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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: OptimusPrime1980 on April 11, 2012, 07:59:43 AM
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Look at this pic in the next post...
The dude next to Philly is a buddy of mine, a russian powerlifter...... strong mofo, good built , but normal... not very wide at all..... does some test en nandrolones for joints.... sure phil has way bigger arms.... but look at the torso... look at the width.... they both stand in the same angle....both just as far away from the lens.... he is just as wide as mr Olympia....!!!!!!! JUST AS WIDE, and he is on gym rat doses lol!!!!
i remember seeing pics of yates with other people... he DWARFED them all!!!! Ronnie the same thing..... These guys were mr Olympia's!!! this guy is a joke! bodybuilding today is a joke....
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Here is the pic
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You are to late dude...someone else already started a topic about these issues... ;D
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nice comparison---your friends arm is maybe half the size as phils--but ya he makes phil look small-lmao-oh wait there in a t shirt and pants so you can really tell whats going on-- ::) - lets put them both in some posing trunks and see how he compares to phil----lol
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nice comparison---your friends arm is maybe half the size as phils--but ya he makes phil look small-lmao-oh wait there in a t shirt and pants so you can really tell whats going on-- ::) - lets put them both in some posing trunks and see how he compares to phil----lol
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pics of him in a bedazzled thong plz
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Word of the day = "bedazzled" ! :D
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Probably better aesthetics on your "friend" as well!
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Seeing the picture now, Phil is owning your tattoo size shirt friend.... There is no need for Phil to balloon up to 300lbs like Ronnie or Jay in the off season, When Olympia prepping starts, Phil will be just where he needs to be
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nice comparison---your friends arm is maybe half the size as phils--but ya he makes phil look small-lmao-oh wait there in a t shirt and pants so you can really tell whats going on-- ::) - lets put them both in some posing trunks and see how he compares to phil----lol
::) ::) ::) can some of you critters even read????? i said his arms are way bigger...
i said look at width.... you do know what width is do you????
he is just as wide..... i am not talking muscle mass wise ... that is just a matter of drugs.... my
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lol something went wrong..... getbig is not the most stable site these days....
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Look at this pic....
the dude next to Philly is a buddy of mine, a russian powerlifter......
strong mofo, good built , but normal... not very wide at all..... does some test en nandrolones for joints....
sure phil has way bigger arms.... but look at the torso... look at the width.... they both stand in the same angle....both just as far away from the lens....
he is just as wide as mr Olympia....!!!!!!! JUST AS WIDE, and he is on gym rat doses lol!!!!
i remember seeing pics of yates with other people... he DWARFED them all!!!!
Ronnie the same thing..... These guys were mr Olympia's!!! this guy is a joke! bodybuilding today is a joke....
Phil just does not look impressive in real life. Big arms and that's it. Doesn't convey any strength.
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not even close.
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Seeing the picture now, Phil is owning your tattoo size shirt friend.... There is no need for Phil to balloon up to 300lbs like Ronnie or Jay in the off season, When Olympia prepping starts, Phil will be just where he needs to be
bro,
i am talking about width... not mass... anybody can see Philsulina has more mass....
but shoulder width is about the same... and phil is megadosing.... that is what i was saying...
phil is a small dude...... narrow as fuck! yes he is huge.... THESE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS!!!
one can be huge and still be narrow.....
my buddy is not even a wide built dude..... so that makes it even more pathetic!
and phil doesn't balloon up offseason indeed... he balloons up pre contest .. lol!
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Thing with Phil is that he isn't rugged or aesthetic, he is in some no man's land.
Fucking blooftastic.
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Phil just does not look impressive in real life. Big arms and that's it. Doesn't convey any strength.
finally someone that actually can read , and understand what i am saying.....
sometimes i get soo tired! i even say in my post that phil's arms are wayyyyy bigger... and you have these morons posting, "no contest dude, phil's arms are twice the size of your friends.... " ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
if you look at shoulder width , it's about the same! period.... and that is WITH all the mass that phil has extra over my buddy....
and my buddy is not very wide ... makes it even more sad.....
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yes, shoulder to shoulder phil is comparable to a womans gymnist ,
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aCYsfpGX07M/SKLm1nmaENI/AAAAAAAAAbg/Dv9ev6dlfLI/s400/610x.jpg)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=281478.0;attach=321497;image)
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and you just are learning this now? Come on man ::)
None of these new guys look impressive side by side. But most of all Mr Cutler the fat looking dwarf. I dwarf him easy. His arms are poor compared to Heath he doesn't even look like a bodybuilder! I dwarfed him in his prime. I can't imagine how small he would be now after dropping 50 odd pounds.
