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Republican strategist Karl Rove gives Obama the advantage in his first Electoral College Map polling memo:
In the first Karl Rove & Co. 2012 Electoral College map, there are 18 states (220 Electoral College votes) where Obama has a solid lead and 15 states (93 EC votes) polling solidly for Romney, according to the latest polling average in each state. There are six states with a combined 82 EC votes classified as “toss--ups” (IA, FL, MO, NC, SC, VA); five states (MI, NH, NV, OH, PA) with a combined 64 EC votes that “lean” Obama; and six states (AZ, GA, KY, SD, TN, TX) with a combined 79 EC votes that “lean” Romney. In other words, there are 17 states and a total of 225 Electoral College votes up for grabs.
Top line math: that's 284 "safe" or "lean" Obama, versus 157 "safe" or "lean" Romney states.
more: http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/04/rove-obama-has-the-electoral-college-lead-121786.html
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Ridiculous. That map uis purte nonsense since rove is including states that obama has zero chance in and will go right back into the red camp as soon as the fall approaches.
right now - between less turn out by young people for the communist traitor, indes pissed off at obama failed presidency, i see obama losing in a landslide like 2010 or worse.
Remember - none of you morons saw that coming but only a few of us.
The Kim Kardashian presidency is coming to an end.
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Reading the comments section of that makes me have no idea how the election will turn out. So many sheep......
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i don't like rove but he knows politics,i'll trust his opinion over some internet shut-in ;D
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i don't like rove but he knows politics,i'll trust his opinion over some internet shut-in ;D
LOL. Rove is a pofs who barely scraped by in 2000 and 2004 and was directly responsible along with GWB for the gop losses in 2006. He is vastly over rated.
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lol, he got bush elected 2 times,i would say he knows more about politics than our 24/7 getbig shut-in :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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lol, he got bush elected 2 times,i would say he knows more about politics than our 24/7 getbig shut-in :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Yeah - had gore won his home state and kerry ohio - - both which nearly happened, and gore won the pop vote in 2000 remember and the fiasco in florida?
In 2004 - the economy was good and many came out to vote based on all the states with anyi gay marriage things on the ballot. I worked that election for the RNC , as well as 2000, and 2008 and can tell you bush spend a ton of money and had a great org, and he still almost lost twice.
Obama is in DEEEEEEPPPPP trouble and you can try to mask it however you like.
In 2008 McCain ran a disastrous campaign, bush fatigue, the economy melted down, obama had no record, 24/7 msm kneepadding, record turnout for blacks, college kids, etc.
In site of all that McLame lost only by less than 6 points.
obama has none of those things going for him this time and has a record he cant defend. Romney is a far better nominee than mclame and actually wants to win. and will be better funded.
If you think this thing is a lock for obama - you are so delusional its not funny.
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hahhaaha i'm sure rove is pulling for obama :D :D :D let's face it the repubs had this election easy,and this is the best canidate they could run :D :D
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Ridiculous. That map uis purte nonsense since rove is including states that obama has zero chance in a
which states?
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which states?
They have MO and SC as a tossup? Really? You honestly believe Obama has any chance of winning MO and SC?
They have NV and OH leaning Obama. Really? You dont think those are tossup states?
What's really pathetic is that they have Texas leaning Romney and not solid Romney. Really?
1. This stuff relies mostly on polls that use registered voters instead of likely voters. Republicans always do better among just likely voters instead of registered voters. The disadvantage to relying on parasites as your base is that it is tough to get them out to actually vote when you take away thier dignity. And now that the new Repubilcan state legislatures have gotten rid of a lot of this same day registration non sense, it will be even tougher. Also, the challenger almost always gets most of the undecided votes.
2. The General Election season has just started. People dont even know Romney yet and dont even know who he is. Some have never even heard of him. That's why an incumbent is supposed to be well ahead right now. This is not where Obama needs to be right now AND HE KNOWS IT.
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They have MO and SC as a tossup? Really? You honestly believe Obama has any chance of winning MO and SC?
They have NV and OH leaning Obama. Really? You dont think those are tossup states?
What's really pathetic is that they have Texas leaning Romney and not solid Romney. Really?
