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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: musclecenter on May 14, 2012, 03:59:33 AM
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monster weight
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They're not biceps
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good size again. the man is back. rebounded quickly.
Phil can't touch that kind of size.
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alpha helix mouthguard?
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good to see the man back in business 8)
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haha, a 50 pound weight shouldnt be that tough to lift
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Epic sideways hat
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Jay has the market cornered on hat douchebaggery. Epic no mouthpiece. Mus not be concerned with keeping cortisol levels down ::) also, i hate how he is trying too damned hard to be gracious and hug heath and hurry up and hold his hand up. He is trying so hard to seem fucking gracious and nice and shit. It is an attempt to maintain upper hand over phil. It is an attempt to show the world that jay is passing on his title, not that heath beat him. He should be really upset that his synthil bicep problem was his last outing. That really tarnishes his career. And he will fucking sell anything. Has no advertising credibilty at all. Alpha craplix wasted its money on jay the fridge gutler.
If that mouthpiece made him into such a great champion, you think he would be wearing it while he trains. :-\
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Jay has the market cornered on hat douchebaggery. Epic no mouthpiece. Mus not be concerned with keeping cortisol levels down ::) also, i hate how he is trying too damned hard to be gracious and hug heath and hurry up and hold his hand up. He is trying so hard to seem fucking gracious and nice and shit. It is an attempt to maintain upper hand over phil. It is an attempt to show the world that jay is passing on his title, not that heath beat him. He should be really upset that his synthil bicep problem was his last outing. That really tarnishes his career. And he will fucking sell anything. Has no advertising credibilty at all. Alpha craplix wasted its money on jay the fridge gutler.
wow, and these bitches say i trash jay.
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haha, a 50 pound weight shouldnt be that tough to lift
Ironically with that type of barbells you get a pump in your biceps not matter how light you train..
If your biceps are already big, nice form and using these barbells are the way to get a full contraction.
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Ironically with that type of barbells you get a pump in your biceps not matter how light you train..
If your biceps are already big, nice form and using these barbells are the way to get a full contraction.
Oh come on, Ive seen 14 year olds in the gym curl 50 pound barbells without grimacing.
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He could be warming up with that weight. It could also be that he had his damaged bicep repaired and that is all he can use during the healing process.
I use to be a weight snob watching what others use but hell doing 5 sets of 12 to 15 reps with very short rests between sets will make the lightest weight seem heavy.
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He could be warming up with that weight. It could also be that he had his damaged bicep repaired and that is all he can use during the healing process.
I use to be a weight snob watching what others use but hell doing 5 sets of 12 to 15 reps with very short rests between sets will make the lightest weight seem heavy.
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More excuses for a juiced up, lazy bodybuilder.
I bet you also agree with half reps to maintain constant tension. ::) ::)
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Oh come on, Ive seen 14 year olds in the gym curl 50 pound barbells without grimacing.
but...do they have huge arms ???
You obviously dont like to listen to the pros.
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but...do they have huge arms ???
You obviously dont like to listen to the pros.
Nope, they do not.
Must be that Jay is maintaining constant tension, and has the perfect mind-muscle connection. Also, proper nutrient timing. I will make sure to tell the kids in the gym his secrets so they can get arms like Jay. Then again, would they really want arms like Jays? lol :-X :-X
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More excuses for a juiced up, lazy bodybuilder.
I bet you also agree with half reps to maintain constant tension. ::) ::)
No, I believe in a full range of motion. I don't do half squats or half leg presses claiming they are full range. I come all the way down when doing shoulder presses or inclines. I'm not making excuses and you're are right there are so many juiced bodybuilders that would look like they never trained if it wasn't for the chemical assist.
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No, I believe in a full range of motion. I don't do half squats or half leg presses claiming they are full range. I come all the way down when doing shoulder presses or inclines. I'm not making excuses and you're are right there are so many juiced bodybuilders that would look like they never trained if it wasn't for the chemical assist.
Look at pics from the 50-70s, you wont see that half rep crap or people grimacing with a 50 pound barbell like you do today.
