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was logging my workouts for a while and recently started tracking my cals using myfitness pal...greatest app out btw! and for any who dont do either, or only do one do you feel you can still make gains this way?
in other words do you feel its NECESSARY to do both of these things in order to progress in whatever your goals may be? anyway curious to hear some answers here. one thing ive noticed since tracking is im eating what seems to be a lot of sugar, over 100g a day! ??? some fruit, milk, some ice cream and boom you're there lol. whats everyone doing?
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waste of time
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Fuck calories,think in terms of macros,and keep an eye on the mirror and adjust things accordingly.
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Fuck calories,think in terms of macros,and keep an eye on the mirror and adjust things accordingly.
lol i like, wheres my pm btw 8)
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I do log my workout but in regards of diet I just track the carbs..
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btw you feel this is too much sugar wes, im at 142g today?!
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and doing a different workout each time for each muscle group can still yield results huh? constantly switching reps, sets, exercises, rest. personally this is more fun to me, but i wanna be able to track progress....i know i know the mirror! haha
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I see many twinks holding their notebook/training log or whatever like their heirdom in the gym, between every set, they have to go to their priceless notebook to jot down some information about how much they benched for this set, and they also refer to previous pages to check how much improvement they already have made for today's training session, this, so far, is the gayest and most pathetic thing that I ever see in the gym.
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btw you feel this is too much sugar wes, im at 142g today?!
Sugar = empty calories.
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and doing a different workout each time for each muscle group can still yield results huh? constantly switching reps, sets, exercises, rest. personally this is more fun to me, but i wanna be able to track progress....i know i know the mirror! haha
For an idea on how to mix up workouts to keep things interesting,look at my posts in the Training Journals Section,and start a journal of your own.
Nothing worse than carrying a notebook and writing during a workout when you could/should be training or getting prepared for the next set.
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Sugar = empty calories.
right, but from a health standpoint? and pm......
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For an idea on how to mix up workouts to keep things interesting,look at my posts in the Training Journals Section,and start a journal of your own.
Nothing worse than carrying a notebook and writing during a workout when you could/should be training or getting prepared for the next set.
no doubt, and you just look at mirror and adjust huh, i guess this goes for everything. just track macros, do whatever in the gym to stimulate muscle.. and inject hormones haha?
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right, but from a health standpoint? and pm......
Dude,you sent me over 20 PMs that I replied to over a two day period.........not trying to be a dick here,but I`d like to just chill for a while and eat and read the board.
I`ll get back to you,no worries.
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Dude,you sent me over 20 PMs that I replied to over a two day period.........not trying to be a dick here,but I`d like to just chill for a while and eat and read the board.
I`ll get back to you,no worries.
lol sorry bro just cant get enough lol
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was just checking out your log bro, so you do log i see ;D.. i notice no deads or squats.....you mean i dont need these lifts to be a beast?! haha
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btw how did you remember all that to write down after you got home from gym?
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was logging my workouts for a while and recently started tracking my cals using myfitness pal...greatest app out btw! and for any who dont do either, or only do one do you feel you can still make gains this way?
in other words do you feel its NECESSARY to do both of these things in order to progress in whatever your goals may be? anyway curious to hear some answers here. one thing ive noticed since tracking is im eating what seems to be a lot of sugar, over 100g a day! ??? some fruit, milk, some ice cream and boom you're there lol. whats everyone doing?
I track my calories when I diet, when I don't diet I simply weigh myself now and then and use that as a rough guideline as to how much I'm eating. Obviously also use the mirror.
When it comes to workouts, I keep track of 5-6 key lifts* (in my head) but I don't keep track of every exercise. Poundages for isolation lifts and smaller muscle groups are only tracked during priority training.
*only top/peak weights (not every set)
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was just checking out your log bro, so you do log i see ;D.. i notice no deads or squats.....you mean i dont need these lifts to be a beast?! haha
Just started squats again today.......bad back from years of training.
