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Wanna buy a car and that's what people keeps telling me...
It that true? Opinions?
Thx guys!
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Wanna buy a car and that's what people keeps telling me...
It that true? Opinions?
Thx guys!
It's like any luxury car.. buy a couple years old, a lease return if possible, most people who lease high end cars usually take pretty good care of them. Then find a shop that specializes in those type of cars for your service needs. Don't take it to the dealer and don't follow the scheduled maintenance as it is designed to put money in the dealer/service departments pockets more so than keeping the car running.
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It's like any luxury car.. buy a couple years old, a lease return if possible, most people who lease high end cars usually take pretty good care of them. Then find a shop that specializes in those type of cars for your service needs. Don't take it to the dealer and don't follow the scheduled maintenance as it is designed to put money in the dealer/service departments pockets more so than keeping the car running.
Good info bro! Thx!
Wanna buy a 2006 one...but so much bullshit going on at the dealerships... :-\
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Good info bro! Thx!
Wanna buy a 2006 one...but so much bullshit going on at the dealerships... :-\
Yeah... hard to get a deal there. They of course have huge overhead and want every dime of possible profit. can't blame them for that, but I wouldn't help pay for their nice showroom.
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One of the major perks of leasing a bmw is that every type of maintenance is 100% covered.
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One of the major perks of leasing a bmw is that every type of maintenance is 100% covered.
Donno bro...just wanna buy one right away and own it... LOL! Not a fan of leasing...
My only concern is the is the service...and for a 2006 car the extended warranty can be expensive too I guess...
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Donno bro...just wanna buy one right away and own it... LOL! Not a fan of leasing...
My only concern is the is the service...and for a 2006 car the extended warranty can be expensive too I guess...
You wanna get ahead forget about nice cars and get a Kia.
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You wanna get ahead forget about nice cars and get a Kia.
LOL! No way!
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everyone wants to drive expensive cars, but don't wanna pay heavy ass service
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everyone wants to drive expensive cars, but don't wanna pay heavy ass service
Yes...but the question is...because of this...should I buy American car...? ???
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everyone wants to drive expensive cars, but don't wanna pay heavy ass service
I do it though!
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"everybody wanna buy expensive cars but nobody wanna pay maintainance bills!!"
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Yes...but the question is...because of this...should I buy American car...? ???
Any German car out of warranty is prone to issues mainly electrical of all sorts. Usually BMW cars like 328i are pretty good but the turbo cars like 335s have fuel pump issues and failures. Either way it's going to cost you. I don't understand why don't you just get something reliable like a Japanese car until you have decent income to buy luxury. Of course in America you just want to live the dream ::)
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Yes...but the question is...because of this...should I buy American car...? ???
if you wanna go german.. buy a mercedes. bmw is for people who can afford it and afford the service. you're basically buying a powerful, luxurious, and tech advanced car that has a reliability of 0%. the only people i know who are happy with their bmw's are those with drivers to take it to the dealership every month to fix shit that went wrong with it (mind you, we're talking 2011&2012 models) and have enough money to buy 10 other cars.
luxury/high class car means you can afford it. and if anything, it reflects status... it's not reliable at all. it's for the rich, my friend.
a smart person would choose something very reliable, looks great, low maintenance, and low MPG. basically a japanese sedan. you wanna get from point A to point B without any problems and not look like you live on wellfare... what you're trying to do is go on a world of suffering (financially) with that car. let alone it's a 2006... cars pre-2000 lasted 10+ years... post 2000, you're lucky if they last 5... 8 tops. after that, it's taking it to the shop every 2-3 months.
be smart bro... don't be shallow.
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It's like any luxury car.. buy a couple years old, a lease return if possible, most people who lease high end cars usually take pretty good care of them. Then find a shop that specializes in those type of cars for your service needs. Don't take it to the dealer and don't follow the scheduled maintenance as it is designed to put money in the dealer/service departments pockets more so than keeping the car running.
Actually no and bmw's aren't really high end and lease cars can be some of the worse cause they don't have to do shit due to the maintainence program and stupid oil change that BMW recommends, something like 10/15k oil change ::) I personally know people who trash the shit out of lease cars and they were Mercedes and bmw's
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These cars require preventative maintenance to keep them in top running order ie, upper lower control arm bushings every 4-5 years, radiator/water pump/expansion tank replacement at 90k or sooner, brake flush (2yr) transmission fluid change every 30k etc. BMW v8's are prone to oil leakage at the valve cover gaskets, upper timing chain cover and vanos gaskets area.
