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What's life to you? Make as much money as you can to be rich, have lots of power, big house, nice broads to get laid with, expensive cars, go on lots of vacations, have your own company/business running OR get the highest level of education, work for somebody, make enough money to pay bills and save some on layaway, drive a nice car, have a decent size house, have a good wife, etc. OR do you want fame/Celebrity status etc, is there a combination of these lifestyles inbetween perhaps?
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You cannoy enjoy anything without good health.
Money is pretty far down my list. I now have a good job and career but as long as I am never poor and struggling i will alwyas be content.
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Crisco kid getting all greasy and emotional in this thread.
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Interesting question.
I think the biggest mistake people make is putting money first. In all actualit, money equals power, and that's why it's the mistake.
Seek love and knowledge.
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Happy, healthy family, and a job I dont hate.
Pretty much it.
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In a word - accomplishment.
The best quote I've ever heard on happiness is that it's the feeling that's something has been overcome.
That's why it can never last. If you could rest on some accomplishment, you wouldn't seek out others.
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I don`t have a lot of money but I get to wake up each day and pretty much decide what I want to do. It took a long time and a lot of hard work to get to this point but its pretty much what I have always wanted.
Don`t get me wrong a huge pile of cash would be cool as long as I don`t have to give up what I already have.
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Money is overrated IMHO. I just want to make enough to provide for my family, and be able to go do things as we have the time or desire, vacation, work on my hot rod.
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Money is overrated IMHO. I just want to make enough to provide for my family, and be able to go do things as we have the time or desire, vacation, work on my hot rod.
What if money got you endless nights with this ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=428107.0;attach=472620;image)
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You cannoy enjoy anything without good health.
Money is pretty far down my list. I now have a good job and career but as long as I am never poor and struggling i will alwyas be content.
Mom doesn't make you pay any bills I see
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In a word - accomplishment.
The best quote I've ever heard on happiness is that it's the feeling that's something has been overcome.
That's why it can never last. If you could rest on some accomplishment, you wouldn't seek out others.
this is profound wisdom my friend....good job...see the stuff you can come up with when you are not fighting with 3333 all the time???
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Money is overrated IMHO. I just want to make enough to provide for my family, and be able to go do things as we have the time or desire, vacation, work on my hot rod.
This is true..people often lose track of whats important...health and family are always #1 and 1a
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You cannoy enjoy anything without good health
Good point. The sad thing is, you only learn about the value of good health when it's gone. Most people (especially young) take it for granted.
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What if money got you endless nights with this ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=428107.0;attach=472620;image)
wow....that would be heaven on earth.....you just motivated me to work towards that ;)
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Mom doesn't make you pay any bills I see
I have 2 jobs. 1 fulltime and I also still work as a door supervisor as it is extra cash i can save and also because I am good at it and like it.
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What's life to you? Make as much money as you can to be rich, have lots of power, big house, nice broads to get laid with, expensive cars, go on lots of vacations, have your own company/business running OR get the highest level of education, work for somebody, make enough money to pay bills and save some on layaway, drive a nice car, have a decent size house, have a good wife, etc. OR do you want fame/Celebrity status etc, is there a combination of these lifestyles inbetween perhaps?
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I pull a few from both options. Seriously. Money may not make you happy, but lack of it sure can cause problems. Do what's right for you, and as long as it doesn't encroach too much on somebody else, do it. You only get one shot at your turn on this planet.
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Good point. The sad thing is, you only learn about the value of good health when it's gone. Most people (especially young) take it for granted.
Agreed. I have watched my dad get older and it is sad. He is only 65 and great for his age.
However, comparing him to the man he was 10 years ago is crazy. If you get old as long as your mind is sound you are rich!
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Agreed. I have watched my dad get older and it is sad. He is only 65 and great for his age.
However, comparing him to the man he was 10 years ago is crazy. If you get old as long as your mind is sound you are rich!
Dude, going through this same shit with my dad. He's 60 and looks great, but now talks about "getting older" and his "limitations". I'm like, when did you go from being my dad to being my granddad? I guess we all age.
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Life, for me, is music, training and staying independent of all the sheep who run about with their heads falling off.
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Happiness and health.
I have the latter, but am still working towards the former.
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I value good food, being fit and healthy, going outdoors, music, movies, art, being able to live as I want. I like freedom, to do wack shit, like following the johhnyfailcan principles. I see no value with money other than just being average with it.