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The tension on the muscle is the only thing that matters, if you can get the same amount of tension using a lighter weight, you would be stupid for using the heavier weight. Unless of course you consider building your image through strength display a part of your goals.
A lot of good physiques have even been built without extra weight. Meanwhile you see twinks in every gym curling 150 pound barbells and other heroic feets of uselessness as far as hypertrophy is concerned.
Now of course (for people who aren't able to grasp the relativity of this all), some people will have to use some more weight, relatively speaking, to someone else who can generate stronger contractions using less weight.
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Look at pics from the 50-70s, you wont see that half rep crap or people grimacing with a 50 pound barbell like you do today.
I have been lifting weights for nearly 40 years. I have been in many a gym. I have seen what the work ethic is like now for the most part and it's sad. No one squats anymore or if they do it's really shallow. Incline barbell and dumbbell presses are really a short range of motion so they can grab the really big weights that in truth they couldn't handle doing it properly. Deadlifts are done from a cage off of pins because if it was on the floor they couldn't pick it up. The leg press is the biggest disgrace. Load a 1000 plus pounds and keep the back board upright and do little shallow knee bends. What's with all the young men walking on a treadmill? Lazy fucks.
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The tension on the muscle drug injections is are the only thing that matters, if you can get the same amount of tension growth using a lighter weight a lot of drugs, you would be stupid for using the heavier weight. Unless of course you consider building your image through strength display a part of your goals.
A lot of good physiques have even been built without extra weight with a lot of drugs. Meanwhile you see twinks natural bodybuilders in every gym curling 150 pound barbells and other heroic feets of uselessness as far as hypertrophy is concerned actually working out hard and trying to build some muscle, instead of being lazy and just sticking boat loads of drugs into their bodies.
Now of course (for people who aren't able to grasp the relativity of this all), some people will have to use some more weight a lot more drugs to look like Jay, relatively speaking, to someone else who can generate stronger contractions using less weight maybe use a little less drugs, and still look like crap.
I fixed your post. Now it looks like the truth.
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The drugs are a given to such a degree (and have been since so long already) we need never even talk about them anymore.
Let's assume Yates for instance was on the same amounts of the same drugs as Cutler, was he bigger than Cutler because of his heavier lower volume training?
There's plenty of these heavy training vs light training bodybuilders to be made.
The weight on the bar transferring to tension on the muscle is just too simplistic. One guy might be able to create the same amount of bicep tension using 10 lbs, while the guy next to him might need 30 lbs to achieve the same tension. It's all relative!
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The drugs are a given to such a degree (and have been since so long already) we need never even talk about them anymore.
Let's assume Yates for instance was on the same amounts of the same drugs as Cutler, was he bigger than Cutler because of his heavier lower volume training?
There's plenty of these heavy training vs light training bodybuilders to be made.
The weight on the bar transferring to tension on the muscle is just too simplistic does not matter. One guy might be able to create the same amount of bicep tension using huge arms curling a 10 lbs and using a lot of drugs, while the guy next to him might need 30 lbs to achieve the same tension. It's all relative drugs!
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looks like he's having a hard time with the weight. why would you get photoed with such a puny poundage. he should be ashamed to be useing 50 lb dbs much less a barbell.
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Let's turn this thing around:
Do any of you here think that a lighter training Cutler is generating less tension in his biceps than a heavier biceps training Yates? (or any two bodybuilders who differ in weights used)
If a direct measurement of muscular strength generated (which would have to an internal one vs an external one with poundage used) were to be done for each of them, I'm 100% sure they would be a lot closer together than the differing weights on the bar would make you believe.
Hence Cutler doing 50 lbs barbell curls might in practice be exposing the same load on his biceps as 100 lbs barbell curling Yates.
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I opened with it's ALL DRUGS, that is no longer a variable, it is a constant.
You've never had statistics in college?
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Let's turn this thing around:
Do any of you here think that a lighter training Cutler is generating less tension in his biceps than a heavier biceps training Yates? (or any two bodybuilders who differ in weights used)
If a direct measurement of muscular strength generated (which would have to an internal one vs an external one with poundage used) were to be done for each of them, I'm 100% sure they would be a lot closer together than the differing weights on the bar would make you believe.
