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Marriage (E-Mail from Mr. Obama)
May 9, 2012 | Barack H. Obama
Posted on May 9, 2012 9:45:44 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Today, I was asked a direct question and gave a direct answer:
I believe that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.
I hope you'll take a moment to watch the conversation, consider it, and weigh in yourself on behalf of marriage equality:
http://my.barackobama.com/Marriage
I've always believed that gay and lesbian Americans should be treated fairly and equally. I was reluctant to use the term marriage because of the very powerful traditions it evokes. And I thought civil union laws that conferred legal rights upon gay and lesbian couples were a solution.
But over the course of several years I've talked to friends and family about this. I've thought about members of my staff in long-term, committed, same-sex relationships who are raising kids together. Through our efforts to end the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, I've gotten to know some of the gay and lesbian troops who are serving our country with honor and distinction.
What I've come to realize is that for loving, same-sex couples, the denial of marriage equality means that, in their eyes and the eyes of their children, they are still considered less than full citizens.
Even at my own dinner table, when I look at Sasha and Malia, who have friends whose parents are same-sex couples, I know it wouldn't dawn on them that their friends' parents should be treated differently.
So I decided it was time to affirm my personal belief that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.
I respect the beliefs of others, and the right of religious institutions to act in accordance with their own doctrines. But I believe that in the eyes of the law, all Americans should be treated equally. And where states enact same-sex marriage, no federal act should invalidate them.
If you agree, you can stand up with me here.
Thank you,
Barack
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/gay-marriage-reversal-means-cash-for-obama
Like I said - it's all about money for Obama.
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GAY FOR PAY (Obama "evolves" on gay marriage just hours after donors threatened to withhold funds)
Washington Free Beacon ^ | May 9, 2012 | Washington Free Beacon Staff
Posted on May 9, 2012 11:49:10 PM EDT by Qbert
President Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage less than 48 hours after the Washington Post reported that prominent political donors were threatening to withhold donations over the president’s position on gay rights.
“[A]t a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,” Obama told ABC News in an interview.
Left-wing blogger Greg Sargent reported on Monday that “leading gay and progressive donors” were angry with Obama over his increasingly convoluted position on gay rights and same-sex marriage, and were refusing to donate any more money to Priorities USA, the pro-Obama Super PAC. Sargent cited Paul Yandura, a political adviser to prominent Democratic donor Jonathan Lewis, who emailed that:
A number of gay and progressive donors, unsolicited, have indicated to us that they aren’t considering requests to donate to the Obama SuperPac because of the president’s refusal to the sign the order. And those are high-dollar asks, some in the seven digits. We have heard from at least half a dozen major gay and progressive donors that they stand united with us.
The Washington Post noted on Tuesday that roughly 20 percent of Obama top campaign bundlers—who are responsible for arranging $500,000 and up—“publicly identified themselves as gay.”
Obama’s announcement fits a pattern of changing positions on major issues for what appear to be financially motivated reasons.
The president in February publicly renounced his opposition to Democratic Super PACs such as Priorities USA, groups capable of raising large amount of money from anonymous sources.
Obama had previously denounced Super PACs as “shadowy groups with harmless sounding names” that pose “a threat to our democracy” because they allow wealthy donors outsized influence on the political process.
Four years ago, Obama became the first presidential candidate in history to reject public campaign financing, despite pledges he would not do so.
UPDATE: The liberal Talking Points Memo reports that one Obama bundler, Jon Cooper, said the president’s announcement will make fundraising for the re-election campaign “immeasurably easier.”
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Don't worry. I am sure in his next term he will stand up and support marriage to imaginary girlfriends.
So there is hope for you yet.
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Don't worry. I am sure in his next term he will stand up and support marriage to imaginary girlfriends.
So there is hope for you yet.
He is going down, literally and figuratively. No incumbent has ever been re-elected with his numbers.
Say goodbye to your cult messiah. He is going away.
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And what happens when he doesn't?
You put another 4 years of your sad little life on hold to post on the internet all day long?
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And what happens when he doesn't?
You put another 4 years of your sad little life on hold to post on the internet all day long?
333... doesnt really want Obama to go way his life would be meaningless if he did
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Do You Believe Obama Actually Changed His Mind About Gay Marriage?
I don’t.
By David Plotz|Posted Wednesday, May 9, 2012, at 6:57 PM ET
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/05/obama_s_gay_marriage_stance_do_you_believe_he_changed_his_mind_.html
Did Barack Obama "evolve" on gay marriage or has he always been for it?
Saul Loeb/AFP/GettyImages
President Obama is no more hypocritical than the next politician—especially if the next one is Mitt Romney—but he certainly is a hypocrite. So while I’m thrilled to celebrate his support for gay marriage, as little as it means legally, I’m irked by his all-too-eloquent conversion story.
In his interview with ABC News, the president recounted a change of heart on gay marriage. He said his thinking had evolved “over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors.” He talked of having observed members of his own staff “in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together.” He referenced conversations with his wife, who agrees with him. And of course he invoked the troops: “those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage.”
Do you believe that—through exposure to these people—the president has actually changed his mind on gay marriage? I don’t. He has always supported it.
Everything about his history—his progressive politics, his civil rights activism, his own heritage—strongly indicates that he would favor gay marriage. Oh, and then there is the fact that he said he supported gay marriage, unequivocally. In 1996, as a state senate candidate, Obama wrote and signed a survey declaring: “I favor legalizing same sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages.” When he ran for president, Obama denied support for gay marriage while endorsing civil unions, and circulated an obviously bushwah story disavowing the 1996 survey, claiming someone else had filled it out. (No matter that Obama signed it.) Liberal Democrats accepted his cover story—and his obvious hypocrisy—because they knew that supporting gay marriage would have been politically fatal to his 2008 prospects. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more.
There is no elegant way to own up to past hypocrisy. But perhaps we shouldn’t spend too much time congratulating the president on his “evolution.” When he decided to pursue higher office, he made the wrong decision on gay marriage for political convenience. Now, he is making the right decision on gay marriage, and also for political convenience. He has known that gay marriage was right for at least 16 years—a lot longer than most Americans, including me. Let’s not praise him too much for finally speaking out about it today.
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Black voters divided on gay marriage
By: Joseph Williams
May 9, 2012 06:39 PM EDT
African-Americans voted 2-1 in favor of the North Carolina amendment banning gay marriage Tuesday, but the White House is betting that black voters there and beyond will stick with the president, despite broad resistance to legalization.
While there’s faith that African-Americans will turn out strong at the polls to protect Obama’s legacy, pollsters point out that while opposition to same-sex marriages has fallen in the black community, it’s still just a point shy of 50 percent — enough to affect black turnout, at least theoretically, in an election where every vote will matter.
Obama’s statement rocked the political world. But it also underscored a widely held belief that African-American voters are closer to Republicans than Democrats when it comes to gay marriage.
“A lot of the people that I have spoken to that are self-identified Democrats are completely and totally against gay marriage — they believe it’s a sin,” said Michelle Bernard, president of the Bernard Center for Women, Politics and Public Policy.
In North Carolina in 2008, black turnout was the engine that propelled Obama to a key swing-state victory; the president captured over 95 percent of that vote, according to exit polls. On Tuesday, however, reports from North Carolina indicate a majority of black voters cast ballots for Amendment 1, defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman, and effectively nullifying the rights of same-sex partners.