1. This stuff relies mostly on polls that use registered voters instead of likely voters. Republicans always do better among just likely voters instead of registered voters. The disadvantage to relying on parasites as your base is that it is tough to get them out to actually vote when you take away thier dignity. And now that the new Repubilcan state legislatures have gotten rid of a lot of this same day registration non sense, it will be even tougher.
2. The General Election season has just started. People dont even know Romney yet and dont even know who he is. Some have never even heard of him. That's why an incumbent is supposed to be well ahead right now. This is not where Obama needs to be right now AND HE KNOWS IT.
The thing to is that Obama RARELY ever gets to even 50% in any polls whether it be vs romney or in approval.
For an incumbent who has been campaignin g for four years and raising tens of millions of dollars, has the media doing his bidding every day, etc, obama is in bad shape.
Look, I hate romney, but its ABO for most people.
The same tools like 180, blackass, straw, benny, et al who NEVER saw the 2010 landslide coming are going to be the same idiots who wake up after election day in a puddle of tears that their messiah and the democrat senate are gone.
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They have MO and SC as a tossup? Really? You honestly believe Obama has any chance of winning MO and SC?
Rove does. And it's 3-5 points there at the moment, right? statistical tie?
obama has the incumbent factor, huge ground game, and we all know that romney needs 6x the money to squeak out a narrow win against santorum. Obama will have about the same amount of money, and is a shitload smarter than santorum.
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LOL. Rove is a pofs who barely scraped by in 2000 and 2004 and was directly responsible along with GWB for the gop losses in 2006. He is vastly over rated.
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Really???? Of course, in your blindness of rage I guess you've forgotten all the threads you've posting praising Karl Rove when he was blasting Obama on a subject..... ::)
You can't have it both ways, you stupid fucktard
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Really???? Of course, in your blindness of rage I guess you've forgotten all the threads you've posting praising Karl Rove when he was blasting Obama on a subject..... ::)
You can't have it both ways, you stupid fucktard
Can you please bump those.
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"The Decline and Despair President"
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2011 | Hugh Hewitt
Posted on October 28, 2011 10:18:31 AM EDT by Kaslin
"We have lost our ambition, our imagination, and our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge..."
That was President Obama on Tuesday, October 25, 2011, speaking to a fundraiser in San Francisco, expanding on the premise of his presidency, that America is in decline.
The president has made such statements a recurring theme of his speeches going back to his campaign, though it isn't clear whether they just pop out of his inner Alinksy or that they cross the teleprompter in front of him.
In Mumbai in 2010 he said the US was no longer in a position to "meet the rest of the world economically on our terms".
"The fact of the matter is that for most of my lifetime and I'll turn 50 next year - the US was such an enormously dominant economic power, we were such a large market, our industry, our technology, our manufacturing was so significant that we always met the rest of the world economically on our terms," the president told his foreign audience. "And now because of the incredible rise of India and China and Brazil and other countries, the US remains the largest economy and the largest market, but there is real competition."
Apple faces real competition, but it hasn't declined. It is thriving. But our president assumes American decline instead of assuming that we would win any competition, and handily.
In the UK, Telegraph columnist Nile Gardiner calls Obama "the decline and despair president."
The most famous expression of the president's disdain for the notion that America is a superpower and exceptionally situated and equipped to lead the world came a year before his remarks in India, when at the European summit of the Group of 20 in 2009, he quipped, “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism.”
Andrew Sullivan for one denied that the president meant what he said here, and rose to his defense in 2010 with an extended quote from this same "Greek exceptionalism" speech in which the president professes pride in the United States and its core values, but this misses the point of what the president believes to be the arc of American history right now. "What cannot be done honestly, in my view, is to create a narrative from all of [the president's moves] to describe Obama as an anti-American hyper-leftist, spending the US into oblivion."
But now the president's talk of lost ambition and ruined imagination ends the debate that Sullivan attempted to join. The president keeps providing those whom Sullivan criticizes with more evidence of his bleak view of the American future, and the left is helpless to defend him when the president simply insists on telling it the way he sees it.
