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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
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8) You just figured this out ?
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Chris is a good dude.
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Half the size he once was.
But it must be said that drug use at the level of a Chris Cormier without question results in being left with much less than would have been the case had the individual never indulged.
I mean, the man built most of what he had with the massive aid of drugs and hormone "therapy". How can he be expected to mainatin much of anything when he no longer has that crutch in his training arsenal?
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Chris is a good dude.
I don't mean to disrespect him. I don't know him personally so I have no right to judge him as a man.
When I say all drugs, thats what accounted for his physique.
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looks like a janitor
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:)
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Is he the one on the left ?
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:)
Both are tier 1
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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=426798.0;attach=470671)
pathetic :-\
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is that photoshopped? melvin looks pretty insane in that pic
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Paul Looking Bigger then Chris
(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17557&stc=1&d=1297863489)
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Yeah, but at least he's not fat.
He's not competing anymore, so why should he risk his health? Same goes for Levrone. It's a smart move.
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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
Fucking fool! Course drugs make you bigger! What did you expect that he would stay 250lb ripped into his 50s? Have you ever trained? Do tyou know that how much you lift and eat also has an impact? If you stop eating training and shooting up you will shrink like fuck! He's no more "all drugs" than any other human being on earth, including Dorian or Ronnie, who are both a lot smaller now, and probably both still on drugs.
Same with Tom Prince, yes he's shrunk loads, but he stopped training and eating as well as shooting up, so yeah he looks normal now. Do you think there is actually any human on earth who can walk around with these magic genetics looking like Mr O "without drugs"? Fucking NO you fucking idiot!!
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is that photoshopped? melvin looks pretty insane in that pic
Not that I know of
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these kind of posts are the silliest crap.. chris hardly trains.. doesnt eat much and yes is off drugs.. so of course he is going to look normal.. if chris were to even train and eat well he would surprise ya.. look at his pics of him when he was a teenager before he even lifted.. that will show ya..
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Let's take it easy on the foul language guys.
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these kind of posts are the silliest crap.. chris hardly trains.. doesnt eat much and yes is off drugs.. so of course he is going to look normal.. if chris were to even train and eat well he would surprise ya.. look at his pics of him when he was a teenager before he even lifted.. that will show ya..
Why wouldn't he eat much or well!? To the plus, he's nicely maintaining his noggin size. Good genetics at play.
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these kind of posts are the silliest crap.. chris hardly trains.. doesnt eat much and yes is off drugs.. so of course he is going to look normal.. if chris were to even train and eat well he would surprise ya.. look at his pics of him when he was a teenager before he even lifted.. that will show ya..
Didn't realize "ya" was a word in the English language.
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Spent all his money on PS3 games and strip clubbing with Dorian Yates
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it's funny how when a pro retires two things can happen; he shrinks or he stays big.
if he shrinks, he was all drugs.
if he stays big he's an insecure fool that has to keep juicing.
they can't win either way.
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still looks to be 225 or 235. WHy all the hate?
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it's funny how when a pro retires two things can happen; he shrinks or he stays big.
if he shrinks, he was all drugs.
if he stays big he's an insecure fool that has to keep juicing.
they can't win either way.
good post.
People are way to critical of these guys.
What the hell do people expect? Anyone who has participated in this endeavor on any remotely serious level knows how important consistency with drugs, rest, food, and training are. When you stop those things completely, you become a normal person. Big surprise.
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it's funny how when a pro retires two things can happen; he shrinks or he stays big.
if he shrinks, he was all drugs.
if he stays big he's an insecure fool that has to keep juicing.
they can't win either way.
Ya but that ones that say shit like that have never competed and are skinny littlepunks or are fat fucks either way they are a bunch of bitches. 8)
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SWOLL??
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it's funny how when a pro retires two things can happen; he shrinks or he stays big.
if he shrinks, he was all drugs.
if he stays big he's an insecure fool that has to keep juicing.
they can't win either way.
You sound insecure. ;D
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You sound insecure. ;D
No he's right on the money.
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it's funny how when a pro retires two things can happen; he shrinks or he stays big.
if he shrinks, he was all drugs.
if he stays big he's an insecure fool that has to keep juicing.
they can't win either way.
True. I actually think they should shrink. What's the point of eating as much, working out as much and
taking the drugs in the quantities that they used to? Enjoy life at a lighter weight. Enjoy not breathing hard...enjoy the flexibility, enjoy not being big.