A coalition of conservative activists and African-American ministers helped drive black turnout, according to reports. Ad campaigns on both sides compared the vote to African-Americans’ struggle for civil rights — a move that many black voters opposed to the initiative saw as offensive.
Yet a Pew Center poll released in April showed that the African-American community has softened in its opposition to gay marriage: In a 2008 survey, 67 percent of respondents said they didn’t approve of it, but in 2012 that number had dropped to 49 percent.
Aisha Moodie-Mills, an African-American and gay rights activist who spearheaded a movement to legalize gay marriage in Washington, D.C., thinks the community’s evolution was actually ahead of the president’s.
“I do not believe the black community is any more homophobic than any other community. It is not in my experience,” said Moodie-Mills, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, who noted that the amendment was part of the state’s Republican primary, drawing more black conservatives.
Still, “there is an education process that needs to happen” that’s reflected in the North Carolina vote, and Obama’s change of heart, she said.
Democratic pollster Cornell Belcher said Obama shouldn’t worry about black voters abandoning him over the issue.
“The fairness argument — that gays are being discriminated against — is one that gives African-Americans a great deal of pause,” said Belcher, noting that African-Americans have remained firmly behind Obama even though the black unemployment rate is nearly double that of whites. “The history of black people in this country had been one of fighting for fairness and equality.”
“I wouldn’t say it’s a nonissue,” he said. “But on the list of things that keep me up at night worrying about Obama’s reelection, it’s really low on the list.”
An earlier version of this story had Moodie-Mills’ and Belcher’s names spelled incorrectly.
© 2012 POLITICO LLC
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Black voters divided on gay marriage
By: Joseph Williams
May 9, 2012 06:39 PM EDT
African-Americans voted 2-1 in favor of the North Carolina amendment banning gay marriage Tuesday, but the White House is betting that black voters there and beyond will stick with the president, despite broad resistance to legalization.
While there’s faith that African-Americans will turn out strong at the polls to protect Obama’s legacy, pollsters point out that while opposition to same-sex marriages has fallen in the black community, it’s still just a point shy of 50 percent — enough to affect black turnout, at least theoretically, in an election where every vote will matter.
Obama’s statement rocked the political world. But it also underscored a widely held belief that African-American voters are closer to Republicans than Democrats when it comes to gay marriage.
“A lot of the people that I have spoken to that are self-identified Democrats are completely and totally against gay marriage — they believe it’s a sin,” said Michelle Bernard, president of the Bernard Center for Women, Politics and Public Policy.
In North Carolina in 2008, black turnout was the engine that propelled Obama to a key swing-state victory; the president captured over 95 percent of that vote, according to exit polls. On Tuesday, however, reports from North Carolina indicate a majority of black voters cast ballots for Amendment 1, defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman, and effectively nullifying the rights of same-sex partners.
A coalition of conservative activists and African-American ministers helped drive black turnout, according to reports. Ad campaigns on both sides compared the vote to African-Americans’ struggle for civil rights — a move that many black voters opposed to the initiative saw as offensive.
Yet a Pew Center poll released in April showed that the African-American community has softened in its opposition to gay marriage: In a 2008 survey, 67 percent of respondents said they didn’t approve of it, but in 2012 that number had dropped to 49 percent.
Aisha Moodie-Mills, an African-American and gay rights activist who spearheaded a movement to legalize gay marriage in Washington, D.C., thinks the community’s evolution was actually ahead of the president’s.
“I do not believe the black community is any more homophobic than any other community. It is not in my experience,” said Moodie-Mills, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, who noted that the amendment was part of the state’s Republican primary, drawing more black conservatives.
Still, “there is an education process that needs to happen” that’s reflected in the North Carolina vote, and Obama’s change of heart, she said.
Democratic pollster Cornell Belcher said Obama shouldn’t worry about black voters abandoning him over the issue.
“The fairness argument — that gays are being discriminated against — is one that gives African-Americans a great deal of pause,” said Belcher, noting that African-Americans have remained firmly behind Obama even though the black unemployment rate is nearly double that of whites. “The history of black people in this country had been one of fighting for fairness and equality.”
“I wouldn’t say it’s a nonissue,” he said. “But on the list of things that keep me up at night worrying about Obama’s reelection, it’s really low on the list.”
An earlier version of this story had Moodie-Mills’ and Belcher’s names spelled incorrectly.
© 2012 POLITICO LLC
32 times this has gone to the ballot and 32 times gay "marriage" supporters got the brakes beaten off them.
As for blacks being divided on this issue, what a joke. I guess these crackpots in the media forgot that there was a marriage amendment vote less than 48 hours ago in North Carolina. To the surprise of no one, the amendment easily passed.
Blacks being divided....tell that to the black people in NC where they voted for the amendment by over a 2 to 1 margin.
Predominantly black counties were voting for this amendment to the tune of over 70 percent. And, this has happened in other states like Florida and California.
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Obama must be desperate if he felt this was a good idea. Take a look at the following article. Its not just North Carolina where this could be problematic.
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Obama's seven states of gay marriage grief
By: Charles Mahtesian
May 10, 2012 04:45 AM EDT
If there’s been one constant over the course of President Barack Obama’s evolution on gay marriage, it’s this: The White House’s keen awareness of the radioactive politics of the issue.
Obama aides fretted that delay would dent his new-breed brand, and likewise that plunging in could weigh him down in battleground states. They even hatched a plan to announce his support just prior to the Democratic National Convention — a characteristically all-in-good-time solution that acknowledged the minefield he was walking through.
And the White House is right to be concerned.
No doubt, Obama gets some political pluses out of supporting same-sex marriage Wednesday — energizing LGBT voters and donors, adding a new line to his Mitt Romney’s-a-throwback brief, kick-starting college turnout or in simply reminding people that yes, he came to Washington to do big things.
But for all the polls showing movement toward greater public acceptance of gay marriage, for all the signs of increased tolerance and changing mores, there’s one undeniable fact: A full embrace of gay rights has never been a winner in the political arena.
(See also: 20 gay rights milestones)
Fifteen years of ballot measures in more than 30 states from coast-to-coast show an issue that has been rejected nearly every time it’s gone before the voters — often by large margins.
Here are seven states where Obama just bought himself headaches with his historic decision to back gay marriage:
North Carolina
A political rule of thumb: You don’t want to be on the wrong side of an issue supported by 6-in-10 voters. But that’s where the president is in North Carolina, where a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage passed Tuesday by 61 percent to 39 percent. Just seven of the state’s 100 counties opposed the ballot measure.
North Carolina is no ordinary state. In 2012, it occupies a central location in the political universe — it’s not only a key swing state, it’s the place that will host the Democratic National Convention this summer. Obama won it in 2008, arguably his biggest reach on Election Night, and hoped accepting his re-nomination there would keep it in his column.
But the state was a pretty shaky proposition for Obama this year already, and it just got shakier. After the constitutional amendment — and the backlash against it from gay rights activists — the Democratic National Convention Committee was forced Wednesday to confirm that the convention would remain in Charlotte. That’s not the convention messaging that Democrats are looking for this year.
Florida
One day, gay marriage might be enshrined in law across the map. But it won’t be until after the current generation of senior citizens passes away. Not only do they oppose it by lopsided margins, they also vote in disproportionately high percentages.
Consider this fact about Florida, a state with an unusually large population of seniors. Four years ago, Obama and an anti-gay marriage constitutional amendment shared the Florida ballot. Obama won the state narrowly, the amendment won by a landslide.