As for extended warranties, your buying a 6yr old vehicle so I'd look for a car that's CPO at dealers lot and damn sure wouldn't buy one w/o having a PPI-PRE PURCHASE INSPECTION which costs 100-300 from independent BMW mechanic.
www.bimrs.org is a site that lists BMW independent shops should you chose to purchase and not get raped by having the car serviced by the stealer er dealer that is.
Just my h/o after 25yrs owning BMW's and have seen my share of bs.
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Wanna buy a car and that's what people keeps telling me...
It that true? Opinions?
Thx guys!
Hahahah, you should buy a bicycle, you're poor.
Of a small Honda.
BMWs is for people with money.
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LOL! No way!
Have fun personal training when you are 60 then dude...
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Wanna buy a car and that's what people keeps telling me...
It that true? Opinions?
Thx guys!
Ask Parker on here; he's the authority in this area.
I've only known a couple of people who own BMW's, but they all say the same things: the cars don't match the reputation they had years ago, and the parts AND service are quite expensive.
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I had a 328I for around 3 years. I loved that car, and never had any problems with it either. I think some people really have lead feet.
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Beemers, Mercedes, and Audi are cars for people who have money who like to throw away their money. Here in South Florida, no one looks at you twice if you own one of these cars anyways.
Wait for the 2013 Chevy Cruze. It will get upwards of 50 MPG and comes with a Diesel engine ;D
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Wanna buy a car and that's what people keeps telling me...
It that true? Opinions?
Thx guys!
Volvo
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Good info bro! Thx!
Wanna buy a 2006 one...but so much bullshit going on at the dealerships... :-\
That's exactly what i did. I bought a 2006 LExus GS. Got it for less than half the price when new. Also was a very low mileage car. I bought extended warranty but in general, i never go to the dealer to do work. BMs are known for being very expensive for parts/service. The 7 series in particular has the worst reputation for reliability and electrical problems. I'd rather look at the E class than 5 series - though the new 5 series looks like Beemers got back to form.
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toyota very good cars
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Bullshit, BMW's aren't expensive to maintain but they are if you are some homo making 35K a year trying to look rich.
Cut the bullshit and buy the 7 series, none of this 3 series "I make 30K but I want everyone to THINK I'm rich so I buy a 3 series and remove the emblems to try to fool people".
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Good info bro! Thx!
Wanna buy a 2006 one...but so much bullshit going on at the dealerships... :-\
Why a 2006 BMW? You are rolling the dice on that right there. Last yr of the E46 3 series, the 7 series (E63?) was having serious problems, and the ugly E60 5 series just started (I believe).
That's like going into Mr. O against Phil Heath, Ronnie, Dorian, Lee Haney, Flex, Shawn, Dennis Newman, Chris Cormier, Nasser, Kevin, Dex, Vic, and expecting to get first place.
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I've had a 525i and now drive the 650i. My wife has had a 330i and now drives a 328xi. We've never had a problem with any of them and will never own anything else (except for my Jeep Wrangler). Just lucky I guess.
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Bullshit, BMW's aren't expensive to maintain but they are if you are some homo making 35K a year trying to look rich.
Cut the bullshit and buy the 7 series, none of this 3 series "I make 30K but I want everyone to THINK I'm rich so I buy a 3 series and remove the emblems to try to fool people".
Njflex, is a former BMW tech, he can tell you the problems.
BMW has the 4 yr free maintenance for a reason. BMW is notorious for introducing new tech in the 7 series and using the customers as guinea pigs...
Then you have engine issues---like con rod issues, and systems related like HFPF issues...the newer turbo engined cars like the 335i, 550i, 650i, etc chances are will have turbo relates issues,as this is a new frontier for BMW, they are not used to making mass production turbo cars, like Mercedes and Audi, who have basically perfected it.
3 series is BMW bread and butter car, the leade of a segment for a reason, and most people making 30k can't afford one now.
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Problems with the Ford Steve? I had a BMW 325i for 7 years then crashed it out I loved it. Now what I found with the BMW's are the engine/drive train are superb but I had to constantly replace bulbs, window problems on all four, etc. accessories suck on them and maintenance is out da roof unless you do it yourself.
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Why a 2006 BMW? You are rolling the dice on that right there. Last yr of the E46 3 series, the 7 series (E63?) was having serious problems, and the ugly E60 5 series just started (I believe).
