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Title: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 02, 2012, 05:04:44 PM
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Skip8282 on July 02, 2012, 05:21:28 PM
I'm glad.  Out where I live they've dropped to $3.19.

But in DC, they were still at $3.59.   :P
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Freeborn126 on July 02, 2012, 05:37:19 PM
How are they falling? Gas was 1.89 when obama took over, $3 a gallon is considered a dem victory now?  Put a frog in a pot and slowly bring it to a boil....
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 02, 2012, 05:52:32 PM
How are they falling? Gas was 1.89 when obama took over, $3 a gallon is considered a dem victory now?  Put a frog in a pot and slowly bring it to a boil....

watch the video again it's not about the price its about they're falling and nothing is said but when they were going up it was the talking point
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: OzmO on July 02, 2012, 05:57:06 PM
How are they falling? Gas was 1.89 when obama took over, $3 a gallon is considered a dem victory now?  Put a frog in a pot and slowly bring it to a boil....

It was 3+ here when OB took over, iTs 3.55 now
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2012, 06:50:40 PM

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That is because the economy is collapsing dipshit.   See the manufacturing number today you dope? 
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: GigantorX on July 02, 2012, 06:52:35 PM
How many times have we gone over this?

Economy heads further into the crapper, demand contracts and oil prices drop.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Fury on July 02, 2012, 06:53:45 PM
Still $3.70 here. Let's celebrate!

Retard.  ::)
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2012, 06:56:01 PM
Still $3.70 here. Let's celebrate!

Retard.  ::)

3.75 in NYC. 
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 02, 2012, 07:00:54 PM

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That is because the economy is collapsing dipshit.   See the manufacturing number today you dope? 

put your slim jim down and watch the video again because your missing the point,the pres has no control of the price of gas. so when the prices were going up the repubs should have been giving obama credit because the economy was getting better
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2012, 07:03:40 PM
put your slim jim down and watch the video again because your missing the point,the pres has no control of the price of gas. so when the prices were going up the repubs should have been giving obama credit because the economy was getting better

Go back to bed.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Fury on July 02, 2012, 07:04:45 PM
Go back to bed.

Now, now, he ate all his peas at dinner so mommy is letting him stay up past his 9 PM bedtime today.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: MCWAY on July 02, 2012, 07:06:24 PM
What do you expect from Martin Bashir and the red-headed stepchild of cable news, also home of "Thrill-Up-My-Leg" Chris Matthews?

When gas prices were going up, all we heard was Obama whine about how powerless he was to do anything about it. "There's no silver bullet!", remember?

From $4/gallon to $3.50/gallon....break out the Cristal!!!
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 02, 2012, 07:10:40 PM
Now, now, he ate all his peas at dinner so mommy is letting him stay up past his 9 PM bedtime today.

this coming from the guy that lives with his mother :D :D :D why are you worried about gas prices i hear your mommy brings you to burger king . and congratulations on your promotion to shift leader
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Fury on July 02, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
this coming from the guy that lives with his mother :D :D :D why are you worried about gas prices i hear your mommy brings you to burger king . and congratulations on your promotion to shift leader

I always hear the voice of an 8-year-old in my head when reading your posts.

How long is mommy letting you stay up tonight? Until 11? Hope you're not too tired to remember what is paper and what is plastic at the grocery store tomorrow, Simple Jack.

Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 02, 2012, 08:27:32 PM
I always hear the voice of an 8-year-old in my head when reading your posts.

How long is mommy letting you stay up tonight? Until 11? Hope you're not too tired to remember what is paper and what is plastic at the grocery store tomorrow, Simple Jack.




Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 02, 2012, 09:07:26 PM
Now, now, he ate all his peas at dinner so mommy is letting him stay up past his 9 PM bedtime today.


the intelligence of your posts is actually devolving.....and you still have your mother dancing in your avatar...
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 02, 2012, 09:45:05 PM

the intelligence of your posts is actually devolving.....and you still have your mother dancing in your avatar...

he thinks having his mommy dancing in his avatar makes him look cool in front of the guys on getbig
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2012, 09:54:58 PM

the intelligence of your posts is actually devolving.....and you still have your mother dancing in your avatar...

