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Title: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 06:44:27 PM
695lbs squat at 1:30? QB's now a days are freaks. Devon97, help me out with this one!!


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Title: Re: RG3
Post by: No Patience on April 28, 2012, 06:54:08 PM
holy fuck...he squatted that like nothing...some people are so gifted...he looks skinny but his thighs look large

i could never get squats to feel natural...always felt awkward and i am 5'9 which you would think would work perfect...now i wont touch them with a herniated L5
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Twaddle on April 28, 2012, 06:58:07 PM
No way in hell that was 695.  I'm not taking anything away from RG3, he's 10 times the athlete I could ever dream of being.  However, that bar stayed stiff the entire time, and he pushed it up like nothing.  If he's really doing 695 with that much ease, his true 1 rep max is probably close to 800.  Horse shit!!!!!
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 07:04:40 PM
No way in hell that was 695.  I'm not taking anything away from RG3, he's 10 times the athlete I could ever dream of being.  However, that bar stayed stiff the entire time, and he pushed it up like nothing.  If he's really doing 695 with that much ease, his true 1 rep max is probably close to 800.  Horse shit!!!!!

He's using a yolk bar, it won't bend and Athletes Performance is legit. No bullshit in that video. I've been to the one by me in Carson at the Home Depot Center.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 07:05:42 PM
on mentals alone.... he's gonna be better than Luck.


I think you maybe correct. Luck is a freak as well.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on April 28, 2012, 07:08:34 PM
All jar jar binks
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2012, 07:13:06 PM
I think you maybe correct. Luck is a freak as well.

luck is a genetic freak and will be durable.   RG3 may get hurt, true.

but mentally, RG3 has that kobe mentality... like that wolf look in his eye.  He'd curb stomp someone, step on the neck to finish em.    Luck looks soft, grew up rich and always knew he'd be nfl royalty.   not hungry and desperate for it like RG3. 
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Montague on April 28, 2012, 07:13:24 PM
No way in hell that was 695.  I'm not taking anything away from RG3, he's 10 times the athlete I could ever dream of being.  However, that bar stayed stiff the entire time, and he pushed it up like nothing.  If he's really doing 695 with that much ease, his true 1 rep max is probably close to 800.  Horse shit!!!!!


I see your points, but that's a Hatfield bar, and they don't flex under heavier loads the way a "normal" bar does.
Also, the biomechanics of the movement are slightly, but noticeably different when using that bar. I was always able to use a lot more weight with it than a straight bar; and I was never a serious leg guy.

Still a very impressive lift.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: chunkramwell on April 28, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
Dat posterior chain
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 28, 2012, 07:31:54 PM

I see your points, but that's a Hatfield bar, and they don't flex under heavier loads the way a "normal" bar does.
Also, the biomechanics of the movement are slightly, but noticeably different when using that bar. I was always able to use a lot more weight with it than a straight bar; and I was never a serious leg guy.

Still a very impressive lift.

Every person i've ever seen use a yoke bar could use easily 200+ more pounds. You don't even have to worry about the weight on the shoulders and you can use your arms to pull yourself up in the cage. Anyone who can squat in the 400's can put over 600 with a yoke bar. Hell with the padding, you can't even feel in on your shoulders.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: claymore on April 28, 2012, 07:32:15 PM
No way in hell that was 695.  I'm not taking anything away from RG3, he's 10 times the athlete I could ever dream of being.  However, that bar stayed stiff the entire time, and he pushed it up like nothing.  If he's really doing 695 with that much ease, his true 1 rep max is probably close to 800.  Horse shit!!!!!

Agreed
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Twaddle on April 28, 2012, 07:38:10 PM

I see your points, but that's a Hatfield bar, and they don't flex under heavier loads the way a "normal" bar does.
Also, the biomechanics of the movement are slightly, but noticeably different when using that bar. I was always able to use a lot more weight with it than a straight bar; and I was never a serious leg guy.

Still a very impressive lift.

I'm still calling BS.  I went back and watched the video.  They show 695, and he says 695, and then they show a different frame.  I don't think he's got 695 on the bar when he's lifting.  I can't tell, but it looks like 5-6 plates that he's actually lifting.  Watch RG3's lift again, he goes down, grunts, and then throws it up so fast, it bounces at the top.  For frame of reference, here's IFBB pro Tim Martin doing 700 x 1 on the hatfield, and he's having much more trouble than RG3. 
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2009/results/2009atlanticcity_martin.jpg)

Title: Re: RG3
Post by: claymore on April 28, 2012, 07:42:49 PM
695 would fold him in half...I promise, real bar, hatfield bar...whatever.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: K-1 on April 28, 2012, 07:48:47 PM
Alot of people need to visit football HS/college locker rooms. In HS we had guys doing insane lifts...in HS. I hit 500 squat no prob at 185-200lbs 5'11". 410 bench but couldn't power clean for shit past 225lbs during Iron Man Day (Max Day for football players).