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finally someone that actually can read , and understand what i am saying.....
sometimes i get soo tired! i even say in my post that phil's arms are wayyyyy bigger... and you have these morons posting, "no contest dude, phil's arms are twice the size of your friends.... " ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
if you look at shoulder width , it's about the same! period.... and that is WITH all the mass that phil has extra over my buddy....
and my buddy is not very wide ... makes it even more sad.....
I can read and i know what your trying to say--my point is there is no fucking comparison between the two--width-arm size-leg size shape of muscle blah blah blah--
comparing a guy like this to phil is a joke-and thats my point-look at stage shots of phil -not him in a tshirt--its bodybuilding-not who looks wider standing in a t shirt- really now !!!!!!!
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I can read and i know what your trying to say--my point is there is no fucking comparison between the two--width-arm size-leg size shape of muscle blah blah blah--
comparing a guy like this to phil is a joke-and thats my point-look at stage shots of phil -not him in a tshirt--its bodybuilding-not who looks wider standing in a t shirt- really now !!!!!!!
shoulder width can be seen thru a t shirt dude... come on.. my buddy has the same width as Philsulina in that pic... and that is with Phil his blown up round shoulders....
Put a guy like Wolf in a pic with my buddy, and he will be blown away width wise....
if you can't see it, you need glasses...
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-its bodybuilding-not who looks wider
QFT
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just because someone looks good and big in the gym or somewhere in clothes doesn't mean shit in bodybuilding
i look like shit in clothes because i wear XL t shirts even though i'm 5'7" and i like to hide my muscles in the gym and in day to day life. big guys in the gym look bigger than me but i would destroy them on stage because of my proportions etc
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just because someone looks good and big in the gym or somewhere in clothes doesn't mean shit in bodybuilding
i look like shit in clothes because i wear XL t shirts even though i'm 5'7" and i like to hide my muscles in the gym and in day to day life. big guys in the gym look bigger than me but i would destroy them on stage because of my proportions etc
5'7" huh? Sorry to hear that. ;D
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just because someone looks good and big in the gym or somewhere in clothes doesn't mean shit in bodybuilding
i look like shit in clothes because i wear XL t shirts even though i'm 5'7" and i like to hide my muscles in the gym and in day to day life. big guys in the gym look bigger than me but i would destroy them on stage because of my proportions etc
dumbest post I have read in a while.
You are 5 foot 7 and you want to hide this great physique...? You are an embarrassment to bodybuilders wearing your triple XL shirts. The guys in the gym probably think you are a fat dwarf like Cutler. Wear proper attire!
You body build to look good. Get some self esteem.
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I get what the OP is saying.
There is no doubt that Phil is a better bbr, but he is also the current Mr O. The best bodybuilding has to offer to date.
Guys like Dorian, Ronnie, and even Jay dwarfed people wearing loose sweatshirts and sweatpants. You didn't have to use the argument of "well, if they were on stage", they blew people away fully covered up.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=403883.0;attach=444390;image)
:D
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Phil is alot bigger than that now. I saw him recently guest pose and he is about 280, the biggest by far he has ever been.
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idunno about that dude, his arms are like twice as thick and you can see the delts are significantly larger. you just think he's the same size because phil's offseason and the other dude's cuts look better
look at the forearms if you still think they have the same muscle mass
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I get what the OP is saying.
There is no doubt that Phil is a better bbr, but he is also the current Mr O. The best bodybuilding has to offer to date.
Guys like Dorian, Ronnie, and even Jay dwarfed people wearing loose sweatshirts and sweatpants. You didn't have to use the argument of "well, if they were on stage", they blew people away fully covered up.
So what , 1000's of people dwarfed ,Zane ,Dickerson,Bannout .....stupid argument .
Here Ronnie dwarfed by an amateur.
(http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/post-13047-1160908735_thumb.jpg)
(http://www.70sbig.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/image0011.jpg)
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I'm glad that Mr Insulympia has just left my country. He was here for a couple of days, promoting a vitamin store ::)
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So what , 1000's of people dwarfed ,Zane ,Dickerson,Bannout .....stupid argument .