I do deads,but not all the time..........depends on my goal at the time.......in that journal,I was training for some contests.
btw how did you remember all that to write down after you got home from gym?
I`ve been doing it so long,I have no problem remembering.
Now as far as other stuff goes,I can`t remember shit.
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Just started squats again today.......bad back from years of training.
I do deads,but not all the time..........depends on my goal at the time.......in that journal,I was training for some contests.
I`ve been doing it so long,I have no problem remembering.
Now as far as other stuff goes,I can`t remember shit.
haha. so from a hypertrophy standpoint do you feel squats/deads are needed?
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and thats the thing i know for a fact i cant remember what i did week to week! but yet you still feel it doesnt matter and i can still make gains in muscle size/strength?
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haha. so from a hypertrophy standpoint do you feel squats/deads are needed?
I would do them.......they are meat and potato type exercises.
For an example,Benches are gonna` give you a lot more bang for your buck than cable crossovers would and squats are gonna` be more effective than leg extensions ,etc. etc.
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haha. so from a hypertrophy standpoint do you feel squats/deads are needed?
They are not a must but can be excellent exercises if you like doing them and are built for them.
You don't have to squat to get big legs there are other exercises you can use to overload your quads. Whatever works for you.
You sound stressed by training theory :D I used to be that way too. Still am, but much less so nowdays.
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and thats the thing i know for a fact i cant remember what i did week to week! but yet you still feel it doesnt matter and i can still make gains in muscle size/strength?
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Just write down the top weights of a few key exercises on your cell phone. 1-2 heaviest set on bench, squat, pulldown, row, shoulder press, deadlift or whatever exercises you are using. Easy. When you feel good you try to increase weight or reps. When you don't feel good, you don't.
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They are not a must but can be excellent exercises if you like doing them and are built for them.
You don't have to squat to get big legs there are other exercises you can use to overload your quads. Whatever works for you.
You sound stressed by training theory :D I used to be that way too. Still am, but much less so nowdays.
Yup.............leg presses,hacks,leg slide,all good movements.
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was logging my workouts for a while and recently started tracking my cals using myfitness pal...greatest app out btw! and for any who dont do either, or only do one do you feel you can still make gains this way?
in other words do you feel its NECESSARY to do both of these things in order to progress in whatever your goals may be? anyway curious to hear some answers here. one thing ive noticed since tracking is im eating what seems to be a lot of sugar, over 100g a day! ??? some fruit, milk, some ice cream and boom you're there lol. whats everyone doing?
cals and cardio here. i dont log weights
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yea i do both of them, but seems im not getting much out of them. squats have been a staple for a while, ive cycled them on and off, but for the most part have been there. deads only got serious with them in the past few months. still i feel im not getting much out of either
yea i def stress way too much about all this shit man
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yea i do both of them, but seems im not getting much out of them. squats have been a staple for a while, ive cycled them on and off, but for the most part have been there. deads only got serious with them in the past few months. still i feel im not getting much out of either
yea i def stress way too much about all this shit man
You are gonna take all the fun out of working out if you continue doing that! Try to relax and find a happy medium. You need to find an 'organic' approach that you can live with.
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You are gonna take all the fun out of working out if you continue doing that! Try to relax and find a happy medium. You need to find an 'organic' approach that you can live with.
lol yea i think im just gonna go in do whatever the hell i feel like, get out within 45-1hr and call it a day from now on. just seems i havent made any REAL gains in a looonnggg time.....sucks
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lol yea i think im just gonna go in do whatever the hell i feel like, get out within 45-1hr and call it a day from now on. just seems i havent made any REAL gains in a looonnggg time.....sucks
A real good approach for someone who has been training for a few years is to pick 1-2 muscle groups or lifts and focus on them for 2 months and just maintain the other muscle groups. This way you can focus your mental and physical energy and not have to spread them thin.
So pick 1-2 muscle groups and blast them for a couple of months. Work them twice a week or even try training them 3 days in a row or twice a day or something like that.