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chris has no need to be 300 pounds now, he is the top trainer at golds venice now has bodybuilders and physique mens class winners, he weighs around 230, that pic he has big ass shirt on, hes still big, any of you that come on here and talk shit about a legend have no respect at all, chris is a great man despite all hes been thru hes still doing well and could get up to 300 in a very short time, he is a great man and has put all the bs behind him and has found a new passion at helping up and coming bodybuilders, something none of the past legends ever do, HE IS A GREAT FRIEND AND GOOD MAN!
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No he's right on the money.
That 'whoosh' you heard was the irony/funny going straight over your head. No worries, tho, as hazbin has got a super sense of the absurd. ;D
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this happens with almost all professional athletes when tghey retire,i watch a lot of nfl football and all the announcers that are ex players,dont look to be in the shape they were in when they played the game,except fot maybe shannon sharpe,who really loves working out,no pro boxers are in the shape they were in when they were in the ring,hell leverone used to get this small in the offseason when he was competing,so whats the big deal?
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chris has no need to be 300 pounds now, he is the top trainer at golds venice now has bodybuilders and physique mens class winners, he weighs around 230, that pic he has big ass shirt on, hes still big, any of you that come on here and talk shit about a legend have no respect at all, chris is a great man despite all hes been thru hes still doing well and could get up to 300 in a very short time, he is a great man and has put all the bs behind him and has found a new passion at helping up and coming bodybuilders, something none of the past legends ever do, HE IS A GREAT FRIEND AND GOOD MAN!
Pot smoking recognized. ;D
/maybe get some 'great' doritos, or order some 'great' papa johns?
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It's pathetic seeing the juice heads come to the defense of Cormier's steroid abuse.
It's just like that crackhead I belittle on the street the other day.
All of the sudden 4 other crackheads come out of the woodwork and start lecturing me how it's okay to smoke crack because it makes them feel good, and how I wasn't cool for not smoking crack.
I didn't say anything; just pulled out a $20 bill, lite my stogie with it, and threw the burning bill on the ground. All 4 crack heads immediately jumped for it while I was off on my merry way.
GOD I LOVE OWNING SCUM!
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That 'whoosh' you heard was the irony/funny going straight over your head. No worries, tho, hazbin has got a super sense of the absurd. ;D
Note taken. Figured that was a regular getbig retard post. Next time the mighty dr chimps posts I will pay full attention. ;D
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Retired pros should go for the health look. It's ridiculous to stay on boatloads of drugs and force feed yourself into your 40's and 50's. Ever seen a 300 lb 50 year old that looked good? Pro bodybuilding is about cheating your health for a short period of time and then getting out before permanent damage is done.
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Half the size he once was.
But it must be said that drug use at the level of a Chris Cormier without question results in being left with much less than would have been the case had the individual never indulged.
I mean, the man built most of what he had with the massive aid of drugs and hormone "therapy". How can he be expected to mainatin much of anything when he no longer has that crutch in his training arsenal?
You used to write for MuscleMag right? Did you ever get a glimpse into the true cycles of these guys? One see some crazy fucking dosages being claimed on the internet, but it's probably all hokum. Do you know anything about that? Do you know who the heaviest user was amongst the guys in the 90's?
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this happens with almost all professional athletes when tghey retire,i watch a lot of nfl football and all the announcers that are ex players,dont look to be in the shape they were in when they played the game,except fot maybe shannon sharpe,who really loves working out,no pro boxers are in the shape they were in when they were in the ring,hell leverone used to get this small in the offseason when he was competing,so whats the big deal?
No more drugs = small
The drugs have ruined these scumbags natural testosterone production, so they're even less of a man when they come off the steroids. LOL!!!
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It's pathetic seeing the juice heads come to the defense of Cormier's steroid abuse.
It's just like that crackhead I belittle on the street the other day.
All of the sudden 4 other crackheads come out of the woodwork and start lecturing me how it's okay to smoke crack because it makes them feel good, and how I wasn't cool for not smoking crack.
I didn't say anything; just pulled out a $20 bill, lite my stogie with it, and threw the burning bill on the ground. All 4 crack heads immediately jumped for it while I was off on my merry way.
GOD I LOVE OWNING SCUM!
You know nothing of bodybuilding,
hope this helps
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women on PEDs always look like horny little monsters, like a danger to society
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these kind of posts are the silliest crap.. chris hardly trains.. doesnt eat much and yes is off drugs.. so of course he is going to look normal..
