get older) the weight & strength gains will become less. That's just the way it is. if you are doing it without hormones. I believe low volume, high intensity progressive high tension overload (with good form) is the way to train to get bigger and stronger (I’ve always had good results with Max-Ot style training)
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now say someone isn't quite considered a "vet" in training, do you feel this style of training will still yield gains in muscle mass and strength? I'm under the impression that each workout must be more intense than the last one in one way or another, whether it be lifting more weight, more reps with same weight,etc. in order to do this Ive found it hard to keep track of what i did last workout without writing it down, as i have tried this style before and didn't seem to reap any benefits. BTW I'm 23 and have been training about 7 years
No one is going to be able to add weight every workout. It's the general trend over time that needs to point up.
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Could work, but you have to have it down cold.
A set routine keeps you from slacking off.
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Not every workout has to be heavier than the last...IMO you have to think in terms of months or years not week to week. But you obviously will reach a ceiling of strength (you can't keep lifting heavier indefinitley) that is when other methods of progression I mentioned come into play plus you can use undulating periodization (light weeks and heavy weeks)... you can always improve on something. if you increase volume and intensity You must increase you food & rest as well.
Enjoy it while you are young because at a certain point after the beginner stage (especially as you get older) the weight & strength gains will become less. That's just the way it is. if you are doing it without hormones. I believe low volume, high intensity progressive high tension overload (with good form) is the way to train to get bigger and stronger (I’ve always had good results with Max-Ot style training)
great post, yea i tend to think too much a lot of times lol
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I started out weight training for sports so a lot of times I was doing basic movements and doing as my coaches instructed me.
After sports ended, I became religious in tracking my workouts. Log books, folders with loose papers, and each loaded with what I did each day. 8 week routines, 12 week routines... I knew each workout I was doing before I got to the gym.
As I progressed more, I learned what worked best for my body. What exercises hit me the hardest and what proved most effective. Also, as I got bigger, it became more obvious what body parts needed to be worked on.
Now, I go to the gym with a goal in mind. I know what needs to be worked on and what I want to accomplish in the gym so I get it done. I don't write things down religiously anymore and my workouts aren't set before I go in. It leaves things open for me to adjust things throughout the workout. If I go in thinking I'll do 4 sets of squats, but after 4 sets, I think I have more in me, I don't just stop! I do another set or 2. If I had a long day and I'm not able to do as much as much then I push myself to the max within what my body will allow on that day and I keep it moving.
I've tried all the training tools and all the methods... from weighted vests, plyometrics, sprints down a football field with a parachute harnessed on my back to basic squats and dealifts... at the end of the day, this is what you need to know:
Set your goals and train accordingly to reach your goals. From there, just remember two basic rules - intensity and consistency... don't overcomplicate things.
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The problem I have winging it is that it gives you license to slack off. If you don't have the reps and weight used for each set on a previous workout how can you compete against yourself? It's like a runner who never times his runs. Is just going by perceived exertion enough?
I really do envy guys that go into a gym with no plan. I guess I'm to rigid in my ways to do this. It does make sense from the point of sometimes your on top of her game and sometimes your not.
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I go to the gym with an idea as to what I am going to do for a certain bodypart.
Sometimes I stick with that plan.....on other occasions I abort that plan.....just depends on how the first set goes.....If I have a change of heart at the last minute....I will switch to a different exercise.
I never really worry about reps or sets.....rather concentrate on feeling the exercise.....I get distracted if I put too much focus on counting reps and sets.....If I have a great pump....then I have achieved my goal.
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I go to the gym with an idea as to what I am going to do for a certain bodypart.
Sometimes I stick with that plan.....on other occasions I abort that plan.....just depends on how the first set goes.....If I have a change of heart at the last minute....I will switch to a different exercise.
I never really worry about reps or sets.....rather concentrate on feeling the exercise.....I get distracted if I put too much focus on counting reps and sets.....If I have a great pump....then I have achieved my goal.
^THIS^
I map out what I`m going to do for the particular bodypart I`m gonna` train,but it`s subject to change.......I train by how I feel.
I still do the same bodyparts each week on the same days, and do approximately the same number of sets for each bodypart..........only the exrercises change for the most part,or the order of the exercises.......I rotate them in and out weekly.
At times,if I`m feeling weaker or tired,I`ll train with moderate weight but take shorter rest periods between sets,this makes lighter poundages feel heavier than they actually are.......other times I`ll go heavier if I`m feeling good on that day.
