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NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram Penis in Suspect's Mouth
New York City Police Sgt. Lesly Charles may have a long penis but he’s short on brains, never realizing a suspect was video recording as he threatened to ram his lengthy penis in the suspect’s mouth.
Charles also threatened to ram his pistol inside the man’s anus before telling him he had a pretty face.
Charles also told the man, who was getting harassed for parking illegally, that he didn’t mind the “hustling” as long as he paid him respect.
http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-threatening-to-ram-penis-in-suspects-mouth
“I have the long d--k. You don’t,” the cop bragged.
“Your pretty face — I like it very much. My d--k will go in your mouth and come out your ear. Don’t f--k with me. All right?”
After the target of his tirade insisted, “I didn’t do anything,” Charles retorted, “Listen to me. When you see me, you look the other way. Tell your boys, I don’t f--k around. All right?”
“I’ll take my gun and put it up your a-- and then I’ll call your mother afterwards. You understand that?”
For good measure, the sergeant added: “And I’ll put your s--t in your own mouth.”
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didn't SMM claim to be NYPD?
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That's OK. Everyone hates the police and most cops become alcoholics and then commit suicide, so it's no big deal.
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thats not onebigtrap
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Honestly, I think a lot of people here would be surprised by how many NYPD officers will talk to you like this. I myself have experienced it and know many others too. I am a suit and tie white guy also. It could be for something as trivial as crossing the street in the middle of the block. I mainly just thought it was funny though. The shit he says to this guy is honestly hilarious. It's what you get when you hire thugs and give them some power.
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many people get those jobs as they have nasty fantasies,
hes black so its all good, if its was a white cop they would be talking to him about taking a plea for 80 years
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Wow. What a disgrace to the honest police out there. Dude needs to be fired.
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actually, the video doesnt look any bad at all... i was reading the text of the story and i was ready to type a reply saying the cop is a jerk, but after watching teh video, i have mucho respecto forr the cop...
you cant arrest people for illegally parking ( yeah u can but not worth it), and the camera guy seemed like a fag, thinking he probably owns the street and can park wherever, and it wasnt his first run in with this cop, so i can understand the cop trying to use some scare tactics etc...
yeah it wasnt th epolitically right thing to do, but im all ok with it
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ronnie was a good cop :)
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I imagine that is how policing is done on the Planet of the Apes
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cop was speaking to them in language they could understand
suddenly everyone turns into a whiny bitch when cops put them in their place
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actually, the video doesnt look any bad at all... i was reading the text of the story and i was ready to type a reply saying the cop is a jerk, but after watching teh video, i have mucho respecto forr the cop...
you cant arrest people for illegally parking ( yeah u can but not worth it), and the camera guy seemed like a fag, thinking he probably owns the street and can park wherever, and it wasnt his first run in with this cop, so i can understand the cop trying to use some scare tactics etc...
yeah it wasnt th epolitically right thing to do, but im all ok with it
Yea, he used some harsh languange but it appears that he was talking about him and all of his friends and had done whatever he did before numerous times. He didn't arrest him or anything and it appears that the video was edited prior to what occurred.
He'll get a reprimand and maybe suspended for a few days but he won't be fired
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How did I know the LEO was going to be black before I even opened the vid? This is a disgrace, and it's shit like this that gives cops a bad name. :-\
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if a guy talked to his wife or kids like that, most of us would step up and say "class fck, WTF is wrong with you?"
But becauase it's a dude with a badge, we just step aside.
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;D you have a pretty mouth city boy...
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Most getbiggers would be excited to get such a sexy offer from a cop.
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How did I know the LEO was going to be black before I even opened the vid? This is a disgrace, and it's shit like this that gives cops a bad name. :-\
Because you are a racist?
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NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram Penis in Suspect's Mouth
New York City Police Sgt. Lesly Charles may have a long penis but he’s short on brains, never realizing a suspect was video recording as he threatened to ram his lengthy penis in the suspect’s mouth.
Charles also threatened to ram his pistol inside the man’s anus before telling him he had a pretty face.
Charles also told the man, who was getting harassed for parking illegally, that he didn’t mind the “hustling” as long as he paid him respect.
http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-threatening-to-ram-penis-in-suspects-mouth
“I have the long d--k. You don’t,” the cop bragged.
“Your pretty face — I like it very much. My d--k will go in your mouth and come out your ear. Don’t f--k with me. All right?”
After the target of his tirade insisted, “I didn’t do anything,” Charles retorted, “Listen to me. When you see me, you look the other way. Tell your boys, I don’t f--k around. All right?”
“I’ll take my gun and put it up your a-- and then I’ll call your mother afterwards. You understand that?”
For good measure, the sergeant added: “And I’ll put your s--t in your own mouth.”
heres the vid
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Because you are a racist?
No, because of the lengthy penis. ;D
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cop was speaking to them in language they could understand
suddenly everyone turns into a whiny bitch when cops put them in their place
Still abuse of power. Regardless if the suspect is a whinny bitch or not. It is called being professional not everyone should be allowed to be a cop.
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that cop is only gay if he wants to be
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the penis is only the finishing 9 inches.
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ATM with a pistol, that's awesome.
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Penis of peace.
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that cop is only gay if he wants to be
Seriously tho, didnt it sound like the cop was doing a gay version of Denzel Washington character in training day?
i was waiting for dude to say "You wanna go to jail or you wanna go home?"
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Religion of police
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Seriously tho, didnt it sound like the cop was doing a gay version of Denzel Washington character in training day?
i was waiting for dude to say "You wanna go to jail or you wanna go home?"
(https://www.criminology.fsu.edu/crimefilm/images/trainingday1.jpg)
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Religion of police
gun up the ass of peace ::)
(http://mimg.ugo.com/201101/3/9/5/163593/cuts/crank-high-voltage-1_528_poster.jpg)
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cop was speaking to them in language they could understand
suddenly everyone turns into a whiny bitch when cops put them in their place
translation-wish he would put his penis in my mouth and a gun in my ass
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translation-wish he would put his penis in my mouth and a gun in my ass
Hahaha
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Penis of peace.