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conquering your enemies. seeing them driven before you. and hearing the lamentation of the women.
This is my backup plan for happiness, if my primary plan fails.
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Health, Family...but wealth sure helps a LOT
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Just keep trying to do the next right thing,and be the best person you can be......... even if you fall short at times.
Oh yeah,get as much quality vagina as possible as often as possible.
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In a word - accomplishment.
The best quote I've ever heard on happiness is that it's the feeling that's something has been overcome.
That's why it can never last. If you could rest on some accomplishment, you wouldn't seek out others.
Define "accomplishment". Different meanings for different people.
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Life to me is giving back to others.
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Hapiness = best odds of survival than your neighbor/colleagues/others... the more you dominate, the happier you are. Not being able to dominate means you have lower odds of survival compared to the competition = frustration, anger. You can dominate being smart, being rich, being strong, being wise... But all of this evaporates over time as you get older. If you ve been kind to your offsprings, they ll take care of you, and when you wont have anymore power over them they ll love you the way you loved them. As a result you take care of others because you care about the way they ll care of you when you wont be in position of dominating them anymore. We first only care about ourselves as kids and teenagers, then we re told to contribute to society, then for a few, we get to enjoy being part of the society, and utlimately we replicate our genes and then focus on protecting them and teaching them how to outperform, outsmart, the competition. Being successful at doing so, makes us happy. Being unsuccessful makes us unhappy. I wont even talk about the growing number of people in occident who dont even want an offsprings because they come from dysfcunctional families ridden with sins and trahisons. On the other end you have billions of third world uneducate, ignorant people who outbreed westerners. Westerners are smart, but depressed and dont reproduce.
You can either dominate being benevolent, or being evil. Both paths will get you different results. At some point you have to use your strenght to defend life. Using strenght to destroy life is violence.
Someone 's else misfortune makes you happy. Your own misfortune might make them happy, too. Sometimes you have to kill to survive. You cant help everyone, and you arent responsible for everyone else bad actions. You re forced to take sides every day. Every life form only exists to contribute. If you cant contribute, you re useless, and have no meaning.
Everyone thinks he's right and the other is wrong. As a result billions of individuals fight against each others , just like every animal and plant fight against others animals and plants. Animals arent conscious of existing. Humans, do. They re animal who are conscious of being animals. As a result, they re not entirely animals anymore, they re something else... Humans. We all know what is the next level, step. Being an eternal, good doing, constantly happy life form...
In the end only those who follow God's path will find hapiness, those who want to become like him.
Life is a test, a challenge, a constant free for all, struggle for survival. Every single life form has no other purpose but to outlive other life forms at all costs, and all we do, just like animals and plants, is to try to find the best way to outpower, outsmart the competition. Life is tough, because to get some rest, you first need to struggle.
People who look and think alike stick together and can cooperate. You can make good or bad things of your existence. We all hope that one day, we ll know eternal, constant bliss forever. But until then, it's everyone for himself. People who share the same core beliefs will unite together against those who have different core beliefs. Good people are preparing the kingdom of God on earth.
Life has no other purpose but to insure it's own replication, survival.
We all hope for eternal bliss. For betterment. For perfection. But it is not possible on earth, as human beings to know this. Is there something different, above it all? Is this hope a trick of evolution, of our thought process to keep us alive?
Our only freedom, is to do good or evil.
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Dude, going through this same shit with my dad. He's 60 and looks great, but now talks about "getting older" and his "limitations". I'm like, when did you go from being my dad to being my granddad? I guess we all age.
I am 26 and its sad to see but happens to us all.
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I have 2 jobs. 1 fulltime and I also still work as a door supervisor as it is extra cash i can save and also because I am good at it and like it.
what exactly is a door supervisor???
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Just keep trying to do the next right thing,and be the best person you can be......... even if you fall short at times.
Oh yeah,get as much quality vagina as possible as often as possible.
this I do try to do...vagina and the pursuit of it keeps you young
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Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.
