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Optimum Nutritions 100% whey. Good blend of proteins, 110 cals, 1 g fat, 2 g carbs, 24 g protein per serving. Very affordable. Pretty good taste, my favorite is vanilla.
I think many will agree with me.
Optimum Nutritions 100% whey. Good blend of proteins, 110 cals, 1 g fat, 2 g carbs, 24 g protein per serving. Very affordable.
It's affordable, but what blend are you referring to, a whey blend? If you want whey, just stick to an isolate.
seriously, you're all wasting ur time, and money on whey alone. Plenty of studies support the fact that a combination of whey, and casein, or whey and soy yield greater muscle building effects than just whey alone.
And yes, even after training because you give your body a sustained release of amino acids through your bloodstream to the muscles. Why do u think u always see, "eat a small meal an hour after ur whey protein post workout shake." It's cause u absorb it like crazy fast, and u don't digest all of it. How can u in an hour? Pay a little more for greater results.
I don't believe anyone said that ALL they eat is whey protein. Again, we're talking about SUPPLEMENTS.Ummm, blake is it? Yeah...ok. Anyway, when making an argument about something, make sure u know what u r talking about, or at least have some evidence to support. Never did i say anyone is on an "all whey" diet cause that would just be foolish to assume. My mistake. Guess u r with the elite 1 percenters of this board who think people really go on "all whey diets," as 99% of people here already know food is the dieting staple, not supps.
You don't NEED to ingest different types of protein to get a "steady stream of amino acids". Multiple feedings of whey protein spread throughout the day would do this quite nicely.
Ummm, blake is it? Yeah...ok. Anyway, when making an argument about something, make sure u know what u r talking about, or at least have some evidence to support. Never did i say anyone is on an "all whey" diet cause that would just be foolish to assume. My mistake. Guess u r with the elite 1 percenters of this board who think people really go on "all whey diets," as 99% of people here already know food is the dieting staple, not supps.
Second, learn something about protein, and the different types, and how long they r digested for. Only a fool would take whey every hour or 2, if that's what ur getting at with your little "multiple feedings of whey protein" garbage. It get's too be quite expensive doing it that way anyway. I'm sure since ur probably at home all day unemployed, or have rich parents, or whatever your situation is, that u can just go to your little cheap 10lbs bag of whey, and mix up every few hours, or after a real meal if u want to get all technically retarded. I was giving advice to those who obviously have a life, and a brain, and are out on the go. Between meals (again obviously) the best protein is a whey, casein mix, period. There is no room to argue this point junior. U do it the hard way, and i'll do it a better whey son. Understand? or should i break out the crayons?
As far as whey goes, i don't believe in it. They're now making baby formulas with whey, if it was a strong form of protein, i doubt babies would be able to drink it. but if u want to use it, whey concentrate is the best for muscle size.
Yeah, the Cookies N Cream kicks ass.
Optimum Nutritions 100% whey. Good blend of proteins, 110 cals, 1 g fat, 2 g carbs, 24 g protein per serving. Very affordable. Pretty good taste, my favorite is vanilla.I agree, mixes easy in a shaker and goes down like water not like others that feel like mortar mix. Choc. mint aint to bad.
I think many will agree with me.
Ummm, blake is it? Yeah...ok. Anyway, when making an argument about something, make sure u know what u r talking about, or at least have some evidence to support. Never did i say anyone is on an "all whey" diet cause that would just be foolish to assume. My mistake. Guess u r with the elite 1 percenters of this board who think people really go on "all whey diets," as 99% of people here already know food is the dieting staple, not supps.
Second, learn something about protein, and the different types, and how long they r digested for. Only a fool would take whey every hour or 2, if that's what ur getting at with your little "multiple feedings of whey protein" garbage.
It get's too be quite expensive doing it that way anyway. I'm sure since ur probably at home all day unemployed, or have rich parents, or whatever your situation is, that u can just go to your little cheap 10lbs bag of whey, and mix up every few hours, or after a real meal if u want to get all technically retarded. I was giving advice to those who obviously have a life, and a brain, and are out on the go. Between meals (again obviously) the best protein is a whey, casein mix, period. There is no room to argue this point junior. U do it the hard way, and i'll do it a better whey son. Understand? or should i break out the crayons?
Aido, good point. Thanks for the intelligent response and not some pointless garbage like the 2 idiots I'm about to address. I meant, more effective for bbers when i said stronger protein. My mistake.
As for loler, u r a retard. Go suck on blake, and get your protein requirements from his whey fortified jizz.
Protein isn't protein IMO. U don't have to like it. I was just trying to help, as studies show a protein powder from multiple sources, preferably fast, and slow digested protein is superior to whey alone. If u want to justify whey being equal, or better do to value, then there's no point in trying to see otherwise. You can't argue with science.
For a meal replacement, Myoplex deluxe is the best.
what about zero carb from VPX. Anybody got any imput on this shit
Many of us aren't really in a position to buy three different protein powders for various situations.
Yup.
You need a blended protein powder throughout the day (milk,egg, whey).
You need whey only post workout or pre/post workout, preferably an isolate/hydrolosate blend
you don't 3 different powders, you need your all purpose blend and a post workout formula
I hate to be the one to break to this to you Blake....but if you have trouble getting a whey protein shake during you work or school day then you are going to have MAJOR issues getting bigger and stronger. A protein shake is the fastest and easiet way to get your protein when you don't have much time.