"What's especially remarkable about this hackery," wrote Sullivan a year ago "is that these conservative authors don't just egregiously misrepresent the president's actual position. It's that all of them actually cite, as evidence, an out of context line from the very speech that proves their analysis is wrong."
"You can call this truthiness if you like," he concluded." Better, the Dish believes, to call it what it is. A deliberate campaign of misinformation. A Big Lie."
The trouble for Sullivan's argument is the evidence. The president went abroad early in his presidency, and the result was what is widely known, correctly, as "the apology tour."
"President Barack Obama has finished the second leg of his international confession tour," Karl Rove wrote in the Wall Street Journal on April 23, 2009. "In less than 100 days, he has apologized on three continents for what he views as the sins of America and his predecessors."
Rove continued:
Mr. Obama told the French (the French!) that America "has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive" toward Europe. In Prague, he said America has "a moral responsibility to act" on arms control because only the U.S. had "used a nuclear weapon." In London, he said that decisions about the world financial system were no longer made by "just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy" -- as if that were a bad thing. And in Latin America, he said the U.S. had not "pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors" because we "failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas."
After the first apology tour came the "Greek exceptionalism" moment, and after that his Mumbai confession and now his San Francisco sigh. The apologies merged with the dire assessments and have evolved into explicit pessimism.
"We have lost our ambition, our imagination, and our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge..."
This is not the man to lead an American renaissance, any more than Jimmy Carter could be expected to rise above his personal sense of malaise which he projected on to the country thirty years ago.
took about 30 seconds to find this, sure i can find 5o more but have better things to do that go back in time,unlike yourself
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"The Decline and Despair President"
Townhall.com ^ | October 28, 2011 | Hugh Hewitt
Posted on October 28, 2011 10:18:31 AM EDT by Kaslin
"We have lost our ambition, our imagination, and our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge..."
That was President Obama on Tuesday, October 25, 2011, speaking to a fundraiser in San Francisco, expanding on the premise of his presidency, that America is in decline.
The president has made such statements a recurring theme of his speeches going back to his campaign, though it isn't clear whether they just pop out of his inner Alinksy or that they cross the teleprompter in front of him.
In Mumbai in 2010 he said the US was no longer in a position to "meet the rest of the world economically on our terms".
"The fact of the matter is that for most of my lifetime and I'll turn 50 next year - the US was such an enormously dominant economic power, we were such a large market, our industry, our technology, our manufacturing was so significant that we always met the rest of the world economically on our terms," the president told his foreign audience. "And now because of the incredible rise of India and China and Brazil and other countries, the US remains the largest economy and the largest market, but there is real competition."
Apple faces real competition, but it hasn't declined. It is thriving. But our president assumes American decline instead of assuming that we would win any competition, and handily.
In the UK, Telegraph columnist Nile Gardiner calls Obama "the decline and despair president."
The most famous expression of the president's disdain for the notion that America is a superpower and exceptionally situated and equipped to lead the world came a year before his remarks in India, when at the European summit of the Group of 20 in 2009, he quipped, “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism.”
Andrew Sullivan for one denied that the president meant what he said here, and rose to his defense in 2010 with an extended quote from this same "Greek exceptionalism" speech in which the president professes pride in the United States and its core values, but this misses the point of what the president believes to be the arc of American history right now. "What cannot be done honestly, in my view, is to create a narrative from all of [the president's moves] to describe Obama as an anti-American hyper-leftist, spending the US into oblivion."
But now the president's talk of lost ambition and ruined imagination ends the debate that Sullivan attempted to join. The president keeps providing those whom Sullivan criticizes with more evidence of his bleak view of the American future, and the left is helpless to defend him when the president simply insists on telling it the way he sees it.
"What's especially remarkable about this hackery," wrote Sullivan a year ago "is that these conservative authors don't just egregiously misrepresent the president's actual position. It's that all of them actually cite, as evidence, an out of context line from the very speech that proves their analysis is wrong."
"You can call this truthiness if you like," he concluded." Better, the Dish believes, to call it what it is. A deliberate campaign of misinformation. A Big Lie."