They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
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Hapiness = best odds of survival than your neighbor/colleagues/others... the more you dominate, the happier you are. Not being able to dominate means you have lower odds of survival compared to the competition = frustration, anger. You can dominate being smart, being rich, being strong, being wise... But all of this evaporates over time as you get older. If you ve been kind to your offsprings, they ll take care of you, and when you wont have anymore power over them they ll love you the way you loved them. As a result you take care of others because you care about the way they ll care of you when you wont be in position of dominating them anymore. We first only care about ourselves as kids and teenagers, then we re told to contribute to society, then for a few, we get to enjoy being part of the society, and utlimately we replicate our genes and then focus on protecting them and teaching them how to outperform, outsmart, the competition. Being successful at doing so, makes us happy. Being unsuccessful makes us unhappy. I wont even talk about the growing number of people in occident who dont even want an offsprings because they come from dysfcunctional families ridden with sins and trahisons. On the other end you have billions of third world uneducate, ignorant people who outbreed westerners. Westerners are smart, but depressed and dont reproduce.
You can either dominate being benevolent, or being evil. Both paths will get you different results. At some point you have to use your strenght to defend life. Using strenght to destroy life is violence.
Someone 's else misfortune makes you happy. Your own misfortune might make them happy, too. Sometimes you have to kill to survive. You cant help everyone, and you arent responsible for everyone else bad actions. You re forced to take sides every day. Every life form only exists to contribute. If you cant contribute, you re useless, and have no meaning.
Everyone thinks he's right and the other is wrong. As a result billions of individuals fight against each others , just like every animal and plant fight against others animals and plants. Animals arent conscious of existing. Humans, do. They re animal who are conscious of being animals. As a result, they re not entirely animals anymore, they re something else... Humans. We all know what is the next level, step. Being an eternal, good doing, constantly happy life form...
In the end only those who follow God's path will find hapiness, those who want to become like him.
Life is a test, a challenge, a constant free for all, struggle for survival. Every single life form has no other purpose but to outlive other life forms at all costs, and all we do, just like animals and plants, is to try to find the best way to outpower, outsmart the competition. Life is tough, because to get some rest, you first need to struggle.
People who look and think alike stick together and can cooperate. You can make good or bad things of your existence. We all hope that one day, we ll know eternal, constant bliss forever. But until then, it's everyone for himself. People who share the same core beliefs will unite together against those who have different core beliefs. Good people are preparing the kingdom of God on earth.
Life has no other purpose but to insure it's own replication, survival.
We all hope for eternal bliss. For betterment. For perfection. But it is not possible on earth, as human beings to know this. Is there something different, above it all? Is this hope a trick of evolution, of our thought process to keep us alive?
Our only freedom, is to do good or evil.
Cripes. What is this guy's damage!? Imagine being seated next to him at a dinner party?
'Waiter? Could you please bring me a noose. Thanks much.' ::)
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Define "accomplishment". Different meanings for different people.
Tax cuts for the rich.
WTF do you think accomplishment means? Isn't that a universally understood concept?
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What if money got you endless nights with this ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=428107.0;attach=472620;image)
about 30 euros in venezuela...
in america... about 3000 thousand if you're rly handsome and have game.
Tax cuts for the rich.
WTF do you think accomplishment means? Isn't that a universally understood concept?
now that is a life achievement.
How would you like to have a job where you make money out of every single man, woman and child on earth who basicly just transmit money into your bank account.
And what you do for them in exchange for their service? Make NDAA Martial laws, TSA, order all foods to be treated with chemicals before selling, ristrict their freedoms, insert ID chips in their hands etc. You are the king of babylon.
But satan gives you about 85 years to live like a ruler who owns everything on avarage, but god gives you eternity of freedom from hunger, thirst, cold, pain and agony, you would be complete for all eternity smiling and laughing out of joy. Ofcourse you gotta be a slave for the babylon kings for 85 years on avarage before god grants you this peace but for eternity.. I think it's worth it.
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Happiness=Love
If you have someone to love and who loves you in return no matter, that's the essence of a good life. Being loved and being in love in the end is a life well spent, regardless of how nice the house, bed sheets or room is you die in. An incredibly wise man at work once told me that NOBODY that ever died wished in their last moments that they had worked more, made just a little bit more money or bought nicer cars. You'll wish two things. That you loved more, and shagged more. Only if you've done those two things in abundance, you'll die happy. Love and sex, it seems to have a lot to do with happiness!
