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gear or no gear...how much?
i know this has been beat to death like a dead horse but whats everyone getting in?
i was at 200g+ ed ,but as of late 100-150 would be about right and really havent noticed a difference...discuss
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In before D.O.U.P ! ;D
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Fuck off.
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I used to eat only 200 or so grams of protein. I recently doubled it. I figure I spend all this money on AAS and I spend time in the gym,
I have to eat something to grow, so why not be on the safe side and make sure a lot of it is protein.
Some say you waste it, piss it out, whatever, but if I need some additional cals and my goal is muscle building, I'll eat more protein as opposed
to fats or carbs.
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In before D.O.U.P ! ;D
serious responses only
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200g every other hour.
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gear or no gear...how much?
i know this has been beat to death like a dead horse but whats everyone getting in?
i was at 200g+ ed ,but as of late 100-150 would be about right and really havent noticed a difference...discuss
eat three square meals , and couple of shakes, should be enough
morning : eggs should be the staple... so eggs and some wheat bread
Lunch: chicken salad, or steak tip salad, or anything with chicken or steak or fish being the main portion
dinner: again, chicken ,red meat or seafood should be the stable.
i personally have a scoop of protein between breakfast an lunch, and i sip on 2 scoops of protein during my workout
that should be enough
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I answered an email question sent to me on this subject. Check my topic.
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Sounds like 1000 calories. So if you want to look like a real twink listen to this guy.
::)
yes you wont look like a perma-bulker on my diet, but you'll look like this (4th post http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=372442.400)
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Sounds like 1000 calories. So if you want to look like a real twink listen to this guy.
so, if he wants to look like you then?
we've all seen your pics 'sparky'. you have little room to talk about anyone here being a twink. ahahahahaha
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What am I suppose to be seeing in those two shitty ass blurry photo's where your entire body except for one arm is covered? ??? ???
::)
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so, if he wants to look like you then?
we've all seen your pics 'sparky'. you have little room to talk about anyone here being a twink. ahahahahaha
now dont be too harsh on him, you dont want him writing a complaint to GLAD
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less bickering and back on topic ;)
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now dont be too harsh on him, you dont want him writing a complaint to GLAD
i lol'd!
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so, if he wants to look like you then?
we've all seen your pics 'sparky'. you have little room to talk about anyone here being a twink. ahahahahaha
Fucking hilarious! ;D
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less bickering and back on topic ;)
honestly dude you need to focus more on training and your diet than on 'how much steroids' to take.
once you get those first two figured out, than add the third. taking more drugs isnt going to help you until you learn the first two.
and besides thats a dumb question anyway. there is a world of difference between compounds, effects and other variables to lump them all into a mg per day ideal. id explain it to you but you wouldnt get it anyway- its about the look and size you want and using a combination of compounds to get that look over time, not taking 200mg a day of what the fuck ever, eating like shit, training like a pansy and hope to wake up looking like dennis newman one day 6 months down the road.
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In before D.O.U.P ! ;D
HAHA ;DAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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honestly dude you need to focus more on training and your diet than on 'how much steroids' to take.
once you get those first two figured out, than add the third. taking more drugs isnt going to help you until you learn the first two.
and besides thats a dumb question anyway. there is a world of difference between compounds, effects and other variables to lump them all into a mg per day ideal. id explain it to you but you wouldnt get it anyway- its about the look and size you want and using a combination of compounds to get that look over time, not taking 200mg a day of what the fuck ever, eating like shit, training like a pansy and hope to wake up looking like dennis newman one day 6 months down the road.
ahhhhhhhhh BINGO!!!!
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Says the guy who relies on drugs to look decent. If your that small on drugs I'd love to see what you would look like as a natural.
listen, daisy- its doesnt matter what id look like as a natural, because i am not. what matters is that i look like a god compared to you.
hth.