This would be accepted if the same idiots that are now being pictured hadn't talked and spoken with so much bravado that they were over 200lbs prior to using. Tom Prince still maintains that he was 242lbs (that number usually fluctuates a few lbs up/down with each time he told the story) before he touched any drugs. Yet now he looks half of that weight and his onstage weight was no more than 15-20lbs heavier...perhaps that is why he says drugs are only the finishing touch; they only added a couple pounds to him! ::)
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the guy still looks like he has one helluva blessed structure. He might not be huge, or even big, anymore, but he's a walking testament to genetics.
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It's pathetic seeing the juice heads come to the defense of Cormier's steroid abuse.
It's just like that crackhead I belittle on the street the other day.
All of the sudden 4 other crackheads come out of the woodwork and start lecturing me how it's okay to smoke crack because it makes them feel good, and how I wasn't cool for not smoking crack.
I didn't say anything; just pulled out a $20 bill, lite my stogie with it, and threw the burning bill on the ground. All 4 crack heads immediately jumped for it while I was off on my merry way.
GOD I LOVE OWNING SCUM!
Let's see a picture of your physique bitch, I bet everyone here would be laughing at you, you are the dumbest person on getbig and it's pretty hard to be dumber then Sevestes but you managed. Do you expect an Olympic sprinter to do a 10 sec hundred meters 10 years after he retires? do you expect a basketball player to play the same way 10 years after he retires? Name 1 field where the results would be equal 10 years later, you can't you dumbass so why expect Chris to be same after 10 year, jeeeeeeeeez ???mind boggling how dumb this guy is.
Post a pic bitch
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it's funny how when a pro retires two things can happen; he shrinks or he stays big.
if he shrinks, he was all drugs.
if he stays big he's an insecure fool that has to keep juicing.
they can't win either way.
so if they can't win either way, then maybe taking drugs is for losers? :-\
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it's funny how when a pro retires two things can happen; he shrinks or he stays big.
if he shrinks, he was all drugs.
if he stays big he's an insecure fool that has to keep juicing.
they can't win either way.
This!
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You know nothing of bodybuilding,
hope this helps
I would hope so as well, but nothing can help this guy.
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Looks like a guy who's been told by doctors not to eat over 100grams of protein a day because of ailing kidneys. I know a couple of guys in that boat.
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so if they can't win either way, then maybe taking drugs is for losers? :-\
even drug free athletes lose their muscle when they stop training.
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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
so back in the day you thought he was natural?
::) ::)
you JUST learned he used....STEROIDS?
::) ::)
if your on some "anti-drug" campaign
why post on a bodybuilding board, instead lean back and enjoy a rum and Cyanide spritzer
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women on PEDs always look like horny little monsters, like a danger to society
the new generation of 20 somethings gettin juiced up!
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There is a lot more that is sad and pathetic about Cormier besides the fact that he isn't as big as he once was. ::)
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The drugs have ruined these scumbags natural testosterone production, so they're even less of a man when they come off the steroids. LOL!!!
It appears that someone was absent from the majority of their endocrinology classes.
I guarantee you Chris' free testosterone levels are exactly where they should be for any normal 50 year old man.
The reasons he weighs 220 instead of 275 are:
He no longer takes 5 grams of gear each week.
He no longer eats 4,000 calories every single day.
He no longer pushes heavy iron 6 days per week.
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He appears to be on the Purple Drank and Jolly Ranchers Diet.
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Drugs are merely the finishing touch!!!
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God forbid people actually grow old and slim down hahahaha
I forgot that getbiggers are all born with abs @ 220lbs 4%bf and maintain it till their last breath.
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He appears to be on the Purple Drank and Jolly Ranchers Diet.
LOL. ;D Chris Washburn approved.
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God forbid people actually grow old and slim down hahahaha
I forgot that getbiggers are all born with abs @ 220lbs 4%bf and maintain it till their last breath.
you forgot 11 inch poonie beater
CEO/Boss Status
2 luxury cars in the garage
a plush condo on the coast and a getaway villa in venice
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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
"Looks like the air was let out"!!! :-X
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it's funny how when a pro retires two things can happen; he shrinks or he stays big.
if he shrinks, he was all drugs.
if he stays big he's an insecure fool that has to keep juicing.
they can't win either way.
yes many people here are harsh towards bodybuilder retires.
But this is how I look at it.
Ronald Coleman - Pathetic drug abuser still injecting and his body is falling apart. Horrible structure now, no shoulders, all arms, massive gut. Decomposing.