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Happiness=Love
If you have someone to love and who loves you in return no matter, that's the essence of a good life. Being loved and being in love in the end is a life well spent, regardless of how nice the house, bed sheets or room is you die in. An incredibly wise man at work once told me that NOBODY that ever died wished in their last moments that they had worked more, made just a little bit more money or bought nicer cars. You'll wish two things. That you loved more, and shagged more. Only if you've done those two things in abundance, you'll die happy. Love and sex, it seems to have a lot to do with happiness!
agreed, when you have someone who you can hold on to it makes everything easyer. Love is the best, it's the answer to everything.
only the lucky few can experience that, in the meanwhile you should get to know to yourself. But it's hard at times to find what makes you tik, some people find it right away, some people take forever to find it... some never find it... but I think only then are you ready for a stable relationship.
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about 30 euros in venezuela...
in america... about 3000 thousand if you're rly handsome and have game.
now that is a life achievement.
How would you like to have a job where you make money out of every single man, woman and child on earth who basicly just transmit money into your bank account.
And what you do for them in exchange for their service? Make NDAA Martial laws, TSA, order all foods to be treated with chemicals before selling, ristrict their freedoms, insert ID chips in their hands etc. You are the king of babylon.
But satan gives you about 85 years to live like a ruler who owns everything on avarage, but god gives you eternity of freedom from hunger, thirst, cold, pain and agony, you would be complete for all eternity smiling and laughing out of joy. Ofcourse you gotta be a slave for the babylon kings for 85 years on avarage before god grants you this peace but for eternity.. I think it's worth it.
Are you drunk?
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Are you drunk?
absolutely not, this is my wiseguy mode. But what I said was the truth 8)
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Those three things is all that's needed.
First and foremost, your health, a functional family with a good wife that supports you etc, and then a decent economy (nothing special).
Nothing more is needed for an enjoyable existence.
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agreed, when you have someone who you can hold on to it makes everything easyer. Love is the best, it's the answer to everything.
only the lucky few can experience that, in the meanwhile you should get to know to yourself. But it's hard at times to find what makes you tik, some people find it right away, some people take forever to find it... some never find it... but I think only then are you ready for a stable relationship.
Do you know impossibly hard it is for a multifaceted, self aware organism (so, smart humans) to get to know/accept themselves? Sometimes I wish so hard I was a simpleminded halfwit that could find happiness in a pack of beer and have all they want in life when the unemployment money comes through, but I'm not. I see the forest for the trees. I see my own limitations haunting me daily. It's more a case of accepting who you are than learning about who you are. We all know what and who we are, some just spend a lifetime trying NOT being that person. It's acceptance. Then comes peace. Then comes happiness.
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Do you know impossibly hard it is for a multifaceted, self aware organism (so, smart humans) to get to know/accept themselves? Sometimes I wish so hard I was a simpleminded halfwit that could find happiness in a pack of beer and have all they want in life when the unemployment money comes through, but I'm not. I see the forest for the trees. I see my own limitations haunting me daily. It's more a case of accepting who you are than learning about who you are. We all know what and who we are, some just spend a lifetime trying NOT being that person. It's acceptance. Then comes peace. Then comes happiness.
You said it best, I agree. Well, actually, I do think that every person has something they would love to do that comes naturally to them. But there's more dreamers than those who are just happy for whatever they have.
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You said it best, I agree. Well, actually, I do think that every person has something they would love to do that comes naturally to them. But there's more dreamers than those who are just happy for whatever they have.
Maybe, but it depends what you mean with that? Many naturally gifted and celebrated individuals still fight the same demons as we do. What use is skill and fortune if we have nobody to champion and celebrate with us? Does it mean we see ourselves as adequate and complete, even if the world does? Why would people such as Michael Hutchence, Diane Arbus, Jonathan Brandis, Mike Kelley and countless others kill themselves, even as their gifts transform and shape the world?
I've spent countless hours upon hours driving myself mad with these questions and in the end I always end up with acceptance. You're an imperfect being. I'm an imperfect being. The girl I'm seeing on Wednesday evening is an imperfect being. All that matters in that I'm perfect for myself and we're perfect for each other. But that only comes through acceptance of self. Simple concept but a lifetime to master.
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health and a girl you love, doing nice work and being able to pay the rent
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Happiness is terribly overrated. To see that this is so, read about Robert Nozick's "experience machine," which appears in his book Anarchy, the State, and Utopia. It is a thought experiment where we are asked whether we'd want to be plugged into a machine that could stimulate our brain such that we always have pleasurable experiences. But, the reality we'd be experiencing would be totally false and we'd never actually be doing anything in the real world (in other words, we'd each be in our own little pod and would never actually interact).
