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Anyone have any experience with chiropractors here?
I've had some nagging lower back pain from an injury I had in 2009. Long story short, I twisted my back playing soccer and following that I did a few leg workouts and ended up fucking shit up from deadlifting. Got an MRI which showed nothing, but I did some phys therapy which helped but the pain always comes back when I start working out again.
I don't want to give up soccer, or leg training.. and I suspect the physical therapist won't help, so I was considering going to a chiropractor. I don't even know if my insurance will cover it, but if it helps with quality of life its worth the price (hopefully).
Discuss below.
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ive gone a few times, helped me. they are surprisingly inexpensive too
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ive gone a few times, helped me. they are surprisingly inexpensive too
lower back pain? were u able to resume normal activities like working out? thanks for the reply
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Maybe you should go to Dr. Dena. Hipolito mejia might arrange that.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=304122.0
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Maybe you should go to Dr. Dena. Hipolito mejia might arrange that.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=304122.0
I don't want to be schmoesquatted :-\
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They seem to help,but in my opinion,they are a temporary fix at best.
I used to feel like a million bucks walking out of my old Chiros office..........afew days later,I had the same aches and pains as always.
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lower back pain? were u able to resume normal activities like working out? thanks for the reply
yes, lower back, one time fucked it up mowing the lawn. ::) was bed ridden for about a week. went to chiro, was walking shortly thereafter and resumed full activity after 3 weeks
other time ( several years after first) pulled something at work, not nearly as bad as the first time, but went to chiro and felt good after a week or so.
my back is fine , still do heavy DL and squats
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There's not really any science behind what they do but if you're having pain that won't go away and it's within your budget, may as well give it a try. It seems to work for some.
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I go once every 3 weeks. It's started with twice a week now I'm doing maintenance. I have a bad neck it hurts like hell all of the time. I had a pinched nerve I think. He took an xray of my spine. The cervical spine should have a bit of a curvature. Mine is completely straight! He hasn't seen one as straight as mine before. The appointment starts with a 45 minute massage. God It's amazing. They have about 5 professional massage therapists on staff. They're all different and great. I get a deep tissue massage. They get every single knot out of my back. It's rejuvenating feels amazing. After that I get a heating pad on my neck with electric stim. Then I get an adjustment. My insurance is pretty good so I only pay 10 dollar co pay. Should be 20 but I've gotten 2-3 other people to go and he cuts me a deal. He's a real good guy. I would highly recommend it. Make sure you get the massage though that's really the best part I wouldn't go if they didn't have it.
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They seem to help,but in my opinion,they are a temporary fix at best.
I used to feel like a million bucks walking out of my old Chiros office..........afew days later,I had the same aches and pains as always.
Spot on.
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Imo the massage is really the crucial part. It gets blood flowing to the injured areas gets you loosened up. It does more for me than the actual adjustments.
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They seem to help,but in my opinion,they are a temporary fix at best.
I used to feel like a million bucks walking out of my old Chiros office..........afew days later,I had the same aches and pains as always.
Thanks for the reply. I have the same opinion of physiotherapists to be honest. I don't feel like going through another month of therapy with no solid end result.
yes, lower back, one time fucked it up mowing the lawn. ::) was bed ridden for about a week. went to chiro, was walking shortly thereafter and resumed full activity after 3 weeks
other time ( several years after first) pulled something at work, not nearly as bad as the first time, but went to chiro and felt good after a week or so.
my back is fine , still do heavy DL and squats
cool, good for you man. I suspect I might have to bear with this my whole life, dad has the same lower back problems :-\
There's not really any science behind what they do but if you're having pain that won't go away and it's within your budget, may as well give it a try. It seems to work for some.
That's too bad. Why is the lower back so prone to injury?
I go once every 3 weeks. It's started with twice a week now I'm doing maintenance. I have a bad neck it hurts like hell all of the time. I had a pinched nerve I think. He took an xray of my spine. The cervical spine should have a bit of a curvature. Mine is completely straight! He hasn't seen one as straight as mine before. The appointment starts with a 45 minute massage. God It's amazing. They have about 5 professional massage therapists on staff. They're all different and great. I get a deep tissue massage. They get every single knot out of my back. It's rejuvenating feels amazing. After that I get a heating pad on my neck with electric stim. Then I get an adjustment. My insurance is pretty good so I only pay 10 dollar co pay. Should be 20 but I've gotten 2-3 other people to go and he cuts me a deal. He's a real good guy. I would highly recommend it. Make sure you get the massage though that's really the best part I wouldn't go if they didn't have it.
