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Title: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 01, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
 8)

Barbells range from 90-150lbs, Old school kettlebells, old school bench is made from bullet proof iron piping!

Note; instagram is awesome. lol
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 01, 2012, 03:55:43 PM
8)

Barbells range from 90-150lbs, Old school kettlebells, old school bench is made from bullet proof iron piping!

Note; instagram is awesome. lol


Just curious, and not trolling here.

Is there a reason why you ordered these instead of more modern, rubber molded,preloaded barbells and dumbells?

The reason I ask, is I have always found that this style constantly needs to be checked for loose collars. Not to mention, they ding up the floors and surrounding equipment.

Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 01, 2012, 04:03:51 PM
I feel some squat thrusts coming on!
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 01, 2012, 04:09:08 PM
I feel some squat thrusts coming on!
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 01, 2012, 04:20:18 PM
I feel some squat thrusts coming on!

I say Fidious, great day for some squat thrusts!
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Ursus on July 01, 2012, 04:23:34 PM
Family Guy!
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: wes on July 01, 2012, 04:45:59 PM
Cool looking barbells Joe.
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Post by: Borracho on July 01, 2012, 04:47:41 PM
Cool looking barbells Joe.

x2
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Post by: flipper5470 on July 01, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
x3..get some big ass wooden clubs next... :)
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: wes on July 01, 2012, 04:52:41 PM
x3..get some big ass wooden clubs next... :)
X 2  :D
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Borracho on July 01, 2012, 04:54:28 PM
X 2  :D

x3 and while you're at it get yourself a typewriter
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 01, 2012, 06:51:04 PM
x3 and while you're at it get yourself a typewriter

Lol
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: HTexan on July 01, 2012, 07:11:02 PM
Just curious, and not trolling here.

Is there a reason why you ordered these instead of more modern, rubber molded,preloaded barbells and dumbells?

The reason I ask, is I have always found that this style constantly needs to be checked for loose collars. Not to mention, they ding up the floors and surrounding equipment.


He likes it because older stuff was make to suit shorter people.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 01, 2012, 10:38:07 PM
x3..get some big ass wooden clubs next... :)

Indian Clubs 8)
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on July 01, 2012, 10:44:05 PM
(http://www.kettlebells.com.au/store/skin1/images/NEW-weightlifting-hist-2.gif)(http://www.gymcompany.co.uk/_uploads/blog/Strongman.jpg)
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: SF1900 on July 01, 2012, 10:46:57 PM
should have ordered some Basil equipment

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395976.0;attach=452129;image)
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 01, 2012, 10:50:32 PM
should have ordered some Basil equipment

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395976.0;attach=452129;image)

Looks difficult, I don't think my clients could handle such intensity. They sure are shiny tho!
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: SF1900 on July 01, 2012, 10:56:33 PM
Looks difficult, I don't think my clients could handle such intensity. They sure are shiny tho!

I dont even know what that machine is supposed to do  :-\
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Butterbean on July 02, 2012, 06:48:59 AM
(http://www.kettlebells.com.au/store/skin1/images/NEW-weightlifting-hist-2.gif)(http://www.gymcompany.co.uk/_uploads/blog/Strongman.jpg)

I was going to say now Joe needs to grow a handle bar mustache and train in a onesie.



I dont even know what that machine is supposed to do  :-\

It think you fight aliens with it.


Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: CalvinH on July 02, 2012, 06:52:40 AM
8)

Barbells range from 90-150lbs, Old school kettlebells, old school bench is made from bullet proof iron piping!

Note; instagram is awesome. lol



Dog is lazy and slacking >:(
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: gracie bjj on July 02, 2012, 07:14:24 AM
this is hardcore also ;)

Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: jpm101 on July 02, 2012, 08:01:03 AM
Nice old school stuff.

Been my experience that some guy's back away from equipment that doesn't look familiar to them. Takes time to get use to, if at all, I guess.  

