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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: galeniko on April 30, 2012, 02:27:17 PM
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I train 5 times a week whether I`m on or off.............training is a big part of my life and daily routine.
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I still hit the gym. I just remember to control myself and not train as hard.
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I still train when off.
Other than in the actual gym, I feel better mentally and physically when off cycle.
Training isn't as fun with less pump and less strength, but it is to be expected.
Things like IGF1 help make it more enjoyable for me, at least bringing a little pump back to it.
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i can understand, you need the 2 other days for drinking ;D
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Too funny bro!! LOL ;D
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i can understand, you need the 2 other days for drinking ;D
jk
i have bit different routines when off/on.
when im on, i go 6 times weekly, as intense as possible.
when im off, i go 3 times and do more cardio instead.
i eat less clean when off, because if i do that while on, my cholesterol stuff goes through the roof :(
Cholesterol is easily controlled. You puts drugs into your body yet you are uninformed about countering the sides. You have a lot to learn. Probably should stay away from gear until you know what you are doing, seriously.
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Cholesterol is easily controlled. You puts drugs into your body yet you are uninformed about countering the sides. You have a lot to learn. Probably should stay away from gear until you know what you are doing, seriously.
Can you tell us how this is done?
I have been using AAS for ten years and have lipid issues when on cycle.
Yes, I use flush niacin and all the other OTC commonly known supps for cholesterol. What am I missing?
could it be possible that some people just have shit cholesterol?
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you should stay away from giving advice to people period, you ox ::)
so, youre claiming people can do steroids, follow a shit diet and their bloodwork will be fine, as long they use your -as of now unnamed- recipe? ::)
are you saying youve got the recipe "one size fits all" solution? ::)
perhaps you shouldve warned all the pros who had massive sideeffects.
why dont you go and choke on some semen. ::)
where is the 1 million rolleyes smilie when you need it
Truth hurts. Live and learn, I don't have time for newbees.
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Can you tell us how this is done?
I have been using AAS for ten years and have lipid issues when on cycle.
Yes, I use flush niacin and all the other OTC commonly known supps for cholesterol. What am I missing?
could it be possible that some people just have shit cholesterol?
only something like 5-10% of the population is affected by dietary cholesterol IIRC, something the drug companies put in the tiniest of tiny writing on their shitty cholesterol meds... but if you're one of those unlucky ones then you can't eat endless meat and raw eggs unless you want to take meds :(
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Can you tell us how this is done?
I have been using AAS for ten years and have lipid issues when on cycle.
Yes, I use flush niacin and all the other OTC commonly known supps for cholesterol. What am I missing?
could it be possible that some people just have shit cholesterol?
What type of dosages are you running?
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is that fatso you in the avatar?
if yes, is this supposed to look impressive? :)
come share your knowledge, guru, show me the way ::)
Standard Getbig issue avi. Calm down clown. Sit back and learn.
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Only started using gear since late 2010. On 2nd cycle now. I always train 3-4 time a week, 2 body parts per workout. Only thing that changes when off is a little less volume. Plus, i gradually reduce the food intake during that time, and get multiple checkups.
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Be a man and dont come off
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galienko,,,i like this guy,,,good poster.kinda like optimus prime...
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everyone will come off one day.
ive had my times where i wouldnt come off for 2 years and always be on 1gramm no matter what.
but guess what will happen one day?
the gains will stagnate, or youll start to look worse and no dosage nor stack will help anymore.
the only thing that will increase at that point is the sideeffects.
the only bodypart which will make gains will be the gut.
young grasshopper, you will eventualy find out for yourself one day and then look back and think"man, galeniko was right back then"
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i know, saying "just never come off" makes you feel tough guy and all, but give it some time.
hi njflex, thanks.and, likewise 8)
Mix it up with compounds up the doses down the doses but dont come off. Ill come off the day I die cos Im one TOUGH guy. ;D S
Seriously when I do come off I taper it down to avoid a crash, not such a fan of PCTs might give a PCT another go next time. I try and train through but its obviously never as good which you have to be prepared for. One guy I know went cold turky after being on a couple of grams within a couple of weeks he was crying and depressed. :'(
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what is this "coming off" some people are talking about?
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well, i do, because its the most demanding part.
test levels of an eunuch, shrinking daily, being weaker every onsecutive workout, pump is pathetic, the list could go on forever.
i used to never even go near a gym when i came off the juice, all the way until i started gear again, thinking all gains would go the hell anway.
but this was a huge mistake and frankly, its the mentality of a pussy.
if you dont go to the gym while being off, then you are plainly a drug addict and havent got the spirit of a bbuilder.
opinions?
ps: this doesnt mean i admire natties, lol.they have no say in this, they dont know how shit it is to come off.
if someone doesnt train when he's off, that means he truly isnt a bodybuilder..
to be a bodybuilder, you need to love the sport ( or whatever you wanna call it), whether its cold,hot,snowing, you gotta love going to the gym, you gotta love lifting weights... being on gear is just an added bonus
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It's hard as hell! I feel very lethargic but it is a must. usually I am so burnt out because of the training on gear is way more intense. off gear I find myself at the gym taking more time between sets yawning. I know everybody thinks OTC supps are crap but I usually run my DHEA and trib and load some vitargo and that gives me some energy.