You have neck pain but come out with a free back rub? ??? Suspicious... just kidding ;D
Is the massage part of the treatment, or extra? Fuck yea man, a massage sounds amazing. I don't have any muscular pain though, so I don't know if it would help with the pain >:( Appreciate the reply bro.
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The chick massage therapists love me there ;D A couple of them told me they get excited when they see my name on the list.
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The chick massage therapists love me there ;D A couple of them told me they get excited when they see my name on the list.
on a tangent here: ever had to deal with accidental boners from the massage when the male therapist comes? How would you deal with that? ;D
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I used one on and off for years for a neck issue.
Absolutely helped, big time.
Now be careful though, many chiros are wackos that claim they can cure allergies and other ailments like ADD etc.
Stay FAR away from these fuckers. Also ONE adjustment a week is enough. ONE.
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I used one on and off for years for a neck issue.
Absolutely helped, big time.
Now be careful though, many chiros are wackos that claim they can cure allergies and other ailments like ADD etc.
Stay FAR away from these fuckers. Also ONE adjustment a week is enough. ONE.
Very true you have to be selective about who you trust. Check out review on the interent it's always good to do your research.
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I used one on and off for years for a neck issue.
Absolutely helped, big time.
Now be careful though, many chiros are wackos that claim they can cure allergies and other ailments like ADD etc.
Stay FAR away from these fuckers. Also ONE adjustment a week is enough. ONE.
thanks for the heads up bro. how much did the treatment cost you?
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thanks for the heads up bro. how much did the treatment cost you?
I knew the guy from my gym, he refused to charge me. He kept saying that I made him laugh.....
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I knew the guy from my gym, he refused to charge me. He kept saying that I made him laugh.....
Did he massage your prostate too?
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My neck and lower back are toast.
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on a tangent here: ever had to deal with accidental boners from the massage when the male therapist comes? How would you deal with that? ;D
You mean like the Sienfeld episode ;D
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Did he massage your prostate too?
thats what made him laugh...
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There's not really any science behind what they do but if you're having pain that won't go away and it's within your budget, may as well give it a try. It seems to work for some.
Wasn't going to chime in, but you may want to look up some of the research. Invariably this is going to just turn into a shitty thread.....
How about those men oiled up thongs this past weekend? ((no homo))
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I would highly recomend Dr. Dena Westerfield
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I would highly recomend Dr. Dena Westerfield
What is her exact location?
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What is her exact location?
Probably still in Columbus with a schmoe
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Wasn't going to chime in, but you may want to look up some of the research. Invariably this is going to just turn into a shitty thread.....
How about those men oiled up thongs this past weekend? ((no homo))
I look up plenty of research. Chiropractic is alternative medicine, not science. There's been tons of great work on back pain for a lot of years, sure, but chiros aren't taught any of it and the therapeutic benefit of spinal manipulation most certainly hasn't been demonstrated to a reasonable level of confidence in anything resembling large clinical trials.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20393942
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21207089
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20389316
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18280103
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14668650
...among many others. If it works, great, I'm sure it's a great option for some people, but it's a very dogmatic field.
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Chiropractors are not a bad option.
Their origins might seem a little strange, but, in practice, they often times deliver a good service.
Remember, Western Medicine is not the authority on ALL forms of medicine.
Give it a try and if you don't like their service, don't return.
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Anyone have any experience with chiropractors here?
I've had some nagging lower back pain from an injury I had in 2009. Long story short, I twisted my back playing soccer and following that I did a few leg workouts and ended up fucking shit up from deadlifting. Got an MRI which showed nothing, but I did some phys therapy which helped but the pain always comes back when I start working out again.
I don't want to give up soccer, or leg training.. and I suspect the physical therapist won't help, so I was considering going to a chiropractor. I don't even know if my insurance will cover it, but if it helps with quality of life its worth the price (hopefully).
Discuss below.
I have one on my staff. You don't have to give up soccer, you just have to learn to train right and stay away from the isolation bodybuilding bullshit. If you're playing a real sport, train like an athlete not a bodybuilder.