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A real good approach for someone who has been training for a few years is to pick 1-2 muscle groups or lifts and focus on them for 2 months and just maintain the other muscle groups. This way you can focus your mental and physical energy and not have to spread them thin.
So pick 1-2 muscle groups and blast them for a couple of months. Work them twice a week or even try training them 3 days in a row or twice a day or something like that.
hmm this may be an idea for my damn chest, it doesnt wanna grow!.....synthol ftw? i kid hahaha
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I log the important stuff in my head. If it's worth remembering, I'll remember it.
The people I see at the gym with their face in their log books are either queer asses or Danta worshipping permabulkers. We have one of those guys at my gym lol oh brother!
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hmm this may be an idea for my damn chest, it doesnt wanna grow!.....synthol ftw? i kid hahaha
Yes so make the next two months into 'chest months', and just do low volume maintenance work for other muscle groups. This will make you much more focused.
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I log the important stuff in my head. If it's worth remembering, I'll remember it.
The people I see at the gym with their face in their log books are either queer asses or Danta worshipping permabulkers. We have one of those guys at my gym lol oh brother!
x2 on logging in my head. I've kept a few online journals, mainly for the social aspect (wow that sounds bad) but if you can't fucking remember what you did last week on a few exercises... Not to mention once you actually get strong (relative to your own genetics) it's not like the numbers are gonna be climbing every week.
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x2 on logging in my head. I've kept a few online journals, mainly for the social aspect (wow that sounds bad) but if you can't fucking remember what you did last week on a few exercises... Not to mention once you actually get strong (relative to your own genetics) it's not like the numbers are gonna be climbing every week.
Exactly..........unless you`re training to beat the logbook like the dogcrapp dudes. ;D
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good advice here fellas thank you, if this board had rep points they would be getting spread around like candy lol. btw off topic but, how come you cant see the topics you started, only the posts?
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Exactly..........unless you`re training to beat the logbook like the dogcrapp dudes. ;D
Yeah logbook obsession is gonna burn you out and cause anxiety or get you injured because you end up trying to force the poundages when you are having an off day.
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good advice here fellas thank you, if this board had rep points they would be getting spread around like candy lol. btw off topic but, how come you cant see the topics you started, only the posts?
I can always see both ???
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and what if i switched everything up every workout? ex: incline bb, flat bb, incline flies one week,then smith flat bench, decline db, and dips, then something different the next week? all with different sets/reps, would this matter? then there would be no need to remember what i did last week bc it would always be different lol
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Yeah logbook obsession is gonna burn you out and cause anxiety or get you injured because you end up trying to force the poundages when you are having an off day.
Right,after training for a lot of years,your strength just doesn`t go up every workout no matter how hard you train......if it did,we`d all be benching 1000 pounds for reps! ;D
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I can always see both ???
i mean you only have the option to check your posts and then you can see the topic the post was in. why cant you just go to a certain topic, instead of having to go through all your posts to find a specific topic
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and what if i switched everything up every workout? ex: incline bb, flat bb, incline flies one week,then smith flat bench, decline db, and dips, then something different the next week? all with different sets/reps, would this matter? then there would be no need to remember what i did last week bc it would always be different lol
Don't switch everything up, you need some constants in your routine that you can use as reference points. Secondary exercises you can switch around tho. Also regulate how heavy you go depending on how you feel and don't lock yourself to certain workout days. If you feel like crap one day take a rest day and come back the next day and have a kickass workout.
Planned chaos...not anarchy. ;D
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Don't switch everything up, you need some constants in your routine that you can use as reference points. Secondary exercises you can switch around tho. Also regulate how heavy you go depending on how you feel and don't lock yourself to certain workout days. If you feel like crap one day take a rest day and come back the next day and have a kickass workout.
wes do you agree here? ;)
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Don't switch everything up, you need some constants in your routine that you can use as reference points. Secondary exercises you can switch around tho. Also regulate how heavy you go depending on how you feel and don't lock yourself to certain workout days. If you feel like crap one day take a rest day and come back the next day and have a kickass workout.