LOL ;D
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Justin_Volpe.jpg)
The Abner Louima case: three New York cops guilty in cover-up of torture
By Bill Vann
9 March 2000
A federal court jury in Brooklyn convicted three New York City cops March 6 of conspiring to cover up the 1997 stationhouse torture of Haitian immigrant Abner Louima.
Thomas Weise and Thomas Bruder each face five years in prison on the charge of conspiracy to obstruct a federal investigation into the savage assault on Louima. The third cop, Charles Schwarz, was convicted in a previous trial as an accomplice with Justin Volpe in torturing the immigrant worker inside the bathroom of the 70th Precinct in the Flatbush section of Brooklyn.
Volpe, convicted of sodomizing Louima with a broken piece of a broomstick, tearing a one-inch hole in his rectum and bladder, was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Schwarz, who was found guilty of holding Louima down during the attack, faces up to a life sentence.
The three cops greeted the verdict with disbelief and rage. "They're f—-ing liars; this is f—-ing bullshit," exclaimed Schwarz, who turned his wrath on his lawyer. As he was taken back into custody he slammed the wall and shouted out other obscenities. The other two defendants spilled out into the sixth-floor hallway with family members, other cops and PBA officials, cursing and crying. Bruder threw things at the wall, while Weise shouted "I'll f—-ing kill you" to someone who tried to come to the assistance of his mother who fell to the floor, sobbing hysterically. Court guards, who would have undoubtedly moved to quell such a disturbance by any other group of convicted criminals, turned a sympathetic eye to this spectacle.
The city's largest police union, the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association (PBA), had insisted since the first trial that Schwarz was wrongly convicted and had vowed to prove his innocence in the conspiracy trial. Flush with the acquittal of the four Street Crime Unit cops charged in the shooting of Amadou Diallo, it had anticipated not-guilty verdicts all around, rather than an across-the-board conviction in this case.
Unlike the first Louima trial, where all of the cops remained mute, Schwarz took the stand in his own defense and Volpe was also brought from prison to testify that it had been Weise, not Schwarz, who was with him in the bathroom during his torture of the immigrant worker.
The jury, however, appeared to find both accounts implausible. While much of the prosecution's case was circumstantial, including records of phone calls made between the defendants and from them to their alleged co-conspirators among both present and former officials in the PBA, the conflicting and changing stories told by the cops could not be concealed by the defense. Schwarz himself claimed, unbelievably, that he was unaware of the nature of the attack on Louima, even after Police Department Internal Affairs Bureau (IAB) investigators swarmed over the precinct. Under a withering cross-examination, he answered question after question with the claim that he could not remember.
In the earlier trial, cops testified that Volpe had made no secret of his depraved attack. Rather he paraded through the stationhouse with the stick in his hand, and bragged how he had "broken a man down."
New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and the New York Police Department both tried to claim the Louima case as the "exception that proves the rule"; a handful of rogue cops who had been brought to justice because of testimony given by other police officers and the work of the IAB.
In fact, the police investigation was forced by front-page news stories that were generated by an emergency room nurse who contacted the media about Louima's horrific injuries. Cops who testified against Volpe, Schwarz and the other two officers were themselves complicit in the cover-up until it became clear that criminal indictments were imminent. In reality, the obstruction of justice charge would have been applicable to, at the very least, the scores of cops on duty from the time Louima was arrested until he was loaded into an ambulance at the 70th Precinct, and in all probability, to higher ups in the department who hoped the scandal would blow over.
In a more fundamental sense, the stationhouse torture took place within a definite political and social environment that has been fostered in New York. The police have been given awesome powers by a government that is determined to defend the wealth, privileges and well-being of a small layer of the wealthy by suppressing the rights of the millions of working class and poor residents, many of them, like Diallo and Louima, immigrants.
In the trial, the prosecution claimed that Volpe and Schwarz shared a common motive for assaulting Louima, that of "teaching him to respect cops" after an evening in which both men had been struck while dispersing a crowd outside a Haitian nightclub. This was not just the sentiment of a few out-of-control precinct bullies, however. It had been nurtured by an administration that has repeatedly tried to blame the victims of police murder and brutality for the crimes carried out against them.
Federal prosecutors, however, were at pains to disavow any connection between the Louima case and the wider phenomenon of murderous brutality and rampant corruption within the NYPD. US Attorney Loretta Lynch said that the central lesson of the proceeding had been that lying about a "fellow officer" was the worst "betrayal of the badge and the brotherhood." She said that the verdict helped bring "closure" to the city. The lead prosecutor, Assistant US Attorney Alan Vinegrad, brushed aside a reporter's question about the connection of the case to the widespread cover-up by the NYPD of police brutality, insisting that it was merely about "three individuals who lied to protect one of their own."
The trial also exposed the role of the PBA, which provides a key element of the so-called "Blue Wall of Silence" under which cops systematically lie about incidents of police abuse. The practice is so common that, as was reported by the 1994 Mollen Commission, formed to investigate a raging scandal over brutality and drug-trafficking by police, officers themselves talk about "testilying" in court.
Called as a hostile witness by the prosecution was Michael Immitt, a PBA trustee, roughly the equivalent of a business agent, who chaired a meeting in which the prosecution said the plot was hatched to lie about Schwarz's presence during the bathroom assault. Immitt claimed on the stand that he did not know the nature of the charges the cops were facing, even on the day that the attack on Louima made banner headlines in the daily papers.
Also called to the stand was Anthony Abate, a former PBA 70th Precinct delegate who was fired from the Police Department for using racial slurs against a black cop and lying about an obscenity-laced tongue-lashing he had given a young female officer after she tried to deliver a lecture on domestic violence at the stationhouse. Asked about scores of phone calls made to him by the officers involved in Louima's arrest after revelations of his ordeal first surfaced, he claimed that his only role had been to lend the cops "a sympathetic ear."
Weise succeeded Abbate as a precinct delegate, while Volpe's brother also held that post in the union. This was hardly the first case of union delegates being implicated in cases of extreme brutality. Francis X. Livoti, a Bronx cop, was jailed on federal civil rights charges for the December 1994 strangling death of Anthony Baez, whose crime was that he allowed his football to strike Livoti's patrol car.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Justin_Volpe.jpg)
The Abner Louima case: three New York cops guilty in cover-up of torture
By Bill Vann
9 March 2000
A federal court jury in Brooklyn convicted three New York City cops March 6 of conspiring to cover up the 1997 stationhouse torture of Haitian immigrant Abner Louima.