Here Ronnie dwarfed by an amateur.
(http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/post-13047-1160908735_thumb.jpg)
(http://www.70sbig.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/image0011.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/102wo78.jpg)
those guys are goddamn freaks of nature though, all at least 6'3" and that last guy looks even taller. and they're nowhere near stage condition, ronnie looks a lot shredded
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pics don't tell the whole story. my brother in law is 5'7 250 lb somoan. he doesn't look big in pics. but in real life he is a tank.
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dumbest post I have read in a while.
You are 5 foot 7 and you want to hide this great physique...? You are an embarrassment to bodybuilders wearing your triple XL shirts. The guys in the gym probably think you are a fat dwarf like Cutler. Wear proper attire!
You body build to look good. Get some self esteem.
i am just very modest
i wear xl because it fits my arms without my arms bulging out of them
i by no means am a fat dwarf...
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Well, I'm not the fan of Phil's physique...but at the 2011 Mr. Olympia...he was the best onstage...by far... So he's Mr. Olympia. End of story.
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Optimus is cool shit, but this madness of putting Phil Heath down constently by saying he is narrow and he is full of insulin and oil needs to stop for 2 simple reasons, 1- Was he the best on stage at the O? yes' even the ones that put him down will agree with that, 2- Anyone that has ever stepped foot on a bodybuilding stage, would do the exact same things Phil did if it would bring them a Sandow- anyone who denies this is an f....liar.
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dumbest post I have read in a while.
You are 5 foot 7 and you want to hide this great physique...? You are an embarrassment to bodybuilders wearing your triple XL shirts. The guys in the gym probably think you are a fat dwarf like Cutler. Wear proper attire!
You body build to look good. Get some self esteem.
oh yeah and i don't like the saggy triple XL. i just wear XL and sometimes L but those are usually too tight around my arms when i train upper body and my arms get a pump. but i do know what you mean about the fat dwarf thing i just don't like to show off my muscles, i would assume that anyone who can see the outline of the delts and the bulge of the traps would know i'm a decent BB. although i really should more revealing clothes in the gym...it is going to be hottie season in the gym quite soon ;D
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yes, shoulder to shoulder phil is comparable to a womans gymnist ,
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aCYsfpGX07M/SKLm1nmaENI/AAAAAAAAAbg/Dv9ev6dlfLI/s400/610x.jpg)
girl's got a neck like a young chris cormier
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So what , 1000's of people dwarfed ,Zane ,Dickerson,Bannout .....stupid argument .
Here Ronnie dwarfed by an amateur.
(http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/post-13047-1160908735_thumb.jpg)
(http://www.70sbig.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/image0011.jpg)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/102wo78.jpg)
Dickerson, Zane, Bannout? You mean actual bodybuilders, Phil doesn't apply to this group. Phil wouldn't be Mr O in that era, he is exactly where he belongs. An era where guys are walking pharmacies and go for conditioned size above all else. So when you get a title naming you the biggest, conditioned person in the world expectations are a little different.
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5'7" huh? Sorry to hear that. ;D
lol if you said that to me years ago i would have been hurt :P,
but now i just accept my height, im like average height for an asian guy...in dress shoes i can be up to 5'9" so thats ok
although i always wanted to be 6 ft, nothing i can do about that though ;D
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who gives a fuck phil shits all over your russian friend
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honestly guys it's not just all size, you can't deny he has decent proportions, pretty small waist (for today's standard), decent striations in some areas, decent balance (not lacking calves or forearms like some guys), granted it's not 70's physique but we're not going to see that again any time soon i think, and sure he is narrow but so was levrone ronnie arnold and lots of other competetive bb'ers
and he carries the seos extremely well compared to some *other* O's.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/16jq543.jpg)
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decent proportions ???
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Optimus is cool shit, but this madness of putting Phil Heath down constently by saying he is narrow and he is full of insulin and oil needs to stop for 2 simple reasons, 1- Was he the best on stage at the O? yes' even the ones that put him down will agree with that, 2- Anyone that has ever stepped foot on a bodybuilding stage, would do the exact same things Phil did if it would bring them a Sandow- anyone who denies this is an f....liar.
i agree with you....
i just think a bb should be wide! and phil is not....
and still alot of fools in thuis nthread talk about mass...