I swear vitargo(waxy starch maize) plus a good creatine works for me! I can feel the strength. my gains dont go to total shit if I use DHEA,Trib and load some vitargo or EAS phosphagen.
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what is this "coming off" some people are talking about?
its that period of time when finances are low , or dealer on holiday
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I usually start a powerlifting type routine when I come off just to try to maintain strength. I've noticed its impossible to keep the size and fullness but if you train for it you can actually gain or maintain some strength at least until the next cycle. I only try to build actual muscle while on though
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its when you lower the dosage to 1 gramm weekly ;D
Holy shit, why would anyone be this crazy?? :o :o :o :o :o :o
;D ;D ;D
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hm, whitewiddow, the lethergy thing, for me, when im on steroids, i feel lethargig and lazy and tired, but thats often misleading.
often when i go to the gym feeling like that, id break all previous records in lifts, pump intensity etc.
what im saying is i feel lethargic on steroids often, but once im in the gym and warmed up, it suddenly changes.
haha, but when off, its the opposite.
i feel like full of energy and all, then i go to the gym and hardly an pump happens and the lifts are pathetic ;D
I agree, i always felt better off, looked better overall too. Came off for good and it was hard for a few months but once i was normal i couldn't go back.
You are putting more pressure on your body, not to mention extra stress from lifting heavier, it adds up and makes you feel tired.
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its that period of time when finances are low , or dealer on holiday
QFT lol
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Three days per week with 45 minutes of cardio added. Im just trying to maintain some strength and a little bit of size. And the week before I go back on I take that entire week off
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everyone will come off one day.
ive had my times where i wouldnt come off for 2 years and always be on 1gramm no matter what.
but guess what will happen one day?
the gains will stagnate, or youll start to look worse and no dosage nor stack will help anymore.
the only thing that will increase at that point is the sideeffects.
the only bodypart which will make gains will be the gut.
young grasshopper, you will eventualy find out for yourself one day and then look back and think"man, galeniko was right back then"
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i know, saying "just never come off" makes you feel tough guy and all, but give it some time.
hi njflex, thanks.and, likewise 8)
I personally know a few fellas who basically haven't been "off" for like 20-25years str8. All good and dandy, jacked and healthy.
Not to say everyone should repeat this, but - it's far from obsolete..
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Always train, on or off, lower the frequency and weight while off. More cardio sessions while off.
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well, i do, because its the most demanding part.
test levels of an eunuch, shrinking daily, being weaker every onsecutive workout, pump is pathetic, the list could go on forever.
i used to never even go near a gym when i came off the juice, all the way until i started gear again, thinking all gains would go the hell anway.
but this was a huge mistake and frankly, its the mentality of a pussy.
if you dont go to the gym while being off, then you are plainly a drug addict and havent got the spirit of a bbuilder.
opinions?
ps: this doesnt mean i admire natties, lol.they have no say in this, they dont know how shit it is to come off.
Agree.
Its means your genetics suck and you rely on drugs to compensate with your shitty genetics lol.
I train 4-5 days a week either ON or OFF and I look great, just "slimmer" when off.
Not training when youre "off" is nonsense and stupidity.
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i always lose strength at first, then gradually get it back to where i left off..takes up to 6 months though. when im at about the same place i was whilst on gear, while off, i plan another cycle.
i actually train harder when off, for some reason. less frequent, but i tend to bust my ass more.
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yes, i know one guy who was on for some 20years straight.
he developed brain cancer, and had it treated and made it out alive.
docs said he only survived because he was strong and big before the treatment.
nomad, thanks for that valueable contribution :P
This reminds me of my friend who recently fell down the concrete stair. Doctors said he'd probably have snapped his neck if not all the muscle mass he has, so he came out with just a strain, and the fall was pretty damn horrible.
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Almost all guys stop training when they stop juicing because as one said to me, " It's a waste of time training without drugs." I found a lot of the guys that claimed they stopped and still train are only taking a short break in between cycles. I don't consider a 4 to 6 weeks off drugs to be truly off. Maybe 4 to 6 months is. Taking 4 weeks off after being 4 months on and repeating that cycle isn't exactly training clean.
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recovery biggest issue when off, just train every second day and a bodypart once a weekly, with cardio each day in between. You need to come off for many reasons, keep an eye on bloodwork when on and off and get to know your body and what you can get away with taking without huge change in your bloodwork. Self knowledge is the key with long term use.
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recovery biggest issue when off, just train every second day and a bodypart once a weekly, with cardio each day in between. You need to come off for many reasons, keep an eye on bloodwork when on and off and get to know your body and what you can get away with taking without huge change in your bloodwork. Self knowledge is the key with long term use.
This is a wise way to use gear and a good advice, but honestly, every single one juicehead that has been using for a few decades I know hasn't ever got a single bloodwork, just like gh15 said many times - some may, but most - rely on their "genetics" lol..
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This reminds me of my friend who recently fell down the concrete stair. Doctors said he'd probably have snapped his neck if not all the muscle mass he has, so he came out with just a strain, and the fall was pretty damn horrible.