Yeah,he might just be better off waiting to try something like switching things up every workout.
I did recommend that to him,but on second thought it`s maybe not such a good idea.
I stayed on set schedules for years,changing things up if I felt stale,but now it`s always something different every week.
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Try to get whatever clean stuff down i can as long as i can(chick brst,salmon,shakes etc).then cheat. I cant eat100 :(% clean all the time. I would go insane. So i found a happy medium.
Workout is pure instinct. I think sometimes u gotta listen to ur body. Lately its been pedal to the floor lol. I have to make myself stop. Recovery is literally ridiculous. I called in sick to work today just to lift.
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Yeah,he might just be better off waiting to try something like switching things up every workout.
I did recommend that to him,but on second thought it`s maybe not such a good idea.
I stayed on set schedules for years,changing things up if I felt stale,but now it`s always something different every week.
why not?
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Try to get whatever clean stuff down i can as long as i can(chick brst,salmon,shakes etc).then cheat. I cant eat100 :(% clean all the time. I would go insane. So i found a happy medium.
Workout is pure instinct. I think sometimes u gotta listen to ur body. Lately its been pedal to the floor lol. I have to make myself stop. Recovery is literally rediculous. I called in sick to work today just to lift.
now thats dedication haha
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why not?
Because like T-Rex said,it`s kind of based on instinct in a way.
You have to know your body really well,and go by feel.
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Because like T-Rex said,it`s kind of based on instinct in a way.
You have to know your body really well,and go by feel.
Bingo. If someone learns how to become intuitive then there's nothing more to the training discussion, really.
It's unfortunately something you can't teach everyone though. Most people need a cookie cutter routine or they just stop going to the gym. It's better to have a loose game plan and go in there and let your body take over from there.
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Because like T-Rex said,it`s kind of based on instinct in a way.
You have to know your body really well,and go by feel.
so i gotta stick to same routine youre saying ???
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and i understand about the whole instinctive thing, honestly i havent figured my body out yet unfortunately
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was logging my workouts for a while and recently started tracking my cals using myfitness pal...greatest app out btw! and for any who dont do either, or only do one do you feel you can still make gains this way?
in other words do you feel its NECESSARY to do both of these things in order to progress in whatever your goals may be? anyway curious to hear some answers here. one thing ive noticed since tracking is im eating what seems to be a lot of sugar, over 100g a day! ??? some fruit, milk, some ice cream and boom you're there lol. whats everyone doing?
I log doing your mom, 'cause I got more things to do..... ;)
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so how about doing the same thing for my first exercise and just focus on that, while switching up 2nd, 3rd, 4th exercises as i see fit? example stick to incline smith always keeping it first in my routine, then switch up my next 2 or 3 exercises?
and how about volume, stick to moderate as in 12-15 sets for legs, chest, back, shoulders and 6-8 sets for arms, calves, traps? finally weight each set, pyramid up, keep it the same....should i go to failure?
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waste of time
x2. Most of the people I see in the gym writing down their sets, reps, etc. in their log books are tiny twinks.
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I log the food but not the workouts.
I used to be a fat fuck and logged it while I was getting back in shape and just haven't stopped. The program I use is fitday; also helps to track my cycle, dosages and bodyweight.
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so how about doing the same thing for my first exercise and just focus on that, while switching up 2nd, 3rd, 4th exercises as i see fit? example stick to incline smith always keeping it first in my routine, then switch up my next 2 or 3 exercises?
and how about volume, stick to moderate as in 12-15 sets for legs, chest, back, shoulders and 6-8 sets for arms, calves, traps? finally weight each set, pyramid up, keep it the same....should i go to failure?
carry a pair of dice in your pocket at all times
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so how about doing the same thing for my first exercise and just focus on that, while switching up 2nd, 3rd, 4th exercises as i see fit? example stick to incline smith always keeping it first in my routine, then switch up my next 2 or 3 exercises?
and how about volume, stick to moderate as in 12-15 sets for legs, chest, back, shoulders and 6-8 sets for arms, calves, traps? finally weight each set, pyramid up, keep it the same....should i go to failure?
bump
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carry a pair of dice in your pocket at all times
lol huh
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i used to do it, i did make good gains progressing in each workout but some times i forgot the pen, others the notebook...plus i lost focus on the workout trying to focus logging and reading past workouts.