And the amendment won 600,000 more votes than Obama.
The president can still win reelection without Florida’s treasure trove of electoral votes. But he’d prefer not to risk it, which could be the side effect of a public affirmation of support for gay marriage in a state as competitive as Florida.
Colorado
The new capital of evangelicalism? No, it’s not in the South. It’s Colorado Springs, according to Christianity Today magazine, which once described the city as having “more megachurches, megaseminaries, and mega-Christian activity than any other American city.”
After Denver, Colorado Springs is the largest city in the most important state in the Mountain West — the city is bigger than Cleveland or Pittsburgh. Gay marriage is an issue that resonates there among Christian conservatives and it’s the kind of issue that can get evangelical voters very enthusiastic about the prospect of voting for Romney.
The evidence of that came in 2006, when Colorado voters passed an amendment to outlaw gay marriage — a measure strongly supported by the Colorado Springs-based Focus on the Family. While the state voted in favor of the constitutional amendment, 55 percent to 45 percent, in Colorado Springs’ El Paso County the numbers were far greater — 66 percent voted for the measure. More pro-amendment votes were cast there than in any other county in the state.
Colorado is the kind of place that helps Team Obama sleep a little more soundly at night because it’s a hedge in case Florida flips back Republican, or Ohio or Virginia drifts back to red. Any leg up for Romney there would be bad news back in Chicago.
Nevada
Utah may be the LDS heartland but Nevada ranks among the top five states in terms of percentage of Mormon population. And the LDS church opposes gay marriage.
While Mormons aren’t a significant Democratic constituency — and especially not with Romney in the race — it’s best not to antagonize any constituency in a swing state like Nevada, where the presidential outcome in 2000 and 2004 was decided by less than 25,000 votes.
“Overall in Nevada, it hurts. To what degree is hard to determine,” said Pete Ernaut, a former GOP state legislator and a confidant of Gov. Brian Sandoval. “The issue here is about a tossup, with voters about evenly split. But that said, there are key constituencies affected by this, most notably Mormon voters — and specifically Democratic Mormon voters — and that is going to be a difficult issue for the president.”
Iowa
In 2009, the Iowa Supreme Court made history with its unanimous decision to allow same-sex marriage.
One year later, Iowa voters made history again by ousting three of the justices who handed down that ruling.
The backlash was as extreme as it sounds: their removal from the high court was the first time an Iowa Supreme Court justice wasn’t retained in nearly a half-century.
And the issue echoed through the 2010 governor’s race as well. Republican Terry Branstad argued that the court was wrong to strike down the state law banning same-sex marriage and advocated a constitutional amendment to re-institute the ban. His Democratic opponent, Gov. Chet Culver, disagreed on the idea of putting the court decision to a vote.
Culver lost his reelection bid, though not solely because of his position on same-sex marriage. Still, it didn’t help him, and that’s the risk Obama takes there. Obama and Iowa go way back — he’s president today because he dealt Hillary Clinton a third-place finish there in the 2008 caucuses — but it’s a state where just 1 percentage point divided the presidential nominees in 2000 and 2004.
Missouri
There are many Democrats who already concede Missouri is a lost cause for Obama in 2012, even though he only lost to John McCain there by a razor-close margin in 2008.
Wednesday’s announcement only makes the situation worse. In a state where there’s no room for error, the president has taken a position that places him at odds with 71 percent of the state — at least that’s the percentage that voted to ban gay marriage when it was on the ballot in 2004.
There’s a very good chance that number has eroded since then. But not enough for it to be an asset, in a state where Obama’s strength in St. Louis, Kansas City and some surrounding suburbs is counterbalanced by the parts of the state that sit squarely in the Bible Belt.
Ohio
It’s often said that the 2004 gay marriage initiative that passed in Ohio played a key role in lifting George W. Bush to victory over John Kerry. Whether that’s true or not — Bush strategist Matthew Dowd argued Wednesday that it’s not — it’s an issue that resonates outside of Democratic vote centers like Columbus and Cleveland.
In 2004, here’s how state GOP Chairman Robert Bennett framed it to The New York Times. “I’d be naive if I didn’t say it helped,” he said. “And it helped most in what we refer to as the Bible Belt area of southeastern and southwestern Ohio, where we had the largest percentage increase in support for the president.”
Recent polls continue to show that a majority in Ohio oppose gay marriage, compared with only about one-third of voters who support it. And, as POLITICO reported Wednesday, when Vice President Joe Biden privately argued for the president to refrain from expressing his support, he flagged two states where there could be a backlash — his native Pennsylvania and Ohio.
CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story misidentified former Iowa Gov. Chet Culver.
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Funny how during the time the demos controlled all 3 branches of govt they did nothing on this whatsoever.
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Funny how during the time the demos controlled all 3 branches of govt they did nothing on this whatsoever.
i heard rush complain about this obama speech for 14 minutes at noon today.
then went on a 2 minute rant about how gullible the media is, for talking about this distratction non-story.
it's getting predicable lol.
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Obama raising Hollywood cash on heels of gay marriage endorsement
Fox News ^ | 5/10/2012 | Fox News
President Obama and his aides claim they're just not sure how his endorsement of same-sex marriage will play politically.
But his campaign is pushing awfully hard to make sure it plays well.
The campaign, within hours of Obama's interview in which he declared for the first time his support for gay marriage, blasted out a fundraising email to supporters. At dawn on Thursday, the campaign released a web video highlighting the president's new-found stance and lambasting likely GOP opponent Mitt Romney's opposition to gay marriage.
Now the president is preparing to head to a sold-out fundraiser Thursday evening at George Clooney's home in Los Angeles -- where he is sure to be embraced by well-heeled celebrity donors.
Hollywood is home to some of the most high-profile backers of gay marriage and the 150 donors who are paying $40,000 to attend Clooney's dinner Thursday night will no doubt feel newly invigorated by Obama's watershed announcement the day before.
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CT that Biden said it on purpose to create this.
Nobody is talkkng about that adjustment to the workplace participant numbers shadiness to move down the UE rate. Rush and msn alike are talking about this nonsense.
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CT that Biden said it on purpose to create this.
Nobody is talkkng about that adjustment to the workplace participant numbers shadiness to move down the UE rate. Rush and msn alike are talking about this nonsense.
Obama is pissing all over blacks again in favor of wealthy white gay leftists. Typical and sad that people keep falling for this disgusting con man.
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Oh for fucks sake!
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CT that Biden said it on purpose to create this.
Nobody is talkkng about that adjustment to the workplace participant numbers shadiness to move down the UE rate. Rush and msn alike are talking about this nonsense.
Rush has been talking about that for WEEKS, now. (edit - he just brought it up, yet again, just a minute ago).
Obama can't avoid his lousy record, no matter how much he tries.
Rush is talking about this issue today, to make that point, that Obama wants to talk about ANYTHING but the economy. Obama isn't fooling anyone; he's pandering for rich gay donors and he knows it.
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Obama: Biden ‘Got Out a Little Over His Skis’ on Same-Sex Marriage
National Journal ^ | 5/10/12 | Lara Seligman
President Obama said that he had already decided to endorse gay marriage at some point ahead of the presidential election when Vice President Joe Biden jumped the gun with his own announcement on Sunday, according to an interview with ABC. “He probably got out a little over his skis, but out of generosity of spirit,” Obama told ABC’s Robin Roberts in an interview that aired Thursday on Good Morning America. “Would I have preferred to have done this in my own way on my own terms without, I think, there being a lot of notice to everybody? Of course. But all’s
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/gay-marriage-reversal-means-cash-for-obama
Like I said - it's all about money for Obama.
