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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2012, 07:53:53 AM »
Did you miss his achievements with Bush earlier on?

Nobody coudl have reversed the tide of anti-Bush sentiment in 06 and 08.  

33, if I came out saying "Rove doesn't know his shit" yesterday, you'd call me a kneepadder.  He is a smar tman.  Just like cheney, gore, dubya, obama, and most at the top.

i think Rove is greatly overrated. 

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2012, 03:48:31 PM »
i'm done with this, it's like arguing with a retard.in fact i'm beginning to think you might be a bit retarded.you knew what Vince G, CSN MFT was talking about,maybe he can come back and explan it to the retarded one


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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2012, 04:26:26 PM »
Follow the money. Which candidate has recieved more money from the banking elite? That'll most likely be your winner.

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2012, 05:36:11 PM »
94% of the time, the canddiate with the most $ wins.

superPacs blurry things.  Right now, romney has about 10 mil, ,and obama has 100+ mil, I believe?

that'll change.

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2012, 08:14:47 AM »
lol, he got bush elected 2 times,i would say he knows more about politics than our 24/7 getbig shut-in  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
how about common sense?

Tx is a "lean" romney state?

lol by that alone I call this bull shit

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2012, 08:41:26 AM »
what is romney polling in TX?  He'll win it easily but surely not the same margin of victory that a southern champ like Dubya would win.

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2012, 08:50:27 AM »
 :)
what is romney polling in TX?  He'll win it easily but surely not the same margin of victory that a southern champ like Dubya would win.

You never saw the mid terms coming - along w the other libs, and the same will be for the gop landslide in november.

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2012, 08:53:19 AM »
what is romney polling in TX?  He'll win it easily but surely not the same margin of victory that a southern champ like Dubya would win.
dont know, doesnt matter...

saying Tx "leans" romney is like saying blacks "lean" obama....

its not even close, that alone makes this article skeptical in my eyes.

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2012, 10:05:57 AM »
Different take on the electoral college map.  Shows it's a tossup at this point.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2012, 11:43:14 PM »
Different take on the electoral college map.  Shows it's a tossup at this point.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

Even that fair and balanced map makes things look better for Obama on paper than it is in reality. For example, MO has to be considered a tossup because McCain barely won it, but no rational person believes Romney will lose MO. Arizona is considered a tossup but no rational person believes Romney will lose that. Obama barely won North Carolina 51-49 for the first time in a generation for the Dems, so it has to be considered a tossup, but I cant beleieve he could win that again. Factor in that Obama has lossed independents for good, factor in a much more excited Republican base, and things dont look good for Obama.
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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2012, 03:44:25 PM »
Even that fair and balanced map makes things look better for Obama on paper than it is in reality. For example, MO has to be considered a tossup because McCain barely won it, but no rational person believes Romney will lose MO. Arizona is considered a tossup but no rational person believes Romney will lose that. Obama barely won North Carolina 51-49 for the first time in a generation for the Dems, so it has to be considered a tossup, but I cant beleieve he could win that again. Factor in that Obama has lossed independents for good, factor in a much more excited Republican base, and things dont look good for Obama.

Based on the RCP map, Romney basically needs (EC votes in parentheses):

Arizona (11)
Nevada (6)
Colorado/Missouri (9/10)
Florida (29)
N. Carolina (15)
Virginia (13)
Ohio (18)

Those states, plus the ones that go red no matter what, would give Romney 272 EC votes (the exact number Bush got in 2000, if he gets Missouri; if he gets Colorado instead, it's 271.)

Based on what you said, Romney's work basically boils down to Florida, Virginia and Ohio.

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2012, 06:31:46 PM »
Based on the RCP map, Romney basically needs (EC votes in parentheses):

Arizona (11)
Nevada (6)
Colorado/Missouri (9/10)
Florida (29)
N. Carolina (15)
Virginia (13)
Ohio (18)

Those states, plus the ones that go red no matter what, would give Romney 272 EC votes (the exact number Bush got in 2000, if he gets Missouri; if he gets Colorado instead, it's 271.)

Based on what you said, Romney's work basically boils down to Florida, Virginia and Ohio.

Yeah, that is pretty much Romney's best path to 270. (Though it is better for him to go for MO rather than Colorodo. Colorodo is starting to scare me. I dont know what the fuck is up with that state. Its almost as if every dumb citezin from California moved there and poisened it with thier politics). Also, Romney has an outside shot at stealing New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Michigan, and possibly even New Mexico. Though he doesnt need those states to win. That is one of the benefits of having Romney as the nominee. Santorum wouldnt have a chance in hell at stealing those states.
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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2012, 06:36:47 PM »
Yeah, that is pretty much Romney's best path to 270. (Though it is better for him to go for MO rather than Colorodo. Colorodo is starting to scare me. I dont know what the fuck is up with that state. Its almost as if every dumb citezin from California moved there and poisened it with thier politics). Also, Romney has an outside shot at stealing New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Michigan, and possibly even New Mexico. Though he doesnt need those states to win. That is one of the benefits of having Romney as the nominee. Santorum wouldnt have a chance in hell at stealing those states.

I have been for mittens picking susana Martinez gov of NM for a long time since she would help w the sw states and Florida.

she is way better the Rubio MHO. 

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2012, 07:20:39 PM »
I have been for mittens picking susana Martinez gov of NM for a long time since she would help w the sw states and Florida.

she is way better the Rubio MHO. 

