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Title: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: The_Hammer on June 22, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Good exercise? 

Good for developing overall trapezius and rear deltoid?


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Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: The_Hammer on June 22, 2012, 02:10:35 PM
Could you please pull your face into a combine.

Thank you,

The Management

NFL combine? 

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Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: The_Hammer on June 22, 2012, 02:32:13 PM
Not really... ;D



Are you serious?  You've got issues buddy...
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Meaningless on June 22, 2012, 04:17:34 PM
I don't know. But one guy in my gym pulls some serious faces whilst training I do know that.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 04:22:23 PM
Good exercise? 

Good for developing overall trapezius and rear deltoid?


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Who's the stud in the video?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: wes on June 22, 2012, 04:27:49 PM
Here`s a tip to feel them more in your rear delts.

Instead of just pulling the weight into your face area,concentrate on pushing the elbows back instead.

For your first time trying it,have a training partner place his hands on the back of your elbows and imaging that they are like pads on a machine that you have to push back...........after a while you`ll be fine on your own, and I guarantee your rear delts will pump like never before.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 04:35:45 PM
Not intended as a trap or read delt exercise.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: wes on June 22, 2012, 04:45:45 PM
Not intended as a trap or read delt exercise.
OK,I`ll bite.  :)
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: haider on June 22, 2012, 04:48:05 PM
Not intended as a trap or read delt exercise.
???

Have I been doing them for my glutes all along?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: wes on June 22, 2012, 04:51:26 PM
???

Have I been doing them for my glutes all along?
;D
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 04:59:30 PM
Not intended as a trap or read delt exercise.

Why not use some standard old cable "rope" with ends? Or even better, some nylon rubber grips or handles?

Oh that is right, you wouldn't be unique and be able to sell MPF  worthless advice if you did what everyone else did???

I see what you did there....
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 05:01:27 PM
???

Have I been doing them for my glutes all along?

Only if yur head is up your ass ;D
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 05:03:04 PM
Why not use some standard old cable "rope" with ends? Or even better, some nylon rubber grips or handles?

Oh that is right, you wouldn't be unique and be able to sell MPF  worthless advice if you did what everyone else did???

I see what you did there....

Grip strength.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 05:07:29 PM
Grip strength.

A rope and/or nylon rubber grips does not accomplish this? Really? Any proof besides broscience?

Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: dov on June 22, 2012, 05:07:45 PM
Here`s a tip to feel them more in your rear delts.

Instead of just pulling the weight into your face area,concentrate on pushing the elbows back instead.

For your first time trying it,have a training partner place his hands on the back of your elbows and imaging that they are like pads on a machine that you have to push back...........after a while you`ll be fine on your own, and I guarantee your rear delts will pump like never before.
^^^^THIS^^^^Wes knows what he's talking about
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: ChristopherA on June 22, 2012, 05:14:20 PM
Here`s a tip to feel them more in your rear delts.

Instead of just pulling the weight into your face area,concentrate on pushing the elbows back instead.

For your first time trying it,have a training partner place his hands on the back of your elbows and imaging that they are like pads on a machine that you have to push back...........after a while you`ll be fine on your own, and I guarantee your rear delts will pump like never before.
Oh Wes you're sooo smart. I bet you'd like to have your training partner put his hands on you
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: ChristopherA on June 22, 2012, 05:31:53 PM
Great fucking pic!
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 06:04:29 PM
A rope and/or nylon rubber grips does not accomplish this? Really? Any proof besides broscience?



You mean besides having the commonsense to know if the stops at the ends of the ropes give some.relief to the grip? Do you really need a case study for that? Lol
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2012, 06:08:33 PM
A rope and/or nylon rubber grips does not accomplish this? Really? Any proof besides broscience?


Are you retarded ???
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 06:11:24 PM
Are you retarded ???

73 posts
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 06:13:36 PM
73 posts

Please explain why a rope pull is not as efficient? I am serious. Please, post proof. I understand your previous explanation, but gripping the rope (without using rubber ends as part of the grip) you're telling me I can't get the same effect?
Broscience at it's best.
Gotta make a buck.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
Please explain why a rope pull is not as efficient? I am serious? Please, post proof.