That's like going into Mr. O against Phil Heath, Ronnie, Dorian, Lee Haney, Flex, Shawn, Dennis Newman, Chris Cormier, Nasser, Kevin, Dex, Vic, and expecting to get first place.
true,,,2007 was the e90 intro with twin turbo's 335,328 massive recall on fuel pump issues,lifters,cyl heads,e60 was introduced 2004 i have 04 edition has same engine as e39 thank god and it is cheaper and easier to maintain,',ugly' i like the lines tho parker/gangsta originally 525 with 16 inch base rims looked funny too much body for wheels esp rear end but i have 530 with sportier wheels and it looks nice ,i am biased,,the f1 series 7 and 5 are good looking car's ,,,,i would stay away from any 7 series built 02 through 08 even if given free.
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my dad bought at new X5 in 2005 and to this day has never had a problem with it
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my dad bought at new X5 in 2005 and to this day has never had a problem with it
he's lucky,,bulb issues a plenty,rear tail light housing melt,window and central lock issues were big defects there...
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The key is narrowing your search to 1-2 cars that you might like and then research, research, research. Google search some forums, every german car brand has a lot of good forums with excellent info on problems and different issues as well as fixes.
Just picked up a 2002 Porsche 911 C2 (will be driving home with it in 2 hours from West Palm Beach to Chicago)
First time driving it...I have decided never to drive anything else. This vehicle is incredible...very hard to describe to joy of rowing through the gears and getting unto 120mph like it's nothing.
This car has a binder full of records from tire and oil changes to spark plugs and belts being replaced. I know exactly what problems this vehicle is prone to and I bought the best possible car that I could find that has been maintained very well. I didn't get lucky finding this car, I did lots of homework.
DO NOT go to the dealer and buy any vehicle. You can find cars for thousands less on cars.com and autotrader.com Private party sales are way easier to do.
Everyone makes a big deal on German car maintenance. These issues usually happen to the big motors that make a lot of power (AMG, M, Turbos)
My girlfriend owns a c230 Benz, my buddy owns a 2000 Porsche 911, pop owns 2006 ML350.... no real issues on these vehicles.
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The key is narrowing your search to 1-2 cars that you might like and then research, research, research. Google search some forums, every german car brand has a lot of good forums with excellent info on problems and different issues as well as fixes.
Just picked up a 2002 Porsche 911 C2 (will be driving home with it in 2 hours from West Palm Beach to Chicago)
First time driving it...I have decided never to drive anything else. This vehicle is incredible...very hard to describe to joy of rowing through the gears and getting unto 120mph like it's nothing.
This car has a binder full of records from tire and oil changes to spark plugs and belts being replaced. I know exactly what problems this vehicle is prone to and I bought the best possible car that I could find that has been maintained very well. I didn't get lucky finding this car, I did lots of homework.
DO NOT go to the dealer and buy any vehicle. You can find cars for thousands less on cars.com and autotrader.com Private party sales are way easier to do.
Everyone makes a big deal on German car maintenance. These issues usually happen to the big motors that make a lot of power (AMG, M, Turbos)
My girlfriend owns a c230 Benz, my buddy owns a 2000 Porsche 911, pop owns 2006 ML350.... no real issues on these vehicles.
nice car,,,be careful with porsche rear main seal and intermediate shaft ,,if untreated you will be buying an engine.plugs should be done every 20 to 30 thousand,the old water cooled 911's were best.
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Assuming you're buying a 2006 BMW, it will be out of warranty. Extended warranty is expensive...might as well take that cash and buy a newer vehicle with factory warranty remaining.
Also find some good independent (non dealership) mechanic shops in your area. If you pay cash these places usually give you a discount. Develop a relationship with these guys and they will take care of you IF you need major repairs.
Like I said, since you're probably buying a 2006 3 series, you shouldn't have much problems if you do homework on the vehicle. (seeing service records, getting pre purchase inspection, ...etc)
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nice car,,,be careful with porsche rear main seal and intermediate shaft ,,if untreated you will be buying an engine.plugs should be done every 20 to 30 thousand,the old water cooled 911's were best.
This car had the RMS done, has new spark plugs, alternator & battery, water pump, new tires (3,000 miles on them), new brakes, H&R springs.
I think I will install the IMS guardian. It's a sensor that detects metal in the oil sump ...happens when the IMS fails.
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he's lucky,,bulb issues a plenty,rear tail light housing melt,window and central lock issues were big defects there...
Spot on.
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You should check out cars at the car auctions. They have many types of cars and you can get a good deal. For example I got 2006 Ford Crown Victoria for $2700. That's a damn good deal.