Do you know politicians who run their campaigns without money/donations? How much money have the Koch brothers contributed to Romney's campaign?
If the Koch brothers didn't exist, the left would have to invent them. They're the plutocrats from central casting – oil-and-gas billionaires ready to buy any congressman, fund any lie, fight any law, bust any union, despoil any landscape, or shirk any (tax) burden to push their free-market religion and pump up their profits.
But no need to invent – Charles and David Koch are the real deal. Over the past 30-some years, they've poured more than 100 million dollars into a sprawling network of foundations, think tanks, front groups, advocacy organizations, lobbyists and GOP lawmakers, all to the glory of their hard-core libertarian agenda. They don't oppose big government so much as government – taxes, environmental protections, safety-net programs, public education: the whole bit. (By all accounts, the Kochs are true believers; they really buy that road-to-serfdom stuff about the the holiness of free markets. Still, you can't help but notice how neatly their philosophy lines up with their business interests.) They like to think of elected politicians as merely "actors playing out a script," and themselves as supplying "the themes and words for the scripts." Imagine Karl Rove’s strategic cunning, crossed with Ron Paul’s screw-the-poor ideology, and hooked up to Warren Buffett's checking account, and you’re halfway there.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/the-koch-brothers-exposed-20120420#ixzz1uUobM2W1
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Do you know politicians who run their campaigns without money/donations? How much money have the Koch brothers contributed to Romney's campaign?
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/the-koch-brothers-exposed-20120420#ixzz1uUobM2W1
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Why didnt you add Bush, Palin, and Fox TV as well in that?
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Why didnt you add Bush, Palin, and Fox TV as well in that?
I decided to leave that for you to say.
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Rush has been talking about that for WEEKS, now. (edit - he just brought it up, yet again, just a minute ago).
Obama can't avoid his lousy record, no matter how much he tries.
Rush is talking about this issue today, to make that point, that Obama wants to talk about ANYTHING but the economy. Obama isn't fooling anyone; he's pandering for rich gay donors and he knows it.
My point is that Rush falls into the same trap he warns others to avoid.
It's like from 12 to 1215 every day, he will rant about the latest obama gaffe or egyptian post-death sex law *yes, really*, and THEN he'll warn we must not fall into the trap of discussing distractions. Which is it? I guess he has to keep his ratings up, and the mouth breathing dropouts just looooove making anti-gay slurs on their lunch breaks while slopping down some dollar menu mcdonalds with their buddies... but wow.
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WH won't push gay marriage into party platform
The Washington Examiner ^ | May 10, 2012 | Joel Gehrke
President Obama declared his personal support for same-sex marriage yesterday, but the White House chose not to push for the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act today.
"Well, party platform issues are for the party to decide," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said when asked if Obama would call for the repeal of DOMA and endorsement of pro-gay marriage language in the party platform. "That process is underway, and I refer you to the DNC on the question about the platform."
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lol!!!!! S U C K E R S !!!!!!
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Obama's Same-Sex Marriage Announcement Timed For Tinseltown (George Clooneys' party is tonight!)
breitbart.com ^ | 5/10/12 | Ben Shapiro
Posted on May 10, 2012 10:48:35 PM EDT by Justaham
President Obama’s seemingly-sudden decision to endorse same-sex marriage may have been far more orchestrated than previously believed. CNN reported today that President Obama was supposedly planning to announce his support for gay marriage next week on ABC’s The View before comments by Joe Biden caused him to accelerate his timetable.
But there is another theory in the works.
Biden’s comments on Sunday were clearly orchestrated; the notion that they were unplanned neglects the tape of the interview, which shows David Gregory consulting his notes as he asked a completely out-of-the-blue question on same-sex marriage. The very next day, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan endorsed same-sex marriage. The following day, Obama himself did so. That’s not an accident. That’s a roll-out.
So why the timing?
Today is President Obama’s big Hollywood swing.
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My point is that Rush falls into the same trap he warns others to avoid.
It's like from 12 to 1215 every day, he will rant about the latest obama gaffe or egyptian post-death sex law *yes, really*, and THEN he'll warn we must not fall into the trap of discussing distractions. Which is it? I guess he has to keep his ratings up, and the mouth breathing dropouts just looooove making anti-gay slurs on their lunch breaks while slopping down some dollar menu mcdonalds with their buddies... but wow.
And my point is that Rush has been talking about the bad economic numbers for weeks, long before this issue came up, while this issue arrived, and he'll keep doing it long after this fizzles.
Of course, he's not going to avoid it entirely. In fact, he makes the point that the economic numbers are EXACTLY why his fund raising is down. And, Rush stated that nearly 20% of Obama's bundlers are gay and it was pressure for them that got him to do it (after they got to Biden).
It all ties together, along with the comedic way Rush shot down the left's screwball take that Obama's being brave and bold by taking a principled stand for gay "marriage". We all know he's not and we know why.
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Obama to return to Los Angeles in June for star-studded fundraisers (LGBT gala)
The Hill ^ | 5/11/12 | Jonathan Easley, Amie Parnes
Posted on May 13, 2012 5:52:32 AM EDT by Libloather
Obama to return to Los Angeles in June for star-studded fundraisers
By Jonathan Easley and Amie Parnes - 05/11/12 10:38 AM ET
President Obama's decision to support gay marriage this week is paying off in a big way with the LGBT community in Hollywood.
Obama is expected to attend an LGBT gala in Los Angeles on June 6, where ticket prices range from $1,250 to $25,000 apiece. As part of the same trip, Obama is also expected to attend a fundraiser hosted by Ryan Murphy, the co-creator of the show "Glee," and his fiance David Miller.
Like the fundraising dinner hosted by actor George Clooney on Thursday night in Los Angeles, which raked in $15 million, the dinner is expected to bring in millions of dollars for Obama's reelection campaign.
Obama's endorsement of same-sex marriage on Wednesday has prompted a slew of big-dollar donations from the gay community.
“Obviously yesterday we made some news," Obama told attendees at Clooney's home on Thursday night. “It was a logical extension of what America is supposed to be. It grew directly out of this difference in visions: Are we a country that includes everybody and gives everybody a shot and treats everybody fairly, and is that going to make us stronger? Are we welcoming to immigrants? Are we welcoming to people who aren’t like us? Does that make us stronger? I believe it does.”
According to The Hollywood Reporter, the LGBT gala is now seeking a larger venue to meet skyrocketing demand for the event, which could include a performance from singer Pink and reel in a haul of up to $10 million.
The Clooney fundraiser on Thursday night also had big star presence, including Tobey Maguire, Stacy Keibler, Diane Von Furstenberg, Jack Black, Robert Downey Jr., Salma Hayek, Barbra Streisand, James Brolin and Billy Crystal.
Some on the right have knocked Obama as a “celebrity president,” and one ad from the American Crossroads super-PAC called “Cool” wove together clips of the president with various entertainers before asking if voters were better off than they were four years ago.