How much is gas in NYC slave? 
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 02, 2012, 10:18:39 PM
How much is gas in NYC slave? 

gas is ALWAYS high in NYC dummy
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2012, 11:36:20 PM
I predicted this a while ago. Prices would drop when Obama got deeper and deeper into trouble and as the election got closer same with the markets. Just watch, as the election gets closer, the markets will rise, fuel will drop and this self serving SOB will claim credit.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 03, 2012, 01:04:04 AM
I predicted this a while ago. Prices would drop when Obama got deeper and deeper into trouble and as the election got closer same with the markets. Just watch, as the election gets closer, the markets will rise, fuel will drop and this self serving SOB will claim credit.


why not?..he certainly gets the blame from you guys when things go the other way doesn't he?
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 03, 2012, 04:27:42 AM

why not?..he certainly gets the blame from you guys when things go the other way doesn't he?

exactly,that's what this post was about ,it went right over the heads of half on here
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2012, 04:38:22 AM
exactly,that's what this post was about ,it went right over the heads of half on here

he gets blame when he does things intended to make costs rise to fuck us.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 03, 2012, 04:57:53 AM
he gets blame when he does things intended to make costs rise to fuck us.

why don't you go snap into a slim jim
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2012, 05:01:09 AM
why don't you go snap into a slim jim

Do you feel your freedom was worth a piss bag and some gauze pads? 
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 03, 2012, 05:12:20 AM
Do you feel your freedom was worth a piss bag and some gauze pads? 

can you stick with the topic on anything,your on here 24/7 you should be able to keep up  ::)
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2012, 05:20:04 AM
can you stick with the topic on anything,your on here 24/7 you should be able to keep up  ::)

Why are gas prices going down jackass? 
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: blacken700 on July 03, 2012, 05:23:53 AM
Why are gas prices going down jackass? 

let me use repub thinking they went up because of obama,so they go down because of obama.it has to be that simple because the repubs say so :D
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: howardroark on July 03, 2012, 01:29:52 PM
Falling gasoline prices are PROOF of Obama's economic policy working just the way I thought it would: unemployment is higher, underemployment is higher, less people have money, and thus less people buying gasoline translates into lower demand and lower prices.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: OzmO on July 03, 2012, 03:22:42 PM
Falling gasoline prices are PROOF of Obama's economic policy working just the way I thought it would: unemployment is higher, underemployment is higher, less people have money, and thus less people buying gasoline translates into lower demand and lower prices.

??

so when it was $4.39 on highway 5 in California 2 months ago what was happening then?
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 03, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
Falling gasoline prices are PROOF of Obama's economic policy working just the way I thought it would: unemployment is higher, underemployment is higher, less people have money, and thus less people buying gasoline translates into lower demand and lower prices.

holy shit.....you fucking guys are so goddamn annoying...you blame Obama for high gas prices but now that gas is falling, instead of giving Obama credit you guys want to blame him in a negative way....amazing
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2012, 08:06:06 PM
holy shit.....you fucking guys are so goddamn annoying...you blame Obama for high gas prices but now that gas is falling, instead of giving Obama credit you guys want to blame him in a negative way....amazing

The economy is collapsing idiot.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 03, 2012, 08:10:25 PM
The economy is collapsing idiot.

your mind is collapsing
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: chadstallion on July 04, 2012, 08:08:51 AM
ok, so now, according to the right wing crazies..
because gas prices are lower -its obama's FAULT ! [unemployment, yada, yada yada]
ah, perfect logic.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 04, 2012, 08:20:37 AM
ok, so now, according to the right wing crazies..
because gas prices are lower -its obama's FAULT ! [unemployment, yada, yada yada]
ah, perfect logic.

this is why politics is so fucked up in our country right now and the country is heading down the toilet..rhetoric takes precedence over truth
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 04, 2012, 08:24:30 AM
this is why politics is so fucked up in our country right now and the country is heading down the toilet..rhetoric takes precedence over truth

Is the economy collapsing yes or no?
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 04, 2012, 08:26:50 AM
Is the economy collapsing yes or no?
its not collapsing idiot.....come on.....our economy is still growing..just very weakly....is Obama doing a good job of bringing down gas prices???..yes or no
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Shockwave on July 04, 2012, 08:27:41 AM
Technically Howard is right. Gigantorx went over this - lower demand, lower cost.
The economy is turning down again and prices are going down because of it. Notice how the high prices were in the "recovery", and now that shit is looking bleak again, prices are dropping?
Obama may not technically have been responsible for high gas prices, but none of his policies did anything to help IMHO.