The trouble for Sullivan's argument is the evidence. The president went abroad early in his presidency, and the result was what is widely known, correctly, as "the apology tour."
"President Barack Obama has finished the second leg of his international confession tour," Karl Rove wrote in the Wall Street Journal on April 23, 2009. "In less than 100 days, he has apologized on three continents for what he views as the sins of America and his predecessors."
Rove continued:
Mr. Obama told the French (the French!) that America "has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive" toward Europe. In Prague, he said America has "a moral responsibility to act" on arms control because only the U.S. had "used a nuclear weapon." In London, he said that decisions about the world financial system were no longer made by "just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy" -- as if that were a bad thing. And in Latin America, he said the U.S. had not "pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors" because we "failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas."
After the first apology tour came the "Greek exceptionalism" moment, and after that his Mumbai confession and now his San Francisco sigh. The apologies merged with the dire assessments and have evolved into explicit pessimism.
"We have lost our ambition, our imagination, and our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge..."
This is not the man to lead an American renaissance, any more than Jimmy Carter could be expected to rise above his personal sense of malaise which he projected on to the country thirty years ago.
took about 30 seconds to find this, sure i can find 5o more but have better things to do that go back in time,unlike yourself
Please show me where i pimped rove.
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you just used rove to shit on obama,come on pretend lawyer get with it :D :D :D
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you just used rove to shit on obama,come on pretend lawyer get with it :D :D :D
Where? Hugh Hewitt wrote that article.
BTW - I would use madoff and vanderslloot to shit on slumbama if i could. Obama is the worst disaster ever to hold office in this country.
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"President Barack Obama has finished the second leg of his international confession tour," Karl Rove wrote in the Wall Street Journal on April 23, 2009. "In less than 100 days, he has apologized on three continents for what he views as the sins of America and his predecessors."
Rove continued:
Mr. Obama told the French (the French!) that America "has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive" toward Europe. In Prague, he said America has "a moral responsibility to act" on arms control because only the U.S. had "used a nuclear weapon." In London, he said that decisions about the world financial system were no longer made by "just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy" -- as if that were a bad thing. And in Latin America, he said the U.S. had not "pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors" because we "failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas."
After the first apology tour came the "Greek exceptionalism" moment, and after that his Mumbai confession and now his San Francisco sigh. The apologies merged with the dire assessments and have evolved into explicit pessimism.
"We have lost our ambition, our imagination, and our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge..."
This is not the man to lead an American renaissance, any more than Jimmy Carter could be expected to rise above his personal sense of malaise which he projected on to the country thirty years ago.
took about 30 seconds to find this, sure i can find 5o more but have better things to do that go back in time,unlike yourself
are you playing dumb or are you really this fu#king stupid
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"President Barack Obama has finished the second leg of his international confession tour," Karl Rove wrote in the Wall Street Journal on April 23, 2009. "In less than 100 days, he has apologized on three continents for what he views as the sins of America and his predecessors."
Rove continued:
Mr. Obama told the French (the French!) that America "has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive" toward Europe. In Prague, he said America has "a moral responsibility to act" on arms control because only the U.S. had "used a nuclear weapon." In London, he said that decisions about the world financial system were no longer made by "just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy" -- as if that were a bad thing. And in Latin America, he said the U.S. had not "pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors" because we "failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas."
After the first apology tour came the "Greek exceptionalism" moment, and after that his Mumbai confession and now his San Francisco sigh. The apologies merged with the dire assessments and have evolved into explicit pessimism.
"We have lost our ambition, our imagination, and our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge..."
This is not the man to lead an American renaissance, any more than Jimmy Carter could be expected to rise above his personal sense of malaise which he projected on to the country thirty years ago.
took about 30 seconds to find this, sure i can find 5o more but have better things to do that go back in time,unlike yourself
are you playing dumb or are you really this fu#king stupid
Bump one post of mine saying Rove was a good guy or a genius etc? Rove is a disgusting hack who helped GWB destroy the GOP from 2000 -2008
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rove is clearly a wise political mind of our time.
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rove is clearly a wise political mind of our time.
Yeah - took a real genius to give the house and senate to pelosi in 2006, focus on amnesty in 2005, put harriet meirs up for the SC, etc.