Had a WR at 175lbs 6 feet that could power clean 315lbs as smooth as I ever seen. we had guys 300lbs that couldn't do it. 

Some guys (football) are just cocky like that.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Hulkotron on April 28, 2012, 07:59:04 PM
In HS we had guys doing insane lifts...in HS. I hit 500 squat no prob at 185-200lbs 5'11". 410 bench

That's amazing!  You were less than two pounds short of the USAPL squat record and blew away the bench record by nearly 30 pounds!!

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=f220e072-3e38-4f58-9462-762836cf20bb

 ::)
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: K-1 on April 28, 2012, 08:02:27 PM
That's amazing!  You were less than two pounds short of the USAPL squat record and blew away the bench record by nearly 30 pounds!!

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=f220e072-3e38-4f58-9462-762836cf20bb

 ::)

I know you are trying to be sarcastic, but in HS or college nobody gives a shit about lifting records. It's all locker room Iron man shit. Being the strongest guy in a certain lift or overall points on the team.

Like I said....go visit a HS or College locker room....you will see some insane shit.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 08:06:32 PM
695 would fold him in half...I promise, real bar, hatfield bar...whatever.

So you're saying the video is fake? the plates are fake?
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Hulkotron on April 28, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
So you're saying the video is fake? the plates are fake?

Hey Coach how many highschoolers have you seen squat 500 and bench 410?
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 08:09:52 PM
I'm still calling BS.  I went back and watched the video.  They show 695, and he says 695, and then they show a different frame.  I don't think he's got 695 on the bar when he's lifting.  I can't tell, but it looks like 5-6 plates that he's actually lifting.  Watch RG3's lift again, he goes down, grunts, and then throws it up so fast, it bounces at the top.  For frame of reference, here's IFBB pro Tim Martin doing 700 x 1 on the hatfield, and he's having much more trouble than RG3. 
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2009/results/2009atlanticcity_martin.jpg)



You cannot compare a legit strength program to someone on gear. if anything it weighs itself out. If the dude thats on a ton of gear is getting 700 imagine what he would do on a sound strength program. Do you know the difference between a bodybuilding program and a strength program?
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 08:10:40 PM
Dat posterior chain

THIS has a lot to do with it.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 08:16:10 PM
Hey Coach how many highschoolers have you seen squat 500 and bench 410?

I have 3 squatting 500 off a 14" box. One is a 195lb running back. I have one 270lb lineman benching 395lbs. Two are Juniors.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: RadOncDoc on April 28, 2012, 08:38:41 PM

 Luck looks soft, grew up rich and always knew he'd be nfl royalty. 

Hmmm sounds like peyton and eli manning, and I think that's worked out pretty well.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: claymore on April 28, 2012, 08:40:21 PM
So you're saying the video is fake? the plates are fake?

No...I just have a hard time believing RG can squat 695. He's one hell of an athlete and I'm not trying to hate on him at all.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 20inch calves on April 28, 2012, 09:03:19 PM
You cannot compare a legit strength program to someone on gear. if anything it weighs itself out. If the dude thats on a ton of gear is getting 700 imagine what he would do on a sound strength program. Do you know the difference between a bodybuilding program and a strength program?
coach i cant believe that this is comin from you :-\
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on April 28, 2012, 09:05:28 PM
the sports clinic he's working with there -

Their entire job is to overhype an athlete and make him look bigger and faster and stronger.

So yeah, a little creative editing to make ppl think he's moving that kind of weight is cool and all, but NFL scouts roll their eyes at that shit.  They know how big and strong a dude has to be to move that tmuch weight.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 28, 2012, 09:10:56 PM
No...I just have a hard time believing RG can squat 695. He's one hell of an athlete and I'm not trying to hate on him at all.

He can't squat 695. He can yoke bar squat 695. Big difference. I'm guessing with his build, he could probably squat 315 for 6 to 8 reps. And if that video was real weight, this trainers are total ass fuks for putting that kind of weight on RG3's spine. Totally unnecessary.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: canyon on April 28, 2012, 09:16:15 PM
That's amazing!  You were less than two pounds short of the USAPL squat record and blew away the bench record by nearly 30 pounds!!

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=f220e072-3e38-4f58-9462-762836cf20bb

 ::)
High School football...lol
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: BIG ACH on April 28, 2012, 09:16:30 PM
Football Season couldn't come any sooner!!!!   ;D

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Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 09:25:04 PM
coach i cant believe that this is comin from you :-\

Explain.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: outby43 on April 28, 2012, 09:38:34 PM
That's amazing!  You were less than two pounds short of the USAPL squat record and blew away the bench record by nearly 30 pounds!!

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=f220e072-3e38-4f58-9462-762836cf20bb

 ::)

Exactly..why the fuck do people think ,especially on a bodybuilding forum,  that we will believe this shit.  This dude talks like it is the norm all across junior high...lol.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 10:02:01 PM
Exactly..why the fuck do people think ,especially on a bodybuilding forum,  that we will believe this shit.  This dude talks like it is the norm all across junior high...lol.