Also read something about them shutting down production to switch over to their summer blend a few months back, im sure that contributed to the high prices until they were back to normal production.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: GigantorX on July 04, 2012, 08:38:31 AM
holy shit.....you fucking guys are so goddamn annoying...you blame Obama for high gas prices but now that gas is falling, instead of giving Obama credit you guys want to blame him in a negative way....amazing


Credit for what, exactly? We have been over this. The economy is still stuck in shit and sinking again, thus we have lower oil demand. Prices will spike again when more "Stimulus" is rumored, or QE or Iran or whatever will further devalue the dollar. The fact that the stimulus and QE's etc were total failures and failed to help anyone but major banks, corporations and the top elite doesn't bode well for the upper-middle class and down when these schemes are introduced again. The elites will reap all the benefits while everyone else gets fucked and has to deal with 5 dollar gas. Wonderful.

To give Obama credit for falling gas prices would be to say that his economic/fiscal policies have been such a failure that the economy is still in awful shape and getting worse so there is less demand for oil.

this is why politics is so fucked up in our country right now and the country is heading down the toilet..rhetoric takes precedence over truth
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 04, 2012, 09:09:35 AM

Credit for what, exactly? We have been over this. The economy is still stuck in shit and sinking again, thus we have lower oil demand. Prices will spike again when more "Stimulus" is rumored, or QE or Iran or whatever will further devalue the dollar. The fact that the stimulus and QE's etc were total failures and failed to help anyone but major banks, corporations and the top elite doesn't bode well for the upper-middle class and down when these schemes are introduced again. The elites will reap all the benefits while everyone else gets fucked and has to deal with 5 dollar gas. Wonderful.

To give Obama credit for falling gas prices would be to say that his economic/fiscal policies have been such a failure that the economy is still in awful shape and getting worse so there is less demand for oil.


my point about giving Obama credit for gas prices falling was sarcastic....simply mirroring everyone's take that Obama just had to be the reason for higher gas prices.....so by the twisted thinking on this board, I simply used the same theory....that since gas prices are falling it just must be because of Obama's policies....notice all the twisting and tortured logic in here to try NOT to give Obama credit...now ALL OF A SUDDEN in this thread, since gas prices are falling, we get the arguments that I have been saying for years...THAT THE PRESIDENT AND HIS POLICIES HOLD NO SWAY OVER GAS PRICES.....

wow..amazing

It s a real shame we have so much intellectual dishonesty here

okay...go on the attack now...as always
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: howardroark on July 04, 2012, 11:42:34 AM
??

so when it was $4.39 on highway 5 in California 2 months ago what was happening then?

The bubble economy was staying barely afloat thanks to massive Fed pump priming.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: howardroark on July 04, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
holy shit.....you fucking guys are so goddamn annoying...you blame Obama for high gas prices but now that gas is falling, instead of giving Obama credit you guys want to blame him in a negative way....amazing

Please point me to a specific policy pushed by Obama or the Democrats that has helped increase the supply of gasoline.

Because if you can, then you might have a point. But all Obama has done is restrict the supply of energy, oil, and gasoline. So if supply is restricted, then the only possibility for prices to go down is reduced demand.

This is basic economics here. It shouldn't be causing even a retard such as yourself this much grief.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 04, 2012, 11:46:56 AM
The bubble economy was staying barely afloat thanks to massive Fed pump priming.

I paid 3.85 in nyc today    
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 04, 2012, 11:47:45 AM
haha, I can remember when Bush was being blamed for gas prices being high because he was a "Texas oil man" yet when Odrama got into office the prices continued to rise.  And gas prices ALWAYS dip down in an election year.....look it up turds.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: OzmO on July 04, 2012, 11:49:39 AM
The bubble economy was staying barely afloat thanks to massive Fed pump priming.

