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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: daddy8ball on June 22, 2012, 10:25:07 PM
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When does alcohol become a problem?
And this is bodybuilding related because Getbiggers club, they drink, and they have to hit the gym the next day.
Or do they?
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When they smell of alcohol by lunch time every day
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When you wake up in the morning with something that looks like Dana Linn Bailey
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When you mouthwash IS alcohol.
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When your name is on a waiting list for a new Liver.
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an alcoholic is anyone that you don't like, who drinks as much as you do
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When you go by the name Borracho on getbig
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when you start pooping your pants on a weekly basis.
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When you drink to cope. :-\
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CalvinH
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CalvinH
A list Calvin finally made :D
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spent many years in the bottle myself. it is a stupid title with a million definitions. my thought is that if booze negatively affects your life, stop drinking, if you cant then get help.
friends in AA swear by it. i found that listening to all those wino's made me want to drink more. there are medications to help
PM me if you need/want to talk. no homo.....unless your homo, we can still talk :)
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A fuckwr who is happy one minute then a angry fuck after a round or two of drinks
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When you have to drink Alcohol to deal with life, shakes, anytime the alcohol seems to be the priority over life.
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When you have to drink Alcohol to deal with life, shakes, anytime the alcohol seems to be the priority over life.
this
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an alcoholic is anyone that you don't like, who drinks as much as you do
haha! True
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al·co·hol·ic
adjective
See CalvinH
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When they smell of alcohol by lunch time every day
lolzer even sadder when it's a woman in her 30s.
I mean, a 22 year old kid learning his limits, that sucks.
but you see a woman in her 30s or 40s with kids... swilling PBR at the 10:15 smoke break... that shit is sad.
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If you get home tired from work, realize there's no more booz, and go back into the rain to get some...Then the problems are getting bigger...
says Dr Dutch
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When they smell of alcohol by lunch time every day
I used to work with a couple of guys. I'd say one was definite alcoholic, the other borderline. We'd be in work at 8:30am and if you were in the lift(elevator) with either of them you could practically see the alcohol oozing out of them as it stung your eyes.
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When they wake up at 7am and eat a hearty breakfast that consists of eggs, bacon, pancakes, and a CAN OF BUDWEISER (my aunt).
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If you get home tired from work, realize there's no more booz, and go back into the rain to get some...Then the problems are getting bigger...
says Dr Dutch
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Dr d, do they use naltrexone to treat alcoholism in Europe?
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Dr d, do they use naltrexone to treat alcoholism in Europe?
Sure, both for opiates and alcohol addiction..
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Sure, both for opiates and alcohol addiction..
Naltrexone for Opiate addiction?
I know they use Naloxone for IV opiate users, but never heard of using Naltrexone.
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When they wake up at 7am and eat a hearty breakfast that consists of eggs, bacon, pancakes, and a CAN OF BUDWEISER (my aunt).
A true alky would have opted for just the can of Bud.
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When they wake up, and roll over and grab the 5th of jack off the nightstand and take a swig before they get out of bed.....
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Alcoholic chicks are easy.
(http://www.hookingupsmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/drunk-girls-are1_78318805.jpg)
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Naltrexone for Opiate addiction?
I know they use Naloxone for IV opiate users, but never heard of using Naltrexone.
Naloxone is for OD's, Naltrexone is a partial opioids agonist/antagonist. It stimulates the receptor a bit, so the craving for heroine decreases. It was found out only later that it decreased the relapses of alcoholism too, cause the receptors are partly identical.
For alcoholics the combination with acamprosate and perhaps baclofen. Many topiramate too, especially for older people..
I only prescribe disulfiram (antabus) if the intake is controlled.
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A doctor once gave me antabus......flushed it down the toilet,stuff is dangerous if you relapse.
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A doctor once gave me antabus......flushed it down the toilet,stuff is dangerous if you relapse.
They should only prescribe it if the vital organs (liver, kidney, heart) are good enough...then the stuff is only very unpleasant when you relapse (and that's exactly the idea.. :D)..
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Naloxone is for OD's, Naltrexone is a partial opioids agonist/antagonist. It stimulates the receptor a bit, so the craving for heroine decreases. It was found out only later that it decreased the relapses of alcoholism too, cause the receptors are partly identical.
For alcoholics the combination with acamprosate and perhaps baclofen. Many topiramate too, especially for older people..
I only prescribe disulfiram (antabus) if the intake is controlled.