This is key. It's a bodybuilding forum. Not a strength forum, not a powerlifting forum, not a strength and conditioning forum..it's a BODYBUILDING forum where drugs NOT training rule.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: LittleJ on April 28, 2012, 10:31:36 PM
Most HS football train the 3 main exercises per week: Bench, Squat, and Powerclean. It's a lot easier to get stronger that way. Our whole line was squatting near 500 plus lbs and benching near 4 plates.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: BIG ACH on April 28, 2012, 10:33:21 PM
Most HS football train the 3 main exercises per week: Bench, Squat, and Powerclean. It's a lot easier to get stronger that way. Our whole line was squatting near 500 plus lbs and benching near 4 plates.

Yeah if you got a good facility, you can do a ton of shit to get that explosion movement!  One of my personal favorites was the Hammer Strength Ground Base Jammer!
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 28, 2012, 11:59:42 PM
Yeah if you got a good facility, you can do a ton of shit to get that explosion movement!  One of my personal favorites was the Hammer Strength Ground Base Jammer!

Love the Hammer Jammers
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on April 29, 2012, 01:23:13 AM
"squats off box" "squats with a retarded bar" how hard is it to do a legit, non ego-lift squat? Very hard I guess.  ::)
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on April 29, 2012, 09:11:20 AM
squatting that much, he should forget about the NFL and go into powerfilting. might win $100 of swag here and there .
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: chunkramwell on April 29, 2012, 09:17:32 AM
squatting that much, he should forget about the NFL and go into powerfilting. might win $100 of swag here and there .

lol

Title: Re: RG3
Post by: JasonH on April 29, 2012, 09:28:06 AM
I'm still calling BS.  I went back and watched the video.  They show 695, and he says 695, and then they show a different frame.  I don't think he's got 695 on the bar when he's lifting. 

This.

Just some clever editing going on.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on April 29, 2012, 09:39:22 AM
squatting that much, he should forget about the NFL and go into powerfilting. might win $100 of swag here and there .
Ha! ;D
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: SilverSpoon on April 29, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
You must realize that this is in fact a strength and conditioning program.

Further, this guy is not sniffing anything close to parallel.

A Hatfield/Yoke/Safety Squat bar, when utilized with handles, allows you to use your arms when squatting.

Quite literally, my friend (who competed at USAPL Nationals) would tell me that his lats would get sore from squats.  I told him he was obviously using the handles for far more than balance.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Nails on April 29, 2012, 10:20:14 AM
Im sure holding those bars in front with your hands Benifit in some way or another the  Having your hands up by your head like a normal squat
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 29, 2012, 11:27:35 AM
Im sure holding those bars in front with your hands Benifit in some way or another the  Having your hands up by your head like a normal squat

We use the yolk for our throwing athletes to ease the external rotation of placing your hands on a straight bar. Knowing how well educated the trainers at Athletes Performance I'm sure they're using the yolk for the same purpose.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: CalvinH on April 30, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
It's all fun and games until the Giants front line is coming at you 8)
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 30, 2012, 01:28:41 PM
Wait until he is asked to throw.

I hate the comparisons to Cam Newton. Cam played amazing against real superior teams.  RG, not so much.  Most of his highlights are running plays. Try to do that in the NFL he is going to be in for a surprise.

RG3 is going to equal the next big bust.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Mawse on April 30, 2012, 01:29:23 PM
This.

Just some clever editing going on.

Kovacks like video editing, I suspect that fast rep was with 5 or 6 plates, but still very impressive.

I blew out a disc in my upper back using that bar so I f'kin hate it
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Option D on April 30, 2012, 01:29:45 PM
great lift..


And yes.. there are high school kids that can do 500LBS..

I squatted 405 in the 10th grade for a single.. Fucked my back off for the entire weekend tho... But i was about 165, all legs.

This isnt that far fetched
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Bevo on April 30, 2012, 02:45:48 PM
Hahaha he's in the NFC east!!! Goodluck with that :-\
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: BIG ACH on April 30, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
It's all fun and games until the Giants front line is coming at you 8)

This year will be different!  My skins are going all the way baby!  Just watch!
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Wiggs on April 30, 2012, 09:35:37 PM
This year will be different!  My skins are going all the way baby!  Just watch!

wee, wee, wee all the way home.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: BIG ACH on April 30, 2012, 09:40:28 PM
wee, wee, wee all the way home.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEE WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Parker on April 30, 2012, 10:01:52 PM
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEE

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I think your RB will be an achilles heel
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Bevo on April 30, 2012, 10:13:18 PM
Cowboys, eagles, and giants will stomp him and the dead skins welcoming him to the NFL especially guys like Ware, and  Pierre Paul...
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: tommywishbone on April 30, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
I not too sure about handing control of a $750 million dollar NFL team to a cat with dread locks and a gangster bling grill.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Hulkotron on May 01, 2012, 02:50:46 AM
I not too sure about handing control of a $750 million dollar NFL team to a cat with dread locks and a gangster bling grill.

