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Title: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: dantelis on March 08, 2012, 01:52:34 PM
Do you think Wolf's weak calves are a genetic predisposition that he can never overcome, or do you think that he could train them more to make them Olympia caliber?  Arnold claims to have had weak calves when he came over from Europe and did high volume training, sometime 6 days per week, to bring up his calves to be some of the best in the business.  (Know there is endless debate whether Arnold had implants, but don't think the evidence is there.)

Could Wolf do the same as Arnold and bring up his calves to make that weakness into a strength?

http://www.simplyshredded.com/oak-roots-how-arnold-turned-his-biggest-weakness%C2%97-his-calves-into-a-showcase-muscle.html (http://www.simplyshredded.com/oak-roots-how-arnold-turned-his-biggest-weakness%C2%97-his-calves-into-a-showcase-muscle.html)

Arnold's Calf Routine
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Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Dr Dutch on March 08, 2012, 01:53:31 PM
Simple. Calves for Wolf=implants. End of thread.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: wes on March 08, 2012, 01:54:58 PM
He doesn`t train the rest of his body hard,I doubt if he busts balls on calves!
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: A Professional on March 08, 2012, 01:55:25 PM
I've heard the Arnold had implants from Mexico. Who knows.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Dr Dutch on March 08, 2012, 01:56:12 PM
I've heard the Arnold had implants from Mexico. Who knows.
No. Early 70s no way...
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: A Professional on March 08, 2012, 01:56:43 PM
No. Early 70s no way...

Wouldn't be surprised if another bodybuilding rumor is bs.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Jaime on March 08, 2012, 01:57:12 PM
Genetics of course, stupid question.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Royalty on March 08, 2012, 02:01:40 PM
I think short calves tend to resist one's gym efforts. If he had longer calves like Mattarazzo or Yates or Dillett; Wolf would be a 2-time arnold classic winner; and possibly wouldve won the 2007 Mr olympia
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: ChristopherA on March 08, 2012, 02:04:00 PM
I find it hard to believe you can get your that big but just one body part won't respond at all. They prob are his one stubborn body part and he's just given up. They were better than they are now at one point that's why I say that. Who knows calves are funny. Mine have been as high as 19" and I have prob trained them a dozen times total in my life
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Parker on March 08, 2012, 02:06:35 PM
No. Early 70s no way...
Kitten Natividad had breast implant procedure there.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: hazbin on March 08, 2012, 02:08:00 PM
the weird thing is how much worse they are now than they were a few years ago ???
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: ChristopherA on March 08, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
the weird thing is how much worse they are now than they were a few years ago ???
That's what I'm saying. It's like he gave up training them
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: affeman on March 08, 2012, 02:13:42 PM
the weird thing is how much worse they are now than they were a few years ago ???

Hell, even a complete retard can see that Wolf has torn his left calve ::)

That's what I'm saying. It's like he gave up training them

Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason ::)


As for Arnold, Arnold is a pathological liar who spits 5 lies in 3 sentences, I wouldn't believe this man anything.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Voland on March 08, 2012, 02:15:56 PM
i mean seriously who cares about calves.
show me the guns!
won't peeeeeeel.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: mik1111 on March 08, 2012, 02:29:28 PM
wolf had decent calves at 07- implants.
check the pics and see for yourselves


Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: hench on March 08, 2012, 03:28:39 PM
yea strange, they were ok size with diamond shape there, now they are just straight up and down.
Didn't look like implants then either
wolf had decent calves at 07- implants.
check the pics and see for yourselves



Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: hardgainerj on March 08, 2012, 03:33:57 PM
Dennis = no calves

Branch = no shape
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 08, 2012, 03:37:10 PM
Do you think Wolf's weak calves are a genetic predisposition that he can never overcome, or do you think that he could train them more to make them Olympia caliber?  Arnold claims to have had weak calves when he came over from Europe and did high volume training, sometime 6 days per week, to bring up his calves to be some of the best in the business.  (Know there is endless debate whether Arnold had implants, but don't think the evidence is there.)

Could Wolf do the same as Arnold and bring up his calves to make that weakness into a strength?



Arnold's Calf Routine


You can't fight genetics , Wolf will never have the muscle cell allocation in his calves so they will never be much better
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Metabolic on March 08, 2012, 03:41:23 PM
All muscle have potential for growth, even though little, if it at least looked like he trained them, besides the tear... I mean, at least show some effort Dennis.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: dantelis on March 08, 2012, 04:43:38 PM
wolf had decent calves at 07- implants.
check the pics and see for yourselves




His color seems better in '07 too.  The last few years, his spray tans have been blotchy.  Would be great to see the competitors go back to natural tans and eliminate the spray tan.  Know there is the skin cancer risk, but how much worse could it be than the risk of screwing up your kidneys with HGH?
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: delta9mda on March 08, 2012, 05:06:39 PM
wolf had decent calves at 07- implants.
check the pics and see for yourselves



NOT implants. they moved when he flexed. if you want to see implants look at Lou at the 92-93 Olympia.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Nails on March 08, 2012, 05:09:29 PM
NOT implants. they moved when he flexed. if you want to see implants look at Lou at the 92-93 Olympia.


Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Colemans#1 on March 08, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
he probably has some kind of nerve damage from jabbing them too much
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: quadzilla456 on March 08, 2012, 05:58:31 PM
he probably has some kind of nerve damage from jabbing them too much
Clearly an injury. Too bad because he has an excellent structure. Only other complaint is his biceps peak is not spectacular but he makes up for it through his width and insane taper.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: m8 on March 08, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
wolf had decent calves at 07- implants.
check the pics and see for yourselves




This type of tan worked better for him, I must say  :o
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: jude2 on March 08, 2012, 06:57:18 PM
he probably has some kind of nerve damage from jabbing them too much
No doubt and really bad in  his left calf. I quess he was trying to bring them up the gh15 way instead of Arnold's way.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Vince B on March 08, 2012, 07:06:08 PM
Arnold was unique re his calves. In 1968 in Golds Gym I measured his arms at 21 1/2 inches. He was 62 inches around the shoulders. He wouldn't let me measure his calves and told me to come back in a couple of weeks. I went back to Canada, instead.

Well, Arnold looks huge when he poses his calves from the side. No one else has that bulge. From the back they look a bit weird....unlike Platz and Dorian who have huge calves. So the question is open about how Arnold got huge calves in record time.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: jude2 on March 08, 2012, 07:21:32 PM
Arnolds calves looked good in Twins.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: mcluvin on March 08, 2012, 07:26:28 PM
I've heard the Arnold had implants from Mexico. Who knows.

Medical calve implants were started in the 80's in Mexico. Romano took a female bodybuilder down there and she lost both legs from the knees down due to circulation problems. In the 80's it was still experimental. Arnold had BIG calves in the late 60's. Nobody was doing calve implants in the 60's.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: oliveiraugo on March 08, 2012, 07:54:36 PM
How many times i have to repeat this

every single bodybuilder who steps on mr. olympia have SEO on their calves... not genetic, no trainning til you get a injury

For some reason wolf hasnt, i donīt know why tho

Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: jude2 on March 08, 2012, 08:02:47 PM
How many times i have to repeat this

every single bodybuilder who steps on mr. olympia have SEO on their calves... not genetic, no trainning til you get a injury

For some reason wolf hasnt, i donīt know why tho


Would u make this a little more clear?
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 08, 2012, 08:18:03 PM
i saw wolf up close in april 2011 and his calves looked pretty big but his leg was too long for the calf to fill it up


but then at the olympia it was like he lost his left calf somehow
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: dantelis on March 08, 2012, 09:17:26 PM



Definitely looks suspect.  Was Lou doing heavy doses of HGH then too?  Looks like he has borderline Palumboism.  His belly looks horrible.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: animal1991 on March 09, 2012, 02:00:43 AM
I think short calves tend to resist one's gym efforts. If he had longer calves like Mattarazzo or Yates or Dillett; Wolf would be a 2-time arnold classic winner; and possibly wouldve won the 2007 Mr olympia
This is actually quite plausible. In one of the books I have "Strenght Training and Anatomy" it actually states that longer calves respond better to training and grow easier then shorter calves.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Meso_z on March 09, 2012, 02:03:17 AM
wolf had decent calves at 07- implants.
check the pics and see for yourselves



His 07 look was awesome.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: wes on March 09, 2012, 04:25:07 AM
Ferrigno had calf implants for a while................... Arnolds calves were/are real.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: delta9mda on March 09, 2012, 06:42:23 AM
How many times i have to repeat this

every single bodybuilder who steps on mr. olympia have SEO on their calves... not genetic, no trainning til you get a injury

For some reason wolf hasnt, i donīt know why tho


no they do not. Yates, Nasser, Mattarazzo, Pakulsky etc do not hove seo. this is genetics.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: notsureifsrs on March 09, 2012, 06:49:54 AM
Yeah he probably just need to train them more often with higher volume...

srsly were you high when you wrote it?
he is pro bodybuilder attending the O several years already im pretty sure he did anything and everything under the sky to bring them up, hell im sure he injected every possible thing in them.

Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: NotMrAverage on March 09, 2012, 08:00:14 AM
I believe itīs nerve damage as someone already stated. His right lat have also gotten smaller in the last 2 years. I donīt know why he have the lat problem. Itīs possible he injected this site too since alot of people calls him out on having a weak back... If you try injecting calves yourself you will notice how much damn nerves this site really got. I tried to bring mine up with some SEO like 10 years ago and sometimes I would hit a nerve so bad that the whole damn thing contracted so hard the the syringe landed 2 feet away. That and running the risk of injecting into the bloodstream made me give up ever injecting them again... Itīs just a pain in the ass and they still ended up only about 1 " bigger with much less detail... You might be able to enhance a muscle with SEO but you canīt create something that is not there.
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Dokey111 on March 09, 2012, 08:22:46 AM
dan lurie accuses Arnold of having calf Transplants   ???  could that be possible
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: closeline on March 09, 2012, 08:39:46 AM


if he woud have a pair of calfs he would surpass ronnie for the best BDB in history

and this is not good for the sport :o
Title: Re: Wolf's weak calves - genetics vs. training
Post by: Papper on March 09, 2012, 08:46:35 AM
wolf had decent calves at 07- implants.
check the pics and see for yourselves




awesome routine!!!  his calfs are fine there. what you have to think about is that his thighs grew but not his calfs, they rather shrunk, be it from tear or pounding them too hard for too long. too big quads looks shit

i really dont think he's "given up" or stopped training them. that would be pretty stupid