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Ala fat slob at work that calls a large bag of Doritos 'lunch'.
Spoke to one of our accounts girls about NOT wanting children. It just sorta came up in conversation. She says I'm being selfish to the world and what if everyone thought like I do? There will be no more human race with 200 years. She also ask whether or not I cared about the human race and its future. Truth be told, not really. When I'm dead I luckily won't leave anyone behind so really, what do I care if we're hit by a ELE comet or likewise catastrophe?
What say Getbig? Do we all need to produce screaming little fucks that only cost time and money and ties you down. Do we have that responsibility to the world?
What about my mom? You all wanna do her? :D
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There are A LOT of other ways to contribute to the world and future without having kids.
Basically, this person (girl at your job) has realized that she can find no other way in life to give to the world, therefore she just has kids. Its simple, it only takes a few minutes and a man. She pops out a few kids, she feels special, she has now given the world something in return. But alas, she stays up at night thinking is there any more she can give to the world besides just a few children.
Maybe she feels like punching numbers all day is a meaningless and devoid task, and cant seem to find a deep meaning with doing someones taxes.
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Actually if more people felt like you do, the world would be better off 200 years from now. Our over-population and over-consumption of the world's resources is going to be more and more of an issue.
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Actually if more people felt like you do, the world would be better off 200 years from now. Our over-population and over-consumption of the world's resources is going to be more and more of an issue.
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To bad the trash outbreeds the better people :-\
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Actually if more people felt like you do, the world would be better off 200 years from now. Our over-population and over-consumption of the world's resources is going to be more and more of an issue.
Not really, it'll be worse off. It's Africans, Middle Eastern and other 3rd world strains that keep shitting them out. Exactly the types you DON'T need. There's only so much space in the Western worlds before it sunk into a decrepit pit like where all the immigrants come from. Intelligent people don't have more kids that they can't afford. Ethnics (in general, so I can generalise) and morons in general keep dropping them and then sit on an ash heap begging for handouts. Their spawns more than likely go and do the same while the good kind of person get less and less.
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To bad the trash outbreeds the better people :-\
Not really, it'll be worse off. It's Africans, Middle Eastern and other 3rd world strains that keep shitting them out. Exactly the types you DON'T need. There's only so much space in the Western worlds before it sunk into a decrepit pit like where all the immigrants come from. Intelligent people don't have more kids that they can't afford. Ethnics (in general, so I can generalise) and morons in general keep dropping them and then sit on an ash heap begging for handouts. Their spawns more than likely go and do the same while the good kind of person get less and less.
You guys are right, but I think that the more intelligent groups will still come out on top just like it is now.
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Ala fat slob at work that calls a large bag of Doritos 'lunch'.
Spoke to one of our accounts girls about NOT wanting children. It just sorta came up in conversation. She says I'm being selfish to the world and what if everyone thought like I do? There will be no more human race with 200 years. She also ask whether or not I cared about the human race and its future.
So I inseminated her.
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Ala fat slob at work that calls a large bag of Doritos 'lunch'.
Spoke to one of our accounts girls about NOT wanting children. It just sorta came up in conversation. She says I'm being selfish to the world and what if everyone thought like I do? There will be no more human race with 200 years. She also ask whether or not I cared about the human race and its future. Truth be told, not really. When I'm dead I luckily won't leave anyone behind so really, what do I care if we're hit by a ELE comet or likewise catastrophe?
What say Getbig? Do we all need to produce screaming little fucks that only cost time and money and ties you down. Do we have that responsibility to the world?
What about my mom? You all wanna do her? :D
You got me interested .....pm me a picture .... 8)
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The world would be far better off without humans! Breeders Shit me!
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The basic function of us humans is to reproduce. To keep the species going on.
I think life without kids would be empty and without a meaning. To me, reproducing is the ultimate explanation of our existence. we as humans are nothing but a one specie among others on this Earth.
Personally I have a lot more aspirations than just having children... but when I have completed enough of them, I for sure will have children.
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The world would be far better off without humans! Breeders Shit me!
Inb4 pitbull rant.
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You got me interested .....pm me a picture .... 8)
LOL
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Have you not met your life partner then?
Once you do it will be a natural progression to want to have children.
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She says I'm being selfish to the world and what if everyone thought like I do? There will be no more human race with 200 years.
I totally agree with her
We need more unselfish and unconditionally loving people like the octomom.
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At some point a real man wants to pass on his alpha genetics, no?
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having children is a natural thing. and being a litlle older than most here, I can tell you this....Most of the people and couples I know that chose not to have children in their 20s and 30s.. regret it now, big time.
I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince anyone otherwise, but let's see how you feel when you're 50 , and you don't go clubbing anymore, all of your friends have families and you really don't hear from them much anymore. and you spend the majority of your life alone in front of a television...while the rest of us "assholes" are watching our kids grow up to be their own person, spending time with them, and enjoying it.
I LIKE my kid..I don't just love her cuz I'm her Dad...she's funny as shit, intelligent and a very good person., and she's my blood .....I look forward to seeing her. She doesn't "drag me down"...she lifts me up.
95% of the guys here that say they "never" are going to have children...will have children ;)
my own brother chose not to have children. And he's a great guy with a good wife. He's smart, VERY successful and seemingly has it all in spades..and every we get to talking about it he tells me he fucked up and wishes my Daughter had a first cousin.
You know what people without kids always have.?..Dogs. and they spoil the shit out of them, and treat them like they are kids
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having children is a natural thing. and being a litlle older than most here, I can tell you this....Most of the people and couples I know that chose not to have children in their 20s and 30s.. regret it now, big time.
I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince anyone otherwise, but let's see how you feel when you're 50 , and you don't go clubbing anymore, all of your friends have families and you really don't hear from them much anymore. and you spend the majority of your life alone in front of a television...while the rest of us "assholes" are watching our kids grow up to be their own person, spending time with them, and enjoying it.
I LIKE my kid..I don't just love her cuz I'm her Dad...she's funny as shit, intelligent and a very good person., and she's my blood .....I look forward to seeing her. She doesn't "drag me down"...she lifts me up.
95% of the guys here that say they "never" are going to have children...will have children ;)
how old a man are you Groink?
I agree with everything you said BTW.
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The world would be far better off without humans! Breeders Shit me!
Alot of people take shits like you, what's your point ???
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The basic function of us humans is to reproduce. To keep the species going on.
I think life without kids would be empty and without a meaning. To me, reproducing is the ultimate explanation of our existence. we as humans are nothing but a one specie among others on this Earth.
Personally I have a lot more aspirations than just having children... but when I have completed enough of them, I for sure will have children.
Self-perpetuation is a reason for existence? Might want to think a little harder about that one.
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my own brother chose not to have children. And he's a great guy with a good wife. He's smart, VERY successful and seemingly has it all in spades..and every we get to talking about it he tells me he fucked up and wishes my Daughter had a first cousin.
You know what people without kids always have.?..Dogs. and they spoil the shit out of them, and treat them like they are kids
My
Your brother can't have a child anymore? Even if his wife is past childbearing age now, they are still plenty other options, especially for a person who as you say is very successful.
Don't diminish the importance of pets. They've long been used in therapy to alleviate symptoms of intractable illness.
Not to mention most people who have kids at a young age think that having a child will be no different than having a dog
I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince anyone otherwise, but let's see how you feel when you're 50 , and you don't go clubbing anymore, all of your friends have families and you really don't hear from them much anymore. and you spend the majority of your life alone in front of a television...while the rest of us "assholes" are watching our kids grow up to be their own person, spending time with them, and enjoying it.
At that age if I'm still a bachelor, I expect I'll be doing the finest quality soft drugs, engaging in BDSM with expensive London prostitutes, going to concerts and plays and visiting foreign countries every few months (using the considerable money saved from being childless) ;D
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What's wrong with being (truly) selfish?
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selfish people go to heaven
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I don't have any desire or plans to reproduce.
Some of my friends that are about as intelligent as a dog have decided that children are the only impact they can leave on this world, so they have them.... and are terrible fathers.
People don't realize that having a kid is a huge responsibility if you do it right. It is really easy to have a kid and not give a shit, which is what most people seem to do these days.
