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The Secret Service Is Looking Into Ted Nugent's Potential Threat Against President Obama
Brett LoGiurato | 19 minutes ago | 172 | 3
So, over the weekend at the National Rifle Association convention in St. Louis, Ted Nugent said that "if Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
Now the Secret Service is looking into the comment.
"We are aware of it, and we are conducting an appropriate follow-up," Secret Service spokesman told Business Insider via phone. He did not say if the agency was treating the statement as a threat against the President. Oh, and Nugent has also endorsed Mitt Romney, which has prompted Democrats to turn this into their own sort of Hilary Rosen situation.
Nugent's interview, video of which is below via Right Wing Watch, is one of mind-boggling proportions, even for the outlandish statements the "Motor City Madman" has made in the past. He gets into it around the 1:40 mark in the first video, and calls the Obama administration "vile, evil and America-hating." He calls Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "criminals." And he warns that if Obama is elected, the U.S. will become "a suburb of Indonesia."
Before that statement, which caused the most controversy, there is the completely plausible (read: not plausible at all) analogy of Obama and other Democrats to coyotes.
"If the coyote's in your living room, p*ssing on your couch, it's not the coyotes fault. It's your fault for not shooting him," Nugent said. Several supporters in the background say, "That's right."
He moves onto more mainstream, but crucial, talking points of "I'm not taking this crap anymore" and "Leave my paycheck alone" before he goes back to the crazy — a Braveheart analogy.
"We are patriots. We are Braveheart," Nugent said. "We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November. Any questions?"
Well, yes, a lot of questions, actually.
Anyway, the Democratic National Committee has released a statement from Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz calling on Romney to condemn Nugent's statements. She also refers to Nugent as a "Romney surrogate."
"Mitt Romney surrogate Ted Nugent made offensive comments about President Obama and November’s elections this weekend that are despicable, deplorable and completely beyond the pale. He called the Administration 'vile,' 'evil' and 'America-hating,' and said much worse. Yet what have we heard from Mitt Romney and the Republican Party, who should be outraged that someone representing them is using language like this to make a political point? Absolutely nothing."
You might remember back in 2007, when Ted Nugent was again being crazy and made what some thought were threats against Obama. He told him then to "suck on" a couple of machine guns he was holding up.
He endorsed Mitt Romney back when it still wasn't completely cool to do so, after a "long heart&soul conversation." That's when his son, Tagg, tweeted this:
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ted-nugent-obama-statements-provoke-secret-service-probe-2012-4#ixzz1sKvrBXCY
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The Secret Service Is Looking Into Ted Nugent's Potential Threat Against President Obama
Brett LoGiurato | 19 minutes ago | 172 | 3
So, over the weekend at the National Rifle Association convention in St. Louis, Ted Nugent said that "if Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
Now the Secret Service is looking into the comment.
"We are aware of it, and we are conducting an appropriate follow-up," Secret Service spokesman told Business Insider via phone. He did not say if the agency was treating the statement as a threat against the President. Oh, and Nugent has also endorsed Mitt Romney, which has prompted Democrats to turn this into their own sort of Hilary Rosen situation.
Nugent's interview, video of which is below via Right Wing Watch, is one of mind-boggling proportions, even for the outlandish statements the "Motor City Madman" has made in the past. He gets into it around the 1:40 mark in the first video, and calls the Obama administration "vile, evil and America-hating." He calls Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "criminals." And he warns that if Obama is elected, the U.S. will become "a suburb of Indonesia."
Before that statement, which caused the most controversy, there is the completely plausible (read: not plausible at all) analogy of Obama and other Democrats to coyotes.
"If the coyote's in your living room, p*ssing on your couch, it's not the coyotes fault. It's your fault for not shooting him," Nugent said. Several supporters in the background say, "That's right."
He moves onto more mainstream, but crucial, talking points of "I'm not taking this crap anymore" and "Leave my paycheck alone" before he goes back to the crazy — a Braveheart analogy.
"We are patriots. We are Braveheart," Nugent said. "We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November. Any questions?"
Well, yes, a lot of questions, actually.