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Lots of people dwarfed franco, zane and dickerson
Some were bigger than arnold , haney, yates maybe even ronnie
But how many could stand next to them onstage? Not many at their prime
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Optimus is cool shit, but this madness of putting Phil Heath down constently by saying he is narrow and he is full of insulin and oil needs to stop for 2 simple reasons, 1- Was he the best on stage at the O? yes' even the ones that put him down will agree with that, 2- Anyone that has ever stepped foot on a bodybuilding stage, would do the exact same things Phil did if it would bring them a Sandow- anyone who denies this is an f....liar.
bro....
i never said he was not a good bodybuilder....
but i think a bb needs to be WIDE.... naturally wide clavicles, that look is far superior to what philsulina is displaying.
and yes i\he was the best on stage,.... says a lot about bodybuilding 2012... lol I think wolf looks way better(but that is just personal)
and agreed on the fact everybody does the same drugs... but phil just has a fake look.... you can blow up to fast..... another example is Roelly....
further to all the fools in this thread that can not seem to read.....
I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT MUSCLE MASS, I NEVER SAID MY BUDDY WAS BIGGER, I NEVER SAID PHIL IS NOT HUGE.... GET IT???? LEARN TO FUCKING READ! ;D ;D ;D
i said he is narrow, and my buddy has the about the same shoulder width as phil in the pic.......
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You`re losing it Optimus........Phils arms blow your buddys guns out of the water! ;D
Just kidding,put the gun down. ;)
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Phil meets a real Dutchman. Fun starts @1:50
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Thats a fucking giant..even for a big dutch guy as myself.... ;D
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Thats a fucking giant..even for a big dutch guy as myself.... ;D
Tallest guy of our country (2.17m that is). He was also @ a Jay Cutler meet in Almere, me too btw
(http://94.100.120.131/1153200001-1153250000/1153247401-1153247500/1153247416_6_RQmD_2.jpeg)
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hahah do you go to that gym dp?
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hahah do you go to that gym dp?
Man I wished, but I live in Zuid Holland.
This place was huge, open 24/7, filled with great equipment like a full Hammer line.
Oh, and this nice female instructor :P
(http://static-webregio.nl/content/images/xl/spierbundelenlangstemanvannederlandinalmerealmere.jpg)
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Width is genetics. But seriously posting a pic of a guy with arms 5-6" smaller than Phill doesn't make sense?
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Man I wished, but I live in Zuid Holland.
This place was huge, open 24/7, filled with great equipment like a full Hammer line.
Oh, and this nice female instructor :P
(http://static-webregio.nl/content/images/xl/spierbundelenlangstemanvannederlandinalmerealmere.jpg)
Very nice instructor
Is the guy next to jay 8 feet tall
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Man I wished, but I live in Zuid Holland.
This place was huge, open 24/7, filled with great equipment like a full Hammer line.
Oh, and this nice female instructor :P
Lol...i go to that gym man hahah...to bad whe cant workout sometime...it is a great gym indeed.
The girl in the picture is the wife of the murdered gym owner Monder Bannout.... ;)
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Very nice instructor
Is the guy next to jay 8 feet tall
Who is gonna have the shorter life span, Jay or the tall guy?
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Lol...i go to that gym man hahah...to bad whe cant workout sometime...it is a great gym indeed.
The girl in the picture is the wife of the murdered gym owner Monder Bannout.... ;)
Lucky you, training in a place like that.
Yeah, I heard about his tragic death and it's possible cause... I spoke a few words with him, calm & friendly guy, RIP & PIP
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Very nice instructor
Is the guy next to jay 8 feet tall
7'12
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Ah yes, the endless debate of overall size/body weight vs. Looks/proportion, or looking like a BB while clothed vs looking average while clothed.
I have noticed that many of the negative comments making fun of clothed, smaller lifters 'not looking like they lift weights' often come
from powerlifter/permabulkers types.
My theory is that these guys either have too hard of a time getting lean, or don't have the discipline to, so they
make fun of those that do.
I notice that a lot of negative comments about huge guys that look big in clothes come from smaller lean guys that probably wish they were bigger.
A lot of the time I hear people say they just look like the Average fat American when wearing normal clothes.
I don't knock anyone for how they decide to go about changing their body, I just think its stupid when people bad mouth anyone without the same goals
as them.
To me, a bodybuilder is anyone who has added a significant amount of lean mass to their frame, whether they are 165 or 285, we all have different genes
and we all start at different places. I also feel that a true bodybuilder has to be lean most of the time, even off season. I don't mean they have to be
shredded, but I do feel that cuts in the muscles should be clear. If not, you just look like a big guy that is strong.