How long are those bars? If collars always come loose, drill a hole in front of collars for a set pin to slide through. To the extreme, weld a small tack on the collars to the bar. A couple of out members were welders, and help build a lot of our basic equipment.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 02, 2012, 08:13:15 AM
should have ordered some Basil equipment

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395976.0;attach=452129;image)

If he orders the equipment, does it come with the limited edition Basilie as well?

"1"
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: funk51 on July 02, 2012, 09:06:53 AM
8)

Barbells range from 90-150lbs, Old school kettlebells, old school bench is made from bullet proof iron piping!

Note; instagram is awesome. lol

where did you get this stuff? looks ancient sig klein old.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Stark on July 02, 2012, 09:14:12 AM
8)

Barbells range from 90-150lbs, Old school kettlebells, old school bench is made from bullet proof iron piping!

Note; instagram is awesome. lol


Coach if you ever come to Dublin *don't know why you would - You have to have a look at the Hercules Gym, Weigtlifting club exists since 1935 or so - has equipment from 1835 like a dip bar of some sort - its fucking amazing - best gym ever.

I think what you do is extremly clever, I believe with more and more gyms making life harder for the serious lifters they will come right back to the "hardcore" gyms and as far as I know don't even mind paying a lot more as long as they have like minded people around them.

You need a hot receptionist - some chick that is a nympo and doesn't mind flirting all day long
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: D_1000 on July 02, 2012, 09:28:35 AM
(http://www.gymcompany.co.uk/_uploads/blog/Strongman.jpg)

Hitler looking jacked.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: ritch on July 02, 2012, 11:04:39 AM
this is hardcore also ;)



Wonderful way to injure yourself training in the cold like that!
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 02, 2012, 12:41:09 PM
Nice old school stuff.

Been my experience that some guy's back away from equipment that doesn't look familiar to them. Takes time to get use to, if at all, I guess.  

How long are those bars? If collars always come loose, drill a hole in front of collars for a set pin to slide through. To the extreme, weld a small tack on the collars to the bar. A couple of out members were welders, and help build a lot of our basic equipment.

Coach has backed away from my question...maybe you can answer?

What is the benefit of using this old equipment?
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: cephissus on July 02, 2012, 01:02:35 PM
Coach if you ever come to Dublin *don't know why you would - You have to have a look at the Hercules Gym, Weigtlifting club exists since 1935 or so - has equipment from 1835 like a dip bar of some sort - its fucking amazing - best gym ever.

I think what you do is extremly clever, I believe with more and more gyms making life harder for the serious lifters they will come right back to the "hardcore" gyms and as far as I know don't even mind paying a lot more as long as they have like minded people around them.

You need a hot receptionist - some chick that is a nympo and doesn't mind flirting all day long

An essential part of any gym.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2012, 10:16:59 PM
Coach has backed away from my question...maybe you can answer?

What is the benefit of using this old equipment?

Stfu troll. Who said it was being used? You? Do you even train? Seriously? And why did you change your name......again?
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 02, 2012, 11:06:56 PM
Stfu troll. Who said it was being used? You? Do you even train? Seriously? And why did you change your name......again?

I was being nice.  Look back at the top of the thread...no need to be an ass, Joe.

So, tell us, why do you have them in your gym?

Are they seriously for decoration?


Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2012, 11:10:55 PM
I was being nice.  Look back at the top of the thread...no need to be an ass, Joe.

So, tell us, why do you have them in your gym?

Are they seriously for decoration?




I like vintage.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 02, 2012, 11:13:13 PM
I like vintage.


Are they used for strength or performance training at all at your gym?
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2012, 11:15:59 PM
Are they used for strength or performance training at all at your gym?

Just go them.in yesterday regardless, o would choose them.over machines.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 03, 2012, 12:09:57 AM
Just go them.in yesterday regardless, o would choose them.over machines.

Why are you hesitant to answer?

So you are planning on using them?
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Stark on July 03, 2012, 01:16:12 AM
Stfu troll. Who said it was being used? You? Do you even train? Seriously? And why did you change your name......again?