I don't give a shit about the human race continuing. If I am dead (and so was everyone else), there would be no one here to care.
I don't need kids... I have enough hobbies and interests to keep me busy, I will never be the type to rot away lonely in front of a TV.
My aunt and uncle have no kids, they are in their 50's.... and they seem to really enjoy their lives.
I don't care much for kids, they don't interest me. I prefer having money and free time. My wife and I will be 30 next month. We have traveled so much compared to our friends that have kids. We seem to be able to enjoy a lot of things that they don't because of financial and time restraints brought on by their offspring.
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Inb4 pitbull rant.
lol
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I don't have any desire or plans to reproduce.
Some of my friends that are about as intelligent as a dog have decided that children are the only impact they can leave on this world, so they have them.... and are terrible fathers.
People don't realize that having a kid is a huge responsibility if you do it right. It is really easy to have a kid and not give a shit, which is what most people seem to do these days.
I don't give a shit about the human race continuing. If I am dead (and so was everyone else), there would be no one here to care.
I don't need kids... I have enough hobbies and interests to keep me busy, I will never be the type to rot away lonely in front of a TV.
My aunt and uncle have no kids, they are in their 50's.... and they seem to really enjoy their lives.
I don't care much for kids, they don't interest me. I prefer having money and free time. My wife and I will be 30 next month. We have traveled so much compared to our friends that have kids. We seem to be able to enjoy a lot of things that they don't because of financial and time restraints brought on by their offspring.
I felt the same exact way when I was 29...Talk to me in 5 years
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having children is a natural thing. and being a litlle older than most here, I can tell you this....Most of the people and couples I know that chose not to have children in their 20s and 30s.. regret it now, big time.
I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince anyone otherwise, but let's see how you feel when you're 50 , and you don't go clubbing anymore, all of your friends have families and you really don't hear from them much anymore. and you spend the majority of your life alone in front of a television...while the rest of us "assholes" are watching our kids grow up to be their own person, spending time with them, and enjoying it.
I LIKE my kid..I don't just love her cuz I'm her Dad...she's funny as shit, intelligent and a very good person., and she's my blood .....I look forward to seeing her. She doesn't "drag me down"...she lifts me up.
95% of the guys here that say they "never" are going to have children...will have children ;)
my own brother chose not to have children. And he's a great guy with a good wife. He's smart, VERY successful and seemingly has it all in spades..and every we get to talking about it he tells me he fucked up and wishes my Daughter had a first cousin.
You know what people without kids always have.?..Dogs. and they spoil the shit out of them, and treat them like they are kids
My
Why stop clubbin at age 50? Keep banging hoes til you die.
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i have ten little guy falcons
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Self-perpetuation is a reason for existence? Might want to think a little harder about that one.
Trust me. I have thought this quit a bit recently; "what is the purpose of human life".
well, I came to conclusion:
I can't probably make anything really remarkable that people world wide would read from history books decades later.
So only way for us regular guys to contribute is to have children.
Please, tell your view on the subject.
I'm always eager to learn and to listen new thoughts from people. And this question still bothers me from time to time.
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having children is a natural thing. and being a litlle older than most here, I can tell you this....Most of the people and couples I know that chose not to have children in their 20s and 30s.. regret it now, big time.
I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince anyone otherwise, but let's see how you feel when you're 50 , and you don't go clubbing anymore, all of your friends have families and you really don't hear from them much anymore. and you spend the majority of your life alone in front of a television...while the rest of us "assholes" are watching our kids grow up to be their own person, spending time with them, and enjoying it.
I LIKE my kid..I don't just love her cuz I'm her Dad...she's funny as shit, intelligent and a very good person., and she's my blood .....I look forward to seeing her. She doesn't "drag me down"...she lifts me up.
95% of the guys here that say they "never" are going to have children...will have children ;)
my own brother chose not to have children. And he's a great guy with a good wife. He's smart, VERY successful and seemingly has it all in spades..and every we get to talking about it he tells me he fucked up and wishes my Daughter had a first cousin.
You know what people without kids always have.?..Dogs. and they spoil the shit out of them, and treat them like they are kids
My
All the people I know who had kids regret it - not having kids doesn't make you happier, just calmer, richer and free. Why anyone would want to introduce another being to a planet in meltdown is beyond me, I just see parenting as a narcissistic extension of ones self, not a decision made in the hope of bringing in a life-force, nurturing, supporting, loving it to maturity - Most people just breed because they can, and then continue to semi neglect the child for 18 years and then wonder why there kids hate them. Breeding for breeding sake is sick, there are 6.9 billion oxygen thieves on the planet, does it really need one more.
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You won't be around in 5 years after you wife takes you for half, full custody, and child support and you end up getting treated like a criminal in the divorce courts.
She will use your steroid use against you and the court system will eat it up. You better be careful. The courts see no difference between a steroid user and a meth addict.
She's not an Americano. My chances of marital success have now skyrocketed based on this piece of data.
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richer
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She's not an Americano. My chances of marital success have now skyrocketed based on this piece of data.
Only if you don't live in America yes
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All the people I know who had kids regret it - not having kids doesn't make you happier, just calmer, richer and free. Why anyone would want to introduce another being to a planet in meltdown is beyond me, I just see parenting as a narcissistic extension of ones self, not a decision made in the hope of bringing in a life-force, nurturing, supporting, loving it to maturity - Most people just breed because they can, and then continue to semi neglect the child for 18 years and then wonder why there kids hate them. Breeding for breeding sake is sick, there are 6.9 billion oxygen thieves on the planet, does it really need one more.
i'm sure EVERY person you know who has children has confided in you, and said they wish they never had children, because that happens all the time ::)
and you're including yourself as one of those "oxygen thieves" right ? and your parents shouldn't have given birth to you?
Don't worry....I'm not expecting an honest answer
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i'm sure EVERY person you know who has children has confided in you, and said they wish they never had children, because that happens all the time ::)
and you're including yourself as one of those "oxygen thieves" right ? and your parents shouldn't have given birth to you?
Don't worry....I'm not expecting an honest answer
Most people that have had kids (esp. these who had more than one) seem miserable, but that may be just my subjective evaluation. Most people generally doesn't know what they want out of life so they "go with the flow" and expect the best (I mean - they doesn't know any better, afterall). Not that kids are the worst thing in the world, but - they by no means "must" be the best thing.
I may have one (or even two) just if I'll love my partner enough (and if she'll insist on having 'em). I can very well acknowledge natural urge to have kids with a female one loves, but as a rational person I can "flip" very fast to a state that enables to evaluate such an urge from a logical standpoint (most people have kids out of EMOTIONAL decision. But again - most people are reactive, not analytical) and that enables me to actually chose (not just fall for a jard wiring in the genome). Just like using a condom. It's nice to have sex, but it doesn't mean kids must be a result.
And if you think that all childless people sit in front of the tv all day than there's something not good with the choices of activities and general interests in life in your case (or so I would think). At the very least - these people can find other people just like them and do plenty of stuff together. That's actually what I can witness very often amongst the people I know that doesn't have kids.
Being selfish in this case may be very fulfilling, and generally - there's nothing to be ashamed of about being selfish. Finally - not having kids is NOT selfish at all, that's ridiculous. The most selfish thing is to let a new life in this fucked up world that may end up in a very bad place if the circumstances (or gene mutation) goes wrong. But, as I said - people are reactive, they doesn't analyse usually, at least - not deep enoug.
If someone has created enough meaning in their lives, there may very well be no empty space for such a demanding activity as raising kid.
Once again - I may have 'em, but I hope my female will take care of most of the stuff related, as life is way too interesting for me personally in many many other ways.
To answer the last question for another poster - I personally don't give a shit about my parenst giving me a life, I'm not grateful or anything at all, it was their selifish reasons and they had more or less pleasure out of that, I wouldn't give a shit if they wouldn't ve gave me it (logically), and there's a big chance I'll hate them for that if I'll manage to live to an old age (which is hopefully not true) and experience a denegeration that's called "aging", illness and other stuff that begins when our epigenomics drift from the phenotype of youth.
p.s. - the worst thing you can say is "oh, wait till you are my age". It's a camouflaged way to tell a person "You are too dumb to understand YET, but you may get it some time..". The case may be that a given person just have a different experience of "life" than you, simple as that.