I also like to incorporate lots of different intensity techniques at times..ie., drop-sets,rest pause,pre-exhaust super-sets,half reps and 1 +1/2 reps................usua lly though,I stick to straight sets.
Gotta` keep it interesting or I just get stale/bored sticking to a rigid routine.
I`m all about developing muscle and being lean, as opposed to always just increasing poundages,but I train as heavy as I can for the reps I`m shooting for,and I push hard all the time.
As far as keeping track of weights from the previous workout,I never have any problem remembering what I did on the previous week.
Whatever you do in the gym,just be intense.
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Usually I'll do 3-4 ex per bodypart, the first one I'll go heavy (for me) on and keep that consistent for a while, trying to progress and set PRs. The other exercises I'll do more random and move more quickly between sets etc. more of a pumping effect.
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Never have a routine
I just do whatever I feel like that particular day
for example, if my joints hurt more than usual, I'll do light work with machines and cable
if I feel great, I'll do heavy dumbell work
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so do you guys use the mirror to gauge progress i guess? ??? i actually used to train this way for a little while as i said before, then again ive learned more since that time and am leaving the ego at the door(for the most part). it just seemed hard to remember what weight i did for everything the previous workout, but it does makes since reading this thread that you dont necessarily need to lift more weight each week.
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so do you guys use the mirror to gauge progress i guess? ??? i actually used to train this way for a little while as i said before, then again ive learned more since that time and am leaving the ego at the door(for the most part). it just seemed hard to remember what weight i did for everything the previous workout, but it does makes since reading this thread that you dont necessarily need to lift more weight each week.
You can only lift more weight week after week for so long...........then you have to become inventive to make the workouts more intense and still be result producing.
If strength was endless,we`d all be benching 1000 pounds for reps.
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yea true that haha. honestly id rather not log my workouts, it was fun just going in there and killing it. thing is i get too caught up in reading and how you hear you must lift more each week, increase reps etc. now say i go in one week lift x amount of weight for x amount of reps, but then next week i forgot what i lifted before and ended up doing less weight then the week before? thats my concern
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yea true that haha. honestly id rather not log my workouts, it was fun just going in there and killing it. thing is i get too caught up in reading and how you hear you must lift more each week, increase reps etc. now say i go in one week lift x amount of weight for x amount of reps, but then next week i forgot what i lifted before and ended up doing less weight then the week before? thats my concern
If it feels heavy,it is heavy!!
You should train heavy for the amount of reps you are gunning for.
Say you take a weight that you think you can get 8 reps with,well getting that 8 reps should be a challenge,and you should always go for one or two more if possible......... while staying safe of course.
It`s bodybuilding bro,not powerlifting,and by no means am I saying that you should use the little pink dumbells.........just push your ass off going as heavy as you can for 5-12 reps.........just as a general guide of course.
You must have a general idea of how strong you are.....if you bench 200 for 5 reps,then 170 for around 8 is a good goal,or 225 for 2-3 reps.............again,just an example.
Logging workouts is OK,but after a while it matters not .
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the amount of cals guys of a certain size are assumed to need is vastly overstated.
you can eat like a bird, and if your taking enough drugs you'll grow, and grow lean.
You are stupid as hell if you truly believe this.
GH15 has even said multiple times how stupid you will be if you don't eat crazy food if you want to get big as shit (along with the drugs, of course).
You think you will sniff the kind of size the pros rock without eating some serious calories, you are a delusional pos. You won't even sniff a shredded 190lbs.. And no, I ain't talking eating Mcdonalds and KFC all day. That will just turn you into a fat piece of shit powerlifter i.e. overkill. Muscle and fat in abundance.
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You are stupid as hell if you truly believe this.
GH15 has even said multiple times how stupid you will be if you don't eat crazy food if you want to get bag (along with the drugs, of course).
You think you will sniff the kind of size the pros rock without eating some serious calories, you are a delusional pos. You won't even sniff a shredded 190lbs.. And no, I ain't talking eating Mcdonalds and KFC all day. That will just turn you into a fat piece of shit powerlifter i.e. overkill. Muscle and fat in abundance.
Look at Buselmo's before and after pictures
nuff said
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Look at Buselmo's before and after pictures
nuff said
This is just bullshit plain and simple. He is obviously lying about how much he is taking in. As bodybuilders often do. See Max Charles.