Anyway, the Democratic National Committee has released a statement from Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz calling on Romney to condemn Nugent's statements. She also refers to Nugent as a "Romney surrogate."
"Mitt Romney surrogate Ted Nugent made offensive comments about President Obama and November’s elections this weekend that are despicable, deplorable and completely beyond the pale. He called the Administration 'vile,' 'evil' and 'America-hating,' and said much worse. Yet what have we heard from Mitt Romney and the Republican Party, who should be outraged that someone representing them is using language like this to make a political point? Absolutely nothing."
You might remember back in 2007, when Ted Nugent was again being crazy and made what some thought were threats against Obama. He told him then to "suck on" a couple of machine guns he was holding up.
He endorsed Mitt Romney back when it still wasn't completely cool to do so, after a "long heart&soul conversation." That's when his son, Tagg, tweeted this:
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ted-nugent-obama-statements-provoke-secret-service-probe-2012-4#ixzz1sKvrBXCY
Can't threaten the President of the US no matter how much you don't like him.... :(
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Does it mean he's going to kill himself or is he going to go on a shooting spree like that Norway guy? Seems to me that he may be losing it.
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Does it mean he's going to kill himself or is he going to go on a shooting spree like that Norway guy? Seems to me that he may be losing it.
Maybe he thinks he will have a heart attack or something?
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http://www.businessinsider.com/ted-nugent-defends-obama-remarks-2012-4
Lol.
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Ted Nugent Rebuffs Democratic Attacks: ‘I’m a Black Jew at a Nazi-Klan Rally’
ABC News ^ | April 17, 2012
Posted on April 17, 2012 11:07:44 PM EDT by Free ThinkerNY
Rock guitarist, conservative activist and Mitt Romney supporter Ted Nugent says he stands by his provocative rant against the Obama administration at last weekend’s National Rifle Association convention, despite mounting pressure from Democrats and an investigation by the Secret Service.
“I spoke at the NRA and I will stand by my speech. It was 100 percent positive,” Nugent told the Dana Loesch radio show today. “It’s about we the people taking back our American dream from the corrupt monsters in the federal government under this administration and the communist czars he’s appointed.”
Nugent told a crowd of convention-goers that “if Barack Obama becomes the president in November, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
“If you can’t go home and get everybody in your lives to clean house in this vile, evil, America-hating administration, I don’t even know what you’re made of,” he said at the NRA.
Democrats launched a social media and web video campaign demanding that Nugent retract his statements and Mitt Romney, whom Nugent has endorsed and stumped for, deliver a public rebuke. Romney has not commented.
The Secret Service told ABC News it is aware of Nugent’s comments and conducting “the appropriate follow-up” given the potentially threatening nature of the remarks.
“See, I’m a black Jew at a Nazi-Klan rally, and there are some power-abusing corrupt monsters in our federal government that despise me because I have the audacity to speak the truth to identify the violations of our government, particularly Eric Holder and the president and Tim Geithner, ad nauseum,” Nugent told Loesch.
“I have never in my life threatened anyone’s life. I’m incapable of threatening anyone’s life. Because I’m about positive change, my entire speech, all my articles,” he later added.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
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I thought this guy died of cat scratch fever years ago.
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I thought this guy died of cat scratch fever years ago.
no, he just had Wang Dang Sweet
Poontang ;D
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Maybe he thinks he will have a heart attack or something?
you don't go to jail for having a heart attack ::)
"...in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
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Mitt Romney endorser Ted Nugent will meet with the Secret Service Thursday as a followup to his incendiary comments at an NRA convention over the weekend. In an interview with Glenn Beck, Nugent again said the comments were not meant as a threat to anyone and said his political opponents were blowing the tirade out of proportion.
As for the Secret Service probe, Nugent said that he will be meeting with officials on Thursday.
“We actually have heard from the Secret Service and they have a duty. I support them. I salute them. And I look forward to our meeting tomorrow,” he said. “I‘m sure we’ll have a great conversation…bottom line is, I‘ve never threatened anybody’s life in my life. I’ve never threatened. I don’t waste breath threatening.”
Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/ted-nugent-to-meet-with-secret-service-thursday?ref=fpb
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he was on beck this morning. said he was gonna have a BBQ and eat and relax while chatting with them.
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you don't go to jail for having a heart attack ::)
"...in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
I dont really see that as a threat - he could be insinuating that Obama would lock everyone like him up for his beliefs? Theres a million things that could mean.
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you don't go to jail for having a heart attack ::)
"...in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
Yeah, I can see Obama having Ted whacked...or stuck in a cell.
Good call making it public.
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Will the Secret Service hold Louis Farrakhan to the same standard?
Hell no.
::)
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Will the Secret Service hold Louis Farrakhan to the same standard?
Hell no.
::)
Yes, he's been investigated many times by the Secret Service for comments he's made about numerous past presidents.
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It's fairly ridiculous to investigate such "threats" but the fact is that the Secret Service is obligated to investigate all threats, no matter how oblique, veiled, tangential or even ridiculous. They do this regardless of which party the President belongs to even when it's plainly obvious that there's really nothing to investigate.
Beyond the Ted Nugent ridiculousness, a quick search turned up the following examples of obvioulsy bogus and dumb "investigations"; I'm sure there's more:
Eminem was investigated for a lyric in a song, which, out of an abundance of caution, I'm not going to reproduce. You can find out the details here: http://www.wnd.com/2003/12/22150/ (http://www.wnd.com/2003/12/22150/)
A highschooler was investigated for thumbtacking a picture of President George W. Bush on the wall (the thumbtack was red, if it matters) and photographing her hand making a "thumbs down" sign next to the picture. More here: http://progressive.org/mag_mc100405 (http://progressive.org/mag_mc100405)
It's one thing to take threats seriously, but these guys crank it way past 11 and take it to a whole 'nother level. Perhaps they need to get laid more often? ;D
Will the Secret Service hold Louis Farrakhan to the same standard?
Hell no.
::)
Ugh, Louis Farrakhan... :-X what a piece of shit. But to correct your answer to yourself, they would and have done so.
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I dont really see that as a threat - he could be insinuating that Obama would lock everyone like him up for his beliefs? Theres a million things that could mean.
so you don't think statements made like he made should even be investigated by the SS? Really? They should just stick to looking at people who come right out and say it?
this is Ted Nugent we're talking about. He knows full well what his words suggested and knowing him, that's exactly what he wanted it to mean. Thousands of people are looked at each year for statements like this, I don't think Nugent should have some special immunity for excuses. Nothing happens to most people who are questioned anyway. He'll just have to tell them what he meant. For him that probably means lying lol...
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so you don't think statements made like he made should even be investigated by the SS? Really? They should just stick to looking at people who come right out and say it?
I think that it's reasonable for them to investigate things and to me, the Nugent statement is a bit of a grey area - at the border of what should and shouldn't be investigated; if you ask me, I'd say "err on the side of caution" even though I don't think Nugent intended his words as a threat.
The problem that I have is that they routinely go way, way, way overboard. Another example of the ridiculousness, to add to the above two I posted, is the investigation and interrogation of a 13-year old child at school. Details here: http://digitallife.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/18/6667233-secret-service-interrogates-13-year-old-over-facebook-post (http://digitallife.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/18/6667233-secret-service-interrogates-13-year-old-over-facebook-post). I think this case is particularly egregious in that the Agents pulled a child out of the classroom, and interrogated him without the consent or even the knowledge of the child's parents.
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Nugent: Secret Service satisfied comments did not threaten Obama
LA Times ^ | 4/19/2012 | Michael A. Memoli
Rocker Ted Nugent said he had an amicable meeting with the Secret Service on Thursday, seemingly ending the dustup over controversial comments Nugent made at the National Rifle Assn. convention earlier this week.
Nugent, a longtime conservative and NRA board member who endorsed Mitt Romney for the Republican presidential nomination, had Democrats howling after comments in which he described the Obama administration as "vile, evil and America hating."
If Obama won reelection, Nugent said he "will either be dead or in jail," and also called on conservatives to "ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November."
