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Title: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2012, 03:32:26 PM
I'm not sure, maybe rectum licker can help with some "advices"...Hahaha!









Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2012, 03:41:21 PM
So in the first video you put a board on your chest to bench. How is this any different than laying on the floor? Looks like the same range of motion
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2012, 03:45:43 PM
So in the first video you put a board on your chest to bench. How is this any different than laying on the floor? Looks like the same range of motion

One's a bar one's a dumbbell. You can use either, DB floor, Barbell floor, 1 board, 2 board, 3 board for lockouts. Use DB's with athletes to help increase increase scap and shoulder stability, palms-in generates more power.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2012, 03:54:05 PM
One's a bar one's a dumbbell. You can use either, DB floor, Barbell floor, 1 board, 2 board, 3 board for lockouts. Use DB's with athletes to help increase increase scap and shoulder stability, palms-in generates more power.

yeah, but you can lay in the squat rack and place the pins in a position that allows you to use a bar and the same range of motion as using dumbbells on the floor and and the bench press with the board laying across your chest.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2012, 04:15:21 PM
yeah, but you can lay in the squat rack and place the pins in a position that allows you to use a bar and the same range of motion as using dumbbells on the floor and and the bench press with the board laying across your chest.
Yep, we could and do that as well. I do it more for myself though.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 24, 2012, 04:24:46 PM
yeah, but you can lay in the squat rack and place the pins in a position that allows you to use a bar and the same range of motion as using dumbbells on the floor and and the bench press with the board laying across your chest.
No you can't,  I swear the naivety on getbig never ceases to amaze me. :-\
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2012, 04:29:45 PM
No you can't,  I swear the naivety on getbig never ceases to amaze me. :-\

Lockouts.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 24, 2012, 04:48:43 PM
Lockouts.
Good from the floor or off the pins, dead weight, no contact with the body, board presses still put the weight on your chest, you have to admit it is different.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Nomad on June 24, 2012, 05:02:57 PM
This bench thread now?

Heavy ass incline bench, heavy front db raises, lat db raises, incline db press. Btw coach check out my latest max

Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: bigbadwolfe on June 24, 2012, 05:03:05 PM
Board presses allow you to work different areas of the bench and still have the feeling of weight on the chest. They are great for working past sticking points. As for the chains yes they will help greatly also. I use floor presses with the bar(not DB's) I do rack lockouts, I do board presses, I do band presses and a combo of all of them sometimes. But to answer the original question, yes these will help :)
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 24, 2012, 05:58:09 PM
Board presses allow you to work different areas of the bench and still have the feeling of weight on the chest. They are great for working past sticking points. As for the chains yes they will help greatly also. I use floor presses with the bar(not DB's) I do rack lockouts, I do board presses, I do band presses and a combo of all of them sometimes. But to answer the original question, yes these will help :)
Rectallicker is going to be all over this post!
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2012, 06:07:23 PM
Good from the floor or off the pins, dead weight, no contact with the body, board presses still put the weight on your chest, you have to admit it is different.

So, placing the dead weight on the board, which is laying on your chest, is so much different than the dead weight resting on the pins?

Please explain to me the physiological differences.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 24, 2012, 06:10:20 PM
So, placing the dead weight on the board, which is laying on your chest, is so much different than the dead weight resting on the pins?

Please explain to me the physiological differences.
Don't try your psychological bullshit with me, twink. :-*
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2012, 06:11:49 PM
Don't try your psychological bullshit with me, twink. :-*

I said PHYSIOLOGICAL, not PSYCHOLOGICAL!!

But seriously, it doesn't seem there would be much of a difference between a bar resting on a board, which is laying on your chest, as opposed to the bar resting on a set of pins. I understand training is a science but you can also look to deep into training techniques as well.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Marty Champions on June 24, 2012, 06:12:34 PM
coach nice trolling

pushing a weight at any range of motion long or short will do something to stress the muscles bros
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 24, 2012, 06:15:13 PM
I said PHYSIOLOGICAL, not PSYCHOLOGICAL!!

