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Title: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: bradistani on April 01, 2012, 10:51:22 AM
i like watching this guys vids. intense and strong mofo  8)

Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: hardgainerj on April 01, 2012, 10:53:02 AM
he would be in the olympic team and not CF
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Megalodon on April 01, 2012, 10:59:30 AM
Why do these crossfit nonsense have to foul up the standard 45 lb Olympic plates with their 45lb-looking, yet sub-45-lb ...15,16/whatever-number plates on each side, totalling 300 lbs. or whatever.

You could have 125 plates on each side, each totaling .05 pounds, and it still wouldn't be as impressive as three 45 lb. plates on each side...adding up to 315.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: cross-of-iron on April 01, 2012, 11:06:38 AM
Can any of these people do a proper clean?
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: bradistani on April 01, 2012, 11:53:11 AM
Can any of these people do a proper clean?

saw no problems with that  ???
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: TooMuchMuscle4U on April 01, 2012, 11:54:52 AM
saw no problems with that  ???

no?

he kicks his feet out on the uprise  ::) ::) ::)

he needs to lower the weight




substantiALLY
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Grape Ape on April 01, 2012, 11:57:00 AM
Strong.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: beverast on April 01, 2012, 11:59:46 AM
Nice powercurls
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: _bruce_ on April 01, 2012, 12:21:50 PM
What a shit technique - is he trying to test how much Obsamos health care contributes to a titanium spine?
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on April 01, 2012, 12:27:42 PM
oh brother, where to start!!!! epic "highschool" cleaning form, brutal pressed out ugly jerks and not to mention the savage use of 8 10 pound plates a side so at least it looks heavy. WHAT A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 12:33:19 PM
saw no problems with that  ???

Fucking horrible technique. Not one of those should have counted. Going beyond 3-5 reps is max. Trying to do 30 is utterly retarded.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on April 01, 2012, 12:35:04 PM
Seriously people who lift like these crossfit cumdumpsters make me nauseous. Rather do a beautiful 120kg lift than a SHIT 140kg lift.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: bradistani on April 01, 2012, 12:35:16 PM
no?

he kicks his feet out on the uprise  ::) ::) ::)

he needs to lower the weight




substantiALLY

well yeh... it some kind of sumo shit.

he has goosd form and from chest to overhead he makes look like a piece of piss..

hes a strong bastard for sure
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on April 01, 2012, 12:36:00 PM
Ofcourse they weren't 30 consecutive reps lol.

How it should be done.  8)

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Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 12:37:53 PM
well yeh... it some kind of sumo shit.

he has goosd form and from chest to overhead he makes look like a piece of piss..

hes a strong bastard for sure

His form was shit from start to finish from rep one.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 12:43:50 PM
oh brother, where to start!!!! epic "highschool" cleaning form, brutal pressed out ugly jerks and not to mention the savage use of 8 10 pound plates a side so at least it looks heavy. WHAT A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D

Reminds me of this..

http://www.mpftrainingsystems.com/mpfblog.html
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Papper on April 01, 2012, 12:48:03 PM
alpha screaming "you little bitch" out in the air, macho kicking the wall
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on April 01, 2012, 12:51:03 PM
Reminds me of this..

http://www.mpftrainingsystems.com/mpfblog.html

Totally agree. Too many dickhead coaches pushing these kids to do more and more weight using shittier and shittier technique. Injuries waiting to happen.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: 240 is Back on April 01, 2012, 12:53:15 PM
WTF is all this crossfit talk about?
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Straw Man on April 01, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
I'm just becoming aware of these crossfit people

they started showing up in my gym using the shittiest form on pull up

what's the point of all the momentum and kicking with your legs and hips

some of these guys couldn't do one decent rep without this nonsense
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Marty Champions on April 01, 2012, 01:11:22 PM
dude is strong but the lack of emotional control makes me think hes all steroids
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 01:14:05 PM
dude is strong but the lack of emotional control makes me think hes all steroids

If he actually did the lift with proper technique he would barely get 185lbs if that.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Marty Champions on April 01, 2012, 01:20:04 PM
If he actually did the lift with proper technique he would barely get 185lbs if that.

no he got the lift, the point is to get the damn weight above your head, and he did that fairly easy
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 01, 2012, 01:29:13 PM
That would be a warm up for a weightlifter.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 01:29:43 PM
no he got the lift, the point is to get the damn weight above your head, and he did that fairly easy

Two different movements. He didn't do the first movement correctly. He just muscled it up. The whole point is to do the movement as it was intended not with that shit technique. Again, he wouldn't have even got the clean part with proper technique let alone get it over his head.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 01, 2012, 01:35:49 PM
Coach, get the fuck out of here.