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
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Ted Nugent is just like every other right winger douche nozzle
They are loudmouths when they have their guns and pussies the rest of the time
Nugent has been a nutbag since the time he shit his pants to get out of the draft (classic move by a true patriot)
I personally hope Nugent's proclamation comes true and that he is either dead or in jail this time next year
my preference would be dead so that we don't have to spend any money on him
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Ted Nugent is just like every other right winger douche nozzle
They are loudmouths when they have their guns and pussies the rest of the time
Nugent has been a nutbag since the time he shit his pants to get out of the draft (classic move by a true patriot)
I personally hope Nugent's proclamation comes true and that he is either dead or in jail this time next year
my preference would be dead so that we don't have to spend any money on him
that is true he shit his pants,i couldn't believe it
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I thought this guy died of cat scratch fever years ago.
Sometimes you're not irritating and you actually post funny stuff!!! ;D
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so you don't think statements made like he made should even be investigated by the SS? Really? They should just stick to looking at people who come right out and say it?
this is Ted Nugent we're talking about. He knows full well what his words suggested and knowing him, that's exactly what he wanted it to mean. Thousands of people are looked at each year for statements like this, I don't think Nugent should have some special immunity for excuses. Nothing happens to most people who are questioned anyway. He'll just have to tell them what he meant. For him that probably means lying lol...
Eh.... I think they need to consider the source and the context. Like AVXO said its a grey area. I personally think its a waste of resources over a shock statement.
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Ted Nugent is just like every other right winger douche nozzle
They are loudmouths when they have their guns and pussies the rest of the time
Nugent has been a nutbag since the time he shit his pants to get out of the draft (classic move by a true patriot)
I personally hope Nugent's proclamation comes true and that he is either dead or in jail this time next year
my preference would be dead so that we don't have to spend any money on him
He's an entertainer just like the "douche nozzles" Bill Maher and Chris Matthews.
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He's an entertainer just like the "douche nozzles" Bill Maher and Chris Matthews.
Except for the fact that they don't act super hardcore after shitting their pants to avoid war.
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Except for the fact that they don't act super hardcore after shitting their pants to avoid war.
That does make me lol. Especially when he talks about "riding into the battlefield in November".
Ive noticed civilians love to talk about "going to war", or "going to battle", cant forget the whole "street soldier".
Ive also noticed most of those people are wannabe hardcore homo's that would NEVER actually sign up and fight (unless it's with their "nine" gunning down some granny)
Epic fail.
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Except for the fact that they don't act super hardcore after shitting their pants to avoid war.
I can't see either of those guys having the balls to serve in a time of war. I'd put a gun to my head and take the bet that Tingles for sure would be across the Canadian border quicker than it takes for you to suck off your favorite NFL team.
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http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/romney-supporter-nugent-admitted-multiple-a
Mitt should have looked at this before accepting that endorsement. Nugent admits in a 1998 interview he used to bang underage girls as often as possible while in his 30s.
The statute of limitations has run out as far as it being felony sex crimes. But still, romney doesn't want that.
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I can't see either of those guys having the balls to serve in a time of war. I'd put a gun to my head and take the bet that Tingles for sure would be across the Canadian border quicker than it takes for you to suck off your favorite NFL team.
Maybe so. But they don't act tough all the time. That was my point.
By the way, I've noticed you've devolved into insults and accusations like your good buddy.
I know, I know. I'm a gay traitor. But you're obviously a super tough patriot, so sorry to rain on your parade.
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I can't see either of those guys having the balls to serve in a time of war.
Out of curiosity, can you see yourself having the balls to serve in a time of war? Or would you, if push came to shove, be sitting on a couch, chugging Molson Canadian and preparing for the Queen's birthday?
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Out of curiosity, can you see yourself having the balls to serve in a time of war? Or would you, if push came to shove, be sitting on a couch, chugging Molson Canadian and preparing for the Queen's birthday?
I've been in a war.
Don't ever want to be in another.
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Army Cancels Ted Nugent Show
Citing inflammatory language while expressing his displeasure with President Barack Obama, the military has uninvited rock star and conservative political activist Ted Nugent from performing at Fort Knox in Kentucky, according to the U.S. Army post’s Facebook page.