I just did.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 06:17:54 PM
Are you retarded ???

You must not train. I will give you this one free pass.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: BB on June 22, 2012, 06:18:09 PM
Please explain why a rope pull is not as efficient? I am serious? Please, post proof.

He wants to make it harder to grip,  ala odd grip training. A standard rope handle, etc..... is still a relatively standard easy to grip shape.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 22, 2012, 06:18:13 PM
A rope and/or nylon rubber grips does not accomplish this? Really? Any proof besides broscience?

What's harder to grip when pulling weights from, a rope, nylon rubber grips or the ends of a towel?

A towel.

Don't believe me, do towel pull-ups and see how your wrists & forearms feel after a set of 10 reps.

The traction you have when using a rope or rubber grips is not present when you use a towel.

"1"
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2012, 06:18:38 PM
You must not train. I will give you this one free pass.
LMFAO ;D
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 06:25:05 PM
I just did.

Gripping a rope, mid-length will not accomplish this?

Again, where's the proof stud?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 06:27:28 PM
What's harder to grip when pulling weights from, a rope, nylon rubber grips or the ends of a towel?

A towel.

Don't believe me, do towel pull-ups and see how your wrists & forearms feel after a set of 10 reps.

The traction you have when using a rope or rubber grips is not present when you use a towel.

"1"

Really...since you are the expert, please privide proof.

I really am not trying to argue..just tired of this broscience shit.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
LMFAO ;D

Come on, thought you could do better.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2012, 06:29:45 PM
Gripping a rope, mid-length will not accomplish this?

Again, where's the proof stud?
Try it yourself......next time you roll to the kitchen to get your fat ass another hot pocket, throw the rope around the freezer door handle and use it to pull your extra large ass out of your electric wheelchair. You fat, lazy fuck.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Montague on June 22, 2012, 06:32:21 PM
LMFAO ;D


Have you ever tried finger-tip chins for developing grip?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2012, 06:33:40 PM

Have you ever tried finger-tip chins for developing grip?
Not my fat ass. ;D I don't use straps for anything, so my grip almost never gives out.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 22, 2012, 06:33:54 PM
Really...since you are the expert, please privide proof.

I really am not trying to argue..just tired of this broscience shit.

Why do you resort to calling me names?

I have never stated to be any sort of expert.

"1"
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 06:35:05 PM
Try it yourself......next time you roll to the kitchen to get your fat ass another hot pocket, throw the rope around the freezer door handle and use it to pull your extra large ass out of your electric wheelchair. You fat, lazy fuck.

Ok, no more passes.

I agree, a rope would be just as challenging as that BS towel.

Your point again,chump?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Montague on June 22, 2012, 06:37:55 PM
Not my fat ass. ;D I don't use straps for anything, so my grip almost never gives out.


Even a static hold in a dead hang position is challenging.
Some guys perform these on 2x4's.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 06:39:21 PM
Why do you resort to calling me names?

I have never stated to be any sort of expert.

"1"

Some would consider what I said as a compliment....don't be so sensitive.
It was definitely not meant as name calling.

Again, I can appreciate all these scenarios with grip, but again, this is all purely broscience.

One more way to get people to pay for training services.  
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 06:42:44 PM

Even a static hold in a dead hang position is challenging.
Some guys perform these on 2x4's.

I agree. There are many ways to build grip strength, but a towel is FAR more confusing to the average out of shape individual. This was my point from the beginning.

Only a "professional" knows how to lift with a towel and must be paid.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: jparker on June 22, 2012, 06:44:26 PM
I do these anytime I press (bench or over head), 5 sets of 12 to 20 reps, usually at the end of my workout.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: OneMoreRep on June 22, 2012, 06:44:54 PM
I agree. There are many ways to build grip strength, but a towel is FAR more confusing to the average out of shape individual. This was my point from the beginning.

Only a "professional" knows how to lift with a towel.

Do you have actual proof for these statements found within an actual kinesiology textbook of some sort or are they merely derived from broscience?

"1"
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2012, 06:45:01 PM

Even a static hold in a dead hang position is challenging.
Some guys perform these on 2x4's.
The only time I wrap my thumb on back moves is deadlifts, other than that I always use a thumbless grip for back stuff, not sure if it helps grip, just the way I've always done it.