Dorian "The GOAT" Yates - Healthy, happy, and continues to train hard as hell to this day. Likes to party but still trains like a boss.
Chris Cormier - Parties and doesn't give a crap about training anymore. 90% of retired bodybuilders are like this.
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It appears that someone was absent from the majority of their endocrinology classes.
I guarantee you Chris' free testosterone levels are exactly where they should be for any normal 50 year old man.
The reasons he weighs 220 instead of 275 are:
He no longer takes 5 grams of gear each week.
He no longer eats 4,000 calories every single day.
He no longer pushes heavy iron 6 days per week.
You know more than myself on the subject of steroids/test levels, though I've been lead to believe that prolonged steroid abuse sends signals to your brain that you have sufficient test levels, therefore it cuts off your natural production because of the abundant supply of synthetic test in your body. When you go off its hard to get he body to start producing naturally again,
I believe Flex Wheeler recently said something to this effect.
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that canon ball forehead is just disgusting
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Narcotics.
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Chris is a good guy and looks quite healthy, he is doing well with his clients and has a lot to give. Why hate on Chris, don't forget in his day he was one of the very best.
(http://www.dohertysgym.com/images/fbfiles/images/IMG_3327.jpg)
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Chris is a good guy and looks quite healthy, he is doing well with his clients and has a lot to give. Why hate on Chris, don't forget in his day he was one of the very best. a scumbag and a complete piece of garbage.
(http://www.dohertysgym.com/images/fbfiles/images/IMG_3327.jpg)
fixed
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It appears that someone was absent from the majority of their endocrinology classes.
I guarantee you Chris' free testosterone levels are exactly where they should be for any normal 50 year old man.
The reasons he weighs 220 instead of 275 are:
He no longer takes 5 grams of gear each week.
He no longer eats 4,000 calories every single day.
He no longer pushes heavy iron 6 days per week.
You're aging him quite a bit, he's only 44.
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Fucking fool! Course drugs make you bigger! What did you expect that he would stay 250lb ripped into his 50s? Have you ever trained? Do tyou know that how much you lift and eat also has an impact? If you stop eating training and shooting up you will shrink like fuck! He's no more "all drugs" than any other human being on earth, including Dorian or Ronnie, who are both a lot smaller now, and probably both still on drugs.
Same with Tom Prince, yes he's shrunk loads, but he stopped training and eating as well as shooting up, so yeah he looks normal now. Do you think there is actually any human on earth who can walk around with these magic genetics looking like Mr O "without drugs"? Fucking NO you fucking idiot!!
Yes they all stopped training. ::)
Do you think that people as ego driven as bodybuilders would stop training if they could maintain half of what they were?
They all look like shit, that is the problem, not that they are not 300lb with abs anymore.
I always liked Chris he comes across as a good guy and he looks better than most x pros, wide shoulders, lean but he doesn't look like an impressive 220lb.
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And then you have Alq Gurley who looks like he his 30 yrs old.
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Looks like he is on the Dave Palumbo, Tom Prince and Derek Anthony Diet.
High dose anti-retrovirals, Extremely low protein diets and Hemodialysis sessions....
LIVIN THE DREAM!!!!
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Well id imagine anyone who seriously trained hard for say close to 30 years is gona say to hell with that at some point! I know i will probably say goodbye to having a lean muscular physique one day and not really give a damn! Like most people we do it to look good for ladies or self confidence etc ! Why would you bother if your happily married with kids or have a job that doesnt really permit training as hard as your single days? Maybe everyone on this forum is 20yr olds livin the dream.It wont always be like that my friends, and i say this still in my 20s :)....Or maybe its just the old one where people enjoy seeing someone better than them crash and burn ;D
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Let's take it easy on the foul language guys.
fuck off you fucking twink.
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Looks to be a very young 44 years old.
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You're aging him quite a bit, he's only 44.
Good catch. My mistake.
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Got to give Cormier some props, older but still has a good body and holding his own. What's that old saying, "Better to be a has been, than a never was".
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:)
any pic of Melvin "ass soft as a baby" Anthony lately?
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You know more than myself on the subject of steroids/test levels, though I've been lead to believe that prolonged steroid abuse sends signals to your brain that you have sufficient test levels, therefore it cuts off your natural production because of the abundant supply of synthetic test in your body. When you go off its hard to get he body to start producing naturally again,
I believe Flex Wheeler recently said something to this effect.
If you detest steroid users so much, why do you pay attention to what they do or say? Why would anything Flex Wheeler say matter to you?
