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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Darren Avey on July 07, 2012, 06:21:56 AM
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Today is July 7th, the 7th anniversary of the London bombings. You d think there d be people on tv remembering the events of the day etc etc but No, theres some bitch on the news just now telling us the "men who did this are victims too" she condemns anyone who calls them murderers as they are not murderers they were desperate men who need our love and prayers as much as anyone else killed on 7-7.
Fucking left wing liberal fucks! >:(
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Maybe they're planning a great party for the 7.5 yr anniversary ?
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I thought it was already 'bout 70 years since the bombings of London took place :-\
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Man, if true, that's fucking sad. I remember when the VT shootings happened a few years ago, and they lit candles for the victims. Then one stupid student lit another one, and was trying to say that "we lost 33 students, not 32". Shit was quickly removed, but none the less, I figured it was just some confused liberal college kid, but fuck, it looks like you have a country full of these type of fools.
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The UK and much of Europe is lost and damned.
There is not coming back.
It's people have lost every ounce of self respect and have been thoroughly broken long time ago.
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The UK and much of Europe is lost and damned.
There is not coming back.
It's people have lost every ounce of self respect and have been thoroughly broken long time ago.
WTF? I'm looking to buy an apt in Europe. Maybe I can spread sum democracy.
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Liberalism is an infection started in the US and it is spreading. It's sad that being able to point at evil is being watered down.
Another big problem with England is no one brushes their teeth. Also it wouldn't hurt to fix those crooked teeth either.
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They are PREOCCUPIED with the Summer Olympics now, so basically they've forgotten... sadly!
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They should show this on their TV and also tell people that Hitler WANTED peace with britain and even COALITION.
Hitler offers were rejected and how it ended? thousands of dead, British Empire bankrupted, no colonies and homeland filled with millions of immigrants.
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WTF? I'm looking to buy an apt in Europe. Maybe I can spread sum democracy.
Hahah ;D ;D
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England is like a mini India/Pakistan, what do you expect?
payback is a bitch
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Sounds more like opinion, rather than 'news.' No one does gutter better than the UK. Sometimes I wonder how such a country founded an empire. :-\
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Today is July 7th, the 7th anniversary of the London bombings. You d think there d be people on tv remembering the events of the day etc etc but No, theres some bitch on the news just now telling us the "men who did this are victims too" she condemns anyone who calls them murderers as they are not murderers they were desperate men who need our love and prayers as much as anyone else killed on 7-7.
Fucking left wing liberal fucks! >:(
That's because everyone knows it was an inside job and the accused are just Patsies!
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Europe will fall apart sooner or later.
On a local level it can be quite good here, overall it's bad because the governments have sold themselves out to the highest bidders.
After the economy officially goes to hell it may be civil war time.
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Europe will fall apart sooner or later.
On a local level it can be quite good here, overall it's bad because the governments have sold themselves out to the highest bidders.
After the economy officially goes to hell it may be civil war time.
what do you mean ??
There's no integral "Europe" to fall apart.
EU (if that's what you mean) is just a loose 'consortium' of countries hugely differing from each others. Heck, not even same language is spoken in any of the countries, I think.... and not even speaking about cultural differences... it's quite difficult to talk about Greece and for example Finland or Sweden as same Europe.
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we have to adress the jewish menace.
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what do you mean ??
There's no integral "Europe" to fall apart.
EU (if that's what you mean) is just a loose 'consortium' of countries hugely differing from each others. Heck, not even same language is spoken in any of the countries, I think.... and not even speaking about cultural differences... it's quite difficult to talk about Greece and for example Finland or Sweden as same Europe.
x2 the weather in Greece is way better....
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Sounds more like opinion, rather than 'news.' No one does gutter better than the UK. Sometimes I wonder how such a country founded an empire. :-\
probably because the "brits" who founded, started, and created that empire ie. The Anglo-Saxons were actually Germans and Danes ;D
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They should show this on their TV and also tell people that Hitler WANTED peace with britain and even COALITION.