But seriously, it doesn't seem there would be much of a difference between a bar resting on a board, which is laying on your chest, as opposed to the bar resting on a set of pins. I understand training is a science but you can also look to deep into training techniques as well.
Did you watch the videos? The board press is touch and go, the stress of the weight is constant on your body, using pins the stress of the weight transfers to the pins and off your muscles and you have to explode to push the next rep.........gezzus, do you guys just get your training ideas from Flex magazine or what?  ::)
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2012, 06:18:42 PM
Did you watch the videos? The board press is touch and go, the stress of the weight is constant on your body, using pins the stress of the weight transfers to the pins and off your muscles and you have to explode to push the next rep.........gezzus, do you guys just get your training ideas from Flex magazine or what?  ::)

Actually, no, I don't. All my experience comes from trial and error and a guy I used to train with who used to compete.

Perhaps its just a different style of training, as I never incorporated this type of training into my regimen.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: haider on June 24, 2012, 06:19:07 PM
I said PHYSIOLOGICAL, not PSYCHOLOGICAL!!

But seriously, it doesn't seem there would be much of a difference between a bar resting on a board, which is laying on your chest, as opposed to the bar resting on a set of pins. I understand training is a science but you can also look to deep into training techniques as well.
im not a fat powerlifter but here's my guess:
-even slight differences in exercises allow you to rotate through exercises in 2-3 week rotations to avoid overtraining
-benching with a board feels more like a real bench because you are resting the weight on the body
-It doesn't require setting up in a cage which can be time consuming
-It allows better control of the range of motion, whereas pins in a power rack are fixed in place
-It's another way you can piss of Coach by doubting its effectiveness
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: hardgainerj on June 24, 2012, 06:20:43 PM
coach nice trolling

pushing a weight at any range of motion long or short will do something to stress the muscles bros
its all about that mid chest development ::)
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2012, 06:22:35 PM
im not a fat powerlifter but here's my guess:
-even slight differences in exercises allow you to rotate through exercises in 2-3 week rotations to avoid overtraining
-benching with a board feels more like a real bench because you are resting the weight on the body
-It doesn't require setting up in a cage which can be time consuming
-It allows better control of the range of motion, whereas pins in a power rack are fixed in place
-It's another way you can piss of Coach by doubting its effectiveness

I LOLed!! A definite motivation for all my questions  ;D ;D  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: OTHstrong on June 24, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
What is the point of these threads?..... I know,... so you guys can pick fights..  ;D

Anyway please proceed , this is funny as fuck 8)
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: haider on June 24, 2012, 06:25:27 PM
I LOLed!! A definite motivation for all my questions  ;D ;D  ;D ;D
lol give the guy a break
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2012, 06:37:35 PM
lol give the guy a break

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Natural Man on June 24, 2012, 06:49:29 PM
hahaha you dumbfucks trying to make all of this sound intellectual is priceless.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 24, 2012, 06:52:57 PM
hahaha you dumbfucks trying to make all of this sound intellectual is priceless.
I often wonder if you even workout ???
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: reclifter on June 24, 2012, 07:02:27 PM
I'm not sure, maybe rectum licker can help with some "advices"...Hahaha!











Coach, you now have started multiple threads just to defend your hokus-pokus methods, that may work, but are entirely spectacles, which I have pointed out, along with others.

I'm all for screwing around on here, but multiple threads all because of me?

I'm truly not honored, it's almost sad.

Tell us, what is it you want to prove?
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: reclifter on June 24, 2012, 07:06:23 PM
hahaha you dumbfucks trying to make all of this sound intellectual is priceless.

I agree. It's comical really.

Alhough some need to confuse potential clients, which I can't fault.


Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2012, 08:26:05 PM
Coach, you now have started multiple threads just to defend your hokus-pokus methods, that may work, but are entirely spectacles, which I have pointed out, along with others.

I'm all for screwing around on here, but multiple threads all because of me?

I'm truly not honored, it's almost sad.

Tell us, what is it you want to prove?

1. I didn't start the first thread. I believe Hulkatron did. After you chimed in with your idiocy I started another thread just to duck you and when you were stupid enough to fall for that I started this one just to prove I bait your gay ass into this one.

End result......OBama still sucks communist dick.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: SF1900 on June 24, 2012, 08:33:55 PM
I think the lifting that IFBB professional bodybuilder do on a daily basis is comical and not scientific at all.

However, IFBB bodybuilders aside, there is definitely a science behind weightlifting, particularly with Olympic athletes, etc.  I mean, well known universities such as University of Kentucky, Univ of Alabama, Kent State U, Ball State U, etc, all have graduate degrees in exercise physiology and kinesiology. Not to mention the number of peer reviewed journals dedicated to exercise physiology and nutrition:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayJournal?jid=CEP

There are people who devote their lives to researching this stuff.