Hope this helps.
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having children is a natural thing. and being a litlle older than most here, I can tell you this....Most of the people and couples I know that chose not to have children in their 20s and 30s.. regret it now, big time.
I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince anyone otherwise, but let's see how you feel when you're 50 , and you don't go clubbing anymore, all of your friends have families and you really don't hear from them much anymore. and you spend the majority of your life alone in front of a television...while the rest of us "assholes" are watching our kids grow up to be their own person, spending time with them, and enjoying it.
I LIKE my kid..I don't just love her cuz I'm her Dad...she's funny as shit, intelligent and a very good person., and she's my blood .....I look forward to seeing her. She doesn't "drag me down"...she lifts me up.
95% of the guys here that say they "never" are going to have children...will have children ;)
my own brother chose not to have children. And he's a great guy with a good wife. He's smart, VERY successful and seemingly has it all in spades..and every we get to talking about it he tells me he fucked up and wishes my Daughter had a first cousin.
You know what people without kids always have.?..Dogs. and they spoil the shit out of them, and treat them like they are kids
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spot on
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Lots of untermenschen floating around here. If you don't reproduce you genetics don't survive making you a genetic failur.
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Lots of untermenschen floating around here. If you don't reproduce you genetics don't survive making you a genetic failur.
Pretty sure life isn't a zero-sum game. Cripes.
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Most people that have had kids (esp. these who had more than one) seem miserable, but that may be just my subjective evaluation. Most people generally doesn't know what they want out of life so they "go with the flow" and expect the best (I mean - they doesn't know any better, afterall). Not that kids are the worst thing in the world, but - they by no means "must" be the best thing.
I may have one (or even two) just if I'll love my partner enough (and if she'll insist on having 'em). I can very well acknowledge natural urge to have kids with a female one loves, but as a rational person I can "flip" very fast to a state that enables to evaluate such an urge from a logical standpoint (most people have kids out of EMOTIONAL decision. But again - most people are reactive, not analytical) and that enables me to actually chose (not just fall for a jard wiring in the genome). Just like using a condom. It's nice to have sex, but it doesn't mean kids must be a result.
And if you think that all childless people sit in front of the tv all day than there's something not good with the choices of activities and general interests in life in your case (or so I would think). At the very least - these people can find other people just like them and do plenty of stuff together. That's actually what I can witness very often amongst the people I know that doesn't have kids.
Being selfish in this case may be very fulfilling, and generally - there's nothing to be ashamed of about being selfish. Finally - not having kids is NOT selfish at all, that's ridiculous. The most selfish thing is to let a new life in this fucked up world that may end up in a very bad place if the circumstances (or gene mutation) goes wrong. But, as I said - people are reactive, they doesn't analyse usually, at least - not deep enoug.
If someone has created enough meaning in their lives, there may very well be no empty space for such a demanding activity as raising kid.
Once again - I may have 'em, but I hope my female will take care of most of the stuff related, as life is way too interesting for me personally in many many other ways.
To answer the last question for another poster - I personally don't give a shit about my parenst giving me a life, I'm not grateful or anything at all, it was their selifish reasons and they had more or less pleasure out of that, I wouldn't give a shit if they wouldn't ve gave me it (logically), and there's a big chance I'll hate them for that if I'll manage to live to an old age (which is hopefully not true) and experience a denegeration that's called "aging", illness and other stuff that begins when our epigenomics drift from the phenotype of youth.
p.s. - the worst thing you can say is "oh, wait till you are my age". It's a camouflaged way to tell a person "You are too dumb to understand YET, but you may get it some time..". The case may be that a given person just have a different experience of "life" than you, simple as that.
Hope this helps.
Not at all....it's a simple fact as you get older, your view on this subject changes. You're a young guy...and your viewpoint is to be expected. People get very defensive about this I've noticed
again....let's see how many of you don't have children when you are over 35 or 40. One way or another, it just happens. that's life. Talk to most guys in their 20s, or early30s, and tney will say some variation of what you are saying..and yet the human race somehow manages to go on. Someone is having kids
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Most people that have had kids (esp. these who had more than one) seem miserable, but that may be just my subjective evaluation. Most people generally doesn't know what they want out of life so they "go with the flow" and expect the best (I mean - they doesn't know any better, afterall). Not that kids are the worst thing in the world, but - they by no means "must" be the best thing.
I may have one (or even two) just if I'll love my partner enough (and if she'll insist on having 'em). I can very well acknowledge natural urge to have kids with a female one loves, but as a rational person I can "flip" very fast to a state that enables to evaluate such an urge from a logical standpoint (most people have kids out of EMOTIONAL decision. But again - most people are reactive, not analytical) and that enables me to actually chose (not just fall for a jard wiring in the genome). Just like using a condom. It's nice to have sex, but it doesn't mean kids must be a result.
And if you think that all childless people sit in front of the tv all day than there's something not good with the choices of activities and general interests in life in your case (or so I would think). At the very least - these people can find other people just like them and do plenty of stuff together. That's actually what I can witness very often amongst the people I know that doesn't have kids.
Being selfish in this case may be very fulfilling, and generally - there's nothing to be ashamed of about being selfish. Finally - not having kids is NOT selfish at all, that's ridiculous. The most selfish thing is to let a new life in this fucked up world that may end up in a very bad place if the circumstances (or gene mutation) goes wrong. But, as I said - people are reactive, they doesn't analyse usually, at least - not deep enoug.
If someone has created enough meaning in their lives, there may very well be no empty space for such a demanding activity as raising kid.
Once again - I may have 'em, but I hope my female will take care of most of the stuff related, as life is way too interesting for me personally in many many other ways.
To answer the last question for another poster - I personally don't give a shit about my parenst giving me a life, I'm not grateful or anything at all, it was their selifish reasons and they had more or less pleasure out of that, I wouldn't give a shit if they wouldn't ve gave me it (logically), and there's a big chance I'll hate them for that if I'll manage to live to an old age (which is hopefully not true) and experience a denegeration that's called "aging", illness and other stuff that begins when our epigenomics drift from the phenotype of youth.
p.s. - the worst thing you can say is "oh, wait till you are my age". It's a camouflaged way to tell a person "You are too dumb to understand YET, but you may get it some time..". The case may be that a given person just have a different experience of "life" than you, simple as that.
Hope this helps.
well said.
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Not at all....it's a simple fact as you get older, your view on this subject changes. You're a young guy...and your viewpoint is to be expected. People get very defensive about this I've noticed
again....let's see how many of you don't have children when you are over 35 or 40. One way or another, it just happens. that's life. Talk to most guys in their 20s, or early30s, and tney will say some variation of what you are saying..and yet the human race somehow manages to go on. Someone is having kids
If by "this" you mean - the way to tell someone "will realize IT sooner or later" (doesn't mean what's that "it" is) than I can assure you that there've been plenty of occasions already where I've heard that from other people who were older than me (at whatever age I was) and I haven't accepeted their point of view on many things.
The proper way to say that would be - I have this subjective experience of life and it may turn out that you will end up with a similar experience and than maybe you'll get what am I saying. The key word is MAY.
Plenty of childless people by choice, I guess you just don't want to acknowledge that somewhy (as I personally don't even dismiss that possibility at all. Tho as C.Lagerfeld said once "I don't believe in fatherhood". Motherhood - yes, fatherhood - even in nature it's rare. And we're no longer "just" animals, driven purely by hard wiring of genome.).
I personally know a one fella very well.. Two kids, tho' he hasn't payed his full attention a single day (almost literally) to them as he just... well - doesn't give a shit.
My reason for kids would be a female that I'd like to keep around enough. Otherwise - I want to live myself, lol, I don't give a shit whether my genome will be passed as I'll be dead anyway.
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The question of whether to have children transcends mere biology, and is socially and psychologically complex. However difficult the complexity, it sounds like some Getbiggers might resolve to become “bare branches,” i.e., the Chinese term for males who will not have children (because there are less women to hook up with).
On the biological level, consider that not one of any Getbigger’s ancestors were “bare branches.” Everyone here is a link in a genetic chain that goes back to the beginning of life itself. Remarkable, especially when you consider that an estimated 99.9 percent of all species have gone extinct.