Thomas Weise and Thomas Bruder each face five years in prison on the charge of conspiracy to obstruct a federal investigation into the savage assault on Louima. The third cop, Charles Schwarz, was convicted in a previous trial as an accomplice with Justin Volpe in torturing the immigrant worker inside the bathroom of the 70th Precinct in the Flatbush section of Brooklyn.
Volpe, convicted of sodomizing Louima with a broken piece of a broomstick, tearing a one-inch hole in his rectum and bladder, was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Schwarz, who was found guilty of holding Louima down during the attack, faces up to a life sentence.
The three cops greeted the verdict with disbelief and rage. "They're f—-ing liars; this is f—-ing bullshit," exclaimed Schwarz, who turned his wrath on his lawyer. As he was taken back into custody he slammed the wall and shouted out other obscenities. The other two defendants spilled out into the sixth-floor hallway with family members, other cops and PBA officials, cursing and crying. Bruder threw things at the wall, while Weise shouted "I'll f—-ing kill you" to someone who tried to come to the assistance of his mother who fell to the floor, sobbing hysterically. Court guards, who would have undoubtedly moved to quell such a disturbance by any other group of convicted criminals, turned a sympathetic eye to this spectacle.
The city's largest police union, the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association (PBA), had insisted since the first trial that Schwarz was wrongly convicted and had vowed to prove his innocence in the conspiracy trial. Flush with the acquittal of the four Street Crime Unit cops charged in the shooting of Amadou Diallo, it had anticipated not-guilty verdicts all around, rather than an across-the-board conviction in this case.
Unlike the first Louima trial, where all of the cops remained mute, Schwarz took the stand in his own defense and Volpe was also brought from prison to testify that it had been Weise, not Schwarz, who was with him in the bathroom during his torture of the immigrant worker.
The jury, however, appeared to find both accounts implausible. While much of the prosecution's case was circumstantial, including records of phone calls made between the defendants and from them to their alleged co-conspirators among both present and former officials in the PBA, the conflicting and changing stories told by the cops could not be concealed by the defense. Schwarz himself claimed, unbelievably, that he was unaware of the nature of the attack on Louima, even after Police Department Internal Affairs Bureau (IAB) investigators swarmed over the precinct. Under a withering cross-examination, he answered question after question with the claim that he could not remember.
In the earlier trial, cops testified that Volpe had made no secret of his depraved attack. Rather he paraded through the stationhouse with the stick in his hand, and bragged how he had "broken a man down."
New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and the New York Police Department both tried to claim the Louima case as the "exception that proves the rule"; a handful of rogue cops who had been brought to justice because of testimony given by other police officers and the work of the IAB.
In fact, the police investigation was forced by front-page news stories that were generated by an emergency room nurse who contacted the media about Louima's horrific injuries. Cops who testified against Volpe, Schwarz and the other two officers were themselves complicit in the cover-up until it became clear that criminal indictments were imminent. In reality, the obstruction of justice charge would have been applicable to, at the very least, the scores of cops on duty from the time Louima was arrested until he was loaded into an ambulance at the 70th Precinct, and in all probability, to higher ups in the department who hoped the scandal would blow over.
In a more fundamental sense, the stationhouse torture took place within a definite political and social environment that has been fostered in New York. The police have been given awesome powers by a government that is determined to defend the wealth, privileges and well-being of a small layer of the wealthy by suppressing the rights of the millions of working class and poor residents, many of them, like Diallo and Louima, immigrants.
In the trial, the prosecution claimed that Volpe and Schwarz shared a common motive for assaulting Louima, that of "teaching him to respect cops" after an evening in which both men had been struck while dispersing a crowd outside a Haitian nightclub. This was not just the sentiment of a few out-of-control precinct bullies, however. It had been nurtured by an administration that has repeatedly tried to blame the victims of police murder and brutality for the crimes carried out against them.
Federal prosecutors, however, were at pains to disavow any connection between the Louima case and the wider phenomenon of murderous brutality and rampant corruption within the NYPD. US Attorney Loretta Lynch said that the central lesson of the proceeding had been that lying about a "fellow officer" was the worst "betrayal of the badge and the brotherhood." She said that the verdict helped bring "closure" to the city. The lead prosecutor, Assistant US Attorney Alan Vinegrad, brushed aside a reporter's question about the connection of the case to the widespread cover-up by the NYPD of police brutality, insisting that it was merely about "three individuals who lied to protect one of their own."
The trial also exposed the role of the PBA, which provides a key element of the so-called "Blue Wall of Silence" under which cops systematically lie about incidents of police abuse. The practice is so common that, as was reported by the 1994 Mollen Commission, formed to investigate a raging scandal over brutality and drug-trafficking by police, officers themselves talk about "testilying" in court.
Called as a hostile witness by the prosecution was Michael Immitt, a PBA trustee, roughly the equivalent of a business agent, who chaired a meeting in which the prosecution said the plot was hatched to lie about Schwarz's presence during the bathroom assault. Immitt claimed on the stand that he did not know the nature of the charges the cops were facing, even on the day that the attack on Louima made banner headlines in the daily papers.
Also called to the stand was Anthony Abate, a former PBA 70th Precinct delegate who was fired from the Police Department for using racial slurs against a black cop and lying about an obscenity-laced tongue-lashing he had given a young female officer after she tried to deliver a lecture on domestic violence at the stationhouse. Asked about scores of phone calls made to him by the officers involved in Louima's arrest after revelations of his ordeal first surfaced, he claimed that his only role had been to lend the cops "a sympathetic ear."
Weise succeeded Abbate as a precinct delegate, while Volpe's brother also held that post in the union. This was hardly the first case of union delegates being implicated in cases of extreme brutality. Francis X. Livoti, a Bronx cop, was jailed on federal civil rights charges for the December 1994 strangling death of Anthony Baez, whose crime was that he allowed his football to strike Livoti's patrol car.
holy shit. is that true? fucking animals.