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New cars are not as durable as the old ones.
Plus the new bmw's have aluminium chassis/suspension parts thar bent with normal usage. After 60000 miles or so they need to be replaced otherwise you can't get an alingnement. And those aluminium suspension arms don't come cheap at all. Even the recent bmw air-filters look like they were developed by NASA.
From a mechanic point of view those cars are very easy to work on. In other car brands one have to tear the fender and headlights apart to change the distribution belt/bearings.
Good luck with the deal,
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Good info bro! Thx!
Wanna buy a 2006 one...but so much bullshit going on at the dealerships... :-\
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They ship to all 50 States
They have some very nice bmw's with existing warranties ...
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These cars require preventative maintenance to keep them in top running order ie, upper lower control arm bushings every 4-5 years, radiator/water pump/expansion tank replacement at 90k or sooner, brake flush (2yr) transmission fluid change every 30k etc. BMW v8's are prone to oil leakage at the valve cover gaskets, upper timing chain cover and vanos gaskets area.
As for extended warranties, your buying a 6yr old vehicle so I'd look for a car that's CPO at dealers lot and damn sure wouldn't buy one w/o having a PPI-PRE PURCHASE INSPECTION which costs 100-300 from independent BMW mechanic.
www.bimrs.org is a site that lists BMW independent shops should you chose to purchase and not get raped by having the car serviced by the stealer er dealer that is.
Just my h/o after 25yrs owning BMW's and have seen my share of bs.
I have heard from so many BMW owners that they aren't that reliable and cost a lot to maintain. It seems you could buy an ordinary Camry or an Accord and drive it 200k and have no major repairs. Just change the oil, filters, brakes and tires. Typical ordinary maintenance stuff. Of course there are exceptions. A BMW at 80K will have a ton of repairs and it's called a quality car?
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Then again, if you want luxury, just buy a US-made luxury truck or SUV. A used Escalade, Hummer, Denali, Suburban, or Tahoe can all be had for rather cheap....and they all share parts and are relatively easy and cheap to maintain. If gas is your concern, than you shouldn't even be in the market for something like a BMW anyway.
If you want straight-line performance(the ONLY kind of performance because wanting something good for twisties makes no fuckin sense here in the states) than you buy an American car like a SRT8 300C or Charger. These motors, along with Ford's new 5.0 and GM's LSX series can easily put out well over 600WHP with not a ton of modifications. High-dollar Euro cars get raped at the track and on the highway all night long.
If you just want a car that'll last as long as possible while giving you some sort of comfortable luxury, than just buy a newer Toyota Camry. Or, if you are feeling very old, a Lincoln Town Car. The Lincoln, along with its brothers the Grand Marquis and the Crown Vic, are the last car ever made with a body on frame build. There is a reason why the Panther platform serve as police cars and in the livery service....they last longer than anything else and can get the shit kicked out of 'em.
In terms of performance, price, and reliability, none of the big Euro cars are near the top. If you like to spend a lot of money at the dealership, push a lot of different buttons that you have no need of whatsover, ride in a car that feels like a plushy couch at high speeds(ok, that does feel cool), attempt to impress people you do not know or will ever know, than a BMW, Mercedes, or Audi is for you.
DISCLAIMER: I came damned close to buying a BMW 530i....the ride and interior are a cut above everything else. I do see the appeal, though.
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i had a black/black leather e34 for a bit in college, crashed it into trees, car was fully repaired except one problem that could not be repaired by any German mechanic within ~50 miles. Engine would cut out after letting off the break. Maybe an airflow issue but nobody could figure it out for me. Sad, got rid of her for much less than I put in her
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A 6 year old used BMW? Reliability: No. Status: No.
Is it free or something?
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Bullshit, BMW's aren't expensive to maintain but they are if you are some homo making 35K a year trying to look rich.
Cut the bullshit and buy the 7 series, none of this 3 series "I make 30K but I want everyone to THINK I'm rich so I buy a 3 series and remove the emblems to try to fool people".
what are you talking about? people buy the 3 series coupe for its lines not its price tag. i have one. i could have bought a 7, 5, 6 but i got the 3 coupe cause imo there is no other car with better lines on the road, apart from the cls which i like too.