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Obama to return to Los Angeles in June for star-studded fundraisers (LGBT gala)
The Hill ^ | 5/11/12 | Jonathan Easley, Amie Parnes
Posted on May 13, 2012 5:52:32 AM EDT by Libloather
Obama to return to Los Angeles in June for star-studded fundraisers
By Jonathan Easley and Amie Parnes - 05/11/12 10:38 AM ET
President Obama's decision to support gay marriage this week is paying off in a big way with the LGBT community in Hollywood.
Obama is expected to attend an LGBT gala in Los Angeles on June 6, where ticket prices range from $1,250 to $25,000 apiece. As part of the same trip, Obama is also expected to attend a fundraiser hosted by Ryan Murphy, the co-creator of the show "Glee," and his fiance David Miller.
Like the fundraising dinner hosted by actor George Clooney on Thursday night in Los Angeles, which raked in $15 million, the dinner is expected to bring in millions of dollars for Obama's reelection campaign.
Obama's endorsement of same-sex marriage on Wednesday has prompted a slew of big-dollar donations from the gay community.
“Obviously yesterday we made some news," Obama told attendees at Clooney's home on Thursday night. “It was a logical extension of what America is supposed to be. It grew directly out of this difference in visions: Are we a country that includes everybody and gives everybody a shot and treats everybody fairly, and is that going to make us stronger? Are we welcoming to immigrants? Are we welcoming to people who aren’t like us? Does that make us stronger? I believe it does.”
According to The Hollywood Reporter, the LGBT gala is now seeking a larger venue to meet skyrocketing demand for the event, which could include a performance from singer Pink and reel in a haul of up to $10 million.
The Clooney fundraiser on Thursday night also had big star presence, including Tobey Maguire, Stacy Keibler, Diane Von Furstenberg, Jack Black, Robert Downey Jr., Salma Hayek, Barbra Streisand, James Brolin and Billy Crystal.
Some on the right have knocked Obama as a “celebrity president,” and one ad from the American Crossroads super-PAC called “Cool” wove together clips of the president with various entertainers before asking if voters were better off than they were four years ago.
When gays come a-callin', Barack goes a-runnin'.
When black people beg the president to visit, he can't be bothered.
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When gays come a-callin', Barack goes a-runnin'.
When black people beg the president to visit, he can't be bothered.
Obama has never so much as lifted a finger for black people.
Shame on blacks for still supporting this con man.
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So this was all about the Benjamins. Not surprised.
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So this was all about the Benjamins. Not surprised.
That, and he's losing to Romney in the polls (Rasumssen).
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economy sucks, gas prices suck, and most repubs can't stop talking about how obama officially has the GOP position of 'let the states decide' but personally feels differently.
Yes, he's stupid like a fox. I look to fox for the economy and find 'Obama's Gay Marriage View To Give Boost to Romney?'.
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economy sucks, gas prices suck, and most repubs can't stop talking about how obama officially has the GOP position of 'let the states decide' but personally feels differently.
Yes, he's stupid like a fox. I look to fox for the economy and find 'Obama's Gay Marriage View To Give Boost to Romney?'.
They've been sucking for YEARS under Obama. That's why he's "evolved" to supporting gay "marriage". This is about firing up his base.
Haven't you learned by now? No matter how many sideshows Obama and his minions in the media gin up, ultimately it comes back to JOBS and the economy. And, Obama's pitiful record will be front and center.
All this does is basically put a sliver of the black vote in the "red" and hand some swing states to Romney.
Economy is No. 1 election issue for Florida voters
— Forget gay marriage. Put aside the war in Afghanistan. Ignore illegal immigration. All are dwarfed by the big gorilla of 2012 — the economy.
Election 2012 is all about the economy — especially jobs — the one issue with the power to determine if President Barack Obama or Republican Mitt Romney wins Florida's critical electoral votes and, perhaps, the presidency.
"That's the No. 1 priority," said Jansew Sang, of Hollywood.
Laid off in 2009 from her job as Latin America sales manager for a manufacturer of networking devices, she's still relatively fortunate, being able to work as a translator and banking consultant. "I have the advantage of being able to keep myself afloat in this economy," she said.
Sang is an independent — the kind of voter coveted by every candidate because independents decide close elections. She voted for Obama in 2008, but hasn't decided if she'll vote for him or Romney this year.
She was among 646 people seeking work last week at a career fair in Miramar along with city residents Jenni Ressler and Jim Richardson. Like Sang, they're swing voters and haven't decided which candidate will get their votes this year.
Richardson, out of work since August 2011, said jobs are the issue in 2012. And Ressler, who's been looking for two months, said the economy "would play a big role, obviously."
Jobs are a salient issue for many more people than the 9 percent of Floridians who were unemployed in March — when the jobless rate was again higher than the national average and the percentage of people with jobs was 43rd in the country. New state unemployment numbers, for April, are due out Friday.
Dave Welch, who lives west of Boca Raton, said he feels the employment squeeze — even though he still has his job as a copier mechanic.
"I know several people who have lost their jobs: good, hard-working people who have lost their jobs because the economy is in the tank," he said. "We're not selling the products that we have in the past, therefore we don't need the people that we've had. It's been a cascading effect."
He blames Obama and the Democrats, and decided long ago to vote for Romney, even though the Republican candidate isn't as conservative as he'd like.
Welch's concerns about jobs are far from unique. A Suffolk University/WSVN-Ch. 7 poll conducted last week found 81 percent of Florida voters said the state's job outlook is poor or fair. Just 13 percent termed it good or excellent. More than 80 percent believe the state is still mired in a recession.
And 52 percent of the 600 Florida voters surveyed rated the economy as the most important issue facing the country. None of the other nine issues came anywhere close, a finding Suffolk polling director David Paleologos termed "amazing."
Troy Samuels, a Miramar city commissioner, Republican Party committeeman and co-chairman of Romney's campaign in Broward County, said there isn't a single event he's attended in the past three years when at least one person hasn't asked him for job leads.
He said even plenty of people with a job are concerned about what the near future might bring. "If there's a bump in the economy … will my company all of a sudden lay off 100 people, and I'm one of those 100?" he said. "Those are still serious concerns in the minds of people no matter what party they're from, and they think about it every single day."
And those kind of worries have a big impact on elections if "the unemployment rate gets reported and people sort of look around and say things don't look so good," said Kevin Wagner, a political scientist at Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton. And that's bad for incumbents.
Conflicting trends mark the all-important unemployment picture, said Xu Cheng, senior economist atMoody'sAnalytics, a leading independent economic forecasting firm.
From 2010 to today, the Florida unemployment rate has come down more than 2 percentage points, "In normal times, this would be great," the economist said. "In normal times, if we put this variable in the [election forecasting] model, Obama would win Florida for sure."
But there's another factor in play: A state unemployment rate higher than 8 percent produces the "grumpy voter effect," Cheng said. "Despite Florida's relatively strong recovery in the last two years, given that Florida unemployment figures will still be very high — and we believe at the time of the election it will still be about 9 percent — we believe this grumpy voter effect will kick in."
That means Floridians are much less likely than normal to give the president any credit for the decline in the unemployment rate, he said.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/elections/fl-economy-jobs-election-20120512,0,3873665.story
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Obama has never so much as lifted a finger for black people.
Shame on blacks for still supporting this con man.
I want to see which black ministers call Obama out on this mess vs. which ones suck up or clam up (Sharpton and Jackson don't count; that's a given).
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I want to see which black ministers call Obama out on this mess vs. which ones suck up or clam up (Sharpton and Jackson don't count; that's a given).