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Bump one post of mine saying Rove was a good guy or a genius etc? Rove is a disgusting hack who helped GWB destroy the GOP from 2000 -2008
i'm done with this, it's like arguing with a retard.in fact i'm beginning to think you might be a bit retarded.you knew what Vince G, CSN MFT was talking about,maybe he can come back and explan it to the retarded one
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Yeah - took a real genius to give the house and senate to pelosi in 2006, focus on amnesty in 2005, put harriet meirs up for the SC, etc.
Did you miss his achievements with Bush earlier on?
Nobody coudl have reversed the tide of anti-Bush sentiment in 06 and 08.
33, if I came out saying "Rove doesn't know his shit" yesterday, you'd call me a kneepadder. He is a smar tman. Just like cheney, gore, dubya, obama, and most at the top.
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Did you miss his achievements with Bush earlier on?
Nobody coudl have reversed the tide of anti-Bush sentiment in 06 and 08.
33, if I came out saying "Rove doesn't know his shit" yesterday, you'd call me a kneepadder. He is a smar tman. Just like cheney, gore, dubya, obama, and most at the top.
i think Rove is greatly overrated.
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i'm done with this, it's like arguing with a retard.in fact i'm beginning to think you might be a bit retarded.you knew what Vince G, CSN MFT was talking about,maybe he can come back and explan it to the retarded one
I'm not even going to waste another keystroke. He knows that he fucked up
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Follow the money. Which candidate has recieved more money from the banking elite? That'll most likely be your winner.
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94% of the time, the canddiate with the most $ wins.
superPacs blurry things. Right now, romney has about 10 mil, ,and obama has 100+ mil, I believe?
that'll change.
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lol, he got bush elected 2 times,i would say he knows more about politics than our 24/7 getbig shut-in :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
how about common sense?
Tx is a "lean" romney state?
lol by that alone I call this bull shit
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what is romney polling in TX? He'll win it easily but surely not the same margin of victory that a southern champ like Dubya would win.
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what is romney polling in TX? He'll win it easily but surely not the same margin of victory that a southern champ like Dubya would win.
You never saw the mid terms coming - along w the other libs, and the same will be for the gop landslide in november.
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what is romney polling in TX? He'll win it easily but surely not the same margin of victory that a southern champ like Dubya would win.
dont know, doesnt matter...
saying Tx "leans" romney is like saying blacks "lean" obama....
its not even close, that alone makes this article skeptical in my eyes.
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Different take on the electoral college map. Shows it's a tossup at this point.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
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Different take on the electoral college map. Shows it's a tossup at this point.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
Even that fair and balanced map makes things look better for Obama on paper than it is in reality. For example, MO has to be considered a tossup because McCain barely won it, but no rational person believes Romney will lose MO. Arizona is considered a tossup but no rational person believes Romney will lose that. Obama barely won North Carolina 51-49 for the first time in a generation for the Dems, so it has to be considered a tossup, but I cant beleieve he could win that again. Factor in that Obama has lossed independents for good, factor in a much more excited Republican base, and things dont look good for Obama.
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Even that fair and balanced map makes things look better for Obama on paper than it is in reality. For example, MO has to be considered a tossup because McCain barely won it, but no rational person believes Romney will lose MO. Arizona is considered a tossup but no rational person believes Romney will lose that. Obama barely won North Carolina 51-49 for the first time in a generation for the Dems, so it has to be considered a tossup, but I cant beleieve he could win that again. Factor in that Obama has lossed independents for good, factor in a much more excited Republican base, and things dont look good for Obama.
Based on the RCP map, Romney basically needs (EC votes in parentheses):
Arizona (11)
Nevada (6)
Colorado/Missouri (9/10)
Florida (29)
N. Carolina (15)
Virginia (13)
Ohio (18)
Those states, plus the ones that go red no matter what, would give Romney 272 EC votes (the exact number Bush got in 2000, if he gets Missouri; if he gets Colorado instead, it's 271.)
Based on what you said, Romney's work basically boils down to Florida, Virginia and Ohio.