Hence Cutler doing 50 lbs barbell curls might in practice be exposing the same load on his biceps as 100 lbs barbell curling Yates.
??? ??? ??? ???
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??? ??? ??? ???
I didn't say 50 lbs isn't 50 lbs or whatnot. But in this context, what you do with those 50 lbs is what counts.
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I didn't say 50 lbs isn't 50 lbs or whatnot. But in this context, what you do with those 50 lbs is what counts.
i know what you mean 50 lbs can be made to feel heavier by slowing down the motion and feeling the movement more. the mind muscle connection which is so hard to truly achieve.
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those feet look very hittable (no homo)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=426012.0;attach=469681;image)
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Among other things yes. But give Cutler a 100 lbs barbell instead of that 50 lbs barbell, he would be 'lifting more weight' but wouldn't necessarily be training his biceps any harder.
I agree with Scott Abel that a lot of bodybuilders, even though they get stronger over time, use less training weight over time, simply because they've mastered the contracting of muscles better.
(of course the drug intake will likely also grow over time!)
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I opened with it's ALL DRUGS and genetics, that is no longer a variable, it is a constant. Nothing else matters.
You've never had statistics in college?
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:) :)
Simply refuses to give up :D
Without drugs, you are going nowhere, we all know that by now. It is uncontestedly the single most important thing.
But I know for certain more people get lesser results because of training too heavy (heavy as in weight on bar) vs getting lesser results because of training too light. When in doubt, train too light.
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Simply refuses to give up :D
Without drugs, you are going nowhere, we all know that by now. It is uncontestedly the single most important thing.
But I know for certain more people get lesser results because of training too heavy light and with bad form (heavy as in weight on bar) vs getting lesser results because of training too light people who train light but get awesome results because of superior genetics and drugs. When in doubt, train too light heavy for maximal gains, and train lighter if you can get away with it with superior genetics and a lot of drugs.
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The people here who've trained for decades will attest that they've gotten better results by training a bit too light, than they had while training a bit too heavy, regardless of drugs which are omnipresent.
Sieg Selbstheil!
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Jay is in his final stage of his FULL DOUCHE transformation. He will be at 100% douche by May 23rd, 8:09 PM.
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The people here who've trained for decades will attest that they've gotten better results by training a bit too light, than they had while training a bit too heavy, regardless of drugs which are omnipresent.
Sieg Selbstheil!
Well, no shit, training a little lighter and using good form will bring the best progress. There is still a difference between going a bit lighter and using good form and still busting your ass, as opposed to grimacing about lifting a 50 pound dumbbell. Sorry, unless Jay was on his 600th rep with that 50 pound barbell, he shouldnt be grimacing. As I said, I have seen teenagers use that same barbell, do 12 reps, and not grimace one bit. Look at that vein in Jays neck. He must be straining pretty hard :-\
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first off.. there are very few exercises that provide a muscle with a "full range of motion".. must refer to a full range of motion when in truth they are doing a "full range of movement".. if using the bench press as a example the triceps are the weak link for most.. the in essence the triceps give out well before the pecs.. so why utilize the last portion of the movement that fatigues the triceps and leaves the pecs wanting.. would it not be better to stay in the range of movement that puts the most stress on the pecs?
dont confuse the two.. where ever the most tension on the pecs is that is where you should stay.. the full range of motion is only needed in the bench press where it is being judged for powerlifting purposes.. for the purpose of building pecs it is not needed and should not be adhered too.. unless ya want great triceps.. ;)
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haha sf1900 laying down the hard truth!
Excellent work!
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Sorry, but saying that curling a 50 pound dumbbell will get you that big because of constant tension is utter crap :-\
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I cant stand that dude. When heathh won his first olympia. He's got this smiling long jawed asshole hugging the fuck out of him and pointing to him and shit. He should have shook heaths hand and walked off. Hugging in posing trunks...wtf! That shit really got to me. Well, if you dont think jay is cool, i fucking agree with you. And brazilian women are fucking awesome. I would put girls from southerrn cali up against them though..tough choice as to who's the best. Not to derail the thread...fuck jay...and his crisco sponsored biceps.