Good point Tommy.

I see now we have a 165 pound 10th-grader squatting 405, haha.  He was "all legs" though, could probably only bench 315.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Option D on May 01, 2012, 07:55:32 AM
I not too sure about handing control of a $750 million dollar NFL team to a cat with dread locks and a gangster bling grill.



lol
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 01, 2012, 08:12:00 AM
Good point Tommy.

I see now we have a 165 pound 10th-grader squatting 405, haha.  He was "all legs" though, could probably only bench 315.

Last night my kid put up 265lbs at 130lbs and he's a freshmen. Quit thinking on bodybuilding terms. Real strength training is the COMPLETE opposite.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: G_Thang on May 01, 2012, 08:13:26 AM
Last night my kid put up 265lbs at 130lbs and he's a freshmen. Quit thinking on bodybuilding terms. Real strength training is the COMPLETE opposite.

Post photos of your gym, or it didn't happen. 
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 01, 2012, 09:12:29 AM
Post photos of your gym, or it didn't happen. 

I'll post pics of the gym, not my kid.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: BIG ACH on May 01, 2012, 09:20:04 AM
I think your RB will be an achilles heel

Who? Helu? Hightower? Young? Whatchoo talkin about?
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Fury on May 01, 2012, 09:21:51 AM
This year will be different!  My skins are going all the way baby!  Just watch!

Been hearing that every year for longer than I can remember now. Lucky to get 3rd place in the division.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Hulkotron on May 01, 2012, 03:26:20 PM
Last night my kid put up 265lbs at 130lbs and he's a freshmen. Quit thinking on bodybuilding terms. Real strength training is the COMPLETE opposite.

If so then he should compete, he's on par with the USAPL record:

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=47bfe7f2-cbd4-47f8-bf04-3d0eadca4a8a

Raw record for 15 year-olds in 132-lb class is 264.5 pounds.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: BIG ACH on May 01, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
If so then he should compete, he's on par with the USAPL record:

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=47bfe7f2-cbd4-47f8-bf04-3d0eadca4a8a

Raw record for 15 year-olds in 132-lb class is 264.5 pounds.

Keep in mind strength training for football or endurance sports is very different than Powerlifting.  Its very different to put up 264 at a powerlifting meet with a pause or squatting ass deep.  And to put it up in an explosive movement, not factoring in any sort of pause just a power movement to mimic that of what you will be doing out on the football field as a lineman pushing other big mother fuckers around!
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 01, 2012, 04:10:01 PM
If so then he should compete, he's on par with the USAPL record:

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=47bfe7f2-cbd4-47f8-bf04-3d0eadca4a8a

Raw record for 15 year-olds in 132-lb class is 264.5 pounds.

He's 14 (turns 15 in May) he also pulled a 305lb DL on the trap bar. He had a hard time getting to 130, he be ecstatic if he could get to 132. LOL.

 


Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Bevo on May 01, 2012, 04:52:01 PM
Keep in mind strength training for football or endurance sports is very different than Powerlifting.  Its very different to put up 264 at a powerlifting meet with a pause or squatting ass deep.  And to put it up in an explosive movement, not factoring in any sort of pause just a power movement to mimic that of what you will be doing out on the football field as a lineman pushing other big mother fuckers around!


Dead skins suck and shall remain the bottom of the NFC east :D
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: BIG ACH on May 01, 2012, 07:57:50 PM

Dead skins suck and shall remain the bottom of the NFC east :D

Fuck off!!!  You shall see!! its gonna be a great year!!!  ;D
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on May 01, 2012, 10:05:55 PM
Skins need a new coach. Wrong guy for a guy like RG3.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 01, 2013, 08:25:09 PM
Washington sinks again.... Will WASH have open competition for teh starting QB job in 2014 training camp?

Or will RG3 be traded?
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: EastCoastChick on December 01, 2013, 08:29:34 PM
Washington sinks again.... Will WASH have open competition for teh starting QB job in 2014 training camp?

Or will RG3 be traded?

Cousins should have started the year, RG was not ready. Not that the team was going to playoffs if they did manage to pull out the win tonight, but the refs just screwed Washington.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Marty Champions on December 01, 2013, 08:37:38 PM
Last night my kid put up 265lbs at 130lbs and he's a freshmen. Quit thinking on bodybuilding terms. Real strength training is the COMPLETE opposite.
:o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 01, 2013, 08:58:15 PM
but the refs just screwed Washington.