You're clueless. You're like a bible-thumping christian.
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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
Looks like he has a good physique. He just isn't bloated with the affects of and overload of steroids. Bet he is much healthier today than he was when he was so huge.
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naturals look like shit both when training and when not training. if a natural stops training for 2 weeks it looks like he never stepped a foot in the gym.
at least chris looked good at some point
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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
So your favorite BB back in the day was a pro and on the other hand you're against the use of gear? ::)
Here's an explanation about you, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder
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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
looks great actually, very pronounced V taper, thick chest, wide shoulders, narrow waist. looks very very good in faCT.
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naturals look like shit both when training and when not training. if a natural stops training for 2 weeks it looks like he never stepped a foot in the gym.
at least chris looked good at some point
Seen naturals that destroy the majority of this board, but yes it is a retarded way to train.
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hold on, he looks lean and healthy.
why not run your dumbass mouth once you come up with a shitless pic, thread starter mongol?
will not happen...
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These kind of threads always kill me........Arnold looks like shit now,look how terrible Chris looks,Ronnie looks smaller,Yates looks tiny,Shawn Ray gained a bit of fat,Dillet looks soft,etc. etc. etc.
Aging,no drugs,no training,no mega food intake,competitive bodybuilding career over and done with, = normal looking person.
HTH
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LOL. ;D Chris Washburn approved.
Washburn opened a restaurant in Hickory. Next time thru i want to check it out.
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He appears to be on the Purple Drank and Jolly Ranchers Diet.
lolz
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Steroids = fake physique
Yep.
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Am I attacking Chris, or simply making the statement that everything he achieved was mostly due in part to drugs?
If Chris trained completely natural how big could he get while at 6% bodyfat?
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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
they are all ALL DRUGS...
moron
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fuck off you fucking twink.
Took 3 pages
Wondering when a proper getbig observation would come! ;D
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I personally expect CC to be at least 250lbs at 4% year round
Its irrelevant that he's had multiple injuries, personal probs, 44 and retired from bbing
That way I can sleep better at night
I'm sick and tired of excuses, nowdays they have portable dyalisis machines, so surely prince and flex can also compete with their machines onstage with them
Ronnie too, I don't care if he's pushing 50, nothing to prove and won 8 mr o's in a row, I expect him to be 300lbs 4% year round, and fix his tri, lat and whatever else
I demand this
Just like maradonna , cruyff, and pele should be still playing top level football
carl lewis should be in the usa olympic team breaking records
Alain prost should still be driving F1
And 70s pornstars should still be doing anal and facials on film
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naturals look like shit both when training and when not training. if a natural stops training for 2 weeks it looks like he never stepped a foot in the gym.
at least chris looked good at some point
False.
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I personally expect CC to be at least 250lbs at 4% year round
Its irrelevant that he's had multiple injuries, personal probs, 44 and retired from bbing
That way I can sleep better at night
I'm sick and tired of excuses, nowdays they have portable dyalisis machines, so surely prince and flex can also compete with their machines onstage with them
Ronnie too, I don't care if he's pushing 50, nothing to prove and won 8 mr o's in a row, I expect him to be 300lbs 4% year round, and fix his tri, lat and whatever else
I demand this
Just like maradonna , cruyff, and pele should be still playing top level football
carl lewis should be in the usa olympic team breaking records
Alain prost should still be driving F1
And 70s pornstars should still be doing anal and facials on film
;D
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chris shouldve never came off and destroyed his health and then everyone would be satisfied ::). man i hate chris cause he wants to be healthy and live longer, ill never forgive him
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Man he was one of my favorite bodybuilders back in the day.
Now it's evident he was ALL DRUGS.
Steroids = fake physique
So what do you think, a natural that stops training and eating right will never lose the muscle? (That they didn't have in the first place anyways...)
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False.
Yep.
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So what do you think, a natural that stops training and eating right will never lose the muscle? (That they didn't have in the first place anyways...)
So the excuse for the loss of any size is that they've stopped training all together and decided to eat like shit all of the sudden?
I think the truth is that they've used testosterone for so long that when they go off their body can't produce it naturally anymore, or at very low levels. They probably train and eat right like any natural lifter should, but the steroids have wreaked havoc on their bodies.
Building muscle with steroids is TEMPORARY. You'll only maintain that muscle on steroids, and if you decide to go off you're guaranteed to be small because your natural testosterone production doesn't exist anymore.
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Yep.
x2
No strength loss either.
I've been juggling school, work, and lifting.