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honestly dude you need to focus more on training and your diet than on 'how much steroids' to take.
once you get those first two figured out, than add the third. taking more drugs isnt going to help you until you learn the first two.
and besides thats a dumb question anyway. there is a world of difference between compounds, effects and other variables to lump them all into a mg per day ideal. id explain it to you but you wouldnt get it anyway- its about the look and size you want and using a combination of compounds to get that look over time, not taking 200mg a day of what the fuck ever, eating like shit, training like a pansy and hope to wake up looking like dennis newman one day 6 months down the road.
this thread is about protein not steroids....
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this thread is about protein not steroids....
my bad- if you look at you original post it makes it wound like your asking how much gear to take a day, not protein. regardless my opinion is still valid and stands. :D
gear or no gear...how much?
i know this has been beat to death like a dead horse but whats everyone getting in?
i was at 200g+ ed ,but as of late 100-150 would be about right and really havent noticed a difference...discuss
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listen, daisy- its doesnt matter what id look like as a natural, because i am not. what matters is that i look like a god compared to you.
hth.
I got tears running down my face from laughing so hard! ;D
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Livin' the dream. Sticking needles in your ass, barely breaking 200lbs and spending his days talking big on a message board, oh brother ::)
Go 6 months clean and post your pics at 165lbs and then talk. :-* Do you arms even break 17inches atm? lolol
yeah i am living the dream.
im out banging broads that push you out of the way to come talk to me in the club.
girls look at me and get wet. they look at you and laugh. im happy for you that your a 'natural' though. :D
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my bad- if you look at you original post it makes it wound like your asking how much gear to take a day, not protein. regardless my opinion is still valid and stands. :D
lol yes you can have your opinion.
i probably use the least amount of gear of anyone on here, besides the so called "nattys" of course ::)
its just the more and more i read into it..protein is very overrated, now im not saying 20g is enough lol but 150 should be plenty i would think. after all overall calories+training+rest+drugs=bigger better you :D
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lol yes you can have your opinion.
i probably use the least amount of gear of anyone on here, besides the so called "nattys" of course ::)
its just the more and more i read into it..protein is very overrated, now im not saying 20g is enough lol but 150 should be plenty i would think. after all overall calories+training+rest+drugs=bigger better you :D
thats your problem right there. PROTEIN isnt overrated, it just that you have been told to eat every 2 fucking hours and include at least 40grams of protein per meal you eat ::)
IMO, eating 3 square meals, 2 shakes, and small snakcs here and there are OK... of course thats for the typical juicer/ gym rat
if your taking 40ius of GH, and are on 4+ grams of compounds a week, then you will eat more, why? its because someone who takes tht much stuff is in it to get big ( not necesarily fat-free big, but they just wanna get big and worry about cutting later)...
so for the normal fella, i think 3 square meals and 2 shakes should suffice
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::)
weak
truth hurts
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I got tears running down my face from laughing so hard! ;D
this kids a mess.
'oh yeah- well you might get hot chicks and i have to bang my first cousin cause im a 150 pounds and fat, but you'd probably look like shit if you were natural. so there.'
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thats your problem right there. PROTEIN isnt overrated, it just that you have been told to eat every 2 fucking hours and include at least 40grams of protein per meal you eat ::)
IMO, eating 3 square meals, 2 shakes, and small snakcs here and there are OK... of course thats for the typical juicer/ gym rat
if your taking 40ius of GH, and are on 4+ grams of compounds a week, then you will eat more, why? its because someone who takes tht much stuff is in it to get big ( not necesarily fat-free big, but they just wanna get big and worry about cutting later)...
so for the normal fella, i think 3 square meals and 2 shakes should suffice
maybe i should of worded it better...protein INTAKE is overrated lol
and thats about what i get a day...2-3 meals, a couple snacks and 1-2 shakes as of late
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weak
aww whats wrong, rose?
nothing to say? strike a nerve? dont worry- your in luck- theres lots of fat ugly drunk chicks for you to prematurely ejaculate into who im sure would tolerate you salivating in a sloppy manner all over them due to the fact they probably get laid less than you do.
we all have our roles in life. i bang hot chicks. im that guy. your 'the filler'- the guys who end up banging what ever is left. dont sell yourself short dude- you play an important role in life.
i applaud your commitment to excellence, sir.