-What the fuck is "muscling it up". Instead of extending his body what does he do instead? ::)
-There are no technique points given in strength sports.  ::) ::)
-Weren't you having trouble figuring how to extend, squat and push when you tried to snatch, clean and jerk. Don't reflect yourself to everyone else.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Marty Champions on April 01, 2012, 01:45:04 PM
Two different movements. He didn't do the first movement correctly. He just muscled it up. The whole point is to do the movement as it was intended not with that shit technique. Again, he wouldn't have even got the clean part with proper technique let alone get it over his head.


everyone has different body mechanics. not everyone fits the mold. the ones that dont try to do the same "fitting" as everyone else deserve credit as long as hes getting the job done

still the anger in him screams roid head
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 01:46:02 PM
Coach, get the fuck out of here.

-What the fuck is "muscling it up". Instead of extending his body what does he do instead? ::)
-There are no technique points given in strength sports.  ::) ::)
-Weren't you having trouble figuring how to extend, squat and push when you tried to snatch, clean and jerk. Don't reflect yourself to everyone else.  ::) ::) ::)

No I wasn't. Have you any idea how long it takes to learn even ONE o-lift? I do. I teach it. One aspect of one lift could take hours. Learning one lift with proper technique takes days and thats with just using a piece of PVC before progressing to just the bar. Have you any idea of what you're talking about? If you can't do the lift with proper technique and you get the weight up...you're muscling it up. Period. The picture is an example of what I'm talking about. Would you count that lift?




Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
everyone has different body mechanics. not everyone fits the mold. the ones that dont try to do the same "fitting" as everyone else deserve credit as long as hes getting the job done

still the anger in him screams roid head

True, there's a thousand ways to skin a cat but only one way to get to do it right.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 01, 2012, 01:49:38 PM
Yes I would count that, he cleans it. But no-one has ever really learned to lift with a fucking plastic pipe. Put some weight on a bar. How the fuck do you know what muscles you are using when there is no fucking resistance? 80 % of max is good for technique work.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: xpac2 on April 01, 2012, 01:50:11 PM
No I wasn't. Have you any idea how long it takes to learn even ONE o-lift? I do. I teach it. One aspect of one lift could take hours. Learning one lift with proper technique takes days and thats with just using a piece of PVC before progressing to just the bar. Have you any idea of what you're talking about? If you can't do the lift with proper technique and you get the weight up...you're muscling it up. Period. The picture is an example of what I'm talking about. Would you count that lift?






If you've never competed in O-Lifts you really have no reason to teach it..One bullshit course does not substitute years of experience. Stop talking about things you know zero about.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 01:56:40 PM
If you've never competed in O-Lifts you really have no reason to teach it..One bullshit course does not substitute years of experience. Stop talking about things you know zero about.

I don't? Have you competed in it? You mean to tell me if I haven't competed on something I'm not quaified to teach it? Tell me ONE thing in my post that I was wrong about? I've been teaching O-lift's for almost 10 years. please, please tell me.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 01, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
Yes if you are not under a heavy weight you have no idea...

Coach hasn't formed his own ideas so he must believe that a snatch and clean are jumping movements.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Hulkotron on April 01, 2012, 01:57:54 PM
Upright

x2
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 01, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
Coach, what is THEE most important muscle group in the clean and jerk? Only 1 real true answer.  :)
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 02:05:37 PM
Coach, what is THEE most important muscle group in the clean and jerk? Only 1 real true answer.  :)

There is no "One" muscle group. It's multiple muscle groups recruiting many units in one movement. Core being one of the most important.

BTW, I thrive on being tested like this.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 01, 2012, 02:07:48 PM
There is no "One" muscle group. It's multiple muscle groups recruiting many units in one movement. Core being one of the most important.

You didn't outright declare it but you surprised me there coach. Abs it is.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 02:11:15 PM
You didn't outright declare it but you surprised me there coach. Abs it is.