I weigh 215 @ 10-12% at 5'9''. I don't think I look like a bodybuilder in clothes, but I do think people can tell it is quite obvious that I lift weights when I am
shirtless or if I wear a light T-shirt that is not too large. I never wear skin tight stuff, but I don't wear it too loose either.
I have a friend that is an inch shorter, 185lbs @ an honest 8%. He looks a tiny bit thicker clothes, but without a shirt, he would wipe the floor with me or any
other guy I know that weighs 220+.
Bodybuilding is an illusion. I wish I was more like my friend..... looking jacked as hell with a low bodyweight.
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nice comparison---your friends arm is maybe half the size as phils--but ya he makes phil look small-lmao-oh wait there in a t shirt and pants so you can really tell whats going on-- ::) - lets put them both in some posing trunks and see how he compares to phil----lol
Welcome to gaysville
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Welcome to gaysville
the gay is strong in some folks .. put them both in a bedazzled thong and let them go "head to head"
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the gay is strong in some folks .. put them both in a bedazzled thong and let them go "head to head"
can there be oil and an empty child's paddling pool involved??? ???
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Considering being Mr Olympia isnt about whos the biggest guy, this thread is seriously pointless ::)
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Lucky you, training in a place like that.
Yeah, I heard about his tragic death and it's possible cause... I spoke a few words with him, calm & friendly guy, RIP & PIP
mondher is dead????? wtf????
when did that happen??
i have been living in Brazil since 2005.....
i am reading up on it now.... fuck!!!
i knew him... :(
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mondher is dead????? wtf????
when did that happen??
i have been living in Brazil since 2005.....
i am reading up on it now.... fuck!!!
i knew him... :(
Yes, very sad! It happened in Sept last year, right before his home. One motive could be his publication (S&F mag) about messy UG labs in Tunisia.
http://www.avro.nl/tv/programmas_a-z/opsporing_verzocht/zaken_deze_week/20120110/almere_mondher.aspx
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Yes, very sad! It happened in Sept last year, right before his home. One motive could be his publication (S&F mag) about messy UG labs in Tunisia.
http://www.avro.nl/tv/programmas_a-z/opsporing_verzocht/zaken_deze_week/20120110/almere_mondher.aspx
i have been reading up on it..
when i knew Mondher it was mondher himself that was the big fish.. lol!!
he had contacts in tunesia... and in tunesia steroids are CHEAP! lol... Also Egypt is nearby, there steroids are also CHEAP!
no one in his right mind would start a ugl in one of those places lol!
The Nature's Best supplement line was just a front! lol.....
and that story about the bodybuilder with this basballsized cyste on his ass... lol
I remember Ed van Amsterdam having one, it was removed in the hospital, Ed at the time was sponsered by........ yep Natures Best.
Mondher was having all kinds of problems with the fiod(irs) even was bancrupt as i read....
that story was just to clean his name somewhat, as he was arrested and they found large amounts of steroids in his house.
he was doing some stuff to make quick money, and payed for it.... that is my gutfeeling.....
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Yes, very sad! It happened in Sept last year, right before his home. One motive could be his publication (S&F mag) about messy UG labs in Tunisia.
That had nothing to do with it...
i have been reading up on it..
when i knew Mondher it was mondher himself that was the big fish.. lol!!
he had contacts in tunesia... and in tunesia steroids are CHEAP! lol... Also Egypt is nearby, there steroids are also CHEAP!
no one in his right mind would start a ugl in one of those places lol!
The Nature's Best supplement line was just a front! lol.....
and that story about the bodybuilder with this basballsized cyste on his ass... lol
I remember Ed van Amsterdam having one, it was removed in the hospital, Ed at the time was sponsered by........ yep Natures Best.
Mondher was having all kinds of problems with the fiod(irs) even was bancrupt as i read....
that story was just to clean his name somewhat, as he was arrested and they found large amounts of steroids in his house.
he was doing some stuff to make quick money, and payed for it.... that is my gutfeeling.....
Not really...in fact mondher was a guy who had lots of money but it was never enough...dont forget his lifestyle didnt help him in that regard... ;)
I know what happend to him and why but im not going to talk about it here... ;)
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The REAL Mr.O should be not only cut, proportioned, dense...etc but also THE BIGGEST in my book. PHIL is not the REAL O in my book.