Ok, no more passes.

I agree, a rope would be just as challenging as that BS towel.

Your point again,chump?
Huh? I am assuming that you are indeed retarded and don't have the mental capacity to understand what has been explained to you.

Your half assed attempt at trolling Coach backfired, get over it, log out of this gimmick and into another one. :-*
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Hulkotron on June 22, 2012, 07:05:09 PM
I have an NIH grant to study this and Coach is correct.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 07:28:28 PM
Really...since you are the expert, please privide proof.

I really am not trying to argue..just tired of this broscience shit.

Yes, I am the expert. What kind of proof ate you looking for gimmick? Come train with us and I'll give you all the proof you need. We pull sleds with 300lbs on it for 40 yards with a 2" thick rope as well. Are you going to tell me that using a 1" rope  sis going to be the same? Are you looking.for.case studies? Throw up your training and let pick it apart. How bout that stud. BTW, I FUCKING love training challenges. You probably think muscle confusion is real too. Haha.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 07:44:25 PM
Do you have actual proof for these statements found within an actual kinesiology textbook of some sort or are they merely derived from broscience?

"1"

I see you are playing dumb.

Tell me, if 10 people walk into a gym and see a towel and a rubber gripped rope, how many would think the towel was a piece of gym equipment, besides drying themselves after showering.

Am I clear?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2012, 07:46:35 PM
I see you are playing dumb.

Tell me, if 10 people walk into a gym and see a towel and a rubber gripped rope, how many would think the towel was a piece of gym equipment, besides drying themselves after showering.

Am I clear?
Quite clear. You are a rookie trainer and have no thought besides what you read in Flex or MD. We get it, you're here for help.

Now fuck off.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 07:57:16 PM
I see you are playing dumb.

Tell me, if 10 people walk into a gym and see a towel and a rubber gripped rope, how many would think the towel was a piece of gym equipment, besides drying themselves after showering.

Am I clear?

Yes....you're clearly an idiot. Most people who walk into commercial gym wouldnt knw, but then again most who walk into a gym wouldn't know what GHR is or a yolk or a tire or know what to with something that ISN'T a machine. Am I clear?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 08:04:18 PM
Quite clear. You are a rookie trainer and have no thought besides what you read in Flex or MD. We get it, you're here for help.

Now fuck off.

Wait...this clown claims to be a trainer??
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: wes on June 22, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
Oh Wes you're sooo smart. I bet you'd like to have your training partner put his hands on you
Bro,I train with an awesome looking chick........seriously.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 08:29:52 PM
Quite clear. You are a rookie trainer and have no thought besides what you read in Flex or MD. We get it, you're here for help.

Now fuck off.

Outed for knowing what is actually in an MD or Flex.



Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 08:35:48 PM
Yes....you're clearly an idiot. Most people who walk into commercial gym wouldnt knw, but then again most who walk into a gym wouldn't know what GHR is or a yolk or a tire or know what to with something that ISN'T a machine. Am I clear?

Really....reinventing the wheel huh?

I can't fault you for trying to make a buck, but come on...

How did people and athletes ever get into shape before your practices? Hmmmmmmm

Different tool, same result.

Why doesn't the NFL and other sports care about your "techniques" in the combine score,etc.?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: chaos on June 22, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
Wait...this clown claims to be a trainer??
I don't think so ....I just meant that he's obviously new to training.  :P
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: abijahmaniaco on June 22, 2012, 09:14:04 PM
Here`s a tip to feel them more in your rear delts.

Instead of just pulling the weight into your face area,concentrate on pushing the elbows back instead.

For your first time trying it,have a training partner place his hands on the back of your elbows and imaging that they are like pads on a machine that you have to push back...........after a while you`ll be fine on your own, and I guarantee your rear delts will pump like never before.

exceptional advice. at my old gym they used to have a machine like the one you're suggesting to visualize. you layed on your stomach and drove through the elbows into these two swiveling pads.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Princess L on June 22, 2012, 09:26:48 PM
Quite clear. You are a rookie trainer and have no thought besides what you read in Flex or MD. We get it, you're here for help.

Now fuck off.