On the individual level, every single one of our ancestors survived the numerous perils of life and found at least one "partner" (by whatever means only God knows) with which to have children, and so on, and so on. Here's an observation from that noted firebrand Richard Dawkins:
Of all organisms born, the majority die before they come of age. Of the minority that survive and breed, an even smaller minority will have a descendant alive a thousand generations hence. This tiny minority of a minority, this progenitorial elite, is all that future generations will be able to call ancestral. Ancestors are rare, descendants are common.
All organisms that have ever lived—every animal and plant, all bacteria and all fungi, every creeping thing, and all readers of this book—can look back at their ancestors and make the following proud claim: Not a single one of our ancestors died in infancy. They all reached adulthood, and every single one was capable of finding at least one heterosexual partner and of successfully copulating. Not a single one of our ancestors was felled by an enemy, or by a virus, or by a misjudged footstep on a cliff edge, before bringing at least one child into the world. Thousands of our ancestors' contemporaries failed in all these respects, but not a single solitary one of our ancestors failed in any of them (River Out of Eden, pp. 1-2).
Of course, the same could be said for rats and bats, dogs and hogs.
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^lagerfeld, bad example, because pretty much is pitching for the other team, and possibly had a bad father...
There are Many, Many bad parents---fathers out there. And guest who picked them to be the "father" of their kids? Hmm. The problem is, kids don't have problems, adults do.
I think there are many reasons for such a pessimistic view of kids. Bad childhood, laziness, selfishness (not wanting attention going to another, but wanting it all for themselves), the frightening aspect that one must grow up and take upon new responsibilities---money goes toward taking care of the kid, not drugs, cars, banging chicks, alcohol, and a fear of being "tied down".
I don't have kids, and I do want them---seeing my son and or daughter growing up, learning new things, teaching them new things. But, the cliche---"the world is a effed up place", starts getting too old, when you realize that, the world has always been a effed up place, and our kids could be the ones that make it a better one (less effed up place).
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Not Lagerfeld as an exmple, but the IDEA (truth as an authority, but not authority as a truth. Anyone else could've said it, it's just that I recalled him saying these words).
laziness, selfishness (not wanting attention going to another, but wanting it all for themselves),
What's so selfish about not creating more rivalry for these already alive? What's so "lazy" about having other priorities in life than kids? (do you stand "near" life so you can judge what's "right" and what's "not" or do you participate in it, like everyone else, afterall?)
the frightening aspect that one must grow up and take upon new responsibilities---money goes toward taking care of the kid, not drugs, cars, banging chicks, alcohol, and a fear of being "tied down".
What about just a generally positive lifestyle, or is it "Kids or Drugs and whores?".
I don't have kids, and I do want them---seeing my son and or daughter growing up, learning new things, teaching them new things. But, the cliche---"the world is a effed up place", starts getting too old, when you realize that, the world has always been a effed up place, and our kids could be the ones that make it a better one (less effed up place).
If you are so concerned about being "not selfish" and "not lazy" - I suggest you to adapt a few kids that are abadoned by their real parents, and not make a few more, which may turn out to be complete waste of space and resources.
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I'm glad that I didn't have a kid in my 20's
I'm glad I put my career first (partying ,traveling and fucking whores ) before having a kid.
I'm glad I have a kid right now and I wouldn't change it for anything .
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I'm glad that I didn't have a kid in my 20's
I'm glad I put my career first (partying ,traveling and fucking whores ) before having a kid.
I'm glad I have a kid right now and I wouldn't change it for anything .
Is he or she a future Getbigger? :D :D
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What's so selfish about not creating more rivalry for these already alive? What's so "lazy" about having other priorities in life than kids? (do you stand "near" life so you can judge what's "right" and what's "not" or do you participate in it, like everyone else, afterall?)
What about just a generally positive lifestyle, or is it "Kids or Drugs and whores?".
If you are so concerned about being "not selfish" and "not lazy" - I suggest you to adapt a few kids that are abadoned by their real parents, and not make a few more, which may turn out to be complete waste of space and resources.
Because, we learned skill sets or are taught them, and develop them into other priorities for the main reason of acquiring attention from others---namely females, do that we can procreate. Damn near everything we do, consciously or unconsciously is for attention to be given to us, so that it makes us better "picks"...we are Bower Birds, but on a higher more complex level.
It's been said that "to err is be human", well, so is rivalry...we are constantly in rivalry with each other. Our brothers, bosses, fathers, other men---if our fathers pussied out of "rivalry", we wouldn't be here. But, many haven't been taught right. So, the thinking, "why created more for the rivalry?", well that's just wimping out. Why try for the team, when someone else may get it? Why talk to the girl, she'll never pick me---my rival over there is better? Why ask my boss for a promotion, I'll only be seen as a rival to others?
One cannot go on with that type of thinking. I stand "in" life...but, I heed warnings, and see what others to do to "not" replicate them, and hopefully pass that down...
It's good to have a generally positive lifestyle...but it always seems that the people so adamant about not having kids, always have a damn bug up their ass about something---and that's not positive.
And it gets worse as you get older...I've seen 50-60 yr olds who have no kids talking about "I don't want to die alone", or "I wish I had kids", "you are lucky, cherish those who are around you, especially the young", I wonder why and how did they come to that conclusion...
Adopting kids of my own, good thinking---then you had to eff it up, by saying "by not making a few more that may tuen out to be a waste of space and resources"...See the negativity?
Also, who's today that the adopted kids may not turn out that way? I would hope not, but you've already made an assumption that having your own kids, and the outcome of them---you are too smart to know that their are no absolutes, and it's dangerous to clutch onto dogmas.
Hell, one could adopt a kid and he may turn out to be like Dexter, or not. But, ultimately...most would want to have their own kids, for the most selfish reason of all...their your blood, your genes, your kin...not someone elses.
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Is he or she a future Getbigger? :D :D
He is already a getbigger ,we went to a bodybuilding show 2 weeks ago when the men physique came out he said '' OMG this is so gay'' ,he said it really loud it was pretty embarrassing (true story )
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but let's see how you feel when you're 50 , and you don't go clubbing anymore, all of your friends have families and you really don't hear from them much anymore.
I think thats a moot point these days, it isnt the 50's anymore, with the advent of the internet theres never really any reason to be lonely and have to have kids to have something to do, you can find any number of activites, groups, dating sites, clubs whatever that cater to any age group.
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I don't have any desire or plans to reproduce.
Some of my friends that are about as intelligent as a dog have decided that children are the only impact they can leave on this world, so they have them.... and are terrible fathers.
People don't realize that having a kid is a huge responsibility if you do it right. It is really easy to have a kid and not give a shit, which is what most people seem to do these days.
I don't give a shit about the human race continuing. If I am dead (and so was everyone else), there would be no one here to care.
I don't need kids... I have enough hobbies and interests to keep me busy, I will never be the type to rot away lonely in front of a TV.
My aunt and uncle have no kids, they are in their 50's.... and they seem to really enjoy their lives.
I don't care much for kids, they don't interest me. I prefer having money and free time. My wife and I will be 30 next month. We have traveled so much compared to our friends that have kids. We seem to be able to enjoy a lot of things that they don't because of financial and time restraints brought on by their offspring.
I guess when youre 90 years old and all your friends have died you will ring and ask your travels to pick you some milk up from the supermarket. Ill ring my children, guess you will be having your coffee black! ;D
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If you look around you see a fair amount of people, with kids, who should not reproduce but did it anyway. People who are not capable to raise kids should not have kids.
Lots of untermenschen floating around here. If you don't reproduce you genetics don't survive making you a genetic failur.
You should think before you post utter nonsense.
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Genghis Khan, evolutionary winner. ;D
1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/08/1-in-200-men-direct-descendants-of-genghis-khan/
'The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies, to drive them before him, to take from them all they possess, to see those they love in tears, to ride their horses, and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms.'
You’re probably more familiar with the paraphrase in Conan the Barbarian:
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-if our fathers pussied out of "rivalry", we wouldn't be here.
I personally don't give a shit about that.