Same thing happened to me, fell off a roof. Got hurt pretty good, but the docs said my muscle saved my life, I should have broken my neck and my back. Got PAID too...ha ha
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Why come off at all?
Just blast and cruise.
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I train 5 times a week whether I`m on or off.............training is a big part of my life and daily routine.
As it should be - it's mostly about joy and doing it.
Too many folks have too high of an expectation and lack physical talent.
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when i come off steroids i want to give my body so i do not train just relax and eat because once you go back on you are big and ripped in no time so why waste the energy.
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When off you can't go balls to wall, especially if over 30, more injury prone
But training is like a ritual, its fun, and a hobby, obviously when off you don't make same gains, and harder to maintain muscle/control bf
But some people make it sound like training is a burden, a schlep
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I never had a problem with training while off cycle. Sure you aren't as strong and the workouts aren't the same, but i still enjoy lifting while being clean. I watch what i eat and always get blood work every 3 months or so.
I actually make decent progress when I'm clean, a lot of it is in your head and you need to push yourself no matter if you are on 3g's or clean.
8)
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Steroid bb=posers/phonies
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Steroid bb=posers/phonies
natural bb = insecure little twinks.
::) ::)
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are you the kind of guy who can tell apart natural and steroid muscles?haha
Steroid muscles look "fake". ::) ::)
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I still train exactly the same. Which is circuit light and 15 reps. I feel good and life is nice ...
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well, i do, because its the most demanding part.
test levels of an eunuch, shrinking daily, being weaker every onsecutive workout, pump is pathetic, the list could go on forever.
i used to never even go near a gym when i came off the juice, all the way until i started gear again, thinking all gains would go the hell anway.
but this was a huge mistake and frankly, its the mentality of a pussy.
if you dont go to the gym while being off, then you are plainly a drug addict and havent got the spirit of a bbuilder.
opinions?
ps: this doesnt mean i admire natties, lol.they have no say in this, they dont know how shit it is to come off.
Thats the pussy way out. So you are the epitome of all drugs?
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Newsflash;
In your teenage years, in your 20s, you have more testosterone and more energy to lift weights, you spend your whole life focusing on "how to prove you re smarter, stronger, faster than other males in order to get the best looking female /reproductive mate" then come the 30s and you -are suposed to- have other, more mature, developped, various interests in life. Testosterone production NATURALLY decreases, as do libido etc. The meaning of life/ kids question is suposed to pop out -for those who actually were able to start a meaningful relationship with a woman, less and less common nowadays in our degenerate atheist societies full of teens trapped in grown ups bodies raised by hysterical single moms-. You re not suposed to be self centered anymore, you re suposed to have developped a deeper understanding of life, you re supposed to have more responsabilities, to be able to contribute to society, a family.
Some immature, faithless men cant deal with that reality and go the steroid, viagra, hair implant, big stuff buying, cheating on your "girlfriend(s)" route to stay "in the race" with the youngest males. Insecure, ignorant losers who developed no real skills whatsoever, who are unable to create or maintain significant relationships with others. Those males are called losers. Their role models they try to imitate every day are fucking tv soaps characters. They find no rest, no peace in any of their vain endeavours the harder they try, ironically. They re just looking at something they need, where it actually isnt.
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Newsflash;
in your teenage years, in your 20s, you have more testosterone and more energy to lift weight, then come the 30s and you -are suposed to- have other, more mature, developped, various interests in life.
Some immature, faithless men cant deal with that reality and go the steroid, viagra, hair implant, big stuff buying route to stay "in the race" with the youngest males. Insecure, ignorant losers who developed no real skills whatsoever, who are unable to create or maintain significant relationships with others.
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seriously man, why do come here?
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Newsflash;
in your teenage years, in your 20s, you have more testosterone and more energy to lift weight, then come the 30s and you -are suposed to- have other, more mature, developped, various interests in life.
Some immature, faithless men cant deal with that reality and go the steroid, viagra, hair implant, big stuff buying route to stay "in the race" with the youngest males. Insecure, ignorant losers who developed no real skills whatsoever, who are unable to create or maintain significant relationships with others.
What is wrong with training while natural? What is wrong with living a healthy lifestyle, and wanting to be in shape? So people should only exercise while on roids? Stop over analyzing shit dick head.
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I train 5 times a week whether I`m on or off.............training is a big part of my life and daily routine.
Read: I train 5 times a week whether I can afford dugs or not.....I'm un employed and training helps me whittle away the empty hours of my pointless life and makes me feel like I have a daily routine.
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What is wrong with training while natural? What is wrong with living a healthy lifestyle, and wanting to be in shape? So people should only exercise while on roids? Stop over analyzing shit dick head.
where did i say it is wrong to train while natural ? I actually advocate to do it all life long in most of my posts retard. I'm simply saying that between not training at all, and training obsessively , exageratly to hide psychological insecurities there s a right middle to be found.
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Read: I train 5 times a week whether I can afford dugs or not.....I'm un employed and training helps me whittle away the empty hours of my pointless life and makes me feel like I have a daily routine.
ouch, brutal truth.