Im starting to think Romney needs to pick someone who is battle tested and maybe even somewhat well known. Martinez hasnt been on the job long enough. Neither has Nikki Haley, even though I love her. If he picks a relatively inexperienced woman it would smell too much of McCain/Palin.
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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2012, 07:27:34 PM »
Im starting to think Romney needs to pick someone who is battle tested and maybe even somewhat well known. Martinez hasnt been on the job long enough. Neither has Nikki Haley, even though I love her. If he picks a relatively inexperienced woman it would smell too much of McCain/Palin.

Only think is that susana Martinez is a former prosecutor and her husband is like a Mexi John Wayne. 

She is tough and is current wo the drama. 

personally I like susana Martinez over rubio by a factor of infinity.

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2012, 02:25:46 PM »
Even that fair and balanced map makes things look better for Obama on paper than it is in reality. For example, MO has to be considered a tossup because McCain barely won it, but no rational person believes Romney will lose MO. Arizona is considered a tossup but no rational person believes Romney will lose that. Obama barely won North Carolina 51-49 for the first time in a generation for the Dems, so it has to be considered a tossup, but I cant beleieve he could win that again. Factor in that Obama has lossed independents for good, factor in a much more excited Republican base, and things dont look good for Obama.


I can honestly say that North Carolina has pretty much gone Blue due to the large amount of liberals moving to Western part of the state, its a pretty liberal state now unlike South Carolina so it will go Obama by a slightly larger margin.  Arizona and Missouri will go to Romney, Florida is a real tossup, Virginia will go Romney, Iowa will go Obama, Colorado will be Romney, Nevada will go Obama, New Hamshire will go Obama, Ohio is a toss up.  


Biggest issue for Romney is the Southern States.....if he even loses one of them, then its pretty much over with.
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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2012, 02:28:17 PM »

I can honestly say that North Carolina has pretty much gone Blue due to the large amount of liberals moving to Western part of the state, its a pretty liberal state now unlike South Carolina so it will go Obama by a slightly larger margin.  Arizona and Missouri will go to Romney, Florida is a real tossup, Virginia will go Romney, Iowa will go Obama, Colorado will be Romney, Nevada will go Obama, New Hamshire will go Obama, Ohio is a toss up.  


Biggest issue for Romney is the Southern States.....if he even loses one of them, then its pretty much over with.

I haven't looked at currently polling in Iowa, but the Iowa governor was all over Obama during the Republican caucus.  He said Iowans were not going to support Obama this time around. 

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2012, 02:40:04 PM »
Even Stu Rothernburg sauid today obama is doa in North Carolina right now. 


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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2012, 02:48:30 PM »
Even that fair and balanced map makes things look better for Obama on paper than it is in reality. For example, MO has to be considered a tossup because McCain barely won it, but no rational person believes Romney will lose MO. Arizona is considered a tossup but no rational person believes Romney will lose that. Obama barely won North Carolina 51-49 for the first time in a generation for the Dems, so it has to be considered a tossup, but I cant beleieve he could win that again. Factor in that Obama has lossed independents for good, factor in a much more excited Republican base, and things dont look good for Obama.

That's going to be a huge factor in November.

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2012, 02:51:14 PM »
That's going to be a huge factor in November.

Obama has lost EVERYONe but 96% of racist blacks, govt workers, gays, enviro freaks, lezbos, far left feminists and abortion activists, 60% of jews, and a few others. 

His turnout will be a problem as well since the young have ZERO reason to vote for him again. 

Gallup and Rass still have Romney beating Obama. 

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2012, 03:11:32 PM »
Obama has lost EVERYONe but 96% of racist blacks, govt workers, gays, enviro freaks, lezbos, far left feminists and abortion activists, 60% of jews, and a few others. 

His turnout will be a problem as well since the young have ZERO reason to vote for him again. 

Gallup and Rass still have Romney beating Obama. 

It's a lot more than that.  I recently had breakfast with several people who plan to vote for him again, and they don't fall in those categories.  He still has a lot of supporters, unfortunately. 

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2012, 03:25:49 PM »
It's a lot more than that.  I recently had breakfast with several people who plan to vote for him again, and they don't fall in those categories.  He still has a lot of supporters, unfortunately. 

for liberals breakfast takes place at 2 pm.  They stay up all night smoking funny cigarettes and then sleep until after noon.  They drink beer with lunch and usually steal silverware.


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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2012, 03:36:50 PM »
for liberals breakfast takes place at 2 pm.  They stay up all night smoking funny cigarettes and then sleep until after noon.  They drink beer with lunch and usually steal silverware.



Troll.  It was a doctor who usually votes for Republicans and two HR people, one of whom is a liberal, and one is who apolitical. 

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« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2012, 03:45:20 PM »
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Troll.  It was a doctor who usually votes for Republicans and two HR people, one of whom is a liberal, and one is who apolitical. 

Morons. 

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Re: Rove admits Obama way up in his first EC map -- Obama 284 Romney 157
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2012, 06:58:49 PM »

I can honestly say that North Carolina has pretty much gone Blue due to the large amount of liberals moving to Western part of the state, its a pretty liberal state now unlike South Carolina so it will go Obama by a slightly larger margin.  Arizona and Missouri will go to Romney, Florida is a real tossup, Virginia will go Romney, Iowa will go Obama, Colorado will be Romney, Nevada will go Obama, New Hamshire will go Obama, Ohio is a toss up.  


Biggest issue for Romney is the Southern States.....if he even loses one of them, then its pretty much over with.

I would think ROmney would have an easier time winning NC than Virginia. Obama won Viriginia by 6 or 7 points if Im not mistaken.
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