So....  sorry, don't quite understand what you mean there.  this was just 2 months ago,well not even that really it was like May 11th
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: howardroark on July 04, 2012, 11:57:37 AM
So....  sorry, don't quite understand what you mean there.  this was just 2 months ago,well not even that really it was like May 11th

Okay:
- Prices were at highs because supply was restricted and demand was slowly growing.
- Prices are falling now because demand is (probably) falling thanks to the economy weakening again. I wouldn't be surprised if we were on the front-end of a recession right now.

The only other possibility is an increase in supply causing falling prices, but that could only be the case in spite of Obama's policies, not because of them.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 04, 2012, 12:00:29 PM
Okay:
- Prices were at highs because supply was restricted and demand was slowly growing.
- Prices are falling now because demand is (probably) falling thanks to the economy weakening again. I wouldn't be surprised if we were on the front-end of a recession right now.

The only other possibility is an increase in supply causing falling prices, but that could only be the case in spite of Obama's policies, not because of them.


Love your posts   
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Skip8282 on July 04, 2012, 06:51:03 PM
my point about giving Obama credit for gas prices falling was sarcastic....simply mirroring everyone's take that Obama just had to be the reason for higher gas prices.....so by the twisted thinking on this board, I simply used the same theory....that since gas prices are falling it just must be because of Obama's policies....notice all the twisting and tortured logic in here to try NOT to give Obama credit...now ALL OF A SUDDEN in this thread, since gas prices are falling, we get the arguments that I have been saying for years...THAT THE PRESIDENT AND HIS POLICIES HOLD NO SWAY OVER GAS PRICES.....

wow..amazing

It s a real shame we have so much intellectual dishonesty here

okay...go on the attack now...as always




How is it you're too damn blind to see you do the same thing in reverse?

When anything good happens, you're on here trumpeting with Obama's cock in your mouth creating posts about Obama kicking 33's ass.

Anything bad and it's ALWAYS somebody or something else's fault...or you just dissappear.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: JBGRAY on July 04, 2012, 07:07:49 PM
Gas prices can skyrocket next week......the only time gas prices will actually matter is the week leading up the election itself.......nothing more.  President have little overall influence on gas prices.  If there is a hiccup in the Middle East, prices will go up, even if supply is uninterrupted......the price goes up due to an anticipation of a foreseeable supply shortage.

According to the GOP, Obama is an emperor with absolute power that affects all things in everyone's daily lives.  ::)
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 04, 2012, 10:18:08 PM
Please point me to a specific policy pushed by Obama or the Democrats that has helped increase the supply of gasoline.

Because if you can, then you might have a point. But all Obama has done is restrict the supply of energy, oil, and gasoline. So if supply is restricted, then the only possibility for prices to go down is reduced demand.

This is basic economics here. It shouldn't be causing even a retard such as yourself this much grief.

answering you is obviously a waste of time..carry on with your dumbness ::)
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 04, 2012, 10:19:37 PM
Okay:
- Prices were at highs because supply was restricted and demand was slowly growing.
- Prices are falling now because demand is (probably) falling thanks to the economy weakening again. I wouldn't be surprised if we were on the front-end of a recession right now.

The only other possibility is an increase in supply causing falling prices, but that could only be the case in spite of Obama's policies, not because of them.

of course this absolutely must be true because you say so right???????
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: GigantorX on July 05, 2012, 06:13:04 AM
??

so when it was $4.39 on highway 5 in California 2 months ago what was happening then?

Regional factors come into play.

-Distance from refineries.
-All manner of taxes.
-Location of the actual gas station.
-Which blend is being used.
-I've read that much of the oil/gas that gets sent to Cali via various pipelines is shipped off to Japan and Asia pacific. I'll try and dig that up.
-Other things...


Some of those are "tack on" things and others have a bigger impact like taxes and such. But the major reason is supply/demand/geopolitics/production policy.

As for the grand oil game, it comes down, in large part, to the final flow rates. Meaning, you can have an "reserve" which is oil that is accessible, of 100 trillion barrels but it is meaningless if you can only pump out 5 mbpd.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 05, 2012, 07:10:29 AM
Regional factors come into play.

-Distance from refineries.
-All manner of taxes.
-Location of the actual gas station.
-Which blend is being used.
-I've read that much of the oil/gas that gets sent to Cali via various pipelines is shipped off to Japan and Asia pacific. I'll try and dig that up.
-Other things...