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and who do you propose,paco bautista? ::)
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and who do you propose,paco bautista? ::)
His proportion is really bad. Ragging bodyparts. He cant be a Mr.O
Now, I think Kai is the best. Just he dont dial right in at Mr.O.
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That had nothing to do with it...
Not really...in fact mondher was a guy who had lots of money but it was never enough...dont forget his lifestyle didnt help him in that regard... ;)
I know what happend to him and why but im not going to talk about it here... ;)
well he was having fanancial problems ... he was even bankrupt...
i knew him way back in 2004... nice guy, lots of knowledge!! and very open...
it's always guessing what really happened... maybe a family thing?? could be whatever... but that story in the telegraaf was bullshit i agree!
but i was shocked bro! it was like when Ronald van Kleef got killed.. remember that???
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well he was having fanancial problems ... he was even bankrupt...
i knew him way back in 2004... nice guy, lots of knowledge!! and very open...
it's always guessing what really happened... maybe a family thing?? could be whatever... but that story in the telegraaf was bullshit i agree!
but i was shocked bro! it was like when Ronald van Kleef got killed.. remember that???
That's the tragic thing, many people in the cult life "rollercoaster lives", also the good & honest ones. I've heard too many stories like this, for me the reason to keep them on a certain distance, not that I have something against them.
Yeah, I remember Ronald got killed by a group of cowards, also very sad. When I'm correct, he became only 35... I saw him compete on the Dutch night of the champions, guy was a beast.
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The REAL Mr.O should be not only cut, proportioned, dense...etc but also THE BIGGEST in my book. PHIL is not the REAL O in my book.
this.
if not the biggest one of the biggest..
i like phil but he just got a pass because everyone has that arm fetish beach muscle menatality....
if his standout bodypart wasnt his arms... trix et al would be singing a different tune...
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honestly guys it's not just all size, you can't deny he has decent proportions, pretty small waist (for today's standard), decent striations in some areas, decent balance (not lacking calves or forearms like some guys), granted it's not 70's physique but we're not going to see that again any time soon i think, and sure he is narrow but so was levrone ronnie arnold and lots of other competetive bb'ers
and he carries the seos extremely well compared to some *other* O's.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/16jq543.jpg)
Ronnie was narrow? Wtf are you smoking? ??? ??? ???
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His proportion is really bad. Ragging bodyparts. He cant be a Mr.O
Now, I think Kai is the best. Just he dont dial right in at Mr.O.
lol yeah, they're all lagging behind his massive gut
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That's the tragic thing, many people in the cult life "rollercoaster lives", also the good & honest ones. I've heard too many stories like this, for me the reason to keep them on a certain distance, not that I have something against them.
Yeah, I remember Ronald got killed by a group of cowards, also very sad. When I'm correct, he became only 35... I saw him compete on the Dutch night of the champions, guy was a beast.
yeah... it was his "friend" that shot him during a ripdeal... (drugs)
first broke his legs with baseball bats.... sick....
Ronald was a huge basterd... legit 55plus cm arms... dude was about 1,90....
but like so many got caught up in the fast life, and payed for it...
yeah i was early 30's..... still very young.... SAD
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phil has good muscle shape and he doesnt have a gut which is good.....
but that pic above to me doesnt scream best bber in the world....
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lol yeah, they're all lagging behind his massive gut
i actually agree here with our asian friend here.... usually he is full of shit with his natural crap... lol!!!
but! here he's got a point...
and really paco has some damn good arms! and did you see his hams?? overall leg mass is awesome...
he just doesn't flow and his WIDE mid section throws everything of balance...
you see this whole gut thing is silly since they ALL have a gut today....
some just have wide midsections... a gut can be hidden... wide mid sections not so...
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(http://i54.tinypic.com/2dloq6o.jpg)
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(http://forum.ilovespam.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10441&stc=1&d=1270565254)
(http://www.vojvodina.com/fitness/galery1/images/03_psd.jpg)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/guestp8882.jpg)
(http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/members-photos/13370d1183319851-guest-pose-pic-local-show-ronnie-coleman-bill.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2dloq6o.jpg)
and what point are you trying to make, besides the fact you have no clue what shoulder width means???
again i was not talking about mass... so your pics of ronnie with some fat dudes doesn't make sense... other pics of a ronnie far past his prime also makes no sense...
lou with dillet... look at shoulder width..... and lou is not even standing straight.... but if he would shoulder width is about the same....
phil is narrow as fuck! i think that is not a good look for a bodybuilder... it makes his chest look weird.....
you do like his look... well fine .... but he is narrow.... very narrow.... can't be denied...