 ::)

Will Hill screwed washington.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 01, 2013, 09:07:15 PM
That must he brutally emasculating...to have someone just rip the ball out of your hands and take it like it was your lunch money
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 01, 2013, 09:15:32 PM
That must he brutally emasculating...to have someone just rip the ball out of your hands and take it like it was your lunch money

pierre garcon is just not as good as he used to be.  not as smart either.  Get that ball and get to the ground.  I saw a lot of that today - players going for strips, knowing their peers have been playing ball since July... and dudes are tired and breaking down.  You can't get that strip in week 2, but you can get it in weeks 12 or 14.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 01, 2013, 09:19:14 PM
pierre garcon is just not as good as he used to be.  not as smart either.  Get that ball and get to the ground.  I saw a lot of that today - players going for strips, knowing their peers have been playing ball since July... and dudes are tired and breaking down.  You can't get that strip in week 2, but you can get it in weeks 12 or 14.

I hear that...that tenth of a second hesitation...just weariness, is the difference between a guy getting leverage on you or not.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: POB on December 01, 2013, 11:24:57 PM
on mentals alone.... he's gonna be better than Luck.


Ok ;D
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Option D on December 02, 2013, 02:59:05 PM
Ok ;D
Luck is out here stinking it up too...making horrible decisions..Wilson is the best one
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: arce1988 on December 02, 2013, 03:01:41 PM
rg4p is horrible

luck is playing like shit too   but I thought he was a brain?

wilson seems to have the brain and the feet


ck of san fran makes me scratch my head?
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 02, 2013, 06:04:58 PM
rookies were cocky and creative last year.  This year, teams have film on them, and those same cute 6 plays don't work anymore.  They'll e good again in 2-3 years when they have 30 plays they can choose from, like Manning can. 

RG3 will be solid again, maybe next year, or the year after in a new city.  But he's toast right now.  no confidence because he cannot outrun everyone like he's been able to do since pee wee football.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: arce1988 on December 02, 2013, 07:28:21 PM
there is a reason that option shit does NOT work in the NFL
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: CalvinH on December 03, 2013, 10:43:11 AM
Makes him look bad when you see him laughing after the game when talking to Eli.


...like he didn't care they lost.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: arce1988 on December 03, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
 yeah... I hated seeing Dwight smile after getting blown out by the worsts team in the NBA


 
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2013, 11:34:32 AM
Kirk Cousins is kicking ass with his chance at a start today.  2 TD and leading 17-7 over ATL.

Why would WASH trade away Cousins this off-season and fire coach?  WHy not just own the mistake and trade RG3?  Dude has shown himself to be a coach-killer, bullied his way into a start, and sucked.

Next year, the Redskins will have some scrub like Wade Phillips coaching, RG3 will blow out his knee in week 3, Kirk Cousins will be undefeated in Miami, and they'll be kicking themselves.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2013, 12:55:15 PM
Kirk Cousins is kicking ass with his chance at a start today.  2 TD and leading 17-7 over ATL.

Why would WASH trade away Cousins this off-season and fire coach?  WHy not just own the mistake and trade RG3?  Dude has shown himself to be a coach-killer, bullied his way into a start, and sucked.

Next year, the Redskins will have some scrub like Wade Phillips coaching, RG3 will blow out his knee in week 3, Kirk Cousins will be undefeated in Miami, and they'll be kicking themselves.
out here it's a fiasco. A Shanahan-RG3-Snyder three way. With all three having problems.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Branchs Ears on December 15, 2013, 01:15:32 PM
Kirk Cousins is kicking ass with his chance at a start today.  2 TD and leading 17-7 over ATL..


Why would WASH trade away Cousins this off-season and fire coach?  WHy not just own the mistake and trade RG3?  Dude has shown himself to be a coach-killer, bullied his way into a start, and sucked.

Next year, the Redskins will have some scrub like Wade Phillips coaching, RG3 will blow out his knee in week 3, Kirk Cousins will be undefeated in Miami, and they'll be kicking themselves.

Washington just missed a two point conversion with 18 seconds left that would have won the game. Ended up losing 27-26.
Cousins finished 29-45 for 381 yards and 3 touchdowns. When was the last time RG Fraud had a day like that?
Shanahan may be a grumpy fart but he's not dumb. He knows Cousins is the better quarterback and the kind of quarterback that can win in the league.
He had a pretty good idea this would happen. What a clusterfuck Washington is.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 15, 2013, 01:45:52 PM
RG-ME !
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2013, 01:48:29 PM
RG-ME !
"Limo rides for Wifey, and custom made mittens, these are a few of my favorite things..."
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2013, 02:00:36 PM
Washington just missed a two point conversion with 18 seconds left that would have won the game. Ended up losing 27-26.
Cousins finished 29-45 for 381 yards and 3 touchdowns. When was the last time RG Fraud had a day like that?
Shanahan may be a grumpy fart but he's not dumb. He knows Cousins is the better quarterback and the kind of quarterback that can win in the league.
He had a pretty good idea this would happen. What a clusterfuck Washington is.

pretty dumb to go for the win instead of tying and going to OT.   I didn't see highlights yet
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Branchs Ears on December 15, 2013, 02:06:50 PM
pretty dumb to go for the win instead of tying and going to OT.   I didn't see highlights yet

I agree. I would have went to overtime.
I wonder if Shanahan is actually going to say "I told you so" or just let Cousins' stats say it for him.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2013, 02:18:03 PM
I agree. I would have went to overtime.
I wonder if Shanahan is actually going to say "I told you so" or just let Cousins' stats say it for him.