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Based on the RCP map, Romney basically needs (EC votes in parentheses):
Arizona (11)
Nevada (6)
Colorado/Missouri (9/10)
Florida (29)
N. Carolina (15)
Virginia (13)
Ohio (18)
Those states, plus the ones that go red no matter what, would give Romney 272 EC votes (the exact number Bush got in 2000, if he gets Missouri; if he gets Colorado instead, it's 271.)
Based on what you said, Romney's work basically boils down to Florida, Virginia and Ohio.
Yeah, that is pretty much Romney's best path to 270. (Though it is better for him to go for MO rather than Colorodo. Colorodo is starting to scare me. I dont know what the fuck is up with that state. Its almost as if every dumb citezin from California moved there and poisened it with thier politics). Also, Romney has an outside shot at stealing New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Michigan, and possibly even New Mexico. Though he doesnt need those states to win. That is one of the benefits of having Romney as the nominee. Santorum wouldnt have a chance in hell at stealing those states.
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Yeah, that is pretty much Romney's best path to 270. (Though it is better for him to go for MO rather than Colorodo. Colorodo is starting to scare me. I dont know what the fuck is up with that state. Its almost as if every dumb citezin from California moved there and poisened it with thier politics). Also, Romney has an outside shot at stealing New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Michigan, and possibly even New Mexico. Though he doesnt need those states to win. That is one of the benefits of having Romney as the nominee. Santorum wouldnt have a chance in hell at stealing those states.
I have been for mittens picking susana Martinez gov of NM for a long time since she would help w the sw states and Florida.
she is way better the Rubio MHO.
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I have been for mittens picking susana Martinez gov of NM for a long time since she would help w the sw states and Florida.
she is way better the Rubio MHO.
Im starting to think Romney needs to pick someone who is battle tested and maybe even somewhat well known. Martinez hasnt been on the job long enough. Neither has Nikki Haley, even though I love her. If he picks a relatively inexperienced woman it would smell too much of McCain/Palin.
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Im starting to think Romney needs to pick someone who is battle tested and maybe even somewhat well known. Martinez hasnt been on the job long enough. Neither has Nikki Haley, even though I love her. If he picks a relatively inexperienced woman it would smell too much of McCain/Palin.
Only think is that susana Martinez is a former prosecutor and her husband is like a Mexi John Wayne.
She is tough and is current wo the drama.
personally I like susana Martinez over rubio by a factor of infinity.
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Even that fair and balanced map makes things look better for Obama on paper than it is in reality. For example, MO has to be considered a tossup because McCain barely won it, but no rational person believes Romney will lose MO. Arizona is considered a tossup but no rational person believes Romney will lose that. Obama barely won North Carolina 51-49 for the first time in a generation for the Dems, so it has to be considered a tossup, but I cant beleieve he could win that again. Factor in that Obama has lossed independents for good, factor in a much more excited Republican base, and things dont look good for Obama.
I can honestly say that North Carolina has pretty much gone Blue due to the large amount of liberals moving to Western part of the state, its a pretty liberal state now unlike South Carolina so it will go Obama by a slightly larger margin. Arizona and Missouri will go to Romney, Florida is a real tossup, Virginia will go Romney, Iowa will go Obama, Colorado will be Romney, Nevada will go Obama, New Hamshire will go Obama, Ohio is a toss up.
Biggest issue for Romney is the Southern States.....if he even loses one of them, then its pretty much over with.
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I can honestly say that North Carolina has pretty much gone Blue due to the large amount of liberals moving to Western part of the state, its a pretty liberal state now unlike South Carolina so it will go Obama by a slightly larger margin. Arizona and Missouri will go to Romney, Florida is a real tossup, Virginia will go Romney, Iowa will go Obama, Colorado will be Romney, Nevada will go Obama, New Hamshire will go Obama, Ohio is a toss up.
Biggest issue for Romney is the Southern States.....if he even loses one of them, then its pretty much over with.
I haven't looked at currently polling in Iowa, but the Iowa governor was all over Obama during the Republican caucus. He said Iowans were not going to support Obama this time around.
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Even Stu Rothernburg sauid today obama is doa in North Carolina right now.