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Don't fuck with the cops, unless you have 100 angry rioters backing you up. =•>
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Volpe, convicted of sodomizing Louima with a broken piece of a broomstick, tearing a one-inch hole in his rectum and bladder, was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Schwarz, who was found guilty of holding Louima down during the attack, faces up to a life sentence.
In the earlier trial, cops testified that Volpe had made no secret of his depraved attack. Rather he paraded through the stationhouse with the stick in his hand, and bragged how he had "broken a man down."
Thats some incredibly repressed homosexuality - fancy being known for sodmozing another man to severe injury and then bragging about it to colleagues - what's worse is a Police culture that doesn't question it. Those Pigs wont last in jail.
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I imagine that is how policing is done on the Planet of the Apes
The man who will rebuild the twin towers with his bare hands bowing down to an ape... >:(
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Thats some incredibly repressed homosexuality - fancy being known for sodmozing another man to severe injury and then bragging about it to colleagues - what's worse is a Police culture that doesn't question it. Those Pigs wont last in jail.
I'm not even going to pretend I know what is going though these sick animals' heads.
But do you think there is any truth to "it's just a power thing"?
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Police Ethics - Corruption of the Noble Cause by Calderon is a good read for anyone trying to get their head around things like this. I highly recommend it for new officers and implementing many of the aspects of this book into training at the Academy level as well as the Command level would in my opinion have a postive impact on policing in the future.
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See results of stanford prison experiment. This shows human tendency when given absolute power and human tendency when being a part of group who are in subservient position
That is talked about in the book I mentioned. 24 college students who tested normal aptitude and tendancies, took part in a study that was to last 2 weeks. 12 guards, 12 prisoners kept 24/7 in the basement in classrooms made up as cells. The guards had shifts and worked 8 hrs a day but the prisoners stayed the whole time. After 2 days the guards actions deteriated and after 6 days the experiment had to be stopped due to abuses.
They were acting as they "thought" guards should act, but without the benefit of training and supervision became very abusive. A follow up experiment years later tended to conclude that the more intense and stressful a group becomes, the more chance authoritarian/dictator rule will take place.
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Because you are a racist?
Haha fuck that! I lived on the edges of St. Louis city for years! Fuck blacks ! They take otherwise good, middle class neighborhoods and turn them to shit. Why is that? EVERY FUCKING CITY That is predominantly black is a fucking shithole? Between the blacks and mexicans America is turning into a shithole country. I could give a fuck if people call me racist anymore. I know blacks as I've lived with them, gone to school with them, befriended them etc. They are sometimes more racist than any white people I've ever known. Even the wealthier blacks in Hollywood and pro sports act like ni ## ers. It's a black thang!!!!! Oklahoma City is turning into one of the most violent cities in the country. Guess why? Tons of blacks taking over. Seriously, this country is not for white people anymore. It's about time all the intelligent, hard working, white people move the fuck up north to Canada.
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That is talked about in the book I mentioned. 24 college students who tested normal aptitude and tendancies, took part in a study that was to last 2 weeks. 12 guards, 12 prisoners kept 24/7 in the basement in classrooms made up as cells. The guards had shifts and worked 8 hrs a day but the prisoners stayed the whole time. After 2 days the guards actions deteriated and after 6 days the experiment had to be stopped due to abuses.
They were acting as they "thought" guards should act, but without the benefit of training and supervision became very abusive. A follow up experiment years later tended to conclude that the more intense and stressful a group becomes, the more chance authoritarian/dictator rule will take place.
those were Germans tho ;D
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(https://www.criminology.fsu.edu/crimefilm/images/trainingday1.jpg)
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epic poionting a gun with the safety on
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about 20 years ago in north jersey there was a cop who pulled guys over and banged them in the ass, he would warn them not to say anything and i never did :-[
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Haha fuck that! I lived on the edges of St. Louis city for years! Fuck blacks ! They take otherwise good, middle class neighborhoods and turn them to shit. Why is that? EVERY FUCKING CITY That is predominantly black is a fucking shithole? Between the blacks and mexicans America is turning into a shithole country. I could give a fuck if people call me racist anymore. I know blacks as I've lived with them, gone to school with them, befriended them etc. They are sometimes more racist than any white people I've ever known. Even the wealthier blacks in Hollywood and pro sports act like ni ## ers. It's a black thang!!!!! Oklahoma City is turning into one of the most violent cities in the country. Guess why? Tons of blacks taking over. Seriously, this country is not for white people anymore. It's about time all the intelligent, hard working, white people move the fuck up north to Canada.
when you moving?
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I'm not even going to pretend I know what is going though these sick animals' heads.
But do you think there is any truth to "it's just a power thing"?
I think when a man rapes a woman there is an element of power involved (to put the woman in her gender determined place), but man on man rape is hard to figure, it seems to be all about power but surely there are other ways you can own another man without outing yourself as a MASSIVE HOMOSEXUAL!
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Justin_Volpe.jpg)
The Abner Louima case: three New York cops guilty in cover-up of torture
By Bill Vann
9 March 2000
A federal court jury in Brooklyn convicted three New York City cops March 6 of conspiring to cover up the 1997 stationhouse torture of Haitian immigrant Abner Louima.
Thomas Weise and Thomas Bruder each face five years in prison on the charge of conspiracy to obstruct a federal investigation into the savage assault on Louima. The third cop, Charles Schwarz, was convicted in a previous trial as an accomplice with Justin Volpe in torturing the immigrant worker inside the bathroom of the 70th Precinct in the Flatbush section of Brooklyn.
Volpe, convicted of sodomizing Louima with a broken piece of a broomstick, tearing a one-inch hole in his rectum and bladder, was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Schwarz, who was found guilty of holding Louima down during the attack, faces up to a life sentence.
The three cops greeted the verdict with disbelief and rage. "They're f—-ing liars; this is f—-ing bullshit," exclaimed Schwarz, who turned his wrath on his lawyer. As he was taken back into custody he slammed the wall and shouted out other obscenities. The other two defendants spilled out into the sixth-floor hallway with family members, other cops and PBA officials, cursing and crying. Bruder threw things at the wall, while Weise shouted "I'll f—-ing kill you" to someone who tried to come to the assistance of his mother who fell to the floor, sobbing hysterically. Court guards, who would have undoubtedly moved to quell such a disturbance by any other group of convicted criminals, turned a sympathetic eye to this spectacle.