It's not just abs. Everyone uses the word "abs" as blanket for core.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Marty Champions on April 01, 2012, 02:12:17 PM
True, there's a thousand ways to skin a cat but only one way to get to do it right.

opinions arent facts. does this not compute?
being short and stubby its easy for you to say "do it like this" "its the only way"
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Marty Champions on April 01, 2012, 02:15:29 PM
I don't? Have you competed in it? You mean to tell me if I haven't competed on something I'm not quaified to teach it? Tell me ONE thing in my post that I was wrong about? I've been assuming i know teaching O-lift's for almost 10 years and forcing people to do it the exact way i saw it in the magizines i keep by the toilet. please, please tell me.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Rami on April 01, 2012, 02:17:01 PM
who cares about technique, either you get the lift or you don't and he did. so now he should get in to MMA
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 01, 2012, 02:35:28 PM
30 reps with 300lbs?  I'm calling big time bs. That spoosh side splitting form is terrible.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 02:46:20 PM
Yes I would count that, he cleans it. But no-one has ever really learned to lift with a fucking plastic pipe. Put some weight on a bar. How the fuck do you know what muscles you are using when there is no fucking resistance? 80 % of max is good for technique work.

Are you kidding? Countries who compete in weightlifting don't even load a bar at least.a.year after they start learning. So you're telling me to load a bar before learning technique? We use PVC to teach snatch progressions. Do you expect them to start with a load on the most difficult of all o-lifts?
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
opinions arent facts. does this not compute?
being short and stubby its easy for you to say "do it like this" "its the only way"

It's not an opinion.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: bradistani on April 01, 2012, 03:17:33 PM
there's nothing wrong at all with the fella's technique in the clip.. coach is just been critical because he's not familiar with that style of lifting. nor am i, but from watching the clip, i can hardly fault his form at all.  :-\
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Marty Champions on April 01, 2012, 03:24:55 PM
all pvc pipe muscles
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: monopoly19 on April 01, 2012, 03:30:19 PM
You guys are hard to please. Form is not what I would call great, but it works for Rob. I'd bet there are not many people out there that could do that. One 300lb clean and jerk is alot of work, let alone 30 of them! Pretty crazy if you ask me  :-\
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
there's nothing wrong at all with the fella's technique in the clip.. coach is just been critical because he's not familiar with that style of lifting. nor am i, but from watching the clip, i can hardly fault his form at all.  :-\

*sigh*  ::)
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Hulkotron on April 01, 2012, 03:54:59 PM
His form doesn't look bad to me but the concept of doing C&J for time is ridiculously stupid.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 04:17:22 PM
Besides having shitty form, it's not even a clean and jerk......it's more like a half-assed clean with a push press. If was an actual clean and jerk, it would be a jerk with a split....clean and split/jerk.....


Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 01, 2012, 04:35:16 PM
Just to drive the point home.....


Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: bradistani on April 01, 2012, 04:43:14 PM
there's more than one way to skin a cat  ;)
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 03, 2012, 06:42:25 AM
You guys are hard to please. Form is not what I would call great, but it works for Rob. I'd bet there are not many people out there that could do that. One 300lb clean and jerk is alot of work, let alone 30 of them! Pretty crazy if you ask me  :-\

I will venture to say there isn't a man in America that could do 30 reps with 300lbs. The bar isn't bending like it would for an olympic bar. It's impossible to tell the weight with those bumper plates. If you deadlift 500 to 600lbs take a bar loaded with 225lbs and see if you can do 30 reps in the power clean.  I bet you can't.
Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: BB on April 03, 2012, 06:47:12 AM
His clean is sloppy, but that is probably more a function of trying to beat the clock more than anything else.

His Power Jerk style was ok -

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The Greek teams were one of biggest propionates of the Power Jerk style-  

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Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: monopoly19 on April 03, 2012, 08:23:35 AM
Yes, you are right, it's not a jerk. The push press is harder than jerk.


Besides having shitty form, it's not even a clean and jerk......it's more like a half-assed clean with a push press. If was an actual clean and jerk, it would be a jerk with a split....clean and split/jerk.....



Title: Re: CrossFit - 300 pound "Grace" by Rob Orlando
Post by: A Professional on April 03, 2012, 09:26:52 AM
Falcon owning the Coach here...