Wow Joe - are we a little tense today ?
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Post by: gracie bjj on July 03, 2012, 06:48:46 AM
i like old school equipment,  i started out training very basic and always liked it. this is my perfect gym

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Post by: funk51 on July 03, 2012, 06:51:17 AM
i like old school equipment,  i started out training very basic and always liked it. this is my perfect gym


gold's gym in the old days like the gym mascot guarding the door.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: funk51 on July 03, 2012, 06:52:16 AM
Hitler looking jacked.
actually herman goerner.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2012, 07:12:39 AM
Coach has backed away from my question...maybe you can answer?

What is the benefit of using this old equipment?


Weight is weight....doesn't really make a difference.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 03, 2012, 08:41:01 AM

Weight is weight....doesn't really make a difference.

I agree, lbs. are lbs.

Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Donny on July 03, 2012, 08:53:15 AM
Hitler looking jacked.
Got to be "STARK" ::)
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: jpm101 on July 03, 2012, 09:42:05 AM
The older BB's didn't have a revolving bar, like Olympic bar's now days, so the weight lifted didn't always go smooth and could be awkward at first. They were very stiff, or dead is another term. Some didn't have any knuckling either. The spring of the Olympic bar (a live bar) usually could produce 20 to 30 more lbs on any lift.

Those globes could be shot loaded (don't know about the coaches, in the pics..might be solid cast) and hard to balance, because both sides were not always the same weight. Going with the non revolving bar and uneven weight, they presented a challenge when first using them. Back then all bar/DB's were not always made to any common standard, so different casting could be way off in actual weight. Different bar/DB thickness also. (exercise BB/DB's from China & India are almost never true weight or made that well..though China can make excellent Olympic lifting equipment)

Any advantage to using old style equipment, would be that more focus on the lift is more important and also the technique  (lifting style)  use. Actually it's kind of fun to play around with this old stuff, and it certainly brings new challenges to lifting. Finding, that maybe your not a cool , or strong,as you though you.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: ritch on July 03, 2012, 09:47:48 AM

Weight is weight....doesn't really make a difference.

no way. Some gyms have shitty ass dumbells that rattle and stuff. They really feel heavier than they are. I picked up a pair of 80's for dumbell shoulder presses when not at my usual gym (part of my warm up) and they felt real heavy.

Take a nice iron grip dumbell, nice solid handle, one piece dumbell and the difference is night and day.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2012, 09:53:11 AM
no way. Some gyms have shitty ass dumbells that rattle and stuff. They really feel heavier than they are. I picked up a pair of 80's for dumbell shoulder presses when not at my usual gym (part of my warm up) and they felt real heavy.

Take a nice iron grip dumbell, nice solid handle, one piece dumbell and the difference is night and day.



As long as they stay together, they are good to go. 
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Donny on July 03, 2012, 09:54:21 AM
The older BB's didn't have a revolving bar, like Olympic bar's now days, so the weight lifted didn't always go smooth and could be awkward at first. They were very stiff, or dead is another term. Some didn't have any knuckling either. The spring of the Olympic bar (a live bar) usually could produce 20 to 30 more lbs on any lift.

Those globes could be shot loaded (don't know about the coaches, in the pics..might be solid cast) and hard to balance, because both sides were not always the same weight. Going with the non revolving bar and uneven weight, they presented a challenge when first using them. Back then all bar/DB's were not always made to any common standard, so different casting could be way off in actual weight. Different bar/DB thickness also. (exercise BB/DB's from China & India are almost never true weight or made that well..though China can make excellent Olympic lifting equipment)

Any advantage to using old style equipment, would be that more focus on the lift is more important and also the technique  (lifting style)  use. Actually it's kind of fun to play around with this old stuff, and it certainly brings new challenges to lifting. Finding, that maybe your not a cool , or strong,as you though you.
you should write your thoughts and training observations in a book.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Donny on July 03, 2012, 09:56:08 AM


As long as they stay together, they are good to go. 
Weight is weight. your muscles adapt to resistance
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 03, 2012, 11:13:31 AM
The older BB's didn't have a revolving bar, like Olympic bar's now days, so the weight lifted didn't always go smooth and could be awkward at first. They were very stiff, or dead is another term. Some didn't have any knuckling either. The spring of the Olympic bar (a live bar) usually could produce 20 to 30 more lbs on any lift.