But, many haven't been taught right. So, the thinking, "why created more for the rivalry?", well that's just wimping out. Why try for the team, when someone else may get it? Why talk to the girl, she'll never pick me---my rival over there is better? Why ask my boss for a promotion, I'll only be seen as a rival to others?
One cannot go on with that type of thinking. I stand "in" life...but, I heed warnings, and see what others to do to "not" replicate them, and hopefully pass that down...
My question was - what's so UNselfish about creating rivalry and more mouths for this place? You'd be UNselfish by NOT doing it.
It's good to have a generally positive lifestyle...but it always seems that the people so adamant about not having kids, always have a damn bug up their ass about something---and that's not positive.
What's not positive? Not positive to travel the world, learn new things, meet new people, strive for perfection in a certain area (like science for ex._, or maybe even contribute to community in other positive/beneficial ways? What are you talking about? seems like you're the one with the "bug" tbh. As you want to convince me or anyone else that "kids are a must", but you can't really explain why, aside that "nature works like that" (does that mean it's automatically "positive"? I doubt it. It may not be negative, but it's not necesarrily a "must" or "only truth"). We've transcended our biological roots to quite an extent already, and it's not going anywhere, but only speeds up.
Just wait till ' hmans live for at least 200years - having kids will drop to a very very low numbers (it's apparent already actually).
Having kids is only a desperate way of a genetic code to "not die", nothing else, nothing more.
And it gets worse as you get older...I've seen 50-60 yr olds who have no kids talking about "I don't want to die alone", or "I wish I had kids", "you are lucky, cherish those who are around you, especially the young", I wonder why and how did they come to that conclusion...
That's most fuckin selfish reason to have kids I can think of. I mean - to be able to be "entertained" as you get older (and trust me - if your IQ is high and you have a progressive mind - that aspect of life will be of no worries. Plenty of old and interesting people around. Oh, and technology, as always - will take care of a huge portion of that "problem", one way or another..). Young people doesn't want to be around old farts just to cheer them up. At least I'm not interested in that, and I wouldn't like my kids to do that if I'd manage to have some.
-you are too smart to know that their are no absolutes, and it's dangerous to clutch onto dogmas.
I got an impression that it's what you were doing on some of these points.
Hell, one could adopt a kid and he may turn out to be like Dexter, or not. But, ultimately...most would want to have their own kids, for the most selfish reason of all...their your blood, your genes, your kin...not someone elses.
Exactly. Having kids was, is and will allways be SELFISH, not the other way around. But on the other hand - selfish is not always a "negative".
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I guess when youre 90 years old and all your friends have died you will ring and ask your travels to pick you some milk up from the supermarket. Ill ring my children, guess you will be having your coffee black! ;D
I really hope you didn't have kids so that you would have someone to run errands for you when you are old. That would be pathetic.
I'll get my own damn milk.
My wife is from the Philippines, her massive family has taken me in as one of their own, so I am sure I won't be left to rot on my own if I miraculously make it to that age.
Most people in my family die horrifying young deaths anyway.
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i'm sure EVERY person you know who has children has confided in you, and said they wish they never had children, because that happens all the time ::)
and you're including yourself as one of those "oxygen thieves" right ? and your parents shouldn't have given birth to you?
Don't worry....I'm not expecting an honest answer
Dont Worry, I have often said my Mother should have never had any children, let alone five - I am happy to stay, happy to go, I just look forward to a peaceful quiet death. I too am an oxygen thief - the world doesn't need me or the other 7 billion mindless consuming indoctrinated repeaters
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Ala fat slob at work that calls a large bag of Doritos 'lunch'.
Spoke to one of our accounts girls about NOT wanting children. It just sorta came up in conversation. She says I'm being selfish to the world and what if everyone thought like I do? There will be no more human race with 200 years. She also ask whether or not I cared about the human race and its future. Truth be told, not really. When I'm dead I luckily won't leave anyone behind so really, what do I care if we're hit by a ELE comet or likewise catastrophe?
What say Getbig? Do we all need to produce screaming little fucks that only cost time and money and ties you down. Do we have that responsibility to the world?
What about my mom? You all wanna do her? :D
Who has done more to help not only their race but the human race? Oprah(who doesn't have kids) or some black chick on welfare living in the ghetto with 10 kids with 7 different men?
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Not at all....it's a simple fact as you get older, your view on this subject changes. You're a young guy...and your viewpoint is to be expected. People get very defensive about this I've noticed
again....let's see how many of you don't have children when you are over 35 or 40. One way or another, it just happens. that's life. Talk to most guys in their 20s, or early30s, and tney will say some variation of what you are saying..and yet the human race somehow manages to go on. Someone is having kids
I'm 39 - I am pretty sure I have made up my mind - Fuck reproduction - After helping raise someone elses child I am pretty sure there isn't much in the parenting lifestyle that a single man is missing out on. After the child turns 13, you pretty much want to throw them out of a moving vehicle - no fun - just annoyance and stress and an empty wallet.
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Actually if more people felt like you do, the world would be better off 200 years from now. Our over-population and over-consumption of the world's resources is going to be more and more of an issue.
This^^^
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Who has done more to help not only their race but the human race? Oprah(who doesn't have kids) or some black chick on welfare living in the ghetto with 10 kids with 7 different men?
Oprah is an elitist whore who couldn't give a flying Fuck about anyone else - It is because of elitists like her that the rest of us has to suffer - for there to be incredibly wealthy people their has to be extreme poverty - I am still amazed that people buy into the carefull yet highly paid for propoganda campaigns the rich run to brainwash the public - It always amazes me when someone from the average population admires the person who keeps them small, enslaved and without any power.
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Lots of untermenschen floating around here. If you don't reproduce you genetics don't survive making you a genetic failur.
Having kids in this reality keeps your bloodline in THIS realm. If you don't have kids in this realm, you move into another realm. Its been thought that Earth is an infant reality that is controlled by an evil slave entity. So having kids in this realm may just keep your bloodline enslaved.
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I guess when youre 90 years old and all your friends have died you will ring and ask your travels to pick you some milk up from the supermarket. Ill ring my children, guess you will be having your coffee black! ;D
What happens if you outlive everyone genius!
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Oprah is an elitist whore who couldn't give a flying Fuck about anyone else - It is because of elitists like her that the rest of us has to suffer - for there to be incredibly wealthy people their has to be extreme poverty - I am still amazed that people buy into the carefull yet highly paid for propoganda campaigns the rich run to brainwash the public - It always amazes me when someone from the average population admires the person who keeps them small, enslaved and without any power.
I don't disagree with you. But the question I posed was something I would say to the WOMAN who called someone selfish for not having kids. I'm guessing she wouldn't have the same answer you did ;)
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Trust me. I have thought this quit a bit recently; "what is the purpose of human life".
well, I came to conclusion:
I can't probably make anything really remarkable that people world wide would read from history books decades later.
So only way for us regular guys to contribute is to have children.
Please, tell your view on the subject.
I'm always eager to learn and to listen new thoughts from people. And this question still bothers me from time to time.
I can live a 1000 years and never understand your thinking. Why is it important to leave something behind? Does the world need what you leave behind? You are dead, it does not matter if you leave a multinational or a shithead druggie of a son. You are dead.
What do you contribute to when you have kids? Why do you think that counts as a contribution?
I'm not digging you out, I'm just trying to understand a concept that it's as unintelligible to me as ancient Sanskrit. If you can answer some of my questions above, I'll appreciate it greatly.
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It takes real intelligence to break the bloodline when the bloodline is fucked in the head.
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Dont Worry, I have often said my Mother should have never had any children, let alone five - I am happy to stay, happy to go, I just look forward to a peaceful quiet death. I too am an oxygen thief - the world doesn't need me or the other 7 billion mindless consuming indoctrinated repeaters
Even while I can agree with your sentiment, that's a bit in the extreme. I'd say this world would do just fine with 75% of its people gone. They make no difference. Whether they here or not is irrelevant. All they do is populate this world with more irrelevant people. I'm irrelevant. I'm not depressed or self-hating, in fact I literally would not change my life for that of a king, but I recognise it for what it is. You can only be as strong as your weakest link and a lot of our time is spent propping up and sustaining people that probably have no business bringing more helpless souls into the world.