 ;D
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
I don't think so ....I just meant that he's obviously new to training.  :P

Please verify...

Otherwise, please refrain from commenting on what I do.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 09:56:15 PM
Really....reinventing the wheel huh?

I can't fault you for trying to make a buck, but come on...

How did people and athletes ever get into shape before your practices? Hmmmmmmm

Different tool, same result.

Why doesn't the NFL and other sports care about your "techniques" in the combine score,etc.?

I dunno, probably the same way they don't care about anyone else's "techniques" except for Verstegan's Athletes Performance. I had 3 in the combines and one for a pro day showing..you?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 09:57:17 PM
Please verify...

Otherwise, please refrain from commenting on what I do.

Ok, lets clarify. What is it you do to make the comments you do?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 10:01:43 PM
I dunno, probably the same way they don't care about anyone else's "techniques" except for Verstegan's Athletes Performance. I had 3 in the combines and one for a pro day showing..you?

Laughable at best. Come on, this is Getbig. You can concoct a better story than that, can't you?

Give me one VALID reason why a "famed" trainer such as yourself would come here?

Something doesn't sound right with that does it?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 10:03:01 PM
Ok, lets clarify. What is it you do to make the comments you do?

Why would I do that?

This is Getbig. We're all superstars, right?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 10:07:00 PM
Laughable at best. Come on, this is Getbig. You can concoct a better story than that, can't you?

Give me one VALID reason why a "famed" trainer such as yourself would come here?

Something doesn't sound right with that does it?

1. Been here since about 2000.

2. Describe a "famed" trainer. Is it that internet guru that writes about anything to somehow convince people they are expert in their field or one that actually doesn't have time to write blogs and articles because they're too busy actually training people? Your call "sport".
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 10:08:51 PM
Why would I do that?

This is Getbig. We're all superstars, right?

Because I have nothing to hide and can prove myself. If you're going to talk bullshit...prove yourself. If you can't, they get off here because so far you've been getting owned to oblivion.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 10:13:51 PM
Gimmick.......where are you? This is getting good. You have an open invite to come train with us. You in or are you going to hide?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 10:41:07 PM
1. Been here since about 2000.

2. Describe a "famed" trainer. Is it that internet guru that writes about anything to somehow convince people they are expert in their field or one that actually doesn't have time to write blogs and articles because they're too busy actually training people? Your call "sport".

Exactly my point. You seem to have a lot of free time on your hands.

You sure must be busy training people to spend all this time on here.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: ChristopherA on June 22, 2012, 10:43:28 PM
Um basically everything Coach says can be backed up. Who the fuck are you again?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 10:45:47 PM
Gimmick.......where are you? This is getting good. You have an open invite to come train with us. You in or are you going to hide?

Please, let's not start a " I'll meet you here toughuy" challenges.

Then again, I almost forgot....you do have to show the world how tough 5'5" can be.

Big weights, Big Material things. All while beating your chest.

Am I right , "Big Guy?"
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 10:48:42 PM
Um basically everything Coach says can be backed up. Who the fuck are you again?

Jerry Sandusky was a great coach. What's your point?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 10:51:46 PM
Exactly my point. You seem to have a lot of free time on your hands.

You sure must be busy training people to spend all this time on here.

Hahaha, we had 36 in today. You?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 22, 2012, 10:53:52 PM
Please, let's not start a " I'll meet you here toughuy" challenges.

Then again, I almost forgot....you do have to show the world how tough 5'5" can be.

Big weights, Big Material things. All while beating your chest.

Am I right , "Big Guy?"


Hey Bud, I'm just asking you to come train with us. Well? A big talker like yourself shouldn't have a problem with that..right?
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: reclifter on June 22, 2012, 11:01:27 PM
Hey Bud, I'm just asking you to come train with us. Well? A big talker like yourself shouldn't have a problem with that..right?

You very well may have.

You muse be a good salesman.
Title: Re: Opinions on Face-Pulls?
Post by: wes on June 23, 2012, 01:06:37 AM
exceptional advice. at my old gym they used to have a machine like the one you're suggesting to visualize. you layed on your stomach and drove through the elbows into these two swiveling pads.
Thanks bro,I`ve seen that machine in a few gyms over the years.......I think Nautilus made one.