Those globes could be shot loaded (don't know about the coaches, in the pics..might be solid cast) and hard to balance, because both sides were not always the same weight. Going with the non revolving bar and uneven weight, they presented a challenge when first using them. Back then all bar/DB's were not always made to any common standard, so different casting could be way off in actual weight. Different bar/DB thickness also. (exercise BB/DB's from China & India are almost never true weight or made that well..though China can make excellent Olympic lifting equipment)

Any advantage to using old style equipment, would be that more focus on the lift is more important and also the technique  (lifting style)  use. Actually it's kind of fun to play around with this old stuff, and it certainly brings new challenges to lifting. Finding, that maybe your not a cool , or strong,as you though you.

Do you have a source for any of this?

I would like to read further.

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Post by: Powerlift66 on July 03, 2012, 11:18:20 AM
Coach, were'd you get those, and what make / brand are they? (The globe bells).

(I have a bunch of vintage globes, Jackson, Milo, etc)..
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Post by: Nails on July 03, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
Farmers Walk



(http://fightnews.com/Boxing/20100602timo002.jpg)
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 03, 2012, 11:27:37 AM


As long as they stay together, they are good to go. 

What about machines?

Weight is weight, right?
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 03, 2012, 12:52:38 PM
What about machines?

Weight is weight, right?

What about machines? Are you saying that 100lbs on the bar is the same as 100lbs on a machine that has multiple pulleys and cable? Are you saying that if I did a bench press on a machine that I would recruit the same motor units as I were to bench on say a chest press machine? Are you saying 405 on regular free weight bench press is the same as 405 on a smith machine ? If thats what you're saying can you come up with some evidence or case study to prove otherwise?
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 03, 2012, 01:17:25 PM
What about machines? Are you saying that 100lbs on the bar is the same as 100lbs on a machine that has multiple pulleys and cable? Are you saying that if I did a bench press on a machine that I would recruit the same motor units as I were to bench on say a chest press machine? Are you saying 405 on regular free weight bench press is the same as 405 on a smith machine ? If thats what you're saying can you come up with some evidence or case study to prove otherwise?

Joseph, I was replying to Vince.

Now, please answer my question that I asked numerous times in this thread.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 03, 2012, 01:40:46 PM
Stfu troll. Who said it was being used? You? Do you even train? Seriously? And why did you change your name......again?

Joe, pleas tell us...

Are these vintage weights one more tool you use to make your gym and techniques appear complicated and different. Especially to the kids?

Am I right?

Is this why you refuse to answer me?
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: orion on July 03, 2012, 02:17:35 PM
8)

 old school bench is made from bullet proof iron piping!

 

Do you get a lot of gunfire in your gym? ;D
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 03, 2012, 02:28:29 PM
Do you get a lot of gunfire in your gym? ;D

Sure sounds cool though.

Reality is they are heavy, clumsy, and awkward.

There is a reason they are no longer made that way, but hey, it helps Joe sell his services.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Ursus on July 03, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
i like old school equipment,  i started out training very basic and always liked it. this is my perfect gym



Pretty much like my gym except tidier.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Schmoff on July 03, 2012, 04:13:41 PM
coach is nostalgic
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2012, 04:46:31 PM
What about machines?

Weight is weight, right?


depends on the machine but the thing is that you have train every bodypart with a barbell and dumbbell set very inexpensively where-as a Basile type machine would cost thousands of dollars, take up space, and train only one bodypart....if hardly at all


Free weights reign supreme, they've built athletes for centuries, and there's no complicated shit to deal with.  You pick it up and you curl it, push it, or pull it
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Powerlift66 on July 03, 2012, 06:16:02 PM
Machines are OK, but you spend your entire workout sitting on your ass. (Quote by Iron Mike BonDurant).
In older age I guess Ill get a bowflex, cause at 46 and 33 years of lifting, I'm staring to fall apart...