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I have heard from so many BMW owners that they aren't that reliable and cost a lot to maintain. It seems you could buy an ordinary Camry or an Accord and drive it 200k and have no major repairs. Just change the oil, filters, brakes and tires. Typical ordinary maintenance stuff. Of course there are exceptions. A BMW at 80K will have a ton of repairs and it's called a quality car?
i own a 2009 awd coupe. it has 86k on it now. the thing has been bulletproof. not a squeak drafty seal or knock in the car. runs as well as the day i drove it off the lot. i cannot say enough about the level of qaulity and craftsmanship in the car.
this is how confident i am in the vehicle- after talking to njflex, i decided to not get a 3yr/60k extended warranty once i hit 80k. it was only going to cost me $3000. its not a money issue for me- i have such faith in the vehicle that the 3k im saving by not getting that warranty will more than cover any wear and tear expenses such as brakes and tires.
id recommend one to anyone. i think a lot of the bad shit you haer about them is just repeated by what is read online and not thru anyones personal experiences, as i have yet to meet a bm owner who says bm is shit.
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Wow guys!!! Tons of quality information in this thread! Thank u so much I really appreciate it!
Well, I don't know yet...
I was thinking about a 745-750Li, Cadillac SRX...but they are sooo different...I like the BMW better tho.
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I'll answer the PMs too, thank u so much again!!! ;)
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i had a black/black leather e34 for a bit in college, crashed it into trees, car was fully repaired except one problem that could not be repaired by any German mechanic within ~50 miles. Engine would cut out after letting off the break. Maybe an airflow issue but nobody could figure it out for me. Sad, got rid of her for much less than I put in her
Nice vintage BBS wheels...
For the dude with the Porsche, I live near a Porsche/German car specialist, they seem to recommend the 964, 993, and 997s. The 996 was the bastard child, engine issues, shared interior and front nose with the Boxster. 993s still hold their value, built like a vault.
The owner drives his wife e34 M5, thing is a beast. They have a lot of rare Porsches in the shop sometimes and do specialty work---
in terms of German luxury cars, quality is like this:
Porsche>Mercedes>Audi>BMW. And you can put Mercedes in front due to certains models. When it comes to sedans, it is Merc>Audi>BMW...
Why, who knows. BMW owners are stereotyped as being assholes who drive the cars like they stole them, don't do preventive maintenance. Plus, BMW seemingly has this attitude of snobbery, their cars are fun to drive---who needs anything else? four door sports cars...
And then, there is the 4 yr/50,000 mile warranty...they seemingly think you are going to trade it in after 50k, so why invest in longevity, you want that, buy a Lexus.
That's my theory.
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Look, I am 30 years old. I have had a Pontiac Sunfire (POS car) , a Lexus ES300, a BMW 328I, and my current car is a Nissan 350Z. The only car I had problems with is the American made Sunfire. My favorite car was the BMW. It had the luxury/comfort of the Lexus, combined with just enough sportiness to compare to the 350z. It's the best of both worlds.
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Look, I am 30 years old. I have had a Pontiac Sunfire (POS car) , a Lexus ES300, a BMW 328I, and my current car is a Nissan 350Z. The only car I had problems with is the American made Sunfire. My favorite car was the BMW. It had the luxury/comfort of the Lexus, combined with just enough sportiness to compare to the 350z. It's the best of both worlds.
Have you had any front end allignment problems wit the Z? They and their G35 brother are probe to it. My co-worker has a G35, had a front end problem, and had engine issues, due to the 3.5 liter running rough, and other issues. He had the engine replaced. But he loves that car, and the exhaust note.
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Look, I am 30 years old. I have had a Pontiac Sunfire (POS car) , a Lexus ES300, a BMW 328I, and my current car is a Nissan 350Z. The only car I had problems with is the American made Sunfire. My favorite car was the BMW. It had the luxury/comfort of the Lexus, combined with just enough sportiness to compare to the 350z. It's the best of both worlds.
See, that's exactly what I was thinking...also there is huge space in the 750LI for the passengers (for example parents from Europe)...
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Have you had any front end allignment problems wit the Z? They and their G35 brother are probe to it. My co-worker has a G35, had a front end problem, and had engine issues, due to the 3.5 liter running rough, and other issues. He had the engine replaced. But he loves that car, and the exhaust note.
Nothing wrong with the z at all so far (knocks on wood) Its got 91,000 miles on it . I am pissed that the 370z looks so much better though :-[ I really want a new Challenger, but I fear I will get screwed if I go American.
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See, that's exactly what I was thinking...also there is huge space in the 750LI for the passengers (for example parents from Europe)...
Lol, a 750LI would have all the luxury/power you would ever need my friend. All I know is that the Beamer was the best car I ever had. Might go back with my next car.