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I look up plenty of research. Chiropractic is alternative medicine, not science. There's been tons of great work on back pain for a lot of years, sure, but chiros aren't taught any of it and the therapeutic benefit of spinal manipulation most certainly hasn't been demonstrated to a reasonable level of confidence in anything resembling large clinical trials.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20393942
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21207089
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20389316
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18280103
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14668650
...among many others. If it works, great, I'm sure it's a great option for some people, but it's a very dogmatic field.
As far as science goes, thats probably left to pharmaceutical stuff. Surgery isnt science. Less than 30% of all surgical procedures have any research behind it. There is an astound lack of communication between multiple MD's on a patient. So much so that I have had one patient that has come into my office and upon looking ather drug list...and looking up the interactions....I was amazed and frightened. Of the 22 interactions, 10 were of the 'severe' category, and about 9 were of the 'moderate' type. Where is the science behind that?
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You're welcome.
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As far as science goes, thats probably left to pharmaceutical stuff. Surgery isnt science. Less than 30% of all surgical procedures have any research behind it. There is an astound lack of communication between multiple MD's on a patient. So much so that I have had one patient that has come into my office and upon looking ather drug list...and looking up the interactions....I was amazed and frightened. Of the 22 interactions, 10 were of the 'severe' category, and about 9 were of the 'moderate' type. Where is the science behind that?
Science isn't at all left to "pharmaceutical stuff", there's tons of very good research in clinical biomechanics and orthopedics on back pain (see the link Coach posted for example) but it sure as hell isn't being done or practiced by chiros.
I don't know what point you're trying to make for sure with the surgery and drug interactions stuff. An MD is a professional degree and most who actually see patients on a regular basis aren't researchers any more than a chiro is, but there's plenty of research behind the drugs they prescribe and the procedures they perform, much more so than there is in chiropractic.
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I herniated a few discs a couple years ago
on the job having sex with four supermodels at once.
I had used a chiro on a bad back in the past with short periods of relief but this time I went with IDD therapy at a docs office, they have it at phys therapy places as well.
Anyway, you lay on a machine that heats, massages, and stretches you all at once. The therapy took 4 weeks but it has lasted almost 5 years now. The shit worked for me and I never had to use any narcotics for the pain, which is how a lot of people get into trouble with pills.
IDD, google it.
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DO NOT GO, THEY ARE QUACKS!!!! I've posted it before, and I will say it again. A chriropractor caused me to have a stroke from a neck manipulation. I fell out right in his office, had to get an ambulance to come pick me up. I posted about it in the thread on "what humbled you the most in life". Seriously, PM me if you have any serious questions about that shit.
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I had one Chiropractor tell me once that my traps and neck were the most tense on anyone he ever saw.......he actually hurt his shoulder trying to pop out my lower back.
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I had one Chiropractor tell me once that my traps and neck were the most tense on anyone he ever saw.......he actually hurt his shoulder trying to pop out my lower back.
You must be a beast
;D
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I had one Chiropractor tell me once that my traps and neck were the most tense on anyone he ever saw.......he actually hurt his shoulder trying to pop out my lower back.
I'm sure that's all he was doing to hurt himself ::)
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No shit,guy lays me on my side,grabs my hip,pulls...........................................
errr........nevermind! ;D
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Honestly, I like the chiropractor.
But, it is a temporary fix.
After years of squatting/deadlifting/sports, my low back had some issues (which I ultimately found was more than likely due to IT band and piriformis tightness). Supermans, Cobra pose and hyperextensions (making sure not to go too far past 180 degrees--I have a very flexible back--which actually can be harmful) were de riguer.
But honestly, the thing I believe helped me the most is an inversion table. Teeter brand. I also followed the video, and I am now back to normal squatting and deadlifting with no ills.
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I always felt it was quackery at it's finest. They say your spine is out of alignment and fix it by cracking your back? The only reason health insurance covers it is because the customers of insurance demands it. It's amazing how many attorneys use them as proof of an injury in a law suit. They all make big money from being a partnered with suing attorneys.
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Where the chiro "doctors" go wrong is when they make outlandish/ bullshit claims.
Any chiro that works on a child=bunk.
Any chiro that claims they can cure ANY DISEASE OF ANY KIND=BULLSHIT.
Like any profession, some are good and some suck.
My chiro def helped relieve pain and stiffness in my neck and traps.
hehe I said stiffness....
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Fiance has been seeing chiropractors for 15 years for the same problem. Obviously it doesn't do shit, except for pay for the chiro's new Mercedes. Bunch of quacks/thieves preying on the naive.