The city's largest police union, the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association (PBA), had insisted since the first trial that Schwarz was wrongly convicted and had vowed to prove his innocence in the conspiracy trial. Flush with the acquittal of the four Street Crime Unit cops charged in the shooting of Amadou Diallo, it had anticipated not-guilty verdicts all around, rather than an across-the-board conviction in this case.
Unlike the first Louima trial, where all of the cops remained mute, Schwarz took the stand in his own defense and Volpe was also brought from prison to testify that it had been Weise, not Schwarz, who was with him in the bathroom during his torture of the immigrant worker.
The jury, however, appeared to find both accounts implausible. While much of the prosecution's case was circumstantial, including records of phone calls made between the defendants and from them to their alleged co-conspirators among both present and former officials in the PBA, the conflicting and changing stories told by the cops could not be concealed by the defense. Schwarz himself claimed, unbelievably, that he was unaware of the nature of the attack on Louima, even after Police Department Internal Affairs Bureau (IAB) investigators swarmed over the precinct. Under a withering cross-examination, he answered question after question with the claim that he could not remember.
In the earlier trial, cops testified that Volpe had made no secret of his depraved attack. Rather he paraded through the stationhouse with the stick in his hand, and bragged how he had "broken a man down."
New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and the New York Police Department both tried to claim the Louima case as the "exception that proves the rule"; a handful of rogue cops who had been brought to justice because of testimony given by other police officers and the work of the IAB.
In fact, the police investigation was forced by front-page news stories that were generated by an emergency room nurse who contacted the media about Louima's horrific injuries. Cops who testified against Volpe, Schwarz and the other two officers were themselves complicit in the cover-up until it became clear that criminal indictments were imminent. In reality, the obstruction of justice charge would have been applicable to, at the very least, the scores of cops on duty from the time Louima was arrested until he was loaded into an ambulance at the 70th Precinct, and in all probability, to higher ups in the department who hoped the scandal would blow over.
In a more fundamental sense, the stationhouse torture took place within a definite political and social environment that has been fostered in New York. The police have been given awesome powers by a government that is determined to defend the wealth, privileges and well-being of a small layer of the wealthy by suppressing the rights of the millions of working class and poor residents, many of them, like Diallo and Louima, immigrants.
In the trial, the prosecution claimed that Volpe and Schwarz shared a common motive for assaulting Louima, that of "teaching him to respect cops" after an evening in which both men had been struck while dispersing a crowd outside a Haitian nightclub. This was not just the sentiment of a few out-of-control precinct bullies, however. It had been nurtured by an administration that has repeatedly tried to blame the victims of police murder and brutality for the crimes carried out against them.
Federal prosecutors, however, were at pains to disavow any connection between the Louima case and the wider phenomenon of murderous brutality and rampant corruption within the NYPD. US Attorney Loretta Lynch said that the central lesson of the proceeding had been that lying about a "fellow officer" was the worst "betrayal of the badge and the brotherhood." She said that the verdict helped bring "closure" to the city. The lead prosecutor, Assistant US Attorney Alan Vinegrad, brushed aside a reporter's question about the connection of the case to the widespread cover-up by the NYPD of police brutality, insisting that it was merely about "three individuals who lied to protect one of their own."
The trial also exposed the role of the PBA, which provides a key element of the so-called "Blue Wall of Silence" under which cops systematically lie about incidents of police abuse. The practice is so common that, as was reported by the 1994 Mollen Commission, formed to investigate a raging scandal over brutality and drug-trafficking by police, officers themselves talk about "testilying" in court.
Called as a hostile witness by the prosecution was Michael Immitt, a PBA trustee, roughly the equivalent of a business agent, who chaired a meeting in which the prosecution said the plot was hatched to lie about Schwarz's presence during the bathroom assault. Immitt claimed on the stand that he did not know the nature of the charges the cops were facing, even on the day that the attack on Louima made banner headlines in the daily papers.
Also called to the stand was Anthony Abate, a former PBA 70th Precinct delegate who was fired from the Police Department for using racial slurs against a black cop and lying about an obscenity-laced tongue-lashing he had given a young female officer after she tried to deliver a lecture on domestic violence at the stationhouse. Asked about scores of phone calls made to him by the officers involved in Louima's arrest after revelations of his ordeal first surfaced, he claimed that his only role had been to lend the cops "a sympathetic ear."
Weise succeeded Abbate as a precinct delegate, while Volpe's brother also held that post in the union. This was hardly the first case of union delegates being implicated in cases of extreme brutality. Francis X. Livoti, a Bronx cop, was jailed on federal civil rights charges for the December 1994 strangling death of Anthony Baez, whose crime was that he allowed his football to strike Livoti's patrol car.
Bill Vann is another writer the shitstain 'benny negro' likes to cut and paste. Vann, it turns out, is a 100% anti-American communist. He is associated with this group:
"The International Committee of the Fourth International (ICFI) is the name of two Trotskyist internationals; one with sections named Socialist Equality Party which publishes the World Socialist Web Site and another linked to the Workers Revolutionary Party in Britain."
So you see the shitstain "benny negro" really hates white people and Americans almost as much as he hates himself for being the color of feces.
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translation-wish he would put his penis in my mouth and a gun in my ass
very funny dan
but not as funny as your giant forehead
the hideous apparation that faces you every time you look in the mirror is comedy for the ages
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Bill Vann is another writer the shitstain 'benny negro' likes to cut and paste. Vann, it turns out, is a 100% anti-American communist. He is associated with this group:
"The International Committee of the Fourth International (ICFI) is the name of two Trotskyist internationals; one with sections named Socialist Equality Party which publishes the World Socialist Web Site and another linked to the Workers Revolutionary Party in Britain."
So you see the shitstain "benny negro" really hates white people and Americans almost as much as he hates himself for being the color of feces.
lol
Damn "juruth"...you are still really butthurt that I exposed you as a multiple-account gimmick. :-\
Go ahead and let that bitterness and racism flow. I'm sure it is cathartic for you. :P
"Bill Vann"...never heard of him or even noticed his name on that article until you mentioned it. You know a heck of a lot more about him than I do, juruth. Great job researching some guy nobody knows or cares about.