If happiness (pleasure) were all that mattered here then we'd gladly plug in and forget about the real world. But most (normal) people reject that; it seems like there is something more to value to our existence than just being happy all the time, like actually doing real things, interacting with real people, accomplishing stuff, understanding the world better, etc. So, if you would opt out of being plugged in (I think most people would), you need to say that there is more to life than just happiness.
P.S. If this all sounds like the Matrix then that's because it is ... or rather, the Matrix stole the idea, as the book was written in the 70's.
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Happiness is terribly overrated. To see that this is so, read about Robert Nozick's "experience machine," which appears in his book Anarchy, the State, and Utopia. It is a thought experiment where we are asked whether we'd want to be plugged into a machine that could stimulate our brain such that we always have pleasurable experiences. But, the reality we'd be experiencing would be totally false and we'd never actually be doing anything in the real world (in other words, we'd each be in our own little pod and would never actually interact).
If happiness (pleasure) were all that mattered here then we'd gladly plug in and forget about the real world. But most (normal) people reject that; it seems like there is something more to value to our existence than just being happy all the time, like actually doing real things, interacting with real people, accomplishing stuff, understanding the world better, etc. So, if you would opt out of being plugged in (I think most people would), you need to say that there is more to life than just happiness.
P.S. If this all sounds like the Matrix then that's because it is ... or rather, the Matrix stole the idea, as the book was written in the 70's.
Maybe it's because people want REAL experiences and not fake ones that, well, Nozick's machine brought. Stupid analogy to be honest. And stupid experiment. I'll never want to be plugged into a machine for fake happiness. I'll take my chances in the real world.
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Most people agree with you and that is sort of the point of the thought experiment. Why are you calling the experiment "stupid"?
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Most people agree with you and that is sort of the point of the thought experiment. Why are you calling the experiment "stupid"?
Because it's not realistic. It has to be something that makes people think hard. It's not natural for a human to be controlled and locked up. It's not in our nature and we fear it therefore the experiment was moot from the start. Why do you think criminals go to jail? You take freedom away. The ultimate punishment. I'll have a think and see if I can come back with a different alternative. Nothing comes to mind right now.
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Because it's not realistic. It has to be something that makes people think hard. It's not natural for a human to be controlled and locked up. It's not in our nature and we fear it therefore the experiment was moot from the start. Why do you think criminals go to jail? You take freedom away. The ultimate punishment. I'll have a think and see if I can come back with a different alternative. Nothing comes to mind right now.
The stimulations of the brain by the machine would be indiscernible (from an experiential standpoint) from really being free and doing stuff; that's realistic. For example, astronauts are trained in a way such that they experience what will happen in space despite it not having happened at all (their brains are tricked, in essence*). Thus, ultimate pleasure + the experiential equivalent of freedom would be attained by plugging in to the machine. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference, unlike being in prison versus out of prison.
I think that when we sketch these basic facts, we see that the thought experiment isn't stupid but rather achieves its goal of making us question whether a bunch of pleasant states is all that we are really after, or all that we really value, in existing.
*I'm referring to the more recent stuff, where they're using electrodes to stimulate the astronauts' brains in order to simulate the experience of spaceflight, e.g. http://www.nsbri.org/newsflash/indivArticle.asp?id=454&articleID=133 (http://www.nsbri.org/newsflash/indivArticle.asp?id=454&articleID=133).
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Health, earning money with things you like, social network, adventure.
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unhealthy gym
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What's life to you? Make as much money as you can to be rich, have lots of power, big house, nice broads to get laid with, expensive cars, go on lots of vacations, have your own company/business running OR get the highest level of education, work for somebody, make enough money to pay bills and save some on layaway, drive a nice car, have a decent size house, have a good wife, etc. OR do you want fame/Celebrity status etc, is there a combination of these lifestyles inbetween perhaps?
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When I get one I'll get back to you.
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To be happy.
But bear in mind that happiness, cannot in itself be sought after as the main objective, because true happiness is a byproduct of life. Helping other, being faithful to your beliefs and your family, working hard, enjoying rest etc, will make you happy - the mistake people make is when they leave these things to one side in pursuit of 'happiness'
The same thing is true with Money. If you seek money, as your main objective it will lead to 'all kind of evil'. If you work hard, however, and are careful and wise with your money, you can enjoy it and be happy, and use your money to give your family and the ones you love more oppurtunity and time to relax.