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lol huh
so you don't have to decide, just roll the dice and do what the dice says.
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i used to do it, i did make good gains progressing in each workout but some times i forgot the pen, others the notebook...plus i lost focus on the workout trying to focus logging and reading past workouts.
so what do you do now just something different each time?
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to each is to there own but training/diet logs work for some and i see guys in the gym finish a few swts go to there pad and write ok,,,really other than pure strenght goal if thats what u do then i can see,otherwise pic up dumbell or barbell pull,press,see what happens if it keeps happening its working if not change it some ,,look in mirror,weigh yourself occassionally,,if u get compliments ur doing ok,,,,
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to each is to there own but training/diet logs work for some and i see guys in the gym finish a few swts go to there pad and write ok,,,really other than pure strenght goal if thats what u do then i can see,otherwise pic up dumbell or barbell pull,press,see what happens if it keeps happening its working if not change it some ,,look in mirror,weigh yourself occassionally,,if u get compliments ur doing ok,,,,
yea i gotta stop over thinking. btw why you being a dick in my other thread bro >:(
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yea i gotta stop over thinking. btw why you being a dick in my other thread bro >:(
???,,i said one comment about dnp ,,ya got me mixed up with someone else...
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I always use a log book at the gym. Im a big believer in using journals for everything in life.
I like to progressive lift and I cant remember what I did in terms of reps/weight from a week ago, so I write it down.
Bodybuilding and powerfliting are about gaining experience and learning as you go. How can you do that if there is no evidence of what you did previously? How do you know what adjustments to make?
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???,,i said one comment about dnp ,,ya got me mixed up with someone else...
i see now lol, at least youre with me!
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Haven't logged my work outs in forever... and don't think I ever will... just seems to be a waste of time to me... considering, even if you are making progress, everyday, every week, will be different, some days you will be stressed, some days you will be tired, some days you will be sick, etc etc... So meh...
As for diet, I have a basic meal plan / calorie plan written out on excel... and I try to stick to it (but doesn't always happen), I don't log everything that I eat religiously... even when I'm dieting for a show, I just refer to the pre-written plan on excel.. again never really write it down every night or anything!
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Haven't logged my work outs in forever... and don't think I ever will... just seems to be a waste of time to me... considering, even if you are making progress, everyday, every week, will be different, some days you will be stressed, some days you will be tired, some days you will be sick, etc etc... So meh...
As for diet, I have a basic meal plan / calorie plan written out on excel... and I try to stick to it (but doesn't always happen), I don't log everything that I eat religiously... even when I'm dieting for a show, I just refer to the pre-written plan on excel.. again never really write it down every night or anything!
well get dieting again big man,,,
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well get dieting again big man,,,
I'm trying to clean it up some lol... cutting out desserts, eating right, that sort of thing... really really need to start doing cardio again though!
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I log my training session.
I weigh my self every week to 10 days and write the date at the top of every page. I will record what I am training that day and then I simply put the exercise I am doing, the number of reps, sets and weight for each exercise.
Everytime I train a part I aim to increase the reps or weight, it may only be 1 rep in 4 sets but it must go up, to be honest it does 95% of the time, just occasionally you stall as I not had enough foof/rest etc.
Would never ever train without doing this. I used to and progress was slow, records help big time.
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so what do you do now just something different each time?
by now i already know the exercises i like and feel the most in the muscle. When im in the lifting room i 'plan' my workout 'instinctively' right there. If im feeling tired during the warmups i'll rep out if i feel like warmups feel light i'll may attempt to max out on the first working set in (note for me maxing out is at least 6-7reps NEVER 1rep) and then rep out the rest.