“After learning of opening act Ted Nugent’s recent public comments about the president of the United States, Fort Knox leadership decided to cancel his performance on the installation," it's Facebook posting says.
So far, the June 23 concert remains on the Fort Knox schedule, with REO Speedwagon and Styx listed as “co-headliners,” but army personnel said they will grant requests for refunds in light of their decision to nix the opening act.
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Army Cancels Ted Nugent Show
Citing inflammatory language while expressing his displeasure with President Barack Obama, the military has uninvited rock star and conservative political activist Ted Nugent from performing at Fort Knox in Kentucky, according to the U.S. Army post’s Facebook page.
“After learning of opening act Ted Nugent’s recent public comments about the president of the United States, Fort Knox leadership decided to cancel his performance on the installation," it's Facebook posting says.
So far, the June 23 concert remains on the Fort Knox schedule, with REO Speedwagon and Styx listed as “co-headliners,” but army personnel said they will grant requests for refunds in light of their decision to nix the opening act.
What a bunch of crap. I thought the military was not supposed to politicize itself? Cause thats kind of what they just did.
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:). No one dare ever say a word imam obama. Fuck obama and every waste of life supporting him.
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What a bunch of crap. I thought the military was not supposed to politicize itself? Cause thats kind of what they just did.
When you criticize "The Commander In Chief" that's what happens. Kanye West was banned from performing for the military after his comments about Bush not caring about black people.
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When you criticize "The Commander In Chief" that's what happens. Kanye West was banned from performing for the military after his comments about Bush not caring about black people.
Eh, at least theyre consistent I guess. Still dont think one's personal political opinions should affect their peformance to Military members (as long as he his politics to himself while performing).
For them to not allow someone who critizes the POTUS not to perform, thats basically them politicizing the military.
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Not for nothing. BUT. If I were military in Afghanistan or. Iraq I want slayer metallica megadeth exodus ice t etc, not a bunch of pansies.
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Eh, at least theyre consistent I guess. Still dont think one's personal political opinions should affect their peformance to Military members (as long as he his politics to himself while performing).
For them to not allow someone who critizes the POTUS not to perform, thats basically them politicizing the military.
If you insult their leader then absolutely. Fact of the matter is that Obama was elected to his office by the will of the people and as President, he is the Commander of all US Armed Forces. Ted Nugent can go perform somewhere else....but definitely not the military because he does not respect the office.
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If you insult their leader then absolutely. Fact of the matter is that Obama was elected to his office by the will of the people and as President, he is the Commander of all US Armed Forces. Ted Nugent can go perform somewhere else....but definitely not the military because he does not respect the office.
What are you talking about?
Their allegiance is to the Republic, to the people, not to the person that holds office. Thats how dictators are born. You can respect the office but hate the person in charge, thats what makes our system different from the other shithole dictatorial countries, the fact that we dont HAVE to respect the person in office. Thats what the miltary is all about. By doing this, theyre saying that because someone doesnt like the person in office he's not fit to play for those that defend it, which is bullshit.
Like I said, theyre politicizing the military doing things like this. He's an entertainer, not an active duty military member, and his personal feelings on the POTUS shouldnt prevent him from playing to military members. Thats a political move, and its BS.
Like I said, our allegience lies to the Republic, to the people, NOT to the person in the office.
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I read that a lot of military soldiers are pulling out and demanding refunds since Ted got booted.
military needs slayer Metallica biohazard hate breed , exodus , megadeth, etc, not a bunch of commie pussies
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I read that a lot of military soldiers are pulling out and demanding refunds since Ted got booted.
military needs slayer Metallica biohazard hate breed , exodus , megadeth, etc, not a bunch of commie pussies
Yeah, during OIF 1 some of the M1's were blasting Lamb of God and Slayer while rolling down the streets. Something about the devil music being blasted from the tanks scared the shit outta the Iraqi's
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Yeah, during OIF 1 some of the M1's were blasting Lamb of God and Slayer while rolling down the streets. Something about the devil music being blasted from the tanks scared the shit outta the Iraqi's
Lamb of god is fucking great. I have every album. Hard to pick which I like best. burn the priest is great, but I always come back to the entire Sacrament album. There is that song on Sacrament called Again We Rise and at the end I keep saying "FUCK YOU" along w the song and people near me are horrified.