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lol
Damn "juruth"...you are still really butthurt that I exposed you as a multiple-account gimmick. :-\
Go ahead and let that bitterness and racism flow. I'm sure it is cathartic for you. :P
"Bill Vann"...never heard of him or even noticed his name on that article until you mentioned it. You know a heck of a lot more about him than I do, juruth. Great job researching some guy nobody knows or cares about.
You dodnt expose shit except how stupid you are. Of course you don't know who your cutting and pasting. You don't even read the articles because your too dumb to understand them. Must be nice going through life the color of feces.
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doesn't the average cop has no more than a high school education?........
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doesn't the average cop has no more than a high school education?........
I'll give your sentence a try... I think you want to know if the average cop only has a high school education.
Generally, most departments of any significant size will have some minimum college hours required. For many of the more professional departments a 2 yr degree is required. But I'm sure given the vast number of agencies out there, some as small as 2 man "departments" you can find many that don't require any college.
Usually, there is an attempt to balance what you as a department would like the minimum criteria to be, with trying to get enough eligible candidates to fill the vacancies. If you set an associates as the minimum education, what will you do when you can't fill those vacancies with bodies? So it's a matter of setting reasonable criteria to get the best potential candidates and still have enough recruits to run your department
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fuck tha police
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I'll give your sentence a try... I think you want to know if the average cop only has a high school education.
Generally, most departments of any significant size will have some minimum college hours required. For many of the more professional departments a 2 yr degree is required. But I'm sure given the vast number of agencies out there, some as small as 2 man "departments" you can find many that don't require any college.
Usually, there is an attempt to balance what you as a department would like the minimum criteria to be, with trying to get enough eligible candidates to fill the vacancies. If you set an associates as the minimum education, what will you do when you can't fill those vacancies with bodies? So it's a matter of setting reasonable criteria to get the best potential candidates and still have enough recruits to run your department
i googled. ;D NYPD Requires
Possess a valid high school diploma or its educational equivalent.
Successfully completed either sixty (60) college credits from an accredited college or university with at least a 2.0 GPA or two (2) years, full-time United States Military Service.
not hard to meet those requirements. I bet a lot of people try to join just for the power trip. :-\
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i googled. ;D NYPD Requires
Possess a valid high school diploma or its educational equivalent.
Successfully completed either sixty (60) college credits from an accredited college or university with at least a 2.0 GPA or two (2) years, full-time United States Military Service.
not hard to meet those requirements. I bet a lot of people try to join just for the power trip. :-\
No doubt they do. No doubt the police departments are aware of that motivation and try their best to pass on them. Departments aren't looking for law suits and probably don't enjoy paying out millions in law suits because of those power hungry thugs. I've sat on several boards for potential candidates for my department and we get pretty good at identifying those. Their background history can reveal those tendencies as well. But try as we might, some will slip thorugh and it is then up to their peers, supervisors and the community to identify them and get them removed.
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No doubt they do. No doubt the police departments are aware of that motivation and try their best to pass on them. Departments aren't looking for law suits and probably don't enjoy paying out millions in law suits because of those power hungry thugs. I've sat on several boards for potential candidates for my department and we get pretty good at identifying those. Their background history can reveal those tendencies as well. But try as we might, some will slip thorugh and it is then up to their peers, supervisors and the community to identify them and get them removed.
How do you punished those that slip though? ???
Is there any true to the rumors that police cover for the corrupted police?
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How do you punished those that slip though? ???
Is there any true to the rumors that police cover for the corrupted police?
I think it can't be denied that in some departments some police cover for some officers. That culture has been slowly erroding in the last 20 yrs but in many places it still exists. I think even in the worst departments there are officers that will report unethical or criminal behavior of other officers
Only speaking for the departments I'm familiar with and especially my own, it's more rare to see a cover up than to have an officer report an officer. The culture from day 1 of training has changed and it's accepted that if you screw up, you pay. Now there are probably situations where it still happens, but again, not very common. Most Internal Affairs complaints on officers originate from within the department than outside the department these days.
We have a discipline matrix we follow as for your first question. Depending on the seriousness of the offense it can be a written reprimand up to indefinite suspension
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How do you punished those that slip though? ???
Is there any true to the rumors that police cover for the corrupted police?
Not rumors, Blue Shield has been happening since the forces began - we are talking about the enforcers of GOVERNMENT - do you really think the Government is going to let the Public know how sick and twisted they really are, no, this is why they spend trillions on keeping their populations brainwashed via propaganda and dodgy curriculum. Don't listen to a Police officer, this shit goes all the way to the top, and the majority of officers are just pawns, they are just as afraid as the average citizen, the Police Force itself is a sophisticated criminal organisation, so successful in fact, they have convinced the Public that they are the good guys. Amazing what Power and Money can do, the average citizen is far more likey to be caused trauma and suffering from it's own Government (especially Police) than they will ever face from any supposed criminal organisations.
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HISTORY
Blue Code of Silence and police corruption stems from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. The Pinkerton National Detective Agency were known for using police officers to violently end strikes. Many members of the Ku Klux Klan were police officers that protected each other when conducting racist acts. This later gave rise to the Civil Rights Act of 1964,which gave new protections to citizens who had long suffered discriminatory policing.
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HISTORY
Blue Code of Silence and police corruption stems from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. The Pinkerton National Detective Agency were known for using police officers to violently end strikes. Many members of the Ku Klux Klan were police officers that protected each other when conducting racist acts. This later gave rise to the Civil Rights Act of 1964,which gave new protections to citizens who had long suffered discriminatory policing.
DAmn, that is totally fucked.
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HISTORY
Blue Code of Silence and police corruption stems from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. The Pinkerton National Detective Agency were known for using police officers to violently end strikes. Many members of the Ku Klux Klan were police officers that protected each other when conducting racist acts. This later gave rise to the Civil Rights Act of 1964,which gave new protections to citizens who had long suffered discriminatory policing.
good posts, we are on the same wave length. not sure if you posted this on the thread about your screen name meaning but is yours an acronym for school en francias?