I can just see Shanahan & Cousins going to BUF or MIA or Tampa next year & making the playoffs together.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Branchs Ears on December 15, 2013, 02:36:08 PM
I can just see Shanahan & Cousins going to BUF or MIA or Tampa next year & making the playoffs together.

Rumor is that Shanahan wants the Houston job. Just so happens they need a quarterback too.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2013, 02:44:57 PM
Rumor is that Shanahan wants the Houston job. Just so happens they need a quarterback too.

LOL that'd be classic.  I heard that about Shan too... trying to get fired so he can take that job.

Going for 2 instead of OT might be a "let's fire me already" move haha.... everyone sees Cousins kick ass, RG3 is exposed as completely inept.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Branchs Ears on December 15, 2013, 02:56:31 PM
LOL that'd be classic.  I heard that about Shan too... trying to get fired so he can take that job.

Going for 2 instead of OT might be a "let's fire me already" move haha.... everyone sees Cousins kick ass, RG3 is exposed as completely inept.

Yeah, Shanahan wants to be fired in the worst way. Snyder isn't going to do it before the season is over, but if Shanahan isn't fired that first week after the regular season is over I wouldn't be surprised to see him really turn it up a notch.....get "caught" on a security camera keying Snyder's car.....taking a dump on Snyder's desk......that kind of stuff.   ;D
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 15, 2013, 04:49:14 PM
Yeah, Shanahan wants to be fired in the worst way. Snyder isn't going to do it before the season is over, but if Shanahan isn't fired that first week after the regular season is over I wouldn't be surprised to see him really turn it up a notch.....get "caught" on a security camera keying Snyder's car.....taking a dump on Snyder's desk......that kind of stuff.   ;D

Go out like George Costanza!
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2013, 05:26:29 PM
Yeah, Shanahan wants to be fired in the worst way. Snyder isn't going to do it before the season is over, but if Shanahan isn't fired that first week after the regular season is over I wouldn't be surprised to see him really turn it up a notch.....get "caught" on a security camera keying Snyder's car.....taking a dump on Snyder's desk......that kind of stuff.   ;D

i bet Snyder is thinking, maybe 1% of him is thinking... "What can I get in a trade for RG3?"

IF IF IF Cousins is sensational (He was terrific today, right?)  Why not make him the safer bet, keep coach, and start winning?   RG3 isn't going to win next year.  Once he gets banged up, he can't run fast, his shit attitude shows, and he's useless.  He's tebow now.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 30, 2013, 08:18:39 AM
Shanahan has been FIRED.  Will he bring Cousins with him to the new city and win a ring?
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Thick Nick on December 30, 2013, 09:14:47 AM
That's amazing!  You were less than two pounds short of the USAPL squat record and blew away the bench record by nearly 30 pounds!!

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=f220e072-3e38-4f58-9462-762836cf20bb

 ::)

Lol. I love guys like this. It's the biggest fish theory. Your boy benches 275... By the time your 30, he was benching 500 like nothing lol.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on November 16, 2014, 10:33:36 AM
RG3 is gonna dominate the bucs today.  He'll probably throw 2 picks in the first quarter to get TB's confidence up, then BAM, he'll destroy them.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: ChristopherA on November 16, 2014, 10:45:52 AM
RG3 is gonna dominate the bucs today.  He'll probably throw 2 picks in the first quarter to get TB's confidence up, then BAM, he'll destroy them.
Dude's is a complete bust and you were blowing him in the beginning of this thread.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on November 16, 2014, 11:14:08 AM
Dude's is a complete bust and you were blowing him in the beginning of this thread.

Yes.   I underestimated his huge ego, and how fast his esteem would shatter when people like me stopped blowing him.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: The_Punisher on November 16, 2014, 01:50:36 PM
RG3 just prove he ain't gonna be in DC for long.....just saw the press conference and his coach finally show some balls and call him out......that's a start
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: polychronopolous on November 16, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
At what point does Washington put Colt back in there at QB?
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Redux on November 16, 2014, 02:57:07 PM
He's been a complete fraud since day one. He CANNOT throw the ball downfield. He dinks and dunks and has a decent completion percentage, but never any meaningful yardage.  Shannahan knew this from the minute he saw him and created an offense his first year that protected him. And they had a great running game his first year. But eventually that kind of quarterback will get exposed and it happened to the fraud. You will never win if you have to rely on him to play as a real quarterback in the league. Period. 
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Bevo on November 16, 2014, 03:39:06 PM
They should put colt McCoy back in  8)
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Bevo on November 16, 2014, 03:40:21 PM
RG3 is gonna dominate the bucs today.  He'll probably throw 2 picks in the first quarter to get TB's confidence up, then BAM, he'll destroy them.