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What's life to you? Make as much money as you can to be rich, have lots of power, big house, nice broads to get laid with, expensive cars, go on lots of vacations, have your own company/business running OR get the highest level of education, work for somebody, make enough money to pay bills and save some on layaway, drive a nice car, have a decent size house, have a good wife, etc. OR do you want fame/Celebrity status etc, is there a combination of these lifestyles inbetween perhaps?
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To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
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health and happyness must be first, then a stressless life.having a good woman and friends.
then comes money.
Good order.
Nothing worse than having one lung, 2 glass eyes, derek anthony's kidney, no friends,......and a million bucks to enjoy it all with lol.
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What if money got you endless nights with this ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=428107.0;attach=472620;image)
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Maybe, but it depends what you mean with that? Many naturally gifted and celebrated individuals still fight the same demons as we do. What use is skill and fortune if we have nobody to champion and celebrate with us? Does it mean we see ourselves as adequate and complete, even if the world does? Why would people such as Michael Hutchence, Diane Arbus, Jonathan Brandis, Mike Kelley and countless others kill themselves, even as their gifts transform and shape the world?
I've spent countless hours upon hours driving myself mad with these questions and in the end I always end up with acceptance. You're an imperfect being. I'm an imperfect being. The girl I'm seeing on Wednesday evening is an imperfect being. All that matters in that I'm perfect for myself and we're perfect for each other. But that only comes through acceptance of self. Simple concept but a lifetime to master.
You don't have to make miracles to do something "naturally to you". You can be a poor painter, but you can paint all seeing eye on your bedroom wall on your own and that makes you happy as hell and people admire you for that skill. But not everyone realises what it might be. You know for example in the "Demolition man" the head character got inserted with special ability to sew and he had no idea he had it
In my country there's several big names who are multi millionaires with familys, who own islands, cars and have more cash than the forrest has leaves, so guess what they do? Murder their wife, children and then burn their huge mansion they lived in and tell the cops "something happent in my head", sometimes they kill themnselves and then noone knows why, hell even if they don't kill themselves noone knows why. I mean these people do not take drugs or anything and yet they do shit like this. So I know what you mean with what you said how can someone who has everything kill themselves. Maby it's a satanic ritual ;D , maby jealousy going overboard, obscenery.
I think if you don't have love in your life, everything you have becomes meaningless. But if you have someone to hold on to or just love in general, not these people who appreciate you for your status and money, you will praise god for everything you have or every little thing you have (just a figure of speech, all you atheists calm down).
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What's life to you? Make as much money as you can to be rich, have lots of power, big house, nice broads to get laid with, expensive cars, go on lots of vacations, have your own company/business running OR get the highest level of education, work for somebody, make enough money to pay bills and save some on layaway, drive a nice car, have a decent size house, have a good wife, etc. OR do you want fame/Celebrity status etc, is there a combination of these lifestyles inbetween perhaps?
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Life is HEALTH.
After you get all those things you mention above, you'll get use to them in about 6 months..... once you get used to those beautiful expensive things is like if "none of them didnt exist"....and Just about everyone will get close to you cause you either have "fame or cash" (family included)....
Life is about getting up every morning wanting "something"...
And if money is not at the bottom of that list...You will never have a life"
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health first and working for someone else rarely brings peace of mind needed to be happy
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=428126.0;attach=472883;image)
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Some solid replies in here. I'm catching up on the readings! But the most important thing I've noticed from the replies is health. And without it nothing can be done in life pretty much. And most people tend to put health bottom of the list. So once stress, emotional distress, anxiety, depression hits them then they'll know what health really is and should be on top of the list!
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health and a girl you love, doing nice work and being able to pay the rent
= surviving.
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The stimulations of the brain by the machine would be indiscernible (from an experiential standpoint) from really being free and doing stuff; that's realistic. For example, astronauts are trained in a way such that they experience what will happen in space despite it not having happened at all (their brains are tricked, in essence*). Thus, ultimate pleasure + the experiential equivalent of freedom would be attained by plugging in to the machine. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference, unlike being in prison versus out of prison.
I think that when we sketch these basic facts, we see that the thought experiment isn't stupid but rather achieves its goal of making us question whether a bunch of pleasant states is all that we are really after, or all that we really value, in existing.