I find it slightly hilarious that welfare rats feel they 'contributed' when brining a fat ignorant future rat into this world. Or the shift worker that never goes outside his dead end dusty town and spend his evening watching trash TV with his obese wife and stupid kid. Does he somehow contributed more than the single guy making money, travelling the world and banging as much pootang as he humanly can? In most people's eyes their kids are the smartest, cutest and best. It must ring true that parenthood somehow slaps a few brain cells around and make some people rather ignorant of the real truth.
Saying all that, I think that if having kids truly makes you happy and you need that type of thing to feel like you 'contributed', then go right ahead. It just grates on me seeing moronic parents fucking up a child because they felt they had to have one to feel worthy.
My dad said to me at 22, wait till you 25. He said to me at 25, wait till you're 30. I'm 32 in June and the thought of bringing an offspring into this world just for the sake of doing so still makes me laugh.
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It takes real intelligence to break the bloodline when the bloodline is fucked in the head.
Agreed. Although by nature that's contradictory. :D
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Even while I can agree with your sentiment, that's a bit in the extreme. I'd say this world would do just fine with 75% of its people gone. They make no difference. Whether they here or not is irrelevant. All they do is populate this world with more irrelevant people. I'm irrelevant. I'm not depressed or self-hating, in fact I literally would not change my life for that of a king, but I recognise it for what it is. You can only be as strong as your weakest link and a lot of our time is spent propping up and sustaining people that probably have no business bringing more helpless souls into the world.
I find it slightly hilarious that welfare rats feel they 'contributed' when brining a fat ignorant future rat into this world. Or the shift worker that never goes outside his dead end dusty town and spend his evening watching trash TV with his obese wife and stupid kid. Does he somehow contributed more than the single guy making money, travelling the world and banging as much pootang as he humanly can? In most people's eyes their kids are the smartest, cutest and best. It must ring true that parenthood somehow slaps a few brain cells around and make some people rather ignorant of the real truth.
Saying all that, I think that if having kids truly makes you happy and you need that type of thing to feel like you 'contributed', then go right ahead. It just grates on me seeing moronic parents fucking up a child because they felt they had to have one to feel worthy.
My dad said to me at 22, wait till you 25. He said to me at 25, wait till you're 30. I'm 32 in June and the thought of bringing an offspring into this world just for the sake of doing so still makes me laugh.
Low and working class people contribute far more than the Elite - The role of an elite is to do whatever the fuck you want, you never have to compromise or do anything you don't want to do, you never have to battle against external blocks, you never have to work a job you despise for less than a comfortable wage - in some ways I think there are two options, kill the 99% who have very little and are enslaved by the elite and leave the shithole for the Elites, or kill the Elites that hold everyone else down and keep them poor and the world perpetually at war and then some form of common sense living might come back in vogue. Personally, I would choose to kill the Elites and take my chances in a brave new world. The problem is overcoming the long history of secrecy and effectively targeting those elites that truly fuck things up. The Elites hide behind their power, money and the Political Puppets they employ. America is the best democracy that money can buy!
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Low and working class people contribute far more than the Elite
How so?
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How so?
The Elites suck everyone dry, not only not contributing but leeching off the rest of us. The Poor work shitty jobs for low wages, take heaps of shit from every other class, and just generally put up with a crappy lot in life. It is the working class that keep the world running. If the 99% were to go, the Elites would be fucked without there slaves around. Also poorer people are generally nicer people, rich people suck - arrogant, suspicious, belittling - Rich people make terrible good people.
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Also poorer people are generally nicer people, rich people suck - arrogant, suspicious, belittling - Rich people make terrible good people.
That's a weak generalization. I know lotsa poor dicks who just complain all the time.
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That's a weak generalization. I know lotsa poor dicks who just complain all the time.
Maybe, there are a lot more poorer people than rich, so you are bound to meet all types, but if given an option of hanging out with some elite arsehole who owns corporations, banks and politicians or the local blue collar worker, I would choose to hang out with the working class fella.
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People having children just for the simple fact that they can is selfish. Every single one of us is lost and have yet to discover our true purpose in the universe and what life is really all about. Sure, you make little meaningless things important like your career, appearance, finances, friends and family, , etc. but in the grand scheme of things that shit means nothing. You also may have some delusions on what it really is that we're doing here but you don't know....no one does. Not yet anyway.
You grow up and are sent off to school to learn things that will make you a better human being. All along the way told what it is that you need to do to "succeed" in life. Meanwhile, none of these things are guaranteed to make you happy and we all walk around aimlessly looking for things that'll bring you "happiness" to fill that void. Having kids is one of them...lol. NOPE...sorry try again!!!
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People having children just for the simple fact that they can is selfish. Every single one of us is lost and have yet to discover our true purpose in the universe and what life is really all about. Sure, you make little meaningless things important like your career, appearance, finances, friends and family, , etc. but in the grand scheme of things that shit means nothing. You also may have some delusions on what it really is that we're doing here but you don't know....no one does. Not yet anyway.
You grow up and are sent off to school to learn things that will make you a better human being. All along the way told what it is that you need to do to "succeed" in life. Meanwhile, none of these things are guaranteed to make you happy and we all walk around aimlessly looking for things that'll bring you "happiness" to fill that void. Having kids is one of them...lol. NOPE...sorry try again!!!
I think it is cruel to introduce life to an obviously morally bankrupt world - it would be different if there was real love and support in communities, but more often than not, it is superficial and harmful, when people really need help, it is often not there - even within families. I have never understood why people have children and then use them for there own personal whipping posts. It seems to me the majority who have kids are the ones who cant utilise critical thinking, they just toy with the idea, ask no really serious questions and then start fucking. Leaving society to suffer from there inability to think anything through to a conclusion.
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You guys are over anal-yzing this way too much ,having children is a natural process and people have kids for different reasons .
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I think it is cruel to introduce life to an obviously morally bankrupt world - it would be different if there was real love and support in communities, but more often than not, it is superficial and harmful, when people really need help, it is often not there - even within families. I have never understood why people have children and then use them for there own personal whipping posts. It seems to me the majority who have kids are the ones who cant utilise critical thinking,they just toy with the idea, ask no really serious questions and then start fucking . Leaving society to suffer from there inability to think anything through to a conclusion.
From what I've seen, its always the least qualified people to have children that are always the first in doing so. Young kids, people with no education, career or even a steady job. And then these people have the need to criticize the ones who are not acting solely on their animal instincts. These people do not think before they act...that's why it brings the problems you've brought up.
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You guys are over anal-yzing this way too much ,having children is a natural process and people have kids for different reasons .
Only reason I can think of people having children is to give their own life meaning. Well, that and just wanting to fuck and not really thinking of the implications.
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Only reason I can think of people having children is to give their own life meaning. Well, that and just wanting to fuck and not really thinking of the implications.
Are you married ?
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Are you married ?
If I ever get married it will be to have a family. Otherwise I don't really see a point in getting married.
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If I ever get married it will be to have a family.
What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
I just think its a natural progression...you get married and have children. This is my wife...these are my kids.... It just seems a little weird to me to be married and not have kids. I have met 2 married couples with no kids and I always wondered ....so who's defective you or her??
Its very ignorant, I know but most people will think this in their heads. Its just the title "wife" still implies certain things to my old caveman brain. I've yet to find someone I want to marry and when and if I do I'm sure she'll most likely want children....but I would prefer adoption tbh. I have not ruled the possibility of having my own as I love kids(no pedo) but I just think if you're gonna bring children into this world its your duty to provide them with the best life you can give them. Doesn't necessarily mean extreme wealth to me but at least love them no matter what and be honest with them from the very beginning.....that is something very few of us are given.
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a) I couldn't give two shits if my genetics/family name dies with me. Like it matters. No one's name means shit to anything, ever, in reality.
b) I hate when people say, "You must become a productive/contributing member of society." Why? I don't owe anyone shit. And for what it"s worth, I ain't a big fan of "society", in any incarnation. I don't wanna contribute a damn thing to my society.