U got the 2 picks part right  :D
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Hulkotron on November 16, 2014, 04:14:26 PM
Would have been traded or cut outright by now were he not a heeb.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: polychronopolous on November 16, 2014, 04:59:40 PM
They should put colt McCoy back in  8)

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/16/washington-fans-chant-for-colt-mccoy/

Washington fans chant for Colt McCoy

Washington had two weeks to get ready for the one-win Bucs.  And Washington is losing by 20.

The fans don’t like it.  And they don’t like the starting quarterback, Robert Griffin III.  Per multiple Twitter accounts of members of the media attending the game, the fans are clamoring for backup Colt McCoy.

“We want Colt” is the chant, and for good reason.  Griffin has been mediocre at best, completing 19 of 27 passes for 185 yards and two interceptions.  Griffin has been sacked six times.

On a fourth-quarter bubble screen to receiver DeSean Jackson, Griffin made a one-step drop — and then threw the ball into the dirt in front of Jackson.  (No worms were harmed in the filming of this highlight.)

McCoy beat the Titans after coming off the bench and then upended the Cowboys.  Griffin returned the following Sunday, losing to the Vikings and now getting drubbed by the Bucs.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: DanielPaul on November 16, 2014, 05:07:30 PM
They should put colt McCoy back in  8)
i literally named my youngest son after Colt McCoy, I loved watching texas play while he and ship were there.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on November 16, 2014, 05:13:49 PM
Tom Prince posed in Colt.  This means the RG3 thread is now officially bodybuilding related.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Bevo on November 16, 2014, 06:25:50 PM
Tom Prince posed in Colt.  This means the RG3 thread is now officially bodybuilding related.

 ;D it was a cold day
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Bevo on November 16, 2014, 06:30:27 PM
i literally named my youngest son after Colt McCoy, I loved watching texas play while he and ship were there.

They have been playing pretty good as of lately

Still can't get over that stupid alabama lost in 09  >:(
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: DanielPaul on November 16, 2014, 06:36:24 PM
They have been playing pretty good as of lately

Still can't get over that stupid alabama lost in 09  >:(
that game was pretty much the peak of Garrett Gilbert's career , was pretty upset with it too
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 16, 2014, 06:38:39 PM
He's been a complete fraud since day one. He CANNOT throw the ball downfield. He dinks and dunks and has a decent completion percentage, but never any meaningful yardage.  Shannahan knew this from the minute he saw him and created an offense his first year that protected him. And they had a great running game his first year. But eventually that kind of quarterback will get exposed and it happened to the fraud. You will never win if you have to rely on him to play as a real quarterback in the league. Period. 

good analysis
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: King Shizzo on November 17, 2014, 02:30:35 PM
He's been a complete fraud since day one. He CANNOT throw the ball downfield. He dinks and dunks and has a decent completion percentage, but never any meaningful yardage.  Shannahan knew this from the minute he saw him and created an offense his first year that protected him. And they had a great running game his first year. But eventually that kind of quarterback will get exposed and it happened to the fraud. You will never win if you have to rely on him to play as a real quarterback in the league. Period. 
I think its the opposite. All RG3 did in college was air it out at Baylor.

Its the shitty dink and dunk system the Redskins are forcing him to run. What also hurts Robert, is that he has lost a step from his two acl tears, and dislocated ankle.

He looks to be skiddish when he scrambles as well.

RG3 would be best in an all shotgun, run and shoot offense.

He does not excell in throwing screens and 5 yard outs.

Plus we should all remember that the Redskins have been a terrible franchise for many years now.

They are the Raiders of the NFC.

Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Thick Nick on November 27, 2014, 07:28:11 PM
RG3 will win a Superbowl with the Eagles next year. Mark my words. They will sign him off season and him running Chip Kelly's offense will be something no one has ever seen before. Washington just sucks as an organization and he had zero chance to succeed there. The Eagles are still a year away and this will be the most perfect marriage of player to system ever.

Watch and remember this thread... you heard it here first.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on November 27, 2014, 07:29:48 PM
RG3 will win a Superbowl with the Eagles next year. Mark my words. They will sign him off season and him running Chip Kelly's offense will be something no one has ever seen before. Washington just sucks as an organization and he had zero chance to succeed there. The Eagles are still a year away and this will be the most perfect marriage of player to system ever.

Watch and remember this thread... you heard it here first.

that'd be a great fit for him.  He can't be "the man" anymore, but plug him in with less pressure in a friendly place like that, and he could go very deep in playoffs.  Kelly is making Sanchise look like Joe Montana.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Bevo on November 27, 2014, 07:54:11 PM
RG3 will win a Superbowl with the Eagles next year. Mark my words. They will sign him off season and him running Chip Kelly's offense will be something no one has ever seen before. Washington just sucks as an organization and he had zero chance to succeed there. The Eagles are still a year away and this will be the most perfect marriage of player to system ever.

Watch and remember this thread... you heard it here first.