Had to take a couple weeks off before.
Nothing changed.
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So the excuse for the loss of any size is that they've stopped training all together and decided to eat like shit all of the sudden?
I think the truth is that they've used testosterone for so long that when they go off their body can't produce it naturally anymore, or at very low levels. They probably train and eat right like any natural lifter should, but the steroids have wreaked havoc on their bodies.
Building muscle with steroids is TEMPORARY. You'll only maintain that muscle on steroids, and if you decide to go off you're guaranteed to be small because your natural testosterone production doesn't exist anymore.
Another groundbreaking post ::)
Stop wasting our time and your own, and do something productive instead.
You have nothing to contribute, even your "jokes" suck.
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Another groundbreaking post ::)
Stop wasting our time and your own, and do something productive instead.
You have nothing to contribute, even your "jokes" suck.
Yup, this guy is a complete tool.
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thats because you havent got neither strenght nor muscle worth writing home about.
look, i am off steroids since 6 months and i have a picture, i dont even eat anywhere near clean and i bet im still bigger and leaner than you at your best.
ill post the pic if you post yours, you homo.
my test is as low as it can get, but its there, and i know im bigger than you still, if youre a lifetime natty or been off since say 6months.
and im nowhere near a pro, never was, the pros shrink because they dont care, they stop training and eating, ofc theyll look small.
btw, cormier doesnt even look small there, probably bigger than most here still and lean and superior structure.compare to his active time, yes, small.compared to you, big.
even levrone in that video isnt looking all that bad, youve picked the worst possible stil shot, to "prove" your point.
now show a pic of what you have achieved naturaly,lmfao, i bet everyone is curious to see whos behind those big words of yours.
If you think Levrone looks good there and you must look like shit. No offense.
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you're on
i'll regret this
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you're on
i'll regret this
Bro do you even workout, fuck I looked bigger in grade 9, lmao, this is the fucken big mouth, what are you a runner or a swimmer, hahahhahahahaha
Toothpick arms, flat chess, a little abs ( I will give you that one) Now do you get why people juice cause a physique like yours is pathetic
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Bro that is way bigger then hammer, way bigger. being natural and liking bodybuilding don't go together, if he wasn't on getbig I wouldn't make fun of his physique
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Galeniko takes this one. Even with a tank on, you can tell he's in shape.
I do think a natural can do more than most think is possible here. Guys are just not willing to take the time. A good solid decade to look impressive in most cases is what it takes. We got guys gassing after 6 months as a standard now.
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Galeniko takes this one. Even with a tank on, you can tell he's in shape.
I do think a natural can do more than most think is possible here. Guys are just not willing to take the time. A good solid decade to look impressive in most cases is what it takes. We got guys gassing after 6 months as a standard now.
Even if what you say is true, if you want get big being natural is dumb, if that's your goal, who the hell wants to pay for the same real estate 10 times?
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So the excuse for the loss of any size is that they've stopped training all together and decided to eat like shit all of the sudden?
I think the truth is that they've used testosterone for so long that when they go off their body can't produce it naturally anymore, or at very low levels. They probably train and eat right like any natural lifter should, but the steroids have wreaked havoc on their bodies.
Building muscle with steroids is TEMPORARY. You'll only maintain that muscle on steroids, and if you decide to go off you're guaranteed to be small because your natural testosterone production doesn't exist anymore.
ALL building muscles is temporarily, retard.
With steroids, you just see it more because there was way more muscle there before.
Cormier looks better than most naturals now.
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yes, the whole life is just a temporary ride.
i find it funn when nattys say they dont lose size after being off training for x amount of time.lol.thats because they didnt have size in the first place,
you could pick a lean cyclist and put him on couple weeks diet and give him tan and hed look kind of ok on stage in a natural show.maybe hed even place well.
Lmao, so true 8)
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yes, the whole life is just a temporary ride.
i find it funn when nattys say they dont lose size after being off training for x amount of time.lol.thats because they didnt have size in the first place,
you could pick a lean cyclist and put him on couple weeks diet and give him tan and hed look kind of ok on stage in a natural show.maybe hed even place well.
Spot on.