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If you want to learn, read my topic.
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lmao little touchy over the fact you can barely break 200lbs with the use of drugs, eh? ;D
Maybe the resident 50 year old creep wes will quote your post and tell you how funny he thinks you are. :-X
listen penelope- the only one who cares that your natural is you. think society cares? lol no. think girls care that you are? no. i sure dont care.
all that matters in life is how you look, sport. get that thru your thick skull. thats how society judges you- on appearance. sad but true. thats how you get laid- on appearance, sad but true. thats how you get offered up for promotion- on appearance, sad but true. its a sad reflectiojn of society but its true.
so while your on the sidelines of life wishing you were in the game just keep telling yourself your happy about 'being natural' while looking like a bag of shit. it might make being a failure easier to swallow.
the only person you are fooling is yourself.
you are dismissed.
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listen penelope- the only one who cares that your natural is you. think society cares? lol no. think girls care that you are? no. i sure dont care.
all that matters in life is how you look, sport. get that thru your thick skull. thats how society judges you- on appearance. sad but true. thats how you get laid- on appearance, sad but true. thats how you get offered up for promotion- on appearance, sad but true. its a sad reflectiojn of society but its true.
so while your on the sidelines of life wishing you were in the game just keep telling yourself your happy about 'being natural' while looking like a bag of shit. it might make being a failure easier to swallow.
the only person you are fooling is yourself.
you are dismissed.
OUCH !
That`s gonna` leave a mark! LOL ;D
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Carbs to grow. Higher protein helps with diet. Protein doe not need to be no where near what the mainstream thinks to grow in size. 1.5grm per kilo (2.2lb) and plenty of carbs. When you want to strip/lean out reduce the carbs, up the protein. Very difficult to overeat on lean proteins like fish, chicken, turkey and eggs so long as the rest of your diet is clean.
Once you throw in heavyier doses of tren and mast, aslong as you dont eat like a pig you will strip fat no matter what.
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Agreed here,appearence is important these days.Even if not admitted official.
And for sure nobody gives a crap how you manage to stay and look fantastic.You think that whore you hang in a club or any woman that is physical attracted to you gives a crap?What do you think they think when they see you?Oh,this one is hormonized,must take at least 5 iu and 1 gram of AAS to look like this?NO.They want your cock,they do not start questioning how the fuck you obtained your physique,only if they marry you or serious relationship...
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Protein intake IS NOT overated especially when you are on gear. AAS and HGH induce faster and more protein synthesis. I'm not going to get into an argument with anyone on here about how many meals a day is best because some meal structures work for some and others for others. Protein is needed. AT LEAST a gram per pound and that's not just bro science. It's not difficult to get that amount in.
I get in on average 350-425 grams per day.
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Protein intake IS NOT overated especially when you are on gear. AAS and HGH induce faster and more protein synthesis. I'm not going to get into an argument with anyone on here about how many meals a day is best because some meal structures work for some and others for others. Protein is needed. AT LEAST a gram per pound and that's not just bro science. It's not difficult to get that amount in.
I get in on average 350-425 grams per day.
for the the op I think 200-250grams is a good guess. 150 is a little on the low side imo. High protein doesn't only make you bigger it can keep your carbs and fat lower thus helping you to stay leaner .