*I'm referring to the more recent stuff, where they're using electrodes to stimulate the astronauts' brains in order to simulate the experience of spaceflight, e.g. http://www.nsbri.org/newsflash/indivArticle.asp?id=454&articleID=133 (http://www.nsbri.org/newsflash/indivArticle.asp?id=454&articleID=133).
The feeling of being happy , the chemical recipe that leads to feel happy, is linked to situations where you maintain, defend, or improve your ownor your loved ones odds of survival. Everything that lower them on the moment or might lower them later gets you stressed. Feeling stress= your brain calculating that your odds of survival will be lower in a near future.
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For me, life is about travelling and exploring the world, having adventures and trying to enjoy life as much as possible.
At the end of my life, I want a lot of great memories and good times to think back on and have no regrets.
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Life to me is learning how to deal with its ups and downs. Happiness is an emotion just like sadness and you cannot experience one without the other. Its about becoming a better person and not committing the same mistakes over and over. It's about connecting with others, loving and letting yourself be loved. (no homo)
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What's life to you? Make as much money as you can to be rich, have lots of power, big house, nice broads to get laid with, expensive cars, go on lots of vacations, have your own company/business running OR get the highest level of education, work for somebody, make enough money to pay bills and save some on layaway, drive a nice car, have a decent size house, have a good wife, etc. OR do you want fame/Celebrity status etc, is there a combination of these lifestyles inbetween perhaps?
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Health and Happiness.. Both Mentally and Physcially
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Life is about different things, right now it's about getting the funds to grab the new Smith & Wesson 9mm shield. :o
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Life is about different things, right now it's about getting the funds to grab the new Smith & Wesson 9mm shield. :o
i have the S&W MP 9mm.. good concealable gun
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Name?
Lenka Gaborova
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i have the S&W MP 9mm.. good concealable gun
I hear it's got little recoil and a nice trigger.
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I hear it's got little recoil and a nice trigger.
yeah, i love it, i have big hands, but even for a small gun it fits nicely... no recoil at all for me
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holy fuck, that is perfect
What if money got you endless nights with this ???
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=428107.0;attach=472620;image)
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Good to see her in action!!!
http://www.xvideos.com/video2063449/cumshot_compilation_lenka_gaborova
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Be the best I can in anything I touch.
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8-ball and some strippers
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late in this thread, looks like its already deteriorated to cumshot compilations. but life is about being good to people and to yourself. there is no heaven/hell. stop that balonie. be kind
self outing :-\
back to the cum dumpsters :D
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Good to see her in action!!!
http://www.xvideos.com/video2063449/cumshot_compilation_lenka_gaborova
Bookmarked for future viewings.
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Happiness is terribly overrated. To see that this is so, read about Robert Nozick's "experience machine," which appears in his book Anarchy, the State, and Utopia. It is a thought experiment where we are asked whether we'd want to be plugged into a machine that could stimulate our brain such that we always have pleasurable experiences. But, the reality we'd be experiencing would be totally false and we'd never actually be doing anything in the real world (in other words, we'd each be in our own little pod and would never actually interact).
If happiness (pleasure) were all that mattered here then we'd gladly plug in and forget about the real world. But most (normal) people reject that; it seems like there is something more to value to our existence than just being happy all the time, like actually doing real things, interacting with real people, accomplishing stuff, understanding the world better, etc. So, if you would opt out of being plugged in (I think most people would), you need to say that there is more to life than just happiness.
P.S. If this all sounds like the Matrix then that's because it is ... or rather, the Matrix stole the idea, as the book was written in the 70's.
I would agree to be "plugged in". All the experience of life still happens in the brain so I couldn't care less. Actually - most people will spend their time that way (plugged into the virtual reality) once a computer-brain interface will be good enough (just like they are epnding their time on FB, second life and other virtual stuff currently.. actually - most of their time, already..). People may be against such an idea just because it's a "radical" one.. once they get accustomed to it - it becomes a whole diff. deal..
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life is like a twinky
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life is like a twinky
Disgusting, unhealthy and fattening?
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Those three things is all that's needed.
First and foremost, your health, a functional family with a good wife that supports you etc, and then a decent economy (nothing special).
Nothing more is needed for an enjoyable existence.
This is true. These are the ingredients for a good life, and the combination of these things will make any attainable dream come true. Whether it is travel, a home, a family, these things will make it all possible.