When folks say what's in the first sentence, what they mean is, "You have to make money, spend money, pay taxes, and keep things going the way they've always gone." WHY? I hate how things have always been. Let the shit burn and die.
c) I am 42 and have no children. Am I selfish? Who gives a rat's toss? What I do know is, I like to have my time my own and not add another shitting irritant to this cruddy world we've created. I feel better to know the buck's stopped with me in this way.
d) Life is basically a shit stew, people. You suffer illness, disease, heartache, constant stress, crappy people each and every day, famine, monetary woe, watching your family members and friends die (some horribly), indignity, brainwashing, addiction ... yeah, a real treat, life.
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I'm happily married, and one day do want kids.
But I think people fall too much into the whole societal-cycle of getting married to for the sake of getting married and pleasing your parents or friends or whatever... what the fuck....
If you are happy with someone and want to get married... then get married, if you are happy single... then stay single, if you want kids... have kids, if you don't..... then don't!
Fuck what everyone else says, its your life, live for you... not to please anyone else!
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a) I couldn't give two shits if my genetics/family name dies with me. Like it matters. No one's name means shit to anything, ever, in reality.
b) I hate when people say, "You must become a productive/contributing member of society." Why? I don't owe anyone shit. And for what it"s worth, I ain't a big fan of "society", in any incarnation. I don't wanna contribute a damn thing to my society.
When folks say what's in the first sentence, what they mean is, "You have to make money, spend money, pay taxes, and keep things going the way they've always gone." WHY? I hate how things have always been. Let the shit burn and die.
c) I am 42 and have no children. Am I selfish? Who gives a rat's toss? What I do know is, I like to have my time my own and not add another shitting irritant to this cruddy world we've created. I feel better to know the buck's stopped with me in this way.
d) Life is basically a shit stew, people. You suffer illness, disease, heartache, constant stress, crappy people each and every day, famine, monetary woe, watching your family members and friends die (some horribly), indignity, brainwashing, addiction ... yeah, a real treat, life.
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I was just thinking, over here in OZ, they were paying the welfare mothers a $5000 bonus to have kids to keep up a decent population growth, I was appalled, before you knew it, every ferral woman had three kids to three different dads, collecting all types of welfare and chid maintenance payments while her kids committed crimes that cost the taxpayer way more than the governement originally forked out to have that little fucker in the first place, why would any government encourage the scum to breed, it is because Kentucky Fried and McDonalds are always needing literate brain dead workers. I cant believe a government would pay for people to have children.
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What happens if you outlive everyone genius!
Yeah nah thats not happening Ill be luck to make 50, depending on medical advances
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Yeah nah thats not happening Ill be luck to make 50, depending on medical advances
Don't you dare go dying on us, BigJim.
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Im looking forward to being a father. Not anytime soon but it will come.
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HUMAN RACE, WHAT "HUMAN RACE" ?
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How so?
If the worker Ants can reproduce their kind in test tubes, they won't need the elite queen bee.
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Not at all....it's a simple fact as you get older, your view on this subject changes. You're a young guy...and your viewpoint is to be expected. People get very defensive about this I've noticed
again....let's see how many of you don't have children when you are over 35 or 40. One way or another, it just happens. that's life. Talk to most guys in their 20s, or early30s, and tney will say some variation of what you are saying..and yet the human race somehow manages to go on. Someone is having kids
I'll be 36 this year. Why the hell would anyone want the tremendous responsibility of raising a kid? Seems like a huge burden. I have 2 baby twin nephews I can play with every week or so and I GET MY FILL a/f 3 hrs w/ them.
Being in a relationship is a big enough challenge I can't begin to image the torture of throwing a kid in the mix.
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We all die alone regardless of how many family members you have. You came into the world alone and you will die alone.
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Don't you dare go dying on us, BigJim.
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after reading thru all this thread... is it any wonder white people disapear and are getting replaced by third worlders? Clearely the end of an era, reminiscent of the disapearing of romans.
The decline of a civlization; always happens folowing the exact same process; a global deliquessence of moral and family values, too much hedonism and materialism, then ultimately the loss of the will to live.
a) I couldn't give two shits if my genetics/family name dies with me. Like it matters. No one's name means shit to anything, ever, in reality.
b) I hate when people say, "You must become a productive/contributing member of society." Why? I don't owe anyone shit. And for what it"s worth, I ain't a big fan of "society", in any incarnation. I don't wanna contribute a damn thing to my society.
When folks say what's in the first sentence, what they mean is, "You have to make money, spend money, pay taxes, and keep things going the way they've always gone." WHY? I hate how things have always been. Let the shit burn and die.
c) I am 42 and have no children. Am I selfish? Who gives a rat's toss? What I do know is, I like to have my time my own and not add another shitting irritant to this cruddy world we've created. I feel better to know the buck's stopped with me in this way.
d) Life is basically a shit stew, people. You suffer illness, disease, heartache, constant stress, crappy people each and every day, famine, monetary woe, watching your family members and friends die (some horribly), indignity, brainwashing, addiction ... yeah, a real treat, life.
Are your parents separated by any chance?
I applaud your decision by the way. Thanks for not spawning an offspring that would ruin the life of my own offspring.
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after reading thru all this thread... is it any wonder white people
I applaud your decision by the way. Thanks for not spawning an offspring that would ruin the life of my own offspring.
I'm afraid offspring raised by a psychopath may not be the worst ones to "ruin" by someoens eleses opffspring. Just try not to reproduce (I have a feeling you've done that already), world has enough of religious lunatics already.
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after reading thru all this thread... is it any wonder white people disapear and are getting replaced by third worlders? Clearely the end of an era, reminiscent of the disapearing of romans.
The decline of a civlization; always happens folowing the exact same process; a global deliquessence of moral and family values, too much hedonism and materialism, then ultimately the loss of the will to live.
Are your parents separated by any chance?
I applaud your decision by the way. Thanks for not spawning an offspring that would ruin the life of my own offspring.
Or maybe you could raise your offspring to not be a pussy.
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Not at all....it's a simple fact as you get older, your view on this subject changes. You're a young guy...and your viewpoint is to be expected. People get very defensive about this I've noticed
again....let's see how many of you don't have children when you are over 35 or 40. One way or another, it just happens. that's life. Talk to most guys in their 20s, or early30s, and tney will say some variation of what you are saying..and yet the human race somehow manages to go on. Someone is having kids
Dude, the western world certainly does not think like that anymore. Basically every European country has birth rates below replacement levels and have experienced a decrease in the native population.
It is the third and second world, with countries like Uganda, Ethiopia and guy which are still surging ahead and popping out kids.
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Ala fat slob at work that calls a large bag of Doritos 'lunch'.
Spoke to one of our accounts girls about NOT wanting children. It just sorta came up in conversation. She says I'm being selfish to the world and what if everyone thought like I do? There will be no more human race with 200 years. She also ask whether or not I cared about the human race and its future. Truth be told, not really. When I'm dead I luckily won't leave anyone behind so really, what do I care if we're hit by a ELE comet or likewise catastrophe?
What say Getbig? Do we all need to produce screaming little fucks that only cost time and money and ties you down. Do we have that responsibility to the world?
What about my mom? You all wanna do her? :D
Man, I just hate when sluty single women ask me that question "do u whanna have kids someday" and if I say "no", the change of their face is worth videotaping, it's like my reaction to illuminati or something.
It's like women get this comfortable feeling if a man tells them you want kids, many women takes these things personally.
Now days I just tell the girls the reality, that first off I can't say for sure do I want kids because I don't love anyone, and even if I did love someone from the bottom of my heart making kids is not like making coffee, it has to be a sure thing and the only thing in order to be the right thing.
So I'm not looking for anyone to make kids with- nor will I make kids only to expand my family name because to me it's not what it's about, but if I someday make kids it comes as a sourprise and from pure love and usually the girls accept my answer 8)
But ironicly women nowdays are encouraged to be childless, but men can't or you are too aggressive and provocative, yet they don't want you to not have kids or you're being aggressive, not trust worthy and a player *yawn*
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People always justify their own decisions.
Some have kids, some don't. From those that do some will have 1 and some 5. It doesn't matter. Nobody wins, nobody loses. Go with the flow and don't try to fight the stream of life. It's pointless.
Don't try to predict what you will do, how you will think, how you will feel. It's unpredictable and no matter what, you will find a way to justify your decisions.
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People always justify their own decisions.