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Nothing wrong with the z at all so far (knocks on wood) Its got 91,000 miles on it . I am pissed that the 370z looks so much better though :-[ I really want a new Challenger, but I fear I will get screwed if I go American.
Ha, it's like a work with you. A dude I used to work with has the Challenger---he's a big boy, so it's fits him. He says it handles like a pig (it has Mercedes chassis), but it looks BOSS! Vintage looking rims, supercharger, the thing is straight beast. I think that American cars have stepped it up in terms of quality, especially Caddy, all Ford needs to do is bring Lincoln up to spec, and you got it.
Good luck on the car, and yeah, the 370 is sexy,
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Nothing wrong with the z at all so far (knocks on wood) Its got 91,000 miles on it . I am pissed that the 370z looks so much better though :-[ I really want a new Challenger, but I fear I will get screwed if I go American.
Challengers are assembled in Ontario. The 5.7 hemi engine is built in Mexico. Chyrsler(Dodge) is majority owned by an Italian company(Fiat). There is not much American about it. If you do buy one, get the new 6.4L 392 Hemi. Those are iron blocks that are putting out a ton of power. Not cheap though, although a Challenger is nothing more than a Dodge Charger with a 4 inch shorter wheelbase. Remember, though, many LEO agencies are using the Charger as their police cruisers, so there is at least something going for it in durability.
But...if you want an actual performance car that can be made to go fast, then an American car is the only choice that you can make.
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Challengers are assembled in Ontario. The 5.7 hemi engine is built in Mexico. Chyrsler(Dodge) is majority owned by an Italian company(Fiat). There is not much American about it. If you do buy one, get the new 6.4L 392 Hemi. Those are iron blocks that are putting out a ton of power. Not cheap though, although a Challenger is nothing more than a Dodge Charger with a 4 inch shorter wheelbase. Remember, though, many LEO agencies are using the Charger as their police cruisers, so there is at least something going for it in durability.
But...if you want an actual performance car that can be made to go fast, then an American car is the only choice that you can make.
I don't get this last sentence. You can argue that foreign cars are made for performance/speed. If you are talking about muscle cars, then American is the way to go. You can customize any car to make it go faster.
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Wanna buy a car and that's what people keeps telling me...
It that true? Opinions?
Thx guys!
honestly, the BMW styling is just plain bland these...Hyundai have ripped off the style to the point that Hyundais look better these days. Unless you get the M6 then don't even bother.
Get a Smart Car...based on your height you will still have plenty of room left over.
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mazda nissan both make sports cars that would be more reliable.
unless you're just trying to look rich, then you're just a dumbass
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honestly, the BMW styling is just plain bland these...Hyundai have ripped off the style to the point that Hyundais look better these days. Unless you get the M6 then don't even bother.
Get a Smart Car...based on your height you will still have plenty of room left over.
Hyundai/Kia goes thru eveybody's "greatest hits" catalog and rips off the design. The current Sonata---part Lexus ES/part Mecedes CLS/part VW Passat CC. The Kia Forte---Honda Civic, the Genesis coupe---Infiniti G37 with a melted face. The Genesis Sedan-old Mercedes Front, Lexus GS side, BMW tail-lights, Lexus exhaust tips. The Equus---Lexus LS and Mercedes S class front.
Iif you have ever noticed that the Asian manufacturers have a habit of blatantly copying Euro and American designs. The Japanese, Koreans, and now the Chinese. Cars designed by Japanese car companies either look bland, weird, out of proportion, or like Pokemon faces, or cutesy. And they have such a great history when it comes to art---form and function---I've always wondered why they never delve into that.
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mazda nissan both make sports cars that would be more reliable.
unless you're just trying to look rich, then you're just a dumbass
But I don't want a sport car right now... I'll buy a Dodge Viper or something then...
I just want a very nice car which is still powerful at the same time.
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How about a Jaguar XJ?
Luxury and speed
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Steve I have been driving BMW for many years. I get the 5 series all the time. I keep them for3- 4 years, and then trade them in for a new one. I have never spent a dime on any of my BMW''s to maintain it is all covered for 4 years or 50K miles.
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Wow guys!!! Tons of quality information in this thread! Thank u so much I really appreciate it!
Well, I don't know yet...
I was thinking about a 745-750Li, Cadillac SRX...but they are sooo different...I like the BMW better tho.