Some of those are "tack on" things and others have a bigger impact like taxes and such. But the major reason is supply/demand/geopolitics/production policy.

As for the grand oil game, it comes down, in large part, to the final flow rates. Meaning, you can have an "reserve" which is oil that is accessible, of 100 trillion barrels but it is meaningless if you can only pump out 5 mbpd.

very nice...you got through an entire post without blaming the left or Obama...POTUS has no bearing whatsoever on gas prices.....GEOPOLITICS as you put it is more of a key
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: GigantorX on July 05, 2012, 07:28:38 AM
very nice...you got through an entire post without blaming the left or Obama...POTUS has no bearing whatsoever on gas prices.....GEOPOLITICS as you put it is more of a key

Thanks for the thumbs up, but I think I have a good track record of playing straight around here. As for the President having no bearing on gas prices, well, a President and his policies concerning energy exploration/discovery/production etc would play a part. Not nearly as big as Saudi Arabia or other OPEC countries stances, but it would play a role.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120319222816/antfarm/images/3/34/Goodjob.gif)
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: OzmO on July 05, 2012, 07:30:48 AM
Okay:
- Prices were at highs because supply was restricted and demand was slowly growing.
- Prices are falling now because demand is (probably) falling thanks to the economy weakening again. I wouldn't be surprised if we were on the front-end of a recession right now.

The only other possibility is an increase in supply causing falling prices, but that could only be the case in spite of Obama's policies, not because of them.

Who was restricting the supply and how?

Also, typically we use more gas in the summer time versus mid May.  

Don't get me wrong I am not trying to make a case about OB policies causing prices to go down.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: garebear on July 05, 2012, 07:40:01 AM
Gas prices are dropping, and I think I know why.

Obama wants more people to drive so that there will be more accidents.

All part of his plan to destroy America.

Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: GigantorX on July 05, 2012, 07:41:00 AM
Gas prices are dropping, and I think I know why.

Obama wants more people to drive so that there will be more accidents.

All part of his plan to destroy America.



 ;D

You'll be getting a knock on the door from some men in black suits, very soon.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: 240 is Back on July 05, 2012, 07:42:44 AM
Gas prices are dropping, and I think I know why.

Obama wants more people to drive so that there will be more accidents.

All part of his plan to destroy America.



bwahahahaha   destroying america, one fender bender at a time. 
Acorn/SEUI in bed with the Chevy Volt folks.


 I knew it all along.  I predicted this in 1983 but nobody in my 3rd grade class listened.  Who's laughing now?
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 05, 2012, 08:20:40 AM
Thanks for the thumbs up, but I think I have a good track record of playing straight around here. As for the President having no bearing on gas prices, well, a President and his policies concerning energy exploration/discovery/production etc would play a part. Not nearly as big as Saudi Arabia or other OPEC countries stances, but it would play a role.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120319222816/antfarm/images/3/34/Goodjob.gif)


all that is probably worth maybe 3 cents a gallon ;)
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: whork on July 05, 2012, 08:36:00 AM
Gas prices are dropping, and I think I know why.

Obama wants more people to drive so that there will be more accidents.

All part of his plan to destroy America.



 :D
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: chadstallion on July 05, 2012, 09:05:55 AM
I paid 3.85 in nyc today    
3.13 in dallas.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: chadstallion on July 05, 2012, 09:06:37 AM
Gas prices are dropping, and I think I know why.

Obama wants more people to drive so that there will be more accidents.

All part of his plan to destroy America.


YES!
more accidents; more people having to use health insurance!
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 05, 2012, 09:10:12 AM
Gas prices are dropping, and I think I know why.

Obama wants more people to drive so that there will be more accidents.

All part of his plan to destroy America.



you know...you could really have a future in political commentary if you gave it half a shot..good job  :D
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: OzmO on July 05, 2012, 10:30:59 AM
Regional factors come into play.

-Distance from refineries.
-All manner of taxes.
-Location of the actual gas station.
-Which blend is being used.
-I've read that much of the oil/gas that gets sent to Cali via various pipelines is shipped off to Japan and Asia pacific. I'll try and dig that up.
-Other things...