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NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram Penis in Suspect's Mouth
New York City Police Sgt. Lesly Charles may have a long penis but he’s short on brains, never realizing a suspect was video recording as he threatened to ram his lengthy penis in the suspect’s mouth.
Charles also threatened to ram his pistol inside the man’s anus before telling him he had a pretty face.
Charles also told the man, who was getting harassed for parking illegally, that he didn’t mind the “hustling” as long as he paid him respect.
http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-threatening-to-ram-penis-in-suspects-mouth
“I have the long d--k. You don’t,” the cop bragged.
“Your pretty face — I like it very much. My d--k will go in your mouth and come out your ear. Don’t f--k with me. All right?”
After the target of his tirade insisted, “I didn’t do anything,” Charles retorted, “Listen to me. When you see me, you look the other way. Tell your boys, I don’t f--k around. All right?”
“I’ll take my gun and put it up your a-- and then I’ll call your mother afterwards. You understand that?”
For good measure, the sergeant added: “And I’ll put your s--t in your own mouth.”
Had that been a man saying that to a woman,the cops would have labeled him a perv and locked him up..!?
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DAmn, that is totally fucked.
There's always power in numbers no matter what the topic. Cops are human so its obvious that they would form a tribe-like atmosphere among the work force. The police force is almost like a religion. Try to find people who go against scientology. Sure they're out there, but there few and far between.
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Any college kid who joins a Sorority shows the early signs that he can be brainwashed and work for the Hierarchy
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There's always power in numbers no matter what the topic. Cops are human so its obvious that they would form a tribe-like atmosphere among the work force. The police force is almost like a religion. Try to find people who go against scientology. Sure they're out there, but there few and far between.
The difference between Scientology and similar groups vs police. Is that that we the tax payers fund the police and trust them with a sense of duty and power.
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HISTORY
Blue Code of Silence and police corruption stems from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. The Pinkerton National Detective Agency were known for using police officers to violently end strikes. Many members of the Ku Klux Klan were police officers that protected each other when conducting racist acts. This later gave rise to the Civil Rights Act of 1964,which gave new protections to citizens who had long suffered discriminatory policing.
But.. with August Volmer and the establishment of a new era of "professionalism" and the advent of the IACP steps had been taken dating back to the 20's to create a more professional department. Everything you said is accurate, but this is not your grandfathers era and things are rapidly evolving. In the last 10 yrs for example, departments have increased college hours required. Many mid to large departments are going to or have gone to video. Departments are offering West Point Leadership Academy training to supervisors as well as many other opportunities for training and improvement. Our department developed a Leadership Command College that all Lieutenants are required to attend. Then there is long term training like the FBI Academy as well. Sorry that you and others feel the way you do. Certainly there are examples on youtube that can lead a person down that trail. But with 100's of thousands of positive and uneventful citizen contacts each year, you are looking at a very small percentage. Hopefully we can reduce that percentage even more.
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But.. with August Volmer and the establishment of a new era of "professionalism" and the advent of the IACP steps had been taken dating back to the 20's to create a more professional department. Everything you said is accurate, but this is not your grandfathers era and things are rapidly evolving. In the last 10 yrs for example, departments have increased college hours required. Many mid to large departments are going to or have gone to video. Departments are offering West Point Leadership Academy training to supervisors as well as many other opportunities for training and improvement. Our department developed a Leadership Command College that all Lieutenants are required to attend. Then there is long term training like the FBI Academy as well. Sorry that you and others feel the way you do. Certainly there are examples on youtube that can lead a person down that trail. But with 100's of thousands of positive and uneventful citizen contacts each year, you are looking at a very small percentage. Hopefully we can reduce that percentage even more.
Hard to respect a Government that uses Riot Squads to intimidate, harass and beat citizens during lawful protests, using Tasers, batons and other Government legislation to punish citizens for little or no infractions without any trial. Here in Australia, the deep level of corruption is well known amongst those that matter with retired Royal Commissioners reporting on how entrenched and possibly unfixable it all is. The average citizen can just hope and pray the officer they run into is having A GOOD DAY! The sad fact is, the Police force has become a attitude police force, taking away dissent and anti establishment behaviour serving a Political Corporate Elite. The crooks rarely get caught and are often largely intertwined with Officialdom at the highest level. Jails are full of poor people and drug users, people who were used and abused by this intolerable system in the first place. The whole thing is disgusting, the end game for these Elitists is too have one sovereign World Army or Power that no other force can rise against - the police are just part of the whole thing - slowly enforcing unjust and corrupt legislation on it's fellow citizens. As a human being who believes that causing another human being suffering also creates suffering within myself, I find it highly disturbing how comfortable the average police person is with dehumanizing and perpetrating violent acts on unarmed non threatening civilians.
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Hard to respect a Government that uses Riot Squads to intimidate, harass and beat citizens during lawful protests, using Tasers, batons and other Government legislation to punish citizens for little or no infractions without any trial. Here in Australia, the deep level of corruption is well known amongst those that matter with retired Royal Commissioners reporting on how entrenched and possibly unfixable it all is. The average citizen can just hope and pray the officer they run into is having A GOOD DAY! The sad fact is, the Police force has become a attitude police force, taking away dissent and anti establishment behaviour serving a Political Corporate Elite. The crooks rarely get caught and are often largely intertwined with Officialdom at the highest level. Jails are full of poor people and drug users, people who were used and abused by this intolerable system in the first place. The whole thing is disgusting, the end game for these Elitists is too have one sovereign World Army or Power that no other force can rise against - the police are just part of the whole thing - slowly enforcing unjust and corrupt legislation on it's fellow citizens. As a human being who believes that causing another human being suffering also creates suffering within myself, I find it highly disturbing how comfortable the average police person is with dehumanizing and perpetrating violent acts on unarmed non threatening civilians.
I'd find it hard to respect that type of government too.