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thanks, but keep in mind my body is a deflated former self, and still deflating.
albeit very slowly.i dont know if ive hit the plateau where it doesnt get any "worse".i know by staying lean, the downfall wont look as dramatic, so i basically eat semi clean and semi what i want,i just wait before any next meal until im really hungry.
my natural test levels are on the rise(im not having any hrt) after being as low as they can get, the pumps are quite suprisingly hefty and i even got bit stronger again recently.
i dont know if 6 months off is enough to hit rock bottom or if it might take longer, seeing as how test e is a very long ester.
but yeah, im happy with my current form, 6pack is there, veins on legs, all good.
i have couple years of totally natural training "under my belt", didnt even know about steroids until 1 yearafter starting to work out, then started to take some another half year later, with loong on periods but also long off periods.lol sometimes even off training altogether.
now i know if id have stayed lifetime natty, i wouldnt even look like in the pic above, not even in 10 years.
i know because ive tried, apart from some weak dbol popping in the first couple years i didnt use anything, i was maxed out no question, at a much smaller size then in the above pic.
yeah the youngsters jump straight on the gear sometimes earlier than 6 months into training and then wonder why fuck all happens, and people like gh15 make ppl believe you can do that and look great, but thats not how it works.
some basic 1 year of natty work as foundation is sensible before shooting up imo.
but it feels good to tell people im kinda natty now ;D
I agree with all except bold. 1 year in my mind is nothing. Newbie gains are still to be had...
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I'd kick any bodybuilder's ass easy. Pm for info on throwing hands
814 upright rows understood ...BDB dont fuck around with twinks.
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galieniko clean looks ok,,,good vascularity .good size who cares if it was built mostly drugged,still step ahead of true natural.
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yes, the whole life is just a temporary ride.
i find it funn when nattys say they dont lose size after being off training for x amount of time.lol.thats because they didnt have size in the first place,
you could pick a lean cyclist and put him on couple weeks diet and give him tan and hed look kind of ok on stage in a natural show.maybe hed even place well.
So it's X amount of time now? I thought we were talking about two weeks.
You don't lose size and strength in two weeks. That's ridiculous.
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chris has no need to be 300 pounds now, he is the top trainer at golds venice now has bodybuilders and physique mens class winners, he weighs around 230, that pic he has big ass shirt on, hes still big, any of you that come on here and talk shit about a legend have no respect at all, chris is a great man despite all hes been thru hes still doing well and could get up to 300 in a very short time, he is a great man and has put all the bs behind him and has found a new passion at helping up and coming bodybuilders, something none of the past legends ever do, HE IS A GREAT FRIEND AND GOOD MAN!
lol.... ::)
and what does he "teaches" his "clients" now? How to inject steroids?
Cause that must be the only thing that moron knows put aside lifting weights ( while being on steroids ).
Lots of butthurt shallow, insecure, small dicked steroid users in this thread who cant accept they ll look juste like everyone else too, once their bodies wont be able to sustain the drug abuse. Yeah, you re completely vain from head to toe.
Newsflash, nobody respects you for your addiction and insecurity, everyone's laughing at you behind your back.
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lol.... ::)
and what does he "teaches" his "clients" now? How to inject steroids?
Cause that must be the only thing that moron knows put aside lifting weights ( while being on steroids ).
Lots of butthurt shallow, insecure, small dicked steroid users in this thread who cant accept they ll look juste like everyone else too, once their bodies wont be able to sustain the drug abuse. Yeah, you re completely vain from head to toe.
Newsflash, nobody respects you for your addiction and insecurity, everyone's laughing at you behind your back.
Religion of positivity.
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99% of you clowns don't have a fuckin' clue!!! all you know is what you fuckin' read off forums/message boards...while others of us where THERE...all the time! and KNOW the real story!!!! Fuckin' clowns!!! ::)
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99% of you clowns don't have a fuckin' clue!!! all you know is what you fuckin' read off forums/message boards...while others of us where THERE...all the time! and KNOW the real story!!!! Fuckin' clowns!!! ::)
(http://www.spankthellama.com/hashbrowns/main.php/d/13453-1/interdasting+retard+reaction.jpg)
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lol.... ::)
and what does he "teaches" his "clients" now? How to inject steroids?
Cause that must be the only thing that moron knows put aside lifting weights ( while being on steroids ).
Lots of butthurt shallow, insecure, small dicked steroid users in this thread who cant accept they ll look juste like everyone else too, once their bodies wont be able to sustain the drug abuse. Yeah, you re completely vain from head to toe.
Newsflash, nobody respects you for your addiction and insecurity, everyone's laughing at you behind your back.
Blah, blah, blah, blah...
Can never get past the 2nd sentence in this guys posts
Has he ever written a positive remark or anything smaller than a thesis ?
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Blah, blah, blah, blah...