Some of those are "tack on" things and others have a bigger impact like taxes and such. But the major reason is supply/demand/geopolitics/production policy.

As for the grand oil game, it comes down, in large part, to the final flow rates. Meaning, you can have an "reserve" which is oil that is accessible, of 100 trillion barrels but it is meaningless if you can only pump out 5 mbpd.

Ok, but exactly happened in 7 weeks that changed in all those things?
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 05, 2012, 10:34:07 AM
3.13 in dallas.

I traveled to Dallas twice last year and the gas prices there are really pretty reasonable..I was surprised at how low they were
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2012, 10:35:57 AM
I traveled to Dallas twice last year and the gas prices there are really pretty reasonable..I was surprised at how low they were

Stay out of texas - they don't like your kind over there.   
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: andreisdaman on July 05, 2012, 10:37:16 AM
Stay out of texas - they don't like your kind over there.   

they don''t like your kind there either.....the unemployed.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: GigantorX on July 05, 2012, 10:53:13 AM
Ok, but exactly happened in 7 weeks that changed in all those things?

Probably the economy declining further and then the evil futures traders selling and pushing the price of a barrel of oil down. All the things I listed have effects, but the biggest effect is usually the price of a barrel of oil and refining capacity. It could have in part to global demand dropping as well so the oil corps. and refiners just kept the distillates/oil in he U.S. to be sold rather than exporting it.

But the Gasoline - Oil connection can me hazy at times if refining capacity can't produce enough gasoline to satisfy demand.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: chadstallion on July 05, 2012, 01:37:00 PM
Stay out of texas - they don't like your kind over there.   
we like all kinds:
steers, queers, rednecks.
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Dos Equis on July 05, 2012, 01:40:39 PM
I just filled up my car yesterday.  Not exactly jumping for joy over "falling gas prices." 
Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: OzmO on July 05, 2012, 01:42:23 PM
Probably the economy declining further and then the evil futures traders selling and pushing the price of a barrel of oil down. All the things I listed have effects, but the biggest effect is usually the price of a barrel of oil and refining capacity. It could have in part to global demand dropping as well so the oil corps. and refiners just kept the distillates/oil in he U.S. to be sold rather than exporting it.

But the Gasoline - Oil connection can me hazy at times if refining capacity can't produce enough gasoline to satisfy demand.

But hasn't history shown us demand always goes up in the summer?  How is this summer economic wise any different from any other summer since 07?  Hasn't been that way for the last 10 years at least?  I could be wrong.  

Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: OzmO on July 05, 2012, 01:45:27 PM
I just filled up my car yesterday.  Not exactly jumping for joy over "falling gas prices." 

Not enough to make me jump for joy but.......

Don't know what it is over there, but may cheap gas was 4.17 here.  Now i can get it for 3.51  which means i save about $15 dollars every time i fill up which about 3-4 a month.  Its not 1.89, but hell, this is better than it has been.

Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: GigantorX on July 05, 2012, 01:47:48 PM
But hasn't history shown us demand always goes up in the summer?  How is this summer economic wise any different from any other summer since 07?  Hasn't been that way for the last 10 years at least?  I could be wrong.  



More people losing their jobs or going from high paying jobs to menial McJobs, credit cards being maxed out, more people losing their homes, savings being drained away and on and on. In 2007 the economy was in a shambles, things were shaking out...some held on, some dipped into savings some got a 2nd job etc.....at this point all that has been shaken out again. Now that 2nd job doesn't exist, the savings are drained, you can't squeeze a nickel out of any household demand, or they family who survived but had to live walking the highwire has now suffered a job loss, or a reduction in pay or hours or whatever and they are now fucked.

Oil is also global and the global economy is falling apart as well.

Title: Re: GOP suddenly quiet on falling gas prices
Post by: Dos Equis on July 05, 2012, 02:48:38 PM
Not enough to make me jump for joy but.......

Don't know what it is over there, but may cheap gas was 4.17 here.  Now i can get it for 3.51  which means i save about $15 dollars every time i fill up which about 3-4 a month.  Its not 1.89, but hell, this is better than it has been.



I think I paid $4.40?  Something like that.  I'm always trying not to go postal when I fill up.   >:(