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its hard to tell shoulder width in pictures... You can only judge it in person, pictures can be tell the whole story..... only way for you to really know if phil is Narrow is for you to actually stand next to him,
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lol yeah, they're all lagging behind his massive gut
Wrong the gut of Paco is not stick out like coleman. Just his waist is really wide.
His lagging bodyparts are chest and back.
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(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3484/3299617825_aab7459b6a.jpg)
phil has good muscle shape and he doesnt have a gut which is good.....
but that pic above to me doesnt scream best bber in the world....
Well, this pic is from 07 or 08, most recent pics, he looks like a football player with huge arms and midsection.
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i dunno when its from but prove s my point
phil has great arm shape... ...goot insertions all round.. most of all in this current climate of prows he doesnt have a gut
.... i like him ..
mr olympia should be one of the biggest and freakiest.. like n colmean in his prime
HUGE LEGS HUGE ARMS HUGE DELTS HUGE CHEST HUGE BACK....
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I see what op is saying, take the arm out of the equation they look about the same size.
Take the shirt off Phil would kill him but structure wise Phil is nothing.
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I see what op is saying, take the arm out of the equation they look about the same size.
Take the shirt off Phil would kill him but structure wise Phil is nothing.
this says it all
but its all overlooked because his arms are big.....
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I see what op is saying, take the arm out of the equation they look about the same size.
Take the shirt off Phil would kill him but structure wise Phil is nothing.
finally someone that gets what i was saying!!!!
thank you bro... i had given up! lol.....
;D ;D ;D
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Ronnie was narrow? Wtf are you smoking? ??? ??? ???
narrow as shit mang, made up for it with delt mass just like levrone, heath and flex syntholler
once you take away all the mass you can see just how narrow the underlying structure is
even when relaxed he doesn't look super wide, shoulders aren't much wider than waist or quad sweep
(http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/muscle-building-bodybuilding/4181d1332507994-random-bodybuilding-stuff-158378-bodybuilder-ronnie-coleman.jpg)
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narrow as shit mang, made up for it with delt mass just like levrone, heath and flex syntholler
once you take away all the mass you can see just how narrow the underlying structure is
even when relaxed he doesn't look super wide, shoulders aren't much wider than waist or quad sweep
(http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/muscle-building-bodybuilding/4181d1332507994-random-bodybuilding-stuff-158378-bodybuilder-ronnie-coleman.jpg)
correct.....
wide bb are Yates, Cormier, Burke, Ruhl, Dj... etc etc...
you can usually tell by looking at the clavicle bone.... wide bb almost have a straight one... a straight line.... and the narrow ones have more of an angle....like a V.....
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395593.0;attach=429870;image)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395593.0;attach=429870;image)
this is funny! lol!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D
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narrow as shit mang, made up for it with delt mass just like levrone, heath and flex syntholler
once you take away all the mass you can see just how narrow the underlying structure is
even when relaxed he doesn't look super wide, shoulders aren't much wider than waist or quad sweep
(http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachments/muscle-building-bodybuilding/4181d1332507994-random-bodybuilding-stuff-158378-bodybuilder-ronnie-coleman.jpg)
C'mon, we're talking about ronnie in his prime, not after surgeries, injuries, etc. Yes, some were wider than him, but Ronnie was wideee make no mistake
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yeah narrow
(http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/8/4/843987.1134058223337.ron_coleman.jpg)
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narrow as shit mang, made up for it with delt mass just like levrone, heath and flex syntholler
once you take away all the mass you can see just how narrow the underlying structure is
even when relaxed he doesn't look super wide, shoulders aren't much wider than waist or quad sweep
X 1000
(http://www.isteroids.com/bodybuilding/images/ronnie_coleman2.jpg)
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C'mon, we're talking about ronnie in his prime, not after surgeries, injuries, etc. Yes, some were wider than him, but Ronnie was wideee make no mistake
well we're not talking klinefelter's narrow but he was narrow-ish
don't get me wrong, even "narrow" guys like heath and arnold can look fucking wide as long as you keep your upper back strength up with your chest so the shoulder girdle doesn't get protracted (a chronic condition among bodybuilders), keep your delt strength balanced (equally strong front and rear delts). the rest is just making your medial delts as huge as possible, keeping the waist trim and watch the quad sweep (don't let legs get too big).