Hitler offers were rejected and how it ended? thousands of dead, British Empire bankrupted, no colonies and homeland filled with millions of immigrants.
Indeed, the guy was very reliable... :-[
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Today is July 7th, the 7th anniversary of the London bombings. You d think there d be people on tv remembering the events of the day etc etc but No, theres some bitch on the news just now telling us the "men who did this are victims too" she condemns anyone who calls them murderers as they are not murderers they were desperate men who need our love and prayers as much as anyone else killed on 7-7.
Fucking left wing liberal fucks! >:(
If that is true then it is very fucked up. Someone should bitch slap that whore. Maybe send her to the Middle East to be gang raped by the victims she seems so passionate about.
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That's because everyone knows it was an inside job and the accused are just Patsies!
Not everyone knows that.
Just you and a handful of others.
Because you guys watch internet videos.
Light years ahead of everyone else.
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what do you mean ??
There's no integral "Europe" to fall apart.
EU (if that's what you mean) is just a loose 'consortium' of countries hugely differing from each others. Heck, not even same language is spoken in any of the countries, I think.... and not even speaking about cultural differences... it's quite difficult to talk about Greece and for example Finland or Sweden as same Europe.
This.
Also, Dutch is spoken in Belgium too. But Belgium, although tiny, is de facto two countries. Even in Holland we have at least two, possibly three (Limburgs?) officially recognised languages. On a population of 16 million. Not even counting Turkish and Moroccan. ;)
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x2 the weather in Greece is way better....
Some other minor differences ::)
In Finland:
(http://www.satakunnankansa.fi/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1195966592787&ssbinary=true)
And...
(http://mybfolder.com/pics/5009-1291273865.jpg)
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(http://www.blikopdebeurs.com/weblog1/images/cretitratings_january2012.jpg)
CC not that bad huh ?
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Not everyone knows that.
Just you and a handful of others.
Because you guys watch internet videos.
Light years ahead of everyone else.
hahaha so true. :D :)
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2012
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American getbiggers got weird ideas about todays Europe.... :-\
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This.
Also, Dutch is spoken in Belgium too. But Belgium, although tiny, is de facto two countries. Even in Holland we have at least two, possibly three (Limburgs?) officially recognised languages. On a population of 16 million. Not even counting Turkish and Moroccan. ;)
Ok, let's get this straight for those who give a shit about official languages:
Holland: Dutch, Frysian and Nedersaxon.
Belgium: Dutch, French and German
Dutch is spoken in Holland, Belgium and a small part of France (Dunkirque area)
Related: Afrikaans, 1st language for a few million white people in South Africa, next to English.
Amd Limburgs is not a language, Friko.... ;D ;D where are you from, btw ?
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what do you mean ??
There's no integral "Europe" to fall apart.
EU (if that's what you mean) is just a loose 'consortium' of countries hugely differing from each others. Heck, not even same language is spoken in any of the countries, I think.... and not even speaking about cultural differences... it's quite difficult to talk about Greece and for example Finland or Sweden as same Europe.
If there isn't already, there will be a single entity in Europe in the coming years if Eurozone plans to establish a banking union come to fruition. Think about it: banks will be accountable to Eurozone managers who will buy their bonds directly at the auctions in times of need, not the national government whose country they reside in. Taxpayers across the 17-member country bloc will be funding the mechanisms that will do the purchasing. National governments will be getting a serious downgrade in importance and the bloc will rise or fall together in virtue of individual members' financial health.
My condolescences to our Dutch, German, and Finnish members who will be bearing the brunt of this arrangement. :-[
P.S. And even though other countries will remain independent of this arrangement, most notably Britain, I'm guessing they would be severely damaged economically if the Eurozone were to collapse due to economic and financial interlinkages. So, they should still rise or fall with the bloc.