I am not too sure how scientific Coaches approach is. But there are definitely people out there who know their shit when it comes to this stuff.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2012, 09:23:03 PM
I think the lifting that IFBB professional bodybuilder do on a daily basis is comical and not scientific at all.

However, IFBB bodybuilders aside, there is definitely a science behind weightlifting, particularly with Olympic athletes, etc.  I mean, well known universities such as University of Kentucky, Univ of Alabama, Kent State U, Ball State U, etc, all have graduate degrees in exercise physiology and kinesiology. Not to mention the number of peer reviewed journals dedicated to exercise physiology and nutrition:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayJournal?jid=CEP

There are people who devote their lives to researching this stuff.

I am not too sure how scientific Coaches approach is. But there are definitely people out there who know their shit when it comes to this stuff.

The majority of my training with athletes comes from pretty extensive research from people and strength and conditioning coaches that I deem experts in the field. Every year for the past 10 + years I have spent anywhere from $10-15k per year to travel and spend weeks on end to learn from these people along with reading, DVD's, conventions, symposiums and seminars, case studies and anything else that I feel is worth while to help my athletes. This includes, reading by Dr. Verkhoshansky and Medvedyev and actually meeting with Dr. Michael Yessis.

I am not only a frequent visitor of Cal State Fullerton but am actually a participant in the Kineseology Dept  (#1 in the country at last check) on occasion. My coaches and interns were and are currently in the Fullerton program. I was 6mos from getting my degree when I fucked up and dropped out due to personal situations, that being said even if I would have graduated with a degree, it would have NEVER NEVER equaled what I've learned in the last 28 years. Today....I STILL spend more money on education that most ever will because shit changes everyday and you HAVE to keep up!

BTW, SAVE THIS POST BECAUSE I'M NOT WRITING THIS AGAIN. 1000 times in the last 10 years is plenty.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Big N on June 24, 2012, 09:29:38 PM
hahaha you dumbfucks trying to make all of this sound intellectual is priceless.

lol
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 24, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
hahaha you dumbfucks trying to make all of this sound intellectual is priceless.

You clearly have your head up rectum fillers ass.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: reclifter on June 25, 2012, 01:04:15 AM
The majority of my training with athletes comes from pretty extensive research from people and strength and conditioning coaches that I deem experts in the field. Every year for the past 10 + years I have spent anywhere from $10-15k per year to travel and spend weeks on end to learn from these people along with reading, DVD's, conventions, symposiums and seminars, case studies and anything else that I feel is worth while to help my athletes. This includes, reading by Dr. Verkhoshansky and Medvedyev and actually meeting with Dr. Michael Yessis.

I am not only a frequent visitor of Cal State Fullerton but am actually a participant in the Kineseology Dept  (#1 in the country at last check) on occasion. My coaches and interns were and are currently in the Fullerton program. I was 6mos from getting my degree when I fucked up and dropped out due to personal situations, that being said even if I would have graduated with a degree, it would have NEVER NEVER equaled what I've learned in the last 28 years. Today....I STILL spend more money on education that most ever will because shit changes everyday and you HAVE to keep up!

BTW, SAVE THIS POST BECAUSE I'M NOT WRITING THIS AGAIN. 1000 times in the last 10 years is plenty.

You tell a good story....

You spend a lot of money to learn how to use a towel for to increase grip strength or do chest presses on the ground?

With all that money and education, you still can't come up with an exercise to grow taller?

Must suck.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Loc on June 25, 2012, 01:56:46 AM
u guys are idiots, instead of all that  unecessary crap just up ur steroid doses, and u will get stronger.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: hardgainerj on June 25, 2012, 07:41:14 AM
Coach, you now have started multiple threads just to defend your hokus-pokus methods,
the thing is theyre are not his methods, and are endorsed by known SC coaches
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Thespritz0 on June 25, 2012, 09:18:28 AM
besides, strong bench press dont mean good looking pecs by default.

and seriously, take 2 anadrol, 10dbols and 4 halos and then go bench and see how you get stronger.
^^
TRUTH on this... you'll be just playing with the weights at that point- well, at least 1-2 weeks into that cycle!!!!!
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 25, 2012, 09:20:51 AM
besides, strong bench press dont mean good looking pecs by default.