HAHAHAHA a 7 series??!!! Nothing but troubles and headaches, I thought at least a 3 ::)
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try carmax.com, i've heard they have good prices and lots of inventory. get a bmw with low miles if possible. 3 series is good for little people like you. hope this helps
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You should check out cars at the car auctions. They have many types of cars and you can get a good deal. For example I got 2006 Ford Crown Victoria for $2700. That's a damn good deal.
A crown vic?? What are you, black??
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A crown vic?? What are you, black??
2006 crown vic ? maybe he's an afghan refugee cab driver independent operator Lol
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Parker,
Go drive the new 13 GS350. I recently did, a f-sport version. Damn good car, better handling than the numb steering in the new 5's and e350 mb. :o a complete different car, don't feel like old Lexus, the tech from the LFA is dwindling down to the others. Overall better car than both Mercedes and BMW.
What I hate about new bimmers and Porsche is that stupid electric steering. Steering is lighter, more for fuel efficient and feel isn't the same, which bmw's are known for. As far as cars go bimmers aren't the same anymore, they are bigger, softer, and not as hardcore as it once was. More likely to please the masses. They are turning into the old Lexus, lol. The M5, and M3 is what you want to buy if you want old BMW performance..... Kind of...
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my last advice here is for steve to definitley consider not going near a 7 series especially mid to late 2000's ,,model yrs 09/10 before it flipped to f1 series were better but still,,,,,
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I wouldn't buy one unless you can afford an M3.
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Thank so much all the information here and in PMs!!! I really appreciate it!!!
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I wouldn't buy one unless you can afford an M3.
Yes I can...a 2006 one for example... But even tho I don't like that car at all...please explain me why is that better than a 2006 750...? ???
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A crown vic?? What are you, black??
It was a police car. It is white and it's big. Man it has lots of power. You gotta' admit $2700 for a car that's been driven 80,000 and is made in 2006 is a good deal.
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^^^Does everyone slow down when they see you on the highway? ;D
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^^^Does everyone slow down when they see you on the highway? ;D
That's the problem with those Crown Vic police cruisers---some still have the spotlights on them, and people drive and slow down...
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Why don't Steve go for an S class Mercedes. Lemme guess, he can't afford it. Those 2002's 7 series are a POS even up to 2006 like others say. There is a reason why they are so dirt cheap and I see a bunch of ghetto hood rats buying them up. Hahaha idiots only knew, in and out of the shop more times than the cocks that's been in bootys ass.
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Just get a used certified lexus and be done with it. Lexus are built like tanks and dont need $1000 repair every 10k miles like Eurotrash cars do ( bmw ,,,audii, all that euro filtth ::) )
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BMW is just a status symbol. not something i care about. i'd rather get a Nissan GTR, though, that is a real expensive car to maintain.
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Why don't Steve go for an S class Mercedes. Lemme guess, he can't afford it. Those 2002's 7 series are a POS even up to 2006 like others say. There is a reason why they are so dirt cheap and I see a bunch of ghetto hood rats buying them up. Hahaha idiots only knew, in and out of the shop more times than the cocks that's been in bootys ass.
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I'm thinking about a 2006 model...
750Li and S500 from 2006 are about the same price... I just don't really like the Mercedes. Like the SL tho.
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I'm thinking about a 2006 model...
750Li and S500 from 2006 are about the same price... I just don't really like the Mercedes. Like the SL tho.
The 7 series was always been plagued with problems, I believe someone already said it, the last couple of years of 08/09 was the best in reliability compared to the earlier generation. These cars are time bombs I like how some come in here talking how good the 3 or 5 has held up. Well the 3 is their bread and butter and the 5 is right up there. Someone with a 7 or early X5 should chime in. Bottom line u are gambling with german/euro cars, some don't have anything go wrong while others have everything fall apart that's just how it is. There's a reason why lexus does well in the US. not as engaging as the euros but chances are it'll last longer
Plus Steve a 2006 is still 6 years old, u do the math. Go for it if u think it is worth. Or just get a 528 if u want to stick with BMW
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Bankrupt in 3...2...1... ;D
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Better start Hustling up some schmoes
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I think we are all in agreement that the overall quality of BMW cars is good.
If it, however, has to be repaired, it is obviously more expensive than Toyota's etc.
My dad always said: Don't buy a used car that you couldn't afford to buy from new.
I think that is a good saying.
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OK, I got a 1929 Ford... I might gonna get an extended warranty. LOL!
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OK, I got a 1929 Ford... I might gonna get an extended warranty. LOL!
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Model T? It was once said that you could get any color you want, as long as it was black...you found a green one.
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Model T? It was once said that you could get any color you want, as long as it was black...you found a green one.