Saw them at Ozzfest a few years ago. GREAT! slayer is my fav of all time bar none, but lamb of god is awesome. from black label on american gospel to the present, they are. Awesome
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What are you talking about?
Their allegiance is to the Republic, to the people, not to the person that holds office. Thats how dictators are born. You can respect the office but hate the person in charge, thats what makes our system different from the other shithole dictatorial countries, the fact that we dont HAVE to respect the person in office. Thats what the miltary is all about. By doing this, theyre saying that because someone doesnt like the person in office he's not fit to play for those that defend it, which is bullshit.
Like I said, theyre politicizing the military doing things like this. He's an entertainer, not an active duty military member, and his personal feelings on the POTUS shouldnt prevent him from playing to military members. Thats a political move, and its BS.
Like I said, our allegience lies to the Republic, to the people, NOT to the person in the office.
Actually the military's allegiance is also to the President of the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution
But to be clear....the President runs the Armed Forces and if you go out there and shit on him, then you have to accept the consequences of your actions. There's nothing political about that. Ted Nugent isn't performing for the Army because he insulted the Commander of those forces....
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No it's not you sick fvk! It's t the USC.
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Actually the military's allegiance is also to the President of the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution
But to be clear....the President runs the Armed Forces and if you go out there and shit on him, then you have to accept the consequences of your actions. There's nothing political about that. Ted Nugent isn't performing for the Army because he insulted the Commander of those forces....
Their allegience is supposed to be to the office. Not the person thats currently occupying the office. I know you love to say that no one can insult the POTUS without paying the price, but thats exactly what the founding fathers didnt want. They didnt want blind allegience, they didnt want us to be punished for speaking out against our government.
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Ted is a loose cannon. People go to concerts to hear good music. I remember watching KISS a few years back. Ted opened for them. I love his music, but had to listen to 20 minute lectures between songs about his personal political views. I could not care less what his personal political views are and as insulting as many of them were to some in the crowd, I can see the military not wanting to be connected to him. Good call on their part as far as I'm concerned. Just play your music and keep your political opinions to yourself.
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Ted is a loose cannon. People go to concerts to hear good music. I remember watching KISS a few years back. Ted opened for them. I love his music, but had to listen to 20 minute lectures between songs about his personal political views. I could not care less what his personal political views are and as insulting as many of them were to some in the crowd, I can see the military not wanting to be connected to him. Good call on their part as far as I'm concerned. Just play your music and keep your political opinions to yourself.
I think that goes without saying, especially playing for the military.
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Ted is a loose cannon. People go to concerts to hear good music. I remember watching KISS a few years back. Ted opened for them. I love his music, but had to listen to 20 minute lectures between songs about his personal political views. I could not care less what his personal political views are and as insulting as many of them were to some in the crowd, I can see the military not wanting to be connected to him. Good call on their part as far as I'm concerned. Just play your music and keep your political opinions to yourself.
What did he say?
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What did he say?
he was all over the place.. anti-democratic slurs, used the term "wetback" a few times, said "for those of you who can't understand what I'm saying, speak english or get the fuc* out of the country (Austin Texas has a pretty significant hispanic population)
Again, we can discuss politics and whatnot all day long, but when I pay good money to watch a concert, I really don't care to hear a one sided tirade from either side.. Similar experience with Crosby, Stills and Nash, though they can make a better case for the tie in of their music messages to their talk, and they make an attempt to be articulate. But I'd rather just hear the music
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I thought this guy died of cat scratch fever years ago.
I always heard he got the Aids from someones Wango Tango
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The more you look into the guy known as Ted Nugent, the more he's looking like a government COINTELPRO. Every single move he's made in his life was/is to get a reaction from the people. The CIA took over the music industry decades ago. It looks like Ted Nugent has been on a mission since jump street.