 ::) and who are u again??

Eagles winning the SB any time soon is very comical
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Hulkotron on November 27, 2014, 08:13:59 PM
I think its the opposite. All RG3 did in college was air it out at Baylor.

He passed for good yardage his Heisman year but "all he did was air it out" is not really accurate, you don't complete 72% of your passes airing it out against Division I FBS defenses every week.  A lot of his success in college could be attributed to his ability to avoid the rush even if they weren't drawing up options or designed runs for him all the time.  He definitely wasn't a traditional drop-back passer in college and he definitely hasn't shown the ability to do that in the NFL.

I am wondering when or if teams will stop trying this "dual-threat / athlete / scrambler" type-QB in the NFL.  It works great in college but NFL defenses are just too fast and athletic and hit too hard.  Michael Vick is a generational athlete and was able to make it sort of work for a few years, can't think of any other major successes.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 27, 2014, 08:45:03 PM
I would hope RG3 gets traded to the Rams for maximum hilarity, but the Eagles, and to a lesser extent, the Pats, are probably where he ends up
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: illuminati on November 27, 2014, 11:30:25 PM
That's amazing!  You were less than two pounds short of the USAPL squat record and blew away the bench record by nearly 30 pounds!!

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=f220e072-3e38-4f58-9462-762836cf20bb

 ::)











It Seems,
High school / college locker room Lifting Poundages are Similar
To Mr Olympia competitors Bodyweights & Measurements.

All Accurate & True.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on December 07, 2014, 03:33:07 PM
Jeff Fisher Taunts 'Skins With RG3 Trade Haul Before Game

he Rams shut out the 'Skins 24-0 today, but St. Louis head coach Jeff Fisher punked Washington before the game even started.

Remember when Washington traded up in the 2012 draft to get Robert Griffin III? Oh, Fisher remembers.


Fisher w/a little sense of humor. He sent Jenkins, Brockers, Stacy, Bailey, Robinson, Ogletree out for pregame coin toss at FedEx.

What's the meaning of all that? All six were acquired as result of the RGIII trade.

http://deadspin.com/jeff-fisher-taunts-skins-with-rg3-trade-haul-before-gam-1668003792
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Hulkotron on December 07, 2014, 03:59:31 PM
^^ Haha, that's hilarious :D
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Nails on August 31, 2015, 07:20:40 AM
Healthy , and lost his starting job to kirk Cousins


Skins looking to maybe cut RG3 before season starts

BIG _Ach wont like this
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2015, 08:12:09 AM
RG3 could be good somewhere else if he starts as 3rd string and takes a year to really learn the NFL offense. 

"making shit up on the fly" works fine in college if you're talented, but you lose a half-step in the NFL (which he did, and then some), they're gonna crush you.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: King Shizzo on August 31, 2015, 08:17:21 AM
RG3 could be good somewhere else if he starts as 3rd string and takes a year to really learn the NFL offense. 

"making shit up on the fly" works fine in college if you're talented, but you lose a half-step in the NFL (which he did, and then some), they're gonna crush you.
He definitely needs a change of scenery. He is in a toxic situation with a terrible franchise that clearly does not want him (minus the owner) 

I think he should get a fair shake on another team, before we decide that he is a bust.

The Redskins would be a terrible environment for any QB.  The organization has become a joke.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 31, 2015, 08:51:41 AM
It was a horrible draft choice.  Hard to take a running QB and turn him into a traditional Pocket passer.  Plus when you're drafted so high you're going to a shitty team.  People will say what about Russell Wilson, yeah , but he went to an already winning team
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Yamcha on August 31, 2015, 08:59:01 AM
Unfortunately, if you go team by team in the NFL there isn't a good fit for RGIII. Maybe the Bills, just because Rex Ryan loves the idea of a dual threat quarterback.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 31, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
Unfortunately, if you go team by team in the NFL there isn't a good fit for RGIII. Maybe the Bills, just because Rex Ryan loves the idea of a dual threat quarterback.

I bet Chip Kelly is on the phone
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: King Shizzo on August 31, 2015, 09:02:38 AM
Unfortunately, if you go team by team in the NFL there isn't a good fit for RGIII. Maybe the Bills, just because Rex Ryan loves the idea of a dual threat quarterback.
Anywhere but the Redskins would be a good start. He isn't 100% innocent in this situation with his diva attitude, sub-par play, and multiple injuries, but it appears that he is being put into a position to fail at this point.

I would like to see what the kid has with a fresh start.
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: Yamcha on August 31, 2015, 09:04:28 AM
I bet Chip Kelly is on the phone

Already spent too much for another fragile qb in Bradford. If RGIII comes cheap, then yes, that would be the ideal landing spot!
Title: Re: RG3
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2015, 09:29:20 AM
I bet Chip Kelly is on the phone

they can use a whole stable of QBs.  yes, it's rough on them and yes, they may lose 2 starters during the season.

but having a fresh QB in mid-november with starter experience might not be a bad thing.