Lift iron until you cant move, then get into correction exercises...
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 03, 2012, 07:57:16 PM

depends on the machine but the thing is that you have train every bodypart with a barbell and dumbbell set very inexpensively where-as a Basile type machine would cost thousands of dollars, take up space, and train only one bodypart....if hardly at all


Free weights reign supreme, they've built athletes for centuries, and there's no complicated shit to deal with.  You pick it up and you curl it, push it, or pull it

I agree.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: chaos on July 03, 2012, 08:07:25 PM
Farmers Walk



(http://fightnews.com/Boxing/20100602timo002.jpg)
Nzmm with a hot date in this thread.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 04, 2012, 08:39:38 AM
Joe, pleas tell us...

Are these vintage weights one more tool you use to make your gym and techniques appear complicated and different. Especially to the kids?

Am I right?

Is this why you refuse to answer me?


I like vintage, they probably won't use them for liability purposes. You seem to not understand even by trolling me with this line of questioning that I get better results out my little gym that 99.5% of the people who go to 100 sq ft "box" gyms. It's not the equipment, it's knowing how to use the equipment. Lets keep this going.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 04, 2012, 08:41:36 AM
Sure sounds cool though.

Reality is they are heavy, clumsy, and awkward.

There is a reason they are no longer made that way, but hey, it helps Joe sell his services.

Yes..because we all know that lifting heavy things in a gym is bad.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: Big N on July 04, 2012, 08:43:54 AM
8)

Barbells range from 90-150lbs, Old school kettlebells, old school bench is made from bullet proof iron piping!

Note; instagram is awesome. lol


I'd like to stop by one day. Please let me know when you're getting this piece of equipment first.

- Thanks
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: chaos on July 04, 2012, 08:48:56 AM
I'd like to stop by one day. Please let me know when you're getting this piece of equipment first.

- Thanks
Yeah we all wanted to know about your little weenie issue. :-X
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: reclifter on July 04, 2012, 08:53:00 AM
I like vintage, they probably won't use them for liability purposes. You seem to not understand even by trolling me with this line of questioning that I get better results out my little gym that 99.5% of the people who go to 100 sq ft "box" gyms. It's not the equipment, it's knowing how to use the equipment. Lets keep this going.

Ok, thank you for the honest answer. Serious.

I agree with your thoughts on box gyms.

Happy 4th! Enjoy the day!
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: jpm101 on July 04, 2012, 08:57:13 AM
Weight may be weight, but it's the leverage required to lift/move any given weight. Possible  that this is the difference between a exercise "machine" and the common BB/DB. Also lifting a weight through air, as dips & chins, set in motion another leverage example.

When lifting old style globe weights, I found  the looser a grip the better the bar could be handled. Too tight a grip  puts undo stress on the wrist/forearms/elbows. Just my view, that's all.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: nkhp on July 04, 2012, 09:41:40 AM
Farmers Walk



(http://fightnews.com/Boxing/20100602timo002.jpg)

Thats not the farmers walk......... its the farmers fuck :D
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 04, 2012, 11:58:49 AM
Coach, when are you going to rent the storage unit next door so that you can expand?







 ;D   The new/old stuff looks cool.
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: arce1988 on July 04, 2012, 02:39:31 PM
  O S
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: The Ugly on July 04, 2012, 02:41:04 PM
Yes..because we all know that lifting heavy things in a gym is bad.

Fireworks in HB tonight, Coach?
Title: Re: Got some cool old school equipment in today!
Post by: King Shizzo on July 04, 2012, 02:41:30 PM

depends on the machine but the thing is that you have train every bodypart with a barbell and dumbbell set very inexpensively where-as a Basile type machine would cost thousands of dollars, take up space, and train only one bodypart....if hardly at all


Free weights reign supreme, they've built athletes for centuries, and there's no complicated shit to deal with.  You pick it up and you curl it, push it, or pull it
Thank you, Plato.