bodybuilding is all illusion even gh15 says so
yeah narrow
lol yeah let's pick a pose specifically designed to make you look wider and go on that.
here's a better example look at how cutler looks wider and his torso has a pronounced v-taper even though the midsections are roughly the same size, and ronnie has a few inches on him in height
(http://www.rippedworkouts.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ronnie-coleman-jay-cutler.jpg)
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(http://www.rippedworkouts.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ronnie-coleman-jay-cutler.jpg)
Looks like Phil is wider than Ronnie
(http://blog.bodybuilding.com/SecondFocus/mediaresource/6b1c6e0d-3038-434b-9d56-32a967d622b2?t=true)
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Looks like Phil is wider than Ronnie
(http://blog.bodybuilding.com/SecondFocus/mediaresource/6b1c6e0d-3038-434b-9d56-32a967d622b2?t=true)
i don't see why phil gets so much shit on here, i mean look at him perfect ab symmetry, strong legs, tight midsection, amazing arms, definitely less size but the balance is decent
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Bodybuilding is an illusion.. Look some of the best physiques look narrow in clothing and certain clothing does not help.. when you take the top off and the waist looks narrow compared to the shoulders and lats then this makes people look wide
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Bodybuilding is an illusion.. Look some of the best physiques look narrow in clothing and certain clothing does not help.. when you take the top off and the waist looks narrow compared to the shoulders and lats then this makes people look wide
Solid post and excellent opening statement.
OP,
Agree with your post. Guys just aren't built the same today. Truly refined width and thickness is not one of Phils better traits.
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Also, and not that it makes a difference to your point... I don't think Phil mega doses all year round. He absolutely stays on... a lot too, but I think he goes higher on his gh and slin during contest prep and grows into his stage "width."
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Looks like Phil is wider than Ronnie
(http://blog.bodybuilding.com/SecondFocus/mediaresource/6b1c6e0d-3038-434b-9d56-32a967d622b2?t=true)
Ha ha ha ha
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i dunno when its from but prove s my point
phil has great arm shape... ...goot insertions all round.. most of all in this current climate of prows he doesnt have a gut
.... i like him ..
mr olympia should be one of the biggest and freakiest.. like n colmean in his prime
HUGE LEGS HUGE ARMS HUGE DELTS HUGE CHEST HUGE BACK....
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Who should be mr, o at the moment?
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Who should be mr, o at the moment?
I think Dennis Wolf would be a excellent mister O ...
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I think Dennis Wolf would be a excellent mister O ...
I agree but i really don't see them letting him have it.
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Have you ever stood next to Ronnie in his prime? His shoulders are wide as fuck!
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Have you ever stood next to Ronnie in his prime? His shoulders are wide as fuck!
Calm down "Ronnie", it ain't nothing but a peanut
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phil heath is a joke
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when coleman stands relaxed he stands with his shoulders back bad posture
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when he is standing shoulders not pinched back
different story
(http://www.celebheights.com/starimages/ronnie-coleman.jpg)
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Ronnie's posture is what makes him look
more narrow in relaxed pictures.
Here's two screen stills from youtube.
One from the beginning of prejudging
and another at the end. Notice in the
1st picture it looks like his arms are a
bit behind Jay's and Levrone's. In the
2005 pics he is way behind Jay.
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Ronnie's posture is what makes him look
more narrow in relaxed pictures.
Here's two screen stills from youtube.
One from the beginning of prejudging
and another at the end. Notice in the
1st picture it looks like his arms are a
bit behind Jay's and Levrone's. In the
2005 pics he is way behind Jay.
there is muscle mass and there is structure...
look at the angle in ronnies clavicle bone... he has a V.. and then look at cutlers..... almost a straight line...
cutler is wide naturally... ronnie is not....
period!
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yep and now Ronnie is shrunken his narrowness is really evident
there is muscle mass and there is structure...
look at the angle in ronnies clavicle bone... he has a V.. and then look at cutlers..... almost a straight line...
cutler is wide naturally... ronnie is not....
period!
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pics of him in a bedazzled thong plz
hahahahahahahahah this dude said bedazzled...hahahahahaha ha