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If there isn't already, there will be a single entity that most will refer to as 'Europe' in the coming years if Eurozone plans to establish a banking union come to fruition. Think about it: banks will be accountable to the Eurozone managers who will buy their bonds directly at the auctions in times of need, not the national government whose country they reside in. Taxpayers across the 27-member country bloc will be funding the mechanisms that will do the purchasing. National governments will be getting a serious downgrade in importance and the bloc will rise or fall together in virtue of individual members' financial health.
Yep, Sure it's their plan to have "one Europe".... those who live will see what comes out of it.
I'm happy though that I have "safe haven" few hundred kilometers away where tax rate is low, gasoline cheap as shit, women pretty and missiles big.... I mean, I'm not going to eternally pump my hard worked money to some lazy-ass hair-wrists in southern Europe so they can lay all day in hammock and sip ouzo :)
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WTF? I'm looking to buy an apt in Europe. Maybe I can spread sum democracy.
Or learn about democracy, if you go to the right place, like Switzerland.
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Yep, Sure it's their plan to have "one Europe".... those who live will see what comes out of it.
I'm happy though that I have "safe haven" few hundred kilometers away where tax rate is low, gasoline cheap as shit, women pretty and missiles big.... I mean, I'm not going to eternally pump my hard worked money to some lazy-ass hair-wrists in southern Europe so they don't have to work :)
I am very ambiguous about Russia. They got some of the best literature in history, the Hermitage is terrific....but they did shit things too. Bit like germany I guess. In the 1940 lots of intellectuals in the Western world just couldn't believe the country of Hegel and Goethe (greater Germany) and all these Nobel level scientists could do the shit stuff they did....
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My condolescences to our Dutch, German, and Finnish members who will be bearing the brunt of this arrangement. :-[
Don't feel too sorry for them; it's not as if they didn't reap the best the eurozone had to offer by exporting their products to the same countries they are now berating ;)
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In the end I am a progressive liberal Europhile, and believe in the United States of Europe...even if may take a while (and it will)
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I am very ambiguous about Russia. They got some of the best literature in history, the Hermitage is terrific....but they did shit things too. Bit like germany I guess. In the 1940 lots of intellectuals in the Western world just couldn't believe the country of Hegel and Goethe (greater Germany) and all these Nobel level scientists could do the shit stuff they did....
Russia needs time... consider that in its long history it has almost never had democracy, it went from monarchy (the kind where the ruler has the last word, not our benign european version with a parliament) to brutal totalitarianism.
Personally I think that in the future Russia will probably be what the United States has been since WWII.
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Liberalism is an infection started in the US and it is spreading. It's sad that being able to point at evil is being watered down.
Another big problem with England is no one brushes their teeth. Also it wouldn't hurt to fix those crooked teeth either.
Liberalism originated from John Locke in the 17th century and had nothing to do with the US.
The real infection that's spreading around the world is a lack of a basic education, as evidenced by your post.
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History is not predictable....who could think we would be where we are now, in 1945...where are you from, raymondo ?
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Liberalism originated from John Locke in the 17th century and had nothing to do with the US.
The real infection that's spreading around the world is a lack of a basic education, as evidenced by your post.
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A lot of bullshit in this thread and all from people who've never been anywhere outside their country
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Liberalism originated from John Locke in the 17th century and had nothing to do with the US.
The real infection that's spreading around the world is a lack of a basic education, as evidenced by your post.
The U.S. can't say shit about education. Most civilized countries are smarter.
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Russia needs time... consider that in its long history it has almost never had democracy, it went from monarchy (the kind where the ruler has the last word, not our benign european version with a parliament) to brutal totalitarianism.
Personally I think that in the future Russia will probably be what the United States has been since WWII.
Some how, i think they'll eff that up as well...
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Ion Holland the term "liberal" is very different form what it's considered in the US. Our main "liberal party" is conservative for Dutch standards....I think what Americans call "liberal" we call "progressive"....