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Hard to respect a Government that uses Riot Squads to intimidate, harass and beat citizens during lawful protests, using Tasers, batons and other Government legislation to punish citizens for little or no infractions without any trial. Here in Australia, the deep level of corruption is well known amongst those that matter with retired Royal Commissioners reporting on how entrenched and possibly unfixable it all is. The average citizen can just hope and pray the officer they run into is having A GOOD DAY! The sad fact is, the Police force has become a attitude police force, taking away dissent and anti establishment behaviour serving a Political Corporate Elite. The crooks rarely get caught and are often largely intertwined with Officialdom at the highest level. Jails are full of poor people and drug users, people who were used and abused by this intolerable system in the first place. The whole thing is disgusting, the end game for these Elitists is too have one sovereign World Army or Power that no other force can rise against - the police are just part of the whole thing - slowly enforcing unjust and corrupt legislation on it's fellow citizens. As a human being who believes that causing another human being suffering also creates suffering within myself, I find it highly disturbing how comfortable the average police person is with dehumanizing and perpetrating violent acts on unarmed non threatening civilians.
AMEN
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I'd find it hard to respect that type of government too.
Too bad that's what a big part of the US government is.
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Too bad that's what a big part of the US government is.
It's debatable that the US is to that level, I don't think they are, but that's my opinion. I do think the government is out of control in many aspects, but it's only because we have shown them we will let them. Our most potent tool against such a government, voting, is rarely used. I think we had less than a 20% turn out last week in some local elections.
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It's debatable that the US is to that level, I don't think they are, but that's my opinion. I do think the government is out of control in many aspects, but it's only because we have shown them we will let them. Our most potent tool against such a government, voting, is rarely used. I think we had less than a 20% turn out last week in some local elections.
We can debate, but you would be wrong.
You can't argue the facts:
Incarceration rate in the USA for federal and state prisons in 2007 was the highest in history of the country. It was 5.5 times greater than the sharp peak that occurred during the Great Depression at 137 per 100,000 in 1939.[36] But historically, the current US incarceration rate is still slightly lower than the record-high Soviet Union's levels before World War II when the USSR's population reached 168 million, and 1.2 to 1.5 million people were in the Gulag system's prison camps and colonies (i.e. about 800 people imprisoned per 100,000 residents, according to numbers from Anne Applebaum and Steven Rosefielde). The Soviet Union's incarceration rates from 1934 to 1953 were historically the world's highest for a modern age country, according to The Gulag Archipelago book by Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
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We can debate, but you would be wrong.
You can't argue the facts:
Incarceration rate in the USA for federal and state prisons in 2007 was the highest in history of the country. It was 5.5 times greater than the sharp peak that occurred during the Great Depression at 137 per 100,000 in 1939.[36] But historically, the current US incarceration rate is still slightly lower than the record-high Soviet Union's levels before World War II when the USSR's population reached 168 million, and 1.2 to 1.5 million people were in the Gulag system's prison camps and colonies (i.e. about 800 people imprisoned per 100,000 residents, according to numbers from Anne Applebaum and Steven Rosefielde). The Soviet Union's incarceration rates from 1934 to 1953 were historically the world's highest for a modern age country, according to The Gulag Archipelago book by Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
Those facts.. don't support the original statement.. So I'm not sure what you are trying to show
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Those facts.. don't support the original statement.. So I'm not sure what you are trying to show
Are you really trying to be dense?
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Are you really trying to be dense?
He is a cop - what do you expect?
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He is a cop - what do you expect?
Well, one thing I don't expect is a couple of you to be unbiased and actually approach the subject rationally. Lost that expectation awhile back. Talking about incarceration rates doesn't speak at all the the original picture painted by Kul. Sorry you can't see that.
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Well, one thing I don't expect is a couple of you to be unbiased and actually approach the subject rationally. Lost that expectation awhile back. Talking about incarceration rates doesn't speak at all the the original picture painted by Kul. Sorry you can't see that.
It absolutely does...
Only in the height of Stalin's evil USSR has their ever been an incarceration rate higher.
If you can't make the connection, then your ability to comprehend information is highly suspect.
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Hard to respect a Government that uses Riot Squads to intimidate, harass and beat citizens during lawful protests, using Tasers, batons and other Government legislation to punish citizens for little or no infractions without any trial. Here in Australia, the deep level of corruption is well known amongst those that matter with retired Royal Commissioners reporting on how entrenched and possibly unfixable it all is. The average citizen can just hope and pray the officer they run into is having A GOOD DAY! The sad fact is, the Police force has become a attitude police force, taking away dissent and anti establishment behaviour serving a Political Corporate Elite. The crooks rarely get caught and are often largely intertwined with Officialdom at the highest level. Jails are full of poor people and drug users, people who were used and abused by this intolerable system in the first place. The whole thing is disgusting, the end game for these Elitists is too have one sovereign World Army or Power that no other force can rise against - the police are just part of the whole thing - slowly enforcing unjust and corrupt legislation on it's fellow citizens. As a human being who believes that causing another human being suffering also creates suffering within myself, I find it highly disturbing how comfortable the average police person is with dehumanizing and perpetrating violent acts on unarmed non threatening civilians.
yeah.. incarceration rates.. ;)
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yeah.. incarceration rates.. ;)
What the fuck do I care if Kul didn't say "incarceration".... The fact of the matter is that the logical continuation of a Police state goes towards how many people are fucking locked up.
That's just the way it is.
So he didn't put in 3 words saying "Locking people up"? It doesn't change the fact that when you have any conversation regarding the over use of police... the abuse of the removal of liberty must be discussed. It's just the direction you have to take it to complete the discussion.
You don't just fucking stop in the middle.
Anonymous "cop" on the web does not in any way shape or form have a clue as to how logical thought processes occur apparently.
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A fine upstanding officer of the law right there.
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What the fuck do I care if Kul didn't say "incarceration".... The fact of the matter is that the logical continuation of a Police state goes towards how many people are fucking locked up.
That's just the way it is.
So he didn't put in 3 words saying "Locking people up"? It doesn't change the fact that when you have any conversation regarding the over use of police... the abuse of the removal of liberty must be discussed. It's just the direction you have to take it to complete the discussion.
You don't just fucking stop in the middle.
Anonymous "cop" on the web does not in any way shape or form have a clue as to how logical thought processes occur apparently.
Lets just agree to disagree on this. I ran out of ways to explain it any better.
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Gun in anus of peace
Hahahaha