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Even that fair and balanced map makes things look better for Obama on paper than it is in reality. For example, MO has to be considered a tossup because McCain barely won it, but no rational person believes Romney will lose MO. Arizona is considered a tossup but no rational person believes Romney will lose that. Obama barely won North Carolina 51-49 for the first time in a generation for the Dems, so it has to be considered a tossup, but I cant beleieve he could win that again. Factor in that Obama has lossed independents for good, factor in a much more excited Republican base, and things dont look good for Obama.
That's going to be a huge factor in November.
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That's going to be a huge factor in November.
Obama has lost EVERYONe but 96% of racist blacks, govt workers, gays, enviro freaks, lezbos, far left feminists and abortion activists, 60% of jews, and a few others.
His turnout will be a problem as well since the young have ZERO reason to vote for him again.
Gallup and Rass still have Romney beating Obama.
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Obama has lost EVERYONe but 96% of racist blacks, govt workers, gays, enviro freaks, lezbos, far left feminists and abortion activists, 60% of jews, and a few others.
His turnout will be a problem as well since the young have ZERO reason to vote for him again.
Gallup and Rass still have Romney beating Obama.
It's a lot more than that. I recently had breakfast with several people who plan to vote for him again, and they don't fall in those categories. He still has a lot of supporters, unfortunately.
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It's a lot more than that. I recently had breakfast with several people who plan to vote for him again, and they don't fall in those categories. He still has a lot of supporters, unfortunately.
for liberals breakfast takes place at 2 pm. They stay up all night smoking funny cigarettes and then sleep until after noon. They drink beer with lunch and usually steal silverware.
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for liberals breakfast takes place at 2 pm. They stay up all night smoking funny cigarettes and then sleep until after noon. They drink beer with lunch and usually steal silverware.
Troll. It was a doctor who usually votes for Republicans and two HR people, one of whom is a liberal, and one is who apolitical.
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Troll. It was a doctor who usually votes for Republicans and two HR people, one of whom is a liberal, and one is who apolitical.
Morons.
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I can honestly say that North Carolina has pretty much gone Blue due to the large amount of liberals moving to Western part of the state, its a pretty liberal state now unlike South Carolina so it will go Obama by a slightly larger margin. Arizona and Missouri will go to Romney, Florida is a real tossup, Virginia will go Romney, Iowa will go Obama, Colorado will be Romney, Nevada will go Obama, New Hamshire will go Obama, Ohio is a toss up.
Biggest issue for Romney is the Southern States.....if he even loses one of them, then its pretty much over with.
I would think ROmney would have an easier time winning NC than Virginia. Obama won Viriginia by 6 or 7 points if Im not mistaken.
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It's a lot more than that. I recently had breakfast with several people who plan to vote for him again, and they don't fall in those categories. He still has a lot of supporters, unfortunately.
You know, some of my co workers who are against him believe he gets the benefit of the doubt because he is black. Im sure that's true for the black people, but I think other people who are giving him the benefit of the doubt simply dont want to admit that they were sold a bill of goods. But it doesnt matter Beach Bum. Statistics suggest that enough independents have turned against him.
Any independent who votes for this guy again is a schmuck and a fool. It takes a real moron to be convinced that 4 years of 8% + unemployment is the fault of the predecessor who had 5% unemployment for 6 of his 8 years. It also takes a moron to be convinced that recessions take 4 years to get out of.
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Obama voters are typically grossly uninformed on most issues. Talk to. The average Obama drone and you quickly understand why we are. I the mess we are.
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You know, some of my co workers who are against him believe he gets the benefit of the doubt because he is black. Im sure that's true for the black people, but I think other people who are giving him the benefit of the doubt simply dont want to admit that they were sold a bill of goods. But it doesnt matter Beach Bum. Statistics suggest that enough independents have turned against him.
Any independent who votes for this guy again is a schmuck and a fool. It takes a real moron to be convinced that 4 years of 8% + unemployment is the fault of the predecessor who had 5% unemployment for 6 of his 8 years. It also takes a moron to be convinced that recessions take 4 years to get out of.
I think independents should be the difference in this time around. At least I hope so.