The Obama program would still be considered very right-wing and conservative here in Holland...not kidding. ;D ;D
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Some how, i think they'll eff that up as well...
A lot depends on what takes place after the next 6 years. That's when Putin will step down (Yes, he will, trust me on this).
Then it will be seen whether his (then) 16 years of stability have been enough.
If that transition goes smoothly, I think the road is open for progress.
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That's cool, Raymondo. In thought you were just a dude from Jerkwater, USA... ;D ;D
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I live in south-east england. In the past I lived for six months in Lithuania. My parents have retired to a mediterranean country, so I go there too as often as I can. I've travelled in most european countries, excluding the more obscure ones, such as a few of the balkan ones, iceland, belarus, moldova etc.
I've been to Russia too, specifically to St. Petersburg which was a dream for many years since I've read everything from Dostoyevsky.
I envy people like you. You have travelled all over. My dream would to be able to visit Greece and Rome. To look in awe at the magnificent ruins of the past. Surely beats Disneyworld ::)
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That's cool, Raymondo. In thought you were just a dude from Jerkwater, USA... ;D ;D
LOL
I was in the netherlands last year. I have a friend who's doing an MSc in the university of Amsterdam. I met a fellow Brit in the ferry on the way there who I later found out was a heroin addict. It turns out you guys have high purity heroin- his body was used to the cheap Afghan shit they sell here and he almost died when he tried yours.
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Many Americans are confused about this and have the audacity to call Obama "socialist." If they only knew.
Years ago I saw a program from USA... one of those with camera crew following the police...
well, police stopped a man who roller skated on highway.
They told the man that it's not allowed to roller skate on this high way and asked him to stop.
Then camera focused on this man and he said: "This is fukin' communism"
HAHAHAHAHA 8) 8)
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Liberalism originated from John Locke in the 17th century and had nothing to do with the US.
The real infection that's spreading around the world is a lack of a basic education, as evidenced by your post.
"oldtimer1", as he has proven many times, is not the sharpest tool in the shed. :-\
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I envy people like you. You have travelled all over. My dream would to be able to visit Greece and Rome. To look in awe at the magnificent ruins of the past. Surely beats Disneyworld ::)
Athens is a contender for shitiest city in Europe. The place is all concrete and traffic, you won't see a tree or even an interesting building there.
The former city-states of Italy on the other hand, are marvels. Florence at night is fascinating.
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Why are you unable to travel? Traveling to the Mediterranean as an American tourist is a regular occurrence, not an elite activity reserved for bankers.
Isn't the plane ticket alone a few grand? I'm middle class, I don't have 5000+ to drop on a vacation.
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Many Americans are confused about this and have the audacity to call Obama "socialist." If they only knew.
Most of the intellectual elite of the conservative orthodoxy in the U.S. know that it is utter bullshit. At least that is what I have come to believe from conversations I've had with those in that crowd and from what I read. However, it is a shrewd canard to throw at the less educated masses to scare them even more than they may already be by having a democrat president who also happens to be the first Black one.
"Not only is the president Black, but he is also a socialist Muslim!" To quote Donald Rumsfeld..."Henny-Penny, the sky is falling!" :P ::)
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Isn't the plane ticket alone a few grand? I'm middle class, I don't have 5000+ to drop on a vacation.
Fly off-season and you can get to Europe for under a grand. A two-star hotel (or even a hostel) will give you adequate accommodations.
See the world, dude. And I don't just mean Europe. There really are few excuses, and it is one of the best educations you could ever give yourself. ;) You'll see the commonalities in all people and lose some of the "us vs. them" mentality so many Americans have.
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Fly off-season and you can get to Europe for under a grand. A two-star hotel (or even a hostel) will give you adequate accommodations.
See the world, dude. And I don't just mean Europe. There really are few excuses, and it is one of the best educations you could ever give yourself. ;) You'll see the commonalities in all people and lose some of the "us vs. them" mentality so many Americans have.