Ah. Kinda like Buprenorphine? They have been giving out Suboxone (Bup/Naloxone combo) to addicts like candy, the problem being that its almost as bad as Methadone to get off of, only its a partial agonist/antagonist instead of a full agonist.
Still sucks ass to get off. Whats funny, is the pharma company marketing it was saying that since it was both a partial agonist and antagonist, that people would have no withdrawals. Fucking assholes.
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We had some success with Suboxone, but it is mostly sucessful for the Pharmaceutical industry, as 95% of all new drugs... :-\
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We had some success with Suboxone, but it is mostly sucessful for the Pharmaceutical industry, as 95% of all new drugs... :-\
The problem was that they had all the Doctors convinced it was a miracle drug.
When I quit it, I was in withdrawals for 60+ days (acute for at least a month plus)
Heroin withdrawal was over and done with inside of 10 days (Acute within 5)
It was terribad. And the docs kept telling me there is no withdrawals, you must be mistaken, yadda yadda yadda.
I switched docs 4 times until I found one that wasnt taken in by the Pharma marketing bullshit.
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By these definitions I used to be alcoholic. Now I'm just too cheap or broke at times, so I dont buy it as often. Don't like beer much at all anymore- weird- I used to.
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When they wake up, and roll over and grab the 5th of jack off the nightstand and take a swig before they get out of bed.....
I had an uncle like that, I think I posted about that same scenario a couple years back.
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I had an uncle like that, I think I posted about that same scenario a couple years back.
Yeah, thats brutal. I had a week once where I did that (when I was hanging out with a chick I probably shouldnt have). Terrible experience.
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Yeah, thats brutal. I had a week once where I did that (when I was hanging out with a chick I probably shouldnt have). Terrible experience.
I worked in a team called bemoeizorg (hard to translate: interfering with them when they wouldn't come for help themselves, and really don't appreciate it sometimes) for addicts, there you find people at their worst. The diseases and stuff are sometimes comparable to 3rd world. And when you look into the medical files and read about their biography, you understand why they ended up that way.
This contributed to my strong belief that some people just shouldn't be allowed to have children, and that they should get contraceptives by force, if necessary...this is a big thing, especially after the eugenic programs by the nazi's, but I stand by it..
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I worked in a team called bemoeizorg (hard to translate: interfering with them when they wouldn't come for help themselves, and really don't appreciate it sometimes) for addicts, there you find people at their worst. The diseases and stuff are sometimes comparable to 3rd world. And when you look into the medical files and read about their biography, you understand why they ended up that way.
This contributed to my strong belief that some people just shouldn't be allowed to have children, and that they should get contraceptives by force, if necessary...this is a big thing, especially after the eugenic programs by the nazi's, but I stand by it..
Yes, its a terrible thing to say, but some people just arent fit to become parents.
Some of the other addicts I knew, were never going to quit - I got bad because I was in a bad, wanted to try new things, and it just spiraled out of control.. some of those people had such deep seated mental issues that they literally could not stand to be sober - they needed something to kill their mind, as it was just too painful being in their own head.
(The girl in the above quote was one of them, molested by her step father as a small child, hooking for meth by 11, and it goes on. Sad thing is, she just had a child.)
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Most people still think addiction is always a choice, or a curable situation. But in many cases it's a chronic disease, better: a survival mechanism...I like alcohol too, I get drunk sometimes, but if alcohol was invented/discovered today, it definitely wouyld be classified a harddrug, and not allowed..
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The term alcoholic is very complicated.
If the amount of negative experiences outnumber the positive ones while consuming alcohol, then you have a problem.
Confusing positive times and negative times is also a good sign you got a problem.
Waking up next to a hot chick, with the smell of pussy all over yourself, but you have no idea what happened after your first drink of the night, might be considered a positive experience by most, but in reality, it's a sign of a problem.
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A doctor once gave me antabus......flushed it down the toilet,stuff is dangerous if you relapse.
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That stuff scares the shit out of me too, which I guess is the point. Naltrexone was great helping with th initial cravings for booze. Made me lazy as hell for a week or so, but well worth it
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Lotsa (former) addicts on getbig....no surprise and no problem.
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Most people still think addiction is always a choice, or a curable situation. But in many cases it's a chronic disease, better: a survival mechanism...I like alcohol too, I get drunk sometimes, but if alcohol was invented/discovered today, it definitely wouyld be classified a harddrug, and not allowed..
It's been said that alcohol has destroyed millions of families. But i'm willing to guess that it's saved more than it's destroyed. I can't imagine living in a world where you had to visit a doctor just to take the edge off.