It's such a shame since black people, like everyone, are getting slammed to death in this economy as a result of these crazy policies and we never get to discussing that since all this bs gets in the way.
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thread title says it all. i hope it sinks his shit.
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It's such a shame since black people, like everyone, are getting slammed to death in this economy as a result of these crazy policies and we never get to discussing that since all this bs gets in the way.
Oh, we've been discussing it (maybe not as it relates so much to black people). That's why we know that the left, who just a year ago, lectured everyone that social issues didn't matter, now want to use this particular social issue to deflect from Obama's pathetic record.
They're playing right into Romney's hands. If he can harness that and hone his message, especially in the swing states, he'll beat Obama like a red-headed stepchild.
Black people in conservative states have passed amendments, to the tune of 65-70%; and Obama does THIS?
Here's the funny part. Gay "marriage" advocates outspent traditional marriage supporters over 2 to 1 in North Carolina and about 3 to 1 in Florida. Yet, their respective amendments won going away....well, not quite in Florida, as you need a 60% supermajority to pass one (FL's Amendment 2 got the nod, 62-38).
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I'm so utterly pissed off over this crap. Birth control and Gay Marriage? Seriously?
Oh he'll no!!!
Say what you want about Bush, but I was doing. Much better under GWB than the last three years.
BTW - broker for my office building said I have to drop price by 30k off the listing at least to get any interest. Yeah!!!!
hope and change!!!
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I'm so utterly pissed off over this crap. Birth control and Gay Marriage? Seriously?
Oh he'll no!!!
Say what you want about Bush, but I was doing. Much better under GWB than the last three years.
BTW - broker for my office building said I have to drop price by 30k off the listing at least to get any interest. Yeah!!!!
hope and change!!!
I look at it this way. We conservatives can beat up Obama, regardless of the playing field.
If he wants to focus on economic issues, beat him over the head with his lousy record.
If he wants to play the social issue game, that's fine by me. We have the horses to trample him on that one.
The one issue on which Romney struggled was uniting the social conservatives and the moderate/economic GOP crew. Thanks to Mr. Flip-and-Flop, Romney's job is a lot easier.
There are no social conservatives who don't also want a balanced budget, low gas prices, more jobs, strong foreign policy, enforced borders, etc.
I've said from the start, that Bachmann was dead on the money: Social issues and economic issues go hand in hand.
Three rules for staying out of poverty
Thanks to the Great Recession, poverty in America has increased in recent years.
So what are the best ways to avoid falling into poverty?
The Brookings Institution has spent a great deal of effort studying this issue.
And presidential candidate Rick Santorum has been quoting their findings on the campaign trail.
Brookings whittled down a lot of analysis into three simple rules. You can avoid poverty by:
1. Graduating from high school.
2. Waiting to get married until after 21 and do not have children till after being married.
3. Having a full-time job.
If you do all those three things, your chance of falling into poverty is just 2 percent. Meanwhile, you’ll have a 74 percent chance of being in the middle class.
Applies to everyone
These rules apply to all races and ethnic groups. Breaking these rules is becoming more commonplace, unfortunately, for all racial groups.
By contrast, young adults who violated all three norms — dropped out, got married before 21 and had children out of wedlock and didn’t have a full-time job — had a 76 percent chance of winding up in poverty and a 7 percent chance of winding up in the middle class.
Ron Haskins, co-author of the Brookings study, looked at census information.
He called the results “astounding,” noting that it’s time to emphasize the role that personal decisions have on staying out of the poorhouse.
As he said on the Brookings website: “The figures on investing and spending demonstrate that government is already doing a lot. A typical child from a poor family enjoys income and housing support for their family, health care, preschool education, public school education, college loans or scholarships, and employment and training programs, to name a few of the prominent government programs.”
It's personal
But personal decisions trump anything the government can do.
As Haskins notes, a typical child from a poor family already receives income and housing support, health care, preschool education, college aid and employment training programs.
“I raise this study because as the nation’s economy appears to be gaining steam,” Haskins said, “the Occupy movements and other domestic problems continue to stimulate lots of talk about the lack of opportunity in America, and federal and state social programs continue (or not) their slow progress toward effectiveness, it seems timely to emphasize the role of personal responsibility in the fight to promote opportunity.
“But unless adolescents and young adults make wise decisions about their schooling, about marriage before childbearing and about work, our Brookings study strongly suggests that all this programmatic spending will do little to boost their chances of moving into the middle class.”
The so-called middle class values of hard work, perseverance and delaying gratification are the cornerstones of the Harlem Children’s Zone program.
Some families have these values as if they are in the water; others need to be taught them.
But they are the essence of the American ideals that hard work will pay off.
The pursuit of happiness is the only promise.
“Federal and state policymakers, program operators and teachers, and parents need to constantly remind themselves and their children that personal responsibility is the key to success and insist that children and adolescents demonstrate more of it,” Haskins wrote.
“Arguing that bad decisions are understandable when made by a child from a poor, single-parent family living in a bad neighborhood and attending a lousy school is a flimsy excuse that abets the problem.
“Without a relentless emphasis on personal responsibility, the billions of dollars we spend on government programs will continue to produce mediocre results, and opportunity in America will continue to stagnate.”
Government has a role in giving people a hand up, but in the final analysis, it’s the choices made by individuals that seal their fate.
Personal responsibility is unleashed in a free society. It’s only the right to way to produce wealth, it’s the only practical way to do it.
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/editorials/2012-01-27/story/three-rules-staying-out-poverty
It's a bit like that church saying, "God gave Adam a job, before He gave him a wife".....and He gave him a wife, before He gave him kids.
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That, and he's losing to Romney in the polls (Rasumssen).
He's in a world of hurt. Romney hasn't even started campaigning against him yet.
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the focus on these nonsense issues is getting me more upset than ever.
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the focus on these nonsense issues is getting me more upset than ever.
outed big time.
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Ricky Martin Hosts Reception for President Obama in NYC Today, 5/14
Broadwayworld.com ^ | 5/14/12
Ricky Martin, currently starring in the new revival of EVITA, will host a fundraising event today, May 14th to support the re-election of President Barack Obama.
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subscribing to read the funny posts.
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Obama To Deliver Barnard Commencement Address (1st gay president brings gay week to NYC)
NY 1 News ^ | 5/13/12 | NY1 News
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2012 5:32:21 PM by jimbo123
After the presidential campaign has been focusing on female reproductive rights and other women's issues, President Barack Obama is coming to the city Monday to deliver the commencement address at all-female Barnard College and attend two high-profile fundraisers.
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After the commencement, Obama is heading to the Rubin Museum of Art in Chelsea for a $5,000-a-ticket fundraiser co-hosted by the LGBT Leadership Council and openly gay singer Ricky Martin.
The president will also attend a private, $35,800-a-plate fundraising dinner featuring the cooking of Manhattan chef Vikas Khanna before heading back to the White House.
While in the city, Obama will tape an interview with the TV show "The View." It will be his fourth appearance on the show, and his second as president.
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Obama's Same-Sex Marriage Announcement Timed For Tinseltown (George Clooneys' party is tonight!)
I said that shit immediately. It was obvious to the wise CTer.
He earned 15 million at one party. The getbiggers who said it woudln't work, well, it worked.
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This is pretty shameless, given that he was supposedly opposed to homosexual marriage as late as last week: "While the president has done well for himself at the fundraisers since his announcement, the campaign is also selling LGBT merchandise on its official website. The novelty items include shirts, posters, stickers and even a $10 "Obama Pride" can holder."