Good advice, but I have seen the movie "Hostel". Most Americans are weary of staying in sub-par foreign establishments. I don't want my head sawed off.
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I'm bumping this post because it is utter truth. Athens is a shithole.
The best thing ever is to travel there and then read all the shitty tourism guide propaganda books after the fact. One book I looked at has a nice old Greek man on the cover, kindly smiling at the viewer in the midst of a beautiful background comprising olive fields and the Mediterranean Sea. It talked endlessly of the historical sights and somewhere mentioned the hospitality of the country's people.
Meanwhile, when I went there the smog was out of this world and had even stained the pillars of the Acropolis, the traffic was shit, the garbage workers were on strike so there were giant piles of garbage on every other bloc, stray dogs were everywhere, every other vendor tried to overcharge upon determining I wasn't a local, and upon walking the streets I ran into a weird park area where dozens of Filipino immigrant women camped out on the dirty ground and waited to "service" disgusting old Greek men who would pull up and pick them up.
That sounds disturbing. I would think that it would effect the tourism.
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Good advice, but I have seen the movie "Hostel". Most Americans are weary of staying in sub-par foreign establishments. I don't want my head sawed off.
LOL..."Hostel" was entertaining but not to be taken seriously, dude. :P
Besides, I didn't mention staying at "sub-par foreign establishments." I haven't stayed at a hostel in a very long time, but some are pretty nice, and they are a way to meet other travelers, if that is your goal. And when I talk of a two-star hotel, most in western/central Europe are going to be clean and up to the standards of an American on a budget. You just may not have a top ranked restaurant on the premises, a pool etc. None of which you should be concerned about anyway, since you will be out sightseeing.
The beauty of the internet age is that you can research and see pictures of any hotel/motel/hostel you may be considering before you book the reservation.
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I'm bumping this post because it is utter truth. Athens is a shithole.
The best thing ever is to travel there and then read all the shitty tourism guide propaganda books after the fact. One book I looked at has a nice old Greek man on the cover, kindly smiling at the viewer in the midst of a beautiful background comprising olive fields and the Mediterranean Sea. It talked endlessly of the historical sights and somewhere mentioned the hospitality of the country's people.
Meanwhile, when I went there the smog was out of this world and had even stained the pillars of the Acropolis, the traffic was shit, the garbage workers were on strike so there were giant piles of garbage on every other bloc, stray dogs were everywhere, every other vendor tried to overcharge upon determining I wasn't a local, and upon walking the streets I ran into a weird park area where dozens of Filipino immigrant women camped out on the dirty ground and waited to "service" disgusting old Greek men who would pull up and pick them up.
This was before the euro crisis, by the way. I somehow doubt things have gotten 'better'.
haha, aint' that the truth.
I remember the airplane on the descent towards the airport, me looking out the window and seeing this grey mass of clustered aparment buildings- like everywhere!
The vendor in the kiosk, trying to sell me a 500ml bottle of water for four euros... I was so astonished he would take the piss out of me like that I couldn't think of anything sarcastic to say so I just handed it back silently and left.
Havign arrived at the port to catch the ferry I saw these extremely tired looking Germans and I started chatting with them- it turns out the ferry workers had been on strike for two days straight and no trips were made! They were waiting to find out if there would be a strike that day as well...
Anyway, I finally made it to Santorini. I dare say it was worth it. Prices were very reasonable. You could get tanked for twenty euros a night. The beaches were as good as anywhere in Europe. The sea was icy cold inside (outside the heat was 40+ Celsius). I still haven't figured that out.
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As a person born in the UK, I can quite honestly say that my country is fucked now and it's mainly due to uncontrolled immigration and crime. Unfortunately there is no going back. It's all Tony Bliar's and Gordon Brown's fault. There is no longer freedom of speech and the country is full of ugly lefties who seem to be in love with all the parasites coming into Britain. If you say what you think about the whole situation, they lock you up and give you a criminal record.