and seriously, take 2 anadrol, 10dbols and 4 halos and then go bench and see how you get stronger.
So you don't think any powerlifter has ever thought of that?  ;)
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: G_Thang on June 25, 2012, 09:25:31 AM
So you don't think any powerlifter has ever thought of that?  ;)

how much can you bench when you do angel dust, convict?
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 25, 2012, 09:28:00 AM
how much can you bench when you do angel dust, convict?
Enough to push your moms fat mexican ass off me when I'm done with her.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: G_Thang on June 25, 2012, 09:46:11 AM
Enough to push your moms fat mexican ass off me when I'm done with her.

 ;D
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i thought i had a photo of you wearing her shoes, dad.

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Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Nomad on June 25, 2012, 10:00:34 AM
hahaha you dumbfucks trying to make all of this sound intellectual is priceless.

fagg.got

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Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 25, 2012, 10:10:34 AM
the thing is theyre are not his methods, and are endorsed by known SC coaches

It's my programming with the known exercises. I don't cut and paste ANYONE'S program.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 25, 2012, 10:13:36 AM
besides, strong bench press dont mean good looking pecs by default.

and seriously, take 2 anadrol, 10dbols and 4 halos and then go bench and see how you get stronger.

Not true. I can take a pic of our records board. These kids are 18 and under with one that weighs 195 the other 205lbs with respective 515 and 520lb deadlifts. Methods work without the use of gear.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: reclifter on June 25, 2012, 11:29:09 AM
It's my programming with the known exercises. I don't cut and paste ANYONE'S program.

Thank you coach for verifying and admitting that you have an "innovative twist" to your methods.

This is what I have been saying all along.

Can't do exactly as everyone else does, or you wouldn't be able to sell a service. I get it.


Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 25, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
Thank you coach for verifying and admitting that you have an "innovative twist" to your methods.

This is what I have been saying all along.

Can't do exactly as everyone else does, or you wouldn't be able to sell a service. I get it.



LMFAO....rectallicker just doesn't stop no matter how badly or often he gets embarrassed.  ;D
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 25, 2012, 11:57:50 AM
Thank you coach for verifying and admitting that you have an "innovative twist" to your methods.

This is what I have been saying all along.

Can't do exactly as everyone else does, or you wouldn't be able to sell a service. I get it.




Trolling's over sister. I think I speak for all of us when I say your bullshit got old real quick. Now go away.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: bigmc on June 25, 2012, 11:58:37 AM
analflickers posts are car crash tv
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 25, 2012, 12:19:02 PM
analflickers posts are car crash tv
Clearly.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: reclifter on June 25, 2012, 12:44:56 PM
Trolling's over sister. I think I speak for all of us when I say your bullshit got old real quick. Now go away.

You do not speak for everyone, as many see through your B.S. as shown in the MULTIPLE threads you started.

Tell me, if you have so many clients, and are so busy, how do you spend the majority of 10 years, daily at that, on getbig?

Just curious. Something doesn't add up.

Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: reclifter on June 25, 2012, 12:46:57 PM
Clearly.

And it wouldn't stick...

LOL.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: POB on June 25, 2012, 06:48:01 PM
Bring your triceps up and your bench will go up
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: reclifter on June 25, 2012, 07:33:21 PM
Bring your triceps up and your bench will go up

Yes, great method, but unfortunately, people are not willing to continue to pay money week after week for advice like that.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 25, 2012, 08:18:49 PM
Rectallicker still obsessed with Coach's superior strength training knowledge.
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: reclifter on June 25, 2012, 08:29:35 PM
Rectallicker still obsessed with Coach's superior strength training knowledg

e.

Really, how so?

Does that mean you are obsessed with me?

If not, please clarify.

Am I clear?


Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: chaos on June 25, 2012, 08:30:54 PM
Really, how so?

Does that mean you are obsessed with me?

If not, please clarify.

Am I clear?



I admit it.....I am quite obsessed with the retarded. :-[
Title: Re: Are these good exercises to do to help increase one's bench?
Post by: reclifter on June 26, 2012, 12:21:22 AM

I admit it.....I am quite obsessed with the retarded. :-[

Takes one to know one, huh?

Maybe that's why we seem to not see agree on anything.

It's definitely all clear now.