Ok, enough flaming you hehe. Go to Wal-Mart and get a bottle with a flip top spout. You will use this to drink your shake between classes our on breaks at work. Just put the protein in the cup, add water (water fountain? lol), and shake it up. Drink.
Now get a thermo lunch box from Wal-mart and 2 ice packs. Pack your lunch (turkey sandwich on wheat, potato, pasta, oranges, bananas, canned tuna, etc.) and supplements (aminos, glutamine, creatine, vitamins). Make sure you get one large enough for 3 meals. Keep this with you pretty much all the time. Your muscles do not give a shit if you are working or at school or wherever. They demand food to grow.
Once you do this for about 3 weeks it will become a habit and won't be such a pain in the ass. It will be like brushing your teeth.
What else? OH! Stick to full range squats, bench presses, deadlifts and other barbell exercises in the 6 to 8 rep range. Use decent form and control your weights. Do not miss too many workouts.
There you go! Now you have the possibility of growing muscles. If this is too much then be happy being small and weak.
Let's assume for a moment that I take a scoop of whey protein every hour during the day. Do I NEED a blended protein powder in that case?
So whey is ineffective if I take it any other time of the day ouside of pre/post workout?
I NEED an "all purpose blend" and a "post workout formula"? Um, maybe if ALL you're going to consume every day is protein powder, and thus don't eat meat, drink milk, eat cottege cheese, eggs, etc. and can't have a whey protein shake very often throughout the day.
Worst...advice....ever.....
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a) Different types/fractions of proteins offer different benefits. This makes the ingestion of a blend a good thing.Thank you Chris. a) and b) was all i was trying to let these guys know. So much for trying to help people here. Maybe they'll listen to u.
b) The slower digesting proteins result in a greater net retention of ingested protein. That is also a good thing because the whole point of ingesting a supplemental protein product is to increase the amount of protein our body retains on a daily basis. Whey only products are the LEAST effective in terms of net retention.
c) Different protein products have varying levels of quality. For instance, what percent protein by weight is the product? Whey is not whey, and protein is not protein. There are products on the market that do NOT meet their label claims. This includes some of the "biggest" brands out there.
a) Different types/fractions of proteins offer different benefits. This makes the ingestion of a blend a good thing.
b) The slower digesting proteins result in a greater net retention of ingested protein. That is also a good thing because the whole point of ingesting a supplemental protein product is to increase the amount of protein our body retains on a daily basis. Whey only products are the LEAST effective in terms of net retention.
c) Different protein products have varying levels of quality. For instance, what percent protein by weight is the product? Whey is not whey, and protein is not protein. There are products on the market that do NOT meet their label claims. This includes some of the "biggest" brands out there.
Good post, Chris, and I certainly agree with what you've stated. Again, the remarks that you quoted were sarcasic. I was mainly playing devil's advocate in response to other remarks that were posted. That's why I was capitalizing the word "need". In talking about supplements (granted you can argue whether or not protein powder is truly a "supplement") nothing is NEEDED IMO.
Anyhow, I think many of us can agree that the "best" type of protein powder depends largely on what the intended purpose is. Meal replacement? Pre/Post workout only? Pre-bedtime? Etc, etc...... Because obviously a completely hydrolyzed whey will not be the greatest choice for a meal replacement versus a slower digesting blend, for example.
I'm just feeling the need to add this....I just bought, really to sample, a little bit of Optimum's Rocky Road flavored 100% whey. I shit you not, it tastes exactly like S'mores poptarts. It is, without a doubt, the best tasting protein powder i have ever had.
How does it compare to double rich choco
well, given that it's "the best protein powder i have ever tasted" i would say it's better. If you like that marshmallow flavor, of course.
mixed with milk or water?
mixed with milk or water?
water, always. Why would you mix pre-digested proteins with non pre-digested ::) ::)
because taste matters
because taste matters
Taste matters?! ??? Sounds like either you need to find a new hobbie, or you don't compete :o
I wish I had that luxury, but as long as I'm a competitive bodybuilder...I don't eat for taste 8)
Taste matters?! ??? Sounds like either you need to find a new hobbie, or you don't compete :o
I wish I had that luxury, but as long as I'm a competitive bodybuilder...I don't eat for taste 8)
you know what else is retarded Bear? Taking everything you read on a message board seriously ::)
i did not like the taste of optimum nutrition's cookies n'cream, too sweet, makes you nauseous and you will find cookie particles floating in your drink.
Personally, I believe it should be about quality first. Overall the best jug of protein I have ever bought is called "respect" by PRIDE NUTRITION. 47 grams of pure whey isolate, micellar casein and egg albumen. Check out their website at www.pridenutrition.com.. . They don't cut any corners by using whey concentrate or any other inferior fillers. It tasts great too. My girlfriend even likes to drink it, and you know if a women with no interest in the bb/fitness lifestyle is willing to drink protein shakes, they have got to taste good.
< I found 5 lbs for $40 at my local store. Not a bad deal at all.
i bought mine for $26 @ http://www.wholesalesupplementstore.com/eliteberryblast5lb.html