How most Britons feel in 2012:
Your typical British lefty:
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Many Americans are confused about this and have the audacity to call Obama "socialist." If they only knew.
They are just parroting what the right wing TV and radio shows say...
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I didn't know 333386 roller skated.
Ironically, 33386 contributes more than you.
You're just trolling and, if I don't agree with you, your posts are incoherent gibberish.
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I pointed out why your post was logically incoherent, broseph. I didn't even mention whether I agreed or not.
It's ok, you are doing the best with what you've got. We all have different abilities and some have more ability than others. Some take 10+ years longer than usual to get a modicum of an education and some don't, etc. This is nature's way.
Yes, you did point it out.
For instance, one of your poignant questions was which universal healthcare I was talking about.
I thought maybe you had seen the news in the last couple of weeks, but I guess I was wrong.
Anyway, there were a couple of stories (maybe even more , I wasn't counting) about a new universal healthcare being declared constitutional in America.
I'll be sure to be more thorough in my posts from now on, seeing as how you have a little trouble "keeping up with things".
It's strange that someone who is so clearly of such (self-confessed) superior intellect would need this, but I know you're smarter than me. After all, you just said it on GB.
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lots of copy and paste intellects in this thread
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My dear sir,
I'm really more interested in pointing out dumb things people say (there are ample opportunities) and hopefully correcting the errors rather than trying to manage others' perception of my intelligence or lack thereof (I could care less).
One such dumb thing you keep saying is that universal healthcare is equivalent to a specific piece of legislation (the ACA). As I mentioned in that thread, the ACA is not universal healthcare. It is a piece of legislation ostensibly geared towards realizing a sort of universal healthcare. But universal healthcare isn't the same thing as any specific piece of legislation that tries to establish it.
This really isn't that hard of a distinction to understand, and once you get it you'll understand everything I said in that thread, i.e., that it's silly of you to criticize those who oppose the legislation as if they are necessarily against universal healthcare. They may like the idea of universal healthcare but be opposed to the ACA, because they aren't the same fucking thing!
so to sum up you love the cock
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Ok, let's get this straight for those who give a shit about official languages:
Holland: Dutch, Frysian and Nedersaxon.
Belgium: Dutch, French and German
Dutch is spoken in Holland, Belgium and a small part of France (Dunkirque area)
Related: Afrikaans, 1st language for a few million white people in South Africa, next to English.
Amd Limburgs is not a language, Friko.... ;D ;D where are you from, btw ?
Nou, gelukkig niet uit Limburg! ;D Wel het pittoreske Dordt.
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Another big problem with England is no one brushes their teeth. Also it wouldn't hurt to fix those crooked teeth either.
;D That's very funny!
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Isn't the plane ticket alone a few grand? I'm middle class, I don't have 5000+ to drop on a vacation.
Shizz, get married, and get a good travel agent. My wife and I went to Italy and Germany for two weeks, stayed in five star hotels, had a euro rail pass, and air fair from the states as well as Munich to Berlin and it only cost us $6,600. Granted we saved about $1,100 because her company is based out of Italy and they paid for her ticket, but either way, it was much cheaper than I thought. I would highly recommend it. Also, to the dude who said Florence was awesome at night, that's the truth. We stayed at the Savoy, and at night the lights in the square were awesome. It is an expensive city, but worth seeing. Also, Rome was the shit. You could literally sense the death that happened when you visit the Colesium.
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As a person born in the UK, I can quite honestly say that my country is fucked now and it's mainly due to uncontrolled immigration and crime. Unfortunately there is no going back. It's all Tony Bliar's and Gordon Brown's fault. There is no longer freedom of speech and the country is full of ugly lefties who seem to be in love with all the parasites coming into Britain. If you say what you think about the whole situation, they lock you up and give you a criminal record.