Timing of gay marriage announcement paying dividends for Obama
Published May 15, 2012
FoxNews.com
Though President Obama supposedly was not planning to endorse gay marriage until closer to the Democratic convention, the decision to make the call last week has paid dividends -- helping him raise at least $21 million for his campaign coffers in a matter of days.
Based on ticket information provided by the campaign and other estimates, the five fundraisers Obama has attended since his endorsement last Wednesday have brought in at least that much. The haul was aided in large part by the $15 million fundraiser at the home of actor George Clooney.
The total continues to underscore how the Obama campaign has quickly managed to turn a potential political liability into a political tool, at least in the short term -- either to paint GOP candidate Mitt Romney as intolerant, divert attention from the economy or simply raise money.
If the last point was the goal, it's a strategy that's paying off. And based on a New York Times/CBS News poll, the controversial position might not even cost him much at the polls, considering the survey shows gay marriage is a top issue for just 7 percent of voters.
The president's fundraiser Monday evening with openly gay singer Ricky Martin was just the latest venue where Obama was able to tout his administration's efforts to fight for gay rights and raise money on the side. By arranging for an interview last Wednesday to announce his position shift, the president was able to pivot immediately to a string of appearances and fundraisers -- including two on Monday -- where his decision, to put it mildly, was welcomed.
For those dizzy from the past week of developments, the following is a timeline of what preceded and followed Obama's pivot.
Oct. 3, 2011: In Obama's most recent public comments on gay marriage before his endorsement, the president tells ABC News that "at minimum" gay couples should have strong civil unions. He says he doesn't plan to "make news right now" -- asked whether he'd change his mind on gay marriage before the election, Obama says: "I'm still working on it."
May 6, 2012: In an interview aired on NBC's "Meet the Press," Vice President Biden says he's "absolutely comfortable" with gay marriage rights.
May 7: Education Secretary Arne Duncan says in a TV interview that he thinks gay couples should be allowed to legally marry.
May 7: White House Press Secretary Jay Carney says he has "no update" on Obama's personal views, but claims Biden was making "the same point" Obama had made previously on the rights of gay couples. Duncan, he says, was expressing a "personal opinion."
May 9: Obama calls an interview with ABC News, and announces that in his personal view, "same-sex couples should be able to get married."
May 10: The Obama campaign releases a web video that focuses on the gay-marriage announcement, and calls Romney "backwards on equality."
May 10: Obama travels to Seattle for a pair of campaign fundraisers. From there, he heads to Los Angeles for another fundraiser at George Clooney's house. The president sets a single-day fundraising record, pulling in nearly $15 million.
May 14: Obama delivers the commencement address at Barnard College, touching on the gay-marriage debate. He then tapes an interview with "The View," where he again discusses his gay-marriage announcement. From there, he heads to two fundraisers in New York, one hosted by the LGBT Leadership Council, Ricky Martin and The Futuro Fund. At the event, Obama declares the Defense of Marriage Act should be repealed.
While the president has done well for himself at the fundraisers since his announcement, the campaign is also selling LGBT merchandise on its official website. The novelty items include shirts, posters, stickers and even a $10 "Obama Pride" can holder.
Politically, pundits continue to speculate on whether Obama's announcement helps or hurts him. Obama's advisers have suggested they were taking a political risk with the announcement. After all, several battleground states are not exactly receptive to the president's view, considering they have statutory and/or constitutional bans on gay marriage -- including in North Carolina, the latest to join that list.
But the New York Times/CBS News poll indicated the issue might not resonate all that much in trying economic times. While it showed gay marriage as the top issue for just 7 percent of voters, an overwhelming majority picked the economy as the No. 1 issue in the upcoming election.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said last Thursday that, for the administration, the economy remains the top matter of concern.
"The president's focus ... has been and will continue to be on jobs and the economy," Carney said. "That's been the -- creating greater security for a middle class in this country that has been under stress for a long time, even predating the Great Recession, has been No. 1 priority. It was his No. 1 priority when he ran for office, for this office, and it has been his priority since he took the oath of office."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/15/timing-gay-marriage-announcement-paying-dividends-for-obama/
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"Though President Obama supposedly was not planning to endorse gay marriage until closer to the Democratic convention, the decision to make the call last week has paid dividends -- helping him raise at least $21 million for his campaign coffers in a matter of days. "
Exactly. It was a calculated ploy and repubs stepped right into it. Rush and Beck spent their week working as Obama's mouthpieces!
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Lol. Gays, like other typical racial solidarity voters are gullible idiots prone to buying this crap.
I still have yet to see anyone wearing an Obama "Health Care is still aBig FNG deal" shirt.
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"Though President Obama supposedly was not planning to endorse gay marriage until closer to the Democratic convention, the decision to make the call last week has paid dividends -- helping him raise at least $21 million for his campaign coffers in a matter of days. "
Exactly. It was a calculated ploy and repubs stepped right into it. Rush and Beck spent their week working as Obama's mouthpieces!
WRONG!! The Repubs (Romney, in particular) are talking about the economy. Rush and Glenn are basically skewering the president, with his own words and telling people exactly WHY Obama is bending over for the gay community.
And, they're laughing at him and the mainstream media, by citing the facts that clearly show this mess ain't working. In the end, they turn it right back to the economy. No amount of gay-pandering will save Obama from his record.
He raised $21 million...BIG DEAL!! He's still WAY behind, in terms of fund-raising. The gays basically sat on their checkbooks, until Obama put out.
Obama’s high-dollar donations lagging
President Obama is struggling to draw in big-dollar donations, with half as many people writing large checks to his campaign than at this point four years ago.
Obama is outpacing his Republican rivals in fundraising overall, and his advisers have concentrated on amassing small-dollar backers, part of a strategy to get more people invested in the reelection effort. At the end of January, 1.4 million people had donated to the Obama campaign, responding to appeals for contributions as small as $2.
But Obama lags behind Republican front-runner Mitt Romney in finding donors willing to give $2,000 or more — a surprising development for a sitting president, and one that could signal more worrisome financial problems heading into the general election. At this point in the last election cycle, Obama had received such large donations from more than 23,000 supporters, more than double the 11,000 who have given him that much this time. President George W. Bush had more than four times that number of big donations at this point in his reelection.
Interestingly, ten years ago, it was the Republicans who were outpacing the Democrats in small donations, and the Democrats were cleaning up in large, soft-money contributions. Things change.
But the fact that “President George W. Bush had more than four times that number of big donations at this point in his reelection” is huge. Where the big-money power-brokers go isn’t everything, but it is an indication of something. Obama has not done well in his first term. He has helped his cronies. He happened to be president when our soldiers got Bin Laden. But what has he done that average Americans can point to and say, “look at that.”
http://www.westernfreepress.com/2012/03/19/obama-fundraising-lags-2008-large-donations-14-of-bushs-2004-haul/
And, despite all this, Romney (who technically has yet to wrap up the GOP nomination) is either tied or beating him.
As of the printing of that article I posted, Obama has less than A QUARTER of the big-money donors that Bush had in 2004. NO WONDER his political rectum is open for business, for the gay contingent.
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For Obama, Gay Is Green
American Thinker ^ | May 15, 2012 | J. Robert Smith
Posted on May 16, 2012 3:30:19 AM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Joseph Curl's analysis in Sunday's Washington Times on Barack Obama's gay marriage flip-flop nicely sums up the president's motive. Actually, the headline sums it up: "Team Obama panics, and it's only May."