Can never get past the 2nd sentence in this guys posts
Has he ever written a positive remark or anything smaller than a thesis ?
Well he looks like shit, got abused by his dad and probably has a small dick, so what do you expect?
For me, I know that the muscles build on steroids will go away some day, and that is ok.
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Well he looks like shit, got abused by his dad and probably has a small dick, so what do you expect?
For me, I know that the muscles build on steroids will go away some day, and that is ok.
Narcotics and a bad childhood will fuck you up.
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Narcotics and a bad childhood will fuck you up.
Yes, too sad.
Well if coming on a BB forum and hating on steroids and steroid users makes him a happier person, why not?
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Yes, too sad.
Well if coming on a BB forum and hating on steroids and steroid users makes him a happier person, why not?
Good point.
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thanks, btw, 3 of those last 6 clean months ive spent in prison, went cold turkey to prison and got the worst imagineable food there and no access to gym, i still lifted stuff there, for example the skinniest inmates for shoulderpresses and the fatter ones for squats, no joking ;D
and the losses werent bad even under these circumstances.
Did you do the time inside in switzerland?
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lol.... ::)
and what does he "teaches" his "clients" now? How to inject steroids?
Cause that must be the only thing that moron knows put aside lifting weights ( while being on steroids ).
Lots of butthurt shallow, insecure, small dicked steroid users in this thread who cant accept they ll look juste like everyone else too, once their bodies wont be able to sustain the drug abuse. Yeah, you re completely vain from head to toe.
Newsflash, nobody respects you for your addiction and insecurity, everyone's laughing at you behind your back.
Newsflash, Ubberdouche, nobody respects you for your amatuerish psyhco-babble, everbody is laughing at you. period.
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No strength loss either.
I've been juggling school, work, and lifting.
Had to take a couple weeks off before.
Nothing changed.
Exactly.
I've been unable to work out while injured from various accidents ( car accident, work injury etc ) and lost fuck all over a month or 2 layoff. I also followed Mentzer's HI 2 routine to the letter in the 90's ( meaning 1 workout per week for 1 working set to failure ) and still gained strength and maintained or gained muscle mass. I only quit following that routine as I found it hard on my joints.
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uh ok, but how lean have you been before and after?
I'm always lean or relatively lean. Even with 2 broken ribs and an arm in a sling, I would still do cardio and eat right.
I'm not anti drug myself, but I definitely don't see the point in doing something which could potentially harm ones' health for nothing other than vanity, occupational advancements aside. To each his own.
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lol.... ::)
and what does he "teaches" his "clients" now? How to inject steroids?
Cause that must be the only thing that moron knows put aside lifting weights ( while being on steroids ).
Lots of butthurt shallow, insecure, small dicked steroid users in this thread who cant accept they ll look juste like everyone else too, once their bodies wont be able to sustain the drug abuse. Yeah, you re completely vain from head to toe.
Newsflash, nobody respects you for your addiction and insecurity, everyone's laughing at you behind your back.
Read carefully you moron: Use of steroids is one of the ways to "enhance" your own biology to become "more effective". By "more effective" - I mean - being "above" other human beings in certain biological traits, which means, in this case, increased fitness (and domination, being able to stand out, etc.. That's very important in the nature, go read at least few other books aside "the holly book") and so - increased odds of attracting an opposite sex (if not homo) thus - procreating and seeding your genes (you like talking about sustainemnt of life, tho' due to your stupidness - you miss the obvious, as usualy). It's a fact that bb'ers get like 5times more poon than a regular person (if not extremly shy or with communication issues).
Even if what he teaches his clients is how to inject stuff - he at least knows what is he doing and if there's a DEMAND - what's your fukkin' business? o.O
Aside that - it can be lots of fun (and you are NO fuckin ONE to decide whether it is or not, for other people I mean). Talkin' about respect - it's usualy a vice versa situation, if a person who uses steroids is a sane and decent person - he will get one MORE respect, not LESS (and part of it happens on a biological/subconscious level, as nother human being recognizes the "superiority" of the biology of a given person). And if anyone laughs behind a back, guess what - WHO THE FUCK CARES??
Get a fukkin' life you damn bible thumping nutcase.
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BOOOOOOOOM!!!
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Dude looks great.
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I am sure he is doing fine financially. What happened to the male escort business out of Gold's? :o
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Yes, too sad.
Well if coming on a BB forum and hating on everything in the fuckin entirety of existence makes him a happier person, why not?
Fixed
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Fixed
Haahaha, well executed. ;D ;D