How most Britons feel in 2012:
Your typical British lefty:
That is sad my friend. In the U.S. we can only read the blogs and such because most of the shit doesn't get reported over here. I remember the French Riots years ago, it was Muslims and Muslim youths destroying everything...apparently it was quite obvious to the locals but over here in the U.S. it was "youth riots" and in France it was the same. Talk about white washing. If you have unfettered immigration where the govt. bends over backwards to "make comfortable" those coming in and makes no demands on those populations to integrate that host nation will find itself ripped to pieces in the near future. Especially when language/religion is involved.
Funny thing is, those Liberals you have pictures of will get fucked just like the rest.
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And by the way, I will be traveling to London over Thanksgiving (6 nights) with my wife and another couple or two. Any suggestions on where to stay, where to go, where not to go etc? We were thinking of going to Paris for a day and other such excursions as well. My wife spent a semester studying in Wales and traveled quite a bit but that was years ago.
Any tips?
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And by the way, I will be traveling to London over Thanksgiving (6 nights) with my wife and another couple or two. Any suggestions on where to stay, where to go, where not to go etc? We were thinking of going to Paris for a day and other such excursions as well. My wife spent a semester studying in Wales and traveled quite a bit but that was years ago.
Any tips?
Never been to Paris, but going there for a day would be the biggest cock tease.
I made the same mistake of going to New York City for a day and I probably saw/experienced 1% of what the city has to offer.
I'm going back for 4 nights in a couple of weeks.
Do yourself a favor and do at the very minimum no less than 3 nights in Paris or similar place.
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Today is July 7th, the 7th anniversary of the London bombings. You d think there d be people on tv remembering the events of the day etc etc but No, theres some bitch on the news just now telling us the "men who did this are victims too" she condemns anyone who calls them murderers as they are not murderers they were desperate men who need our love and prayers as much as anyone else killed on 7-7.
Fucking left wing liberal fucks! >:(
America = over patriotic morons. You have no awareness how you look to the rest of the world pledging allegance to a flag like zombies whilst celebrating the genocide of the ACTUAL (native) Americans.
Hiroshima + Nagasaki = two worst terrorist bombings of all time.
No awareness full stop (period).
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America = over patriotic morons. You have no awareness how you look to the rest of the world pledging allegance to a flag like zombies whilst celebrating the genocide of the ACTUAL (native) Americans.
Hiroshima + Nagasaki = two worst terrorist bombings of all time.
No awareness full stop (period).
He calls 300 million people morons and then in the very next sentence misspells a third grade level word. :D
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He calls 300 million people morons and then in the very next sentence misspells a third grade level word. :D
Solid political point you make there, moron.
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America = over patriotic morons. You have no awareness how you look to the rest of the world pledging allegance to a flag like zombies whilst celebrating the genocide of the ACTUAL (native) Americans.
Hiroshima + Nagasaki = two worst terrorist bombings of all time.
No awareness full stop (period).
Without Nagasaki and Hiroshima you Brit/French guys would be speaking German right now. So kindly fuck off and maybe thanks Americans for bailing your sorry asses out time and time again.
When the Muslim scum overrun the U.K., rest assured they'll come running to the U.S., for help/money first.
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Solid political point you make there, moron.
Just clarifying! :-* 8)
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Without Nagasaki and Hiroshima you Brit/French guys would be speaking German right now. So kindly fuck off and maybe thanks Americans for bailing your sorry asses out time and time again.
When the Muslim scum overrun the U.K., rest assured they'll come running to the U.S., for help/money first.
Like bankrupt America has any money!
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And by the way, I will be traveling to London over Thanksgiving (6 nights) with my wife and another couple or two. Any suggestions on where to stay, where to go, where not to go etc? We were thinking of going to Paris for a day and other such excursions as well. My wife spent a semester studying in Wales and traveled quite a bit but that was years ago.
Any tips?
North London or Central as possible. Everywhere else you'll be dealing ethnics. As what's to see, buy a book or check online. Tons to do.