Ya, all that student/teacher shit is total bullshit. No doubt Jay's using Phil to stay in the limelight now that Palumboism has attacked Jays upper body.
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I have been lifting weights for nearly 40 years. I have been in many a gym. I have seen what the work ethic is like now for the most part and it's sad. No one squats anymore or if they do it's really shallow. Incline barbell and dumbbell presses are really a short range of motion so they can grab the really big weights that in truth they couldn't handle doing it properly. Deadlifts are done from a cage off of pins because if it was on the floor they couldn't pick it up. The leg press is the biggest disgrace. Load a 1000 plus pounds and keep the back board upright and do little shallow knee bends. What's with all the young men walking on a treadmill? Lazy fucks.
exactly....right on the money
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looks like he's having a hard time with the weight. why would you get photoed with such a puny poundage. he should be ashamed to be useing 50 lb dbs much less a barbell.
Maybe he don't give a fuck, because he is just coming back from bicep surgery??
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those feet look very hittable (no homo)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=426012.0;attach=469681;image)
That made me LOL.
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;D ;D
Sorry, but saying that curling a 50 pound dumbbell will get you that big because of constant tension is utter crap :-\
I was talking about tension tout court, not necessarily "constant tension".
You seem to be unable to grasp the fact that some people are able to contract muscles harder than other people, with or without weights. The better you are at contracting, the less weight you will need/can use. This is so simple yet seemingly very hard to grasp ;)
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Your twinky kid using the same 50 lbs as Jay Cutler will in all likelihood, be contracting WAY less per rep and thus be training less hard as well. You're a fool if yoy think you can equate weight on the bar to what the target muscle is actually generating.
Most strong guys are all leverage and neurological efficiency anyway. Hope this helps.
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Oh come on, Ive seen 14 year olds in the gym curl 50 pound barbells without grimacing.
Fucking this! What's the point of being a roid monster if you lift like pussy.
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mmmm, muffins. yummy
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Maybe he don't give a fuck, because he is just coming back from bicep surgery??
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Schutzstaffel
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It's good to be Jay. He lives his dreams every day.
Jay at 268 pounds. May 15, 2012.
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It's good to be Jay. He lives his dreams every day.
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The person behind the camera is annoying.
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Jay is really small at 268# ::)
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It's good to be Jay. He lives his dreams every day.
Jay at 268 pounds. May 15, 2012.
Funny they didn't show the 25 pound plate on the weight scale when he stepped on it ;)
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Why do you have to tell people you have a place out here? WTF. This dudes life isn't going to end well. Such and attention whore. I think over the next year, we are going to see a bunch of leg shots from Jay but hardly any upper body shots. Now that DAVID PALUMBOISM has set is roots into Jays upper body.
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Jay is really small at 268# ::)
He wants people to believe that he now diets up for shows. LOL. Ya right. a guy 20% bodyfat is going to diet up for this contest. LMFAO. You're not Kevin Levrone Jay.
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That cameraman is CREEPY as FUCK. He has to be a gay homosexual, no ifs and butts about it.
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He has the same pretentious tone of voice when talking to jay,with an undertone of 'I want to have sex with you', as a guy talking to a hot girl. I can't be the only one who noticed that? :-X
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He has the same pretentious tone of voice when talking to jay,with an undertone of 'I want to have sex with you', as a guy talking to a hot girl. I can't be the only one who noticed that? :-X
Jay and him most likely have bi-sexual sex. The way a man close to 40 points out another mans legs is really weird. Especially since Jay is a millionaire.
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He wants people to believe that he now diets up for shows. LOL. Ya right. a guy 20% bodyfat is going to diet up for this contest. LMFAO. You're not Kevin Levrone Jay.
We know he has never done this before.
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The guy filming has a creepy Mr. Magoo laugh.
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finally jay acting human and not so sad
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finally jay acting human and not so sad
True! He's looking pretty big considering how much time he took off.
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That cameraman is CREEPY as FUCK. He has to be a gay homosexual, no ifs and butts about it.
I think its the guy from the Bang Bus website.
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