Some have kids, some don't. From those that do some will have 1 and some 5. It doesn't matter. Nobody wins, nobody loses. Go with the flow and don't try to fight the stream of life. It's pointless.
Don't try to predict what you will do, how you will think, how you will feel. It's unpredictable and no matter what, you will find a way to justify your decisions.
Spoken like a true android but as human beings we like to talk shit about fossil crap in the internet even though we could practise art or music etc.
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Spoken like a true android but as human beings we like to talk shit about fossil crap in the internet even though we could practise art or music etc.
that was this android's attempt at philosophizing about talking shit about fossil crap ;D
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Dude, the western world certainly does not think like that anymore. Basically every European country has birth rates below replacement levels and have experienced a decrease in the native population.
It is the third and second world, with countries like Uganda, Ethiopia and guy which are still surging ahead and popping out kids.
their kids survive because we gave them meds...in the past they used to die... And our "elites" opened borders so they can move into our countries and work the non skilled jobs, increase competition , lower salaries.
These people grow like weed because we allow them to, but they contribute nothing and destroy everything. A choice beween quality and quantity has to be made for the sake of the survival of our specie. And not just Our specie, but all the living species on earth, cause these savages destroy EVERYTHING considering how ignorant they are.
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I was just thinking, over here in OZ, they were paying the welfare mothers a $5000 bonus to have kids to keep up a decent population growth, I was appalled, before you knew it, every ferral woman had three kids to three different dads, collecting all types of welfare and chid maintenance payments while her kids committed crimes that cost the taxpayer way more than the governement originally forked out to have that little fucker in the first place, why would any government encourage the scum to breed, it is because Kentucky Fried and McDonalds are always needing literate brain dead workers. I cant believe a government would pay for people to have children.
So your complaining about the welfare, and your complaining about the elites in the same fucking thread. ::)
The elites would like to drop these little burdens on their heads, yet your the ones keeping them going.
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We all die alone regardless of how many family members you have. You came into the world alone and you will die alone.
Not entirely sure that's true.
I came into the world surrounded by my parents who loved me after my mother had lost my older brother stillborn two years previously and after developing a rare cancer was told she would never have children again. Then I came along and she had two more children after that.
I'm nearly 35 and ten or even five years ago having kids was the furthest thing from my mind - would have been the worst thing that could have happened to me - I was too busy travelling the world and having a great old time.
Now that I'm older I wouldn't mind at least one - people change and I've surprised myself.
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a) I couldn't give two shits if my genetics/family name dies with me. Like it matters. No one's name means shit to anything, ever, in reality.
b) I hate when people say, "You must become a productive/contributing member of society." Why? I don't owe anyone shit. And for what it"s worth, I ain't a big fan of "society", in any incarnation. I don't wanna contribute a damn thing to my society.
When folks say what's in the first sentence, what they mean is, "You have to make money, spend money, pay taxes, and keep things going the way they've always gone." WHY? I hate how things have always been. Let the shit burn and die.
c) I am 42 and have no children. Am I selfish? Who gives a rat's toss? What I do know is, I like to have my time my own and not add another shitting irritant to this cruddy world we've created. I feel better to know the buck's stopped with me in this way.
d) Life is basically a shit stew, people. You suffer illness, disease, heartache, constant stress, crappy people each and every day, famine, monetary woe, watching your family members and friends die (some horribly), indignity, brainwashing, addiction ... yeah, a real treat, life.
LOL....you're just a miserable fuck who's been burned by countless women, just because you hate your life doesn't mean we all do.
I love my life...I have a great kid who is the apple of my eye, she brings me joy in ways you can't relate to because your heart is black and desolate..and i wouldn't change it for the world.
Uberman touched on something good...the prevalent selfishness and hedonistic attitude displayed here is pathetic..it's in our nature to procreate...you ever wonder why you are such a miserable bastard"?
Maybe it's because you're 42 years old and you have no woman, and no children....a guy your age that still thinks "bangin the heavy iron" and listening to metal is the most important thing in life...that's just sad.
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Not entirely sure that's true.
I came into the world surrounded by my parents who loved me after my mother had lost my older brother stillborn two years previously and after developing a rare cancer was told she would never have children again. Then I came along and she had two more children after that.
I'm nearly 35 and ten or even five years ago having kids was the furthest thing from my mind - would have been the worst thing that could have happened to me - I was too busy travelling the world and having a great old time.
Now that I'm older I wouldn't mind at least one - people change and I've surprised myself.
Good old fear (of getting older).. Most people act out of fear in many points in their life. But maybe that's inevitable.
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... your heart is black and desolate ... still think "bangin the heavy iron" and listening to metal is the most important thing in life ... that's just sad.
But finding worth in life through someone else's isn't?
You're an arrogant douche.
And if you met me, you would NOT find me to be miserable. Far from it.
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But finding worth in life through someone else's isn't?
You're an arrogant douche.
And if you met me, you would NOT find me to be miserable. Far from it.
I doubt that..every post you write is "this sucks, that sucks..fuck having kids, women are whores, trust no one life sucks"
Oh.yeah.....you're a breath of fresh air ::)
you have the mentality of an angst-ridden teen who's mad at the world
not my kind of people, i wake up with a smile every day
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I doubt that..every post you write is "this sucks, that sucks..fuck having kids, women are whores, trust no one life sucks"
Oh.yeah.....you're a breath of fresh air ::)
you have the mentality of an angst-ridden teen who's mad at the world
not my kind of people, i wake up with a smile every day
I have more passion in one finger than most do in their entire body. Regardless ...
You're not likely my kind of person, either.
Just the same, I wish you the best in life.
That we're of different minds makes no difference. You are not better and I am no worse.
Stay smiling.
(My apologies for calling you a douche.)
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I doubt that..every post you write is "this sucks, that sucks..fuck having kids, women are whores, trust no one life sucks"
Oh.yeah.....you're a breath of fresh air ::)
you have the mentality of an angst-ridden teen who's mad at the world
not my kind of people, i wake up with a smile every day
Come on man.. don't impose your values on other people. It's just a discussion. For each his own. Kids or iron, as long as noone is doing harm for other ppl..
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The last thing we need is little jimjim's running around. Good call on not spreading your seed.
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So your complaining about the welfare, and your complaining about the elites in the same fucking thread. ::)
The elites would like to drop these little burdens on their heads, yet your the ones keeping them going.
I am not complaining about welfare, I am protesting $5000 bonus payments for having a child - this is done to keep the population growth steady to keep the economy going. The Government sees it as an investment in cheap labor, because the majority of people who have a baby just for the $5000 are the Welfare Mothers, and there children grow up to be semi literate, low skilled workers, just what the government needs lots of. Anyway, I am struggling to find your point, am I not able to protest baby bonus welfare payments and Elites in the same paragraph. Is that a problem for you. I don't really understand what you are arguing for.
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everyone should have kids ::)
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their kids survive because we gave them meds...in the past they used to die... And our "elites" opened borders so they can move into our countries and work the non skilled jobs, increase competition , lower salaries.
These people grow like weed because we allow them to, but they contribute nothing and destroy everything. A choice beween quality and quantity has to be made for the sake of the survival of our specie. And not just Our specie, but all the living species on earth, cause these savages destroy EVERYTHING considering how ignorant they are.
We should let the savages be in peace. Whatever happens in Uganda is cut off from the rest of the world in terms of consequences. Seriously.
They aren't going to start building atomic weapons anytime soon.
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We should let the savages be in peace. Whatever happens in Uganda is cut off from the rest of the world in terms of consequences. Seriously.
They aren't going to start building atomic weapons anytime soon.
we should prevent our elites from allowing them to come in our world. Yesterday in a fucking jungle in uganda, tomorow in your neighborhood. Arent globalization and multiculturalism wonderful?
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Lmao. ;D
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I am not complaining about welfare, I am protesting $5000 bonus payments for having a child - this is done to keep the population growth steady to keep the economy going. The Government sees it as an investment in cheap labor, because the majority of people who have a baby just for the $5000 are the Welfare Mothers, and there children grow up to be semi literate, low skilled workers, just what the government needs lots of. Anyway, I am struggling to find your point, am I not able to protest baby bonus welfare payments and Elites in the same paragraph. Is that a problem for you. I don't really understand what you are arguing for.
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