I don't give a fuck about the color...it's special bro! ;D
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OK, I got a 1929 Ford... I might gonna get an extended warranty. LOL!
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Rule #1 Steve: Do Not wear an Under Armour shirt when are going to purchase a vehicle.
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I would not buy a 7 series if I were concerned about the cost of maintenance. I think you should buy a certified pre-owned 5 series (2008-09) or Lexus has very good CPO program.
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Rule #1 Steve: Do Not wear an Under Armour shirt when are going to purchase a vehicle.
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I would not buy a 7 series if I were concerned about the cost of maintenance. I think you should buy a certified pre-owned 5 series (2008-09) or Lexus has very good CPO program.
True but 5 series are too small for me.
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True but 5 series are too small for me.
Which part of you?
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Lol, I was just looking at the photo of you sitting in the model T. You should always dress decently when buying a car.
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Middle aged men trying to keep up with the Jones's...LOL...Didn't they make a movie about these $30,000 millionaires
http://www.30kmillionaires.com/
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Which part of you?
Well, I like the bigger cars anyways...but my father in law is like 300 lbs...my mother is overweight as well... When they visiting us from Europe...we defi need space in the back.
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Lol, I was just looking at the photo of you sitting in the model T. You should always dress decently when buying a car.
Hmmm... What's ur point? U should go there in a tuxedo...looks rich as hell so they can fuck u up as hard as they can??? LOL!
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Hmmm... What's ur point? U should go there in a tuxedo...looks rich as hell so they can fuck u up as hard as they can??? LOL!
No, but Under Armour looks retarded. A simple collard shirt, and jeans would suffice.
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Nice vintage BBS wheels...
For the dude with the Porsche, I live near a Porsche/German car specialist, they seem to recommend the 964, 993, and 997s. The 996 was the bastard child, engine issues, shared interior and front nose with the Boxster. 993s still hold their value, built like a vault.
The owner drives his wife e34 M5, thing is a beast. They have a lot of rare Porsches in the shop sometimes and do specialty work---
in terms of German luxury cars, quality is like this:
Porsche>Mercedes>Audi>BMW. And you can put Mercedes in front due to certains models. When it comes to sedans, it is Merc>Audi>BMW...
Why, who knows. BMW owners are stereotyped as being assholes who drive the cars like they stole them, don't do preventive maintenance. Plus, BMW seemingly has this attitude of snobbery, their cars are fun to drive---who needs anything else? four door sports cars...
And then, there is the 4 yr/50,000 mile warranty...they seemingly think you are going to trade it in after 50k, so why invest in longevity, you want that, buy a Lexus.
That's my theory.
Exactly, Japenese cars are so much more practical.
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No, but Under Armour looks retarded. A simple collard shirt, and jeans would suffice.
Haha! Maybe the under armour looks retarded on u...like on most of the gym rats...but not on me. LOL!
Also there is NO jeans whats fit on me...seriously. And I dont wanna waste my money to make custom made like Cutler for $500...
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2006 crown vic ? maybe he's an afghan refugee cab driver independent operator Lol
lolz
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Well, I like the bigger cars anyways...but my father in law is like 300 lbs...my mother is overweight as well... When they visiting us from Europe...we defi need space in the back.
How long they visiting for?
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How long they visiting for?
Family members are coming here all the time, year round for couple of weeks each time.
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what did u get steve?
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what did u get steve?
Well I was thinking a lot, test driving so many cars (BMW, Mercedes, Infinity, Lexus, Cadillac, Audi)...but this is what we liked the best with my wife...also checked out with a Hungarian mechanic and got a pretty good deal.
2006 750 Li with CPO warranty.
I think it's gonna be OK for at least 3 years...and I love it!
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Well I was thinking a lot, test driving so many cars (Mercedes, Infinity, Lexus, Cadillac, Audi)...but this is what we liked the best with my wife...also checked out with a Hungarian mechanic and got a pretty good deal.
2006 750 Li with CPO warranty.
I think it's gonna be OK for at least 3 years...and I love it!
Nice ride Steve! You are true American! Living beyond your means ;D
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Nice ride Steve! You are true American! Living beyond your means ;D
Thanks! ;D
I'll take a pic about my 1997 Ford Thuderbird...my car for the last 3 years with no A/C (in FL), no radio, bad breaks, bad engine, bad power window, bad fan...etc... ;)
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Wanna buy a car and that's what people keeps telling me...
It that true? Opinions?
Thx guys!
Yup, and bimmers are shit, always breaking down.