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thats your problem right there. PROTEIN isnt overrated, it just that you have been told to eat every 2 fucking hours and include at least 40grams of protein per meal you eat ::)
IMO, eating 3 square meals, 2 shakes, and small snakcs here and there are OK... of course thats for the typical juicer/ gym rat
if your taking 40ius of GH, and are on 4+ grams of compounds a week, then you will eat more, why? its because someone who takes tht much stuff is in it to get big ( not necesarily fat-free big, but they just wanna get big and worry about cutting later)...
so for the normal fella, i think 3 square meals and 2 shakes should suffice
bro your all over over the place
your talking about 5 meals per day (breakfast, lunch, dinner, plus 2 shakes )
thats pretty much every 2-3 hours depending on how long you wait to eat after waking up, before going to bed, and how long your awake during the day.
for 99% of bodybuilders 99% of the time 2-3 meals per day is all they need, even on huge doses of drugs and trying to get as big as possible.
the only time anybody ever "needs" to eat 4,5, or 6 meals per day is during contest prep and even that is debatable.
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1.5 grams to every 1 pound of bodyweight. You can thank me when you are a world champion.
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5 grams per pound of bodyweight will make up for steroids.
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lyle mcdonald did extensive research on this topic in his 'protein' book. he has tons of scientific research references so the numbers are not pulled out of thin air.
for naturals when trying to add muscle mass 1g/lb of bodyweight a day.
for naturals when trying to shed fat and preserve muscle 1.3-1.5 g/lb of bodyweight a day.
going above 1.5g/day is not only a waste but also might be counterproductive according to some studies.
for roid users there is not enough research done.
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lyle mcdonald did extensive research on this topic in his 'protein' book. he has tons of scientific research references so the numbers are not pulled out of thin air.
for naturals when trying to add muscle mass 1g/lb of bodyweight a day.
for naturals when trying to shed fat and preserve muscle 1.3-1.5 g/lb of bodyweight a day.
going above 1.5g/day is not only a waste but also might be counterproductive according to some studies.
for roid users there is not enough research done.
I agree 100% you have to go lean bodyweight so that gives dfresh 200-250. 150 is on the brink of being a little low.
lyle mcdonald god of protein approved lol also
ronald mcdonald top seller of protein approved
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I dieting on 110-130g prot ed, and i will still grow more if om upping my steroids again... Easy explained hormones = possible muscle mass, kcal = weight, differ from person to person...
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1.5 grams to every 1 pound of bodyweight. You can thank me when you are a world champion.
Thank you kind sir ;D
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just my personal opinion... Danny paddilla did look better than many of the bodybuilders nowdays, he used a low protein diet for his contests...
A copy past from his intervju...
Has anyone ever heard of this or tried it? Minimal protein and maximum carbs is a strategy that I have not heard much about.
Q: What training methods did you use at the time? Also, describe your pre-contest diet at this time.
A: Each body part was trained twice a week. The push-pull system was used the last 10 weeks before the show, three times a week. I went against the rule of low carbs and stayed on 80 grams of protein and consumed all the carbs that I needed (mostly fruits, veggies, brown rice and yogurt). At that point I did not worry about calories. I also jogged three days a week, 5 miles per run. In the last two weeks prior to the show I counted calories: On the first week I took in 1500 calories and on the last week, 1000. Mind you, during the last ten days prior to the show I was too weak to lift weights or do aerobics. I basically worked in the store with my dad and rested as much as I could. The Monday before the contest I weighed exactly 157. On Wednesday I began to double my calories and double my carbs until Saturday..
We also have mike mentzer, franco and even arnold did write in one of his book that he did use 200g prot ED but he found out later that it was way to much.... cant remember the book thou... i was also myself able to have 50,5 cm arms with not to much BF at a age of 20 years old eating only between 80-130g perday thru the summer months.. offcourse 2 grams off supplements and a little hgh did help..
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This is the best of them:
http://proteinofthegods.com.au/mymagento/whey-protein-isolate.html
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I dieting on 110-130g prot ed, and i will still grow more if om upping my steroids again... Easy explained hormones = possible muscle mass, kcal = weight, differ from person to person...
you are proof lol!
see im not the only one who thinks excess protein is not needed haha ;D