That's right. President Barack Obama -- that Everest of integrity -- and his paid hacks are in full panic mode. As Curl observes, it's mid-May, and the president is focusing on shoring up what should be a base constituency -- gays.
Previously, Mr. Obama was trying to drive wedges between the GOP and women, Hispanics, and young voters to shore up support from these cohorts. A president up for re-election with a solid track record to run on isn't going after his own voters this late in the game. Team Obama is in big trouble.
Mr. Obama is pandering to gays with his marriage switcheroo for two reasons: 1) money; 2) onground support.
Gays aren't a large cohort in the U.S., despite misconceptions and propaganda. For years, it was in wide circulation that gays constituted 10% of the U.S. population. A May 2011 Gallup poll claims that Americans, on the whole, perceive that gays are about 1 in 4 Americans. Not so. Gays are more like 3.5% of the nation's citizenry.
Yet gays have a disproportionate influence in politics. That's because many gays are upwardly mobile and affluent; they have disposable incomes because they tend not to have families. Gays have time to devote to political causes as well. And gay voters are concentrated in larger urban areas (like San Francisco and Atlanta), where their votes can make a difference in local and some state elections.
According to BuzzFeed, an online journal:
Already, gay donors, mostly men, reportedly constitute 1 in 6 of Obama's top fundraisers known as bundlers....
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For Obama, Gay Is Green
American Thinker ^ | May 15, 2012 | J. Robert Smith
Posted on May 16, 2012 3:30:19 AM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Joseph Curl's analysis in Sunday's Washington Times on Barack Obama's gay marriage flip-flop nicely sums up the president's motive. Actually, the headline sums it up: "Team Obama panics, and it's only May."
That's right. President Barack Obama -- that Everest of integrity -- and his paid hacks are in full panic mode. As Curl observes, it's mid-May, and the president is focusing on shoring up what should be a base constituency -- gays.
Previously, Mr. Obama was trying to drive wedges between the GOP and women, Hispanics, and young voters to shore up support from these cohorts. A president up for re-election with a solid track record to run on isn't going after his own voters this late in the game. Team Obama is in big trouble.
Mr. Obama is pandering to gays with his marriage switcheroo for two reasons: 1) money; 2) onground support.
Gays aren't a large cohort in the U.S., despite misconceptions and propaganda. For years, it was in wide circulation that gays constituted 10% of the U.S. population. A May 2011 Gallup poll claims that Americans, on the whole, perceive that gays are about 1 in 4 Americans. Not so. Gays are more like 3.5% of the nation's citizenry.
Yet gays have a disproportionate influence in politics. That's because many gays are upwardly mobile and affluent; they have disposable incomes because they tend not to have families. Gays have time to devote to political causes as well. And gay voters are concentrated in larger urban areas (like San Francisco and Atlanta), where their votes can make a difference in local and some state elections.
According to BuzzFeed, an online journal:
Already, gay donors, mostly men, reportedly constitute 1 in 6 of Obama's top fundraisers known as bundlers....
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Obama's rectum is officially open for business. Yet, he STILL is lagging behind, in terms of fundraising. Rush may have a point. The media may be under-reporting the expectations of the amount of money these galas were supposed to generate, to give the appearance that there's a spike in fundraising due to Obama's "evolution".
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"Rush may have a point"
great humor.
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"Rush may have a point"
great humor.
Rush also said that Obama was desperate for cash and that all this fund raising flap was to give the appearance that he's still raking in the dough.
Well, looky here!! We find that he's raised LESS THAN HALF of what he did, this time in 2008 and less than a QUARTER (among big-money donors) than Bush did.
But, don't let the facts get in the way of your kneepadding.
Why is Obama behind in his fundraising again? Why doesn't Obama have this sown up, especially after capping Bin Laden last year?
Why is he TIED OR LOSING to the survivor of "the worst GOP field in the history of American politics"?
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This is pretty shameless, given that he was supposedly opposed to homosexual marriage as late as last week: "While the president has done well for himself at the fundraisers since his announcement, the campaign is also selling LGBT merchandise on its official website. The novelty items include shirts, posters, stickers and even a $10 "Obama Pride" can holder."
I checked the official Obama campaign website for the items you mention. As far as I could see, the items you mentioned aren't there. Although, every other possible group that supports Obama is represented in some way. Frankly, it seems like there should be something of this nature for sale there. It is odd that there isn't.
https://store.barackobama.com/?limit=9999&p=5 (https://store.barackobama.com/?limit=9999&p=5) Check this out an if you can find LGBT merchandise here, let me know.
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I checked the official Obama campaign website for the items you mention. As far as I could see, the items you mentioned aren't there. Although, every other possible group that supports Obama is represented in some way. Frankly, it seems like there should be something of this nature for sale there. It is odd that there isn't.
https://store.barackobama.com/?limit=9999&p=5 (https://store.barackobama.com/?limit=9999&p=5) Check this out an if you can find LGBT merchandise here, let me know.
Please dont tell me you are going to make a fool of yourself and wear those ridiculous shirts obama put out.
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Please dont tell me you are going to make a fool of yourself and wear those ridiculous shirts obama put out.
Probably not since I almost never wear anything with an exposed label or otherwise advertising something (I make an exception for jeans because they are too hard to find without some identifying label). However, even if I did, what difference would it make to you?
Instead of buying merchandise I will not use, I am content to simply donate money to Obama's campaign and the Democratic party.
Will you be a fool for Romney campaign items?
Romney's campaign website's store has much less merchandise. Apparently, nurses, Latinos, Asians, environmentalist aren't supporting him with a T-shirt.
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Probably not since I almost never wear anything with an exposed label or otherwise advertising something (I make an exception for jeans because they are too hard to find without some identifying label). However, even if I did, what difference would it make to you?
Instead of buying merchandise I will not use, I am content to simply donate money to Obama's campaign and the Democratic party.
Will you be a fool for Romney campaign items?
Romney's campaign website's store has much less merchandise. Apparently, nurses, Latinos, Asians, environmentalist aren't supporting him with a T-shirt.
Hell no!!!!!
are you kidding? Yuck!
I have a few 2nd amend, DTOM, shirts i wear that make it clear where i stand.
I did sign up for voter fraud watch though for romney. I'll be out in force on election day for sure!
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I checked the official Obama campaign website for the items you mention. As far as I could see, the items you mentioned aren't there. Although, every other possible group that supports Obama is represented in some way. Frankly, it seems like there should be something of this nature for sale there. It is odd that there isn't.
https://store.barackobama.com/?limit=9999&p=5 (https://store.barackobama.com/?limit=9999&p=5) Check this out an if you can find LGBT merchandise here, let me know.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/slideshow/obama-campaign-sells-lgbt-swag-16353648
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/slideshow/obama-campaign-sells-lgbt-swag-16353648
Dick Morris reports on O'Reilly that Obama has about $60 million less than he did this time in 2008 ($180 million vs $236 million).
No wonder why he's hocking LGBT paraphernalia. Bend over some more, Barack!!
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/slideshow/obama-campaign-sells-lgbt-swag-16353648
There are links in the Collections section to specialty items on the Obama website store. One of those links is for LBGT merchandise. -Seems appropriate since LGBT folks have the right to vote, same as anyone else. There is also a link to environmentalist, Asian, Latin, Nurses, etc. items.