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Like bankrupt America has any money!
So where are you 3rd world bitches at if the U.S. cuts off all foreign aid? That's right, your piss pot countries would look like Romania.
America controls the world economy.
America controls world politics.
Americans (even under a complete fool like Obama) enjoy the highest standard of living in the world.
Americans are just superior - get over it.
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Without Nagasaki and Hiroshima you Brit/French guys would be speaking German right now.
Yes, Hirohito was big on pushing German language !!!
HAha ;D ;D
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America = over patriotic morons. You have no awareness how you look to the rest of the world pledging allegance to a flag like zombies whilst celebrating the genocide of the ACTUAL (native) Americans.
Hiroshima + Nagasaki = two worst terrorist bombings of all time.
No awareness full stop (period).
1 st off most Americans don't give a shit what the rest of the world thinks. We have spilled enough blood for ungrateful folk the world over. Sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly. Take away our economy and aid and the rest of the world is fucked. Shit countries in the EU are screwing themselves all by themselves
This "genocide" you speak of began with other countries and peoples centuries before "America" ever existed. It is not a new phenomena invented by Americans. Shit the various native tribes of N America did the same thing to each other before europeans arrived. It was called expansionism, colonization etc. The Mongols, Spanish, French, Japanese, English, African tribes and a host of others did the same damn thing 1st. So brush up on your history scooter before you point fingers. Read up on Genghis Khan, The "colonization" of Australia. S. Africa, India, just to name a very very few.
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Yes, Hirohito was big on pushing German language !!!
HAha ;D ;D
Is it true that really dumb people like you have more patience to perform menial tasks?
Or is that a family trait of yours?
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Ah yes the egalitarian dream. Europeans can just sit with superior intellect and culture and laugh.
Killing 130,000 unarmed civilians probably felt awesome for the US. Congratulations on reaping the economic rewards though.
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Is it true that really dumb people like you have more patience to perform menial tasks?
Or is that a family trait of yours?
??? ???
Of course I'm not on your level but wouldn't consider myself dump either.
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1 st off most Americans don't give a shit what the rest of the world thinks. We have spilled enough blood for ungrateful folk the world over. Sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly. Take away our economy and aid and the rest of the world is fucked. Shit countries in the EU are screwing themselves all by themselves
This "genocide" you speak of began with other countries and peoples centuries before "America" ever existed. It is not a new phenomena invented by Americans. Shit the various native tribes of N America did the same thing to each other before europeans arrived. It was called expansionism, colonization etc. The Mongols, Spanish, French, Japanese, English, African tribes and a host of others did the same damn thing 1st. So brush up on your history scooter before you point fingers. Read up on Genghis Khan, The "colonization" of Australia. S. Africa, India, just to name a very very few.
Ah okay so comparing yourselves to the Mongols makes you feel better, that's hilarious.
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Yes, Hirohito was big on pushing German language !!!
HAha ;D ;D
Collateral damage. Not to mention the allied bombings of Germany which killed more that what was done by the two A bombs.
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So where are you 3rd world bitches at if the U.S. cuts off all foreign aid? That's right, your piss pot countries would look like Romania.
America controls the world economy.
America controls world politics.
Americans (even under a complete fool like Obama) enjoy the highest standard of living in the world.
Americans are just superior - get over it.
HA HA Highest standard of living, my arse, the country I live in Ranks higher than America, So does the Netherlands and Norway! One must also take into account that America is only a couple of decades away from collapse! The invasion of Iraq in part was to prevent Iraq from selling there oil in Euros and further weakening the American dollar. America is just delaying the inevitable through war, there is now nothing the USA can do to prevent the collapse of its currency, and its economy. It has no reserves to support its value, and has the most indebted country in the world, is dependant of the credit from America's former enemies. Over the last couple of years, both Russia and China have said they will be switching their considerable dollar reserves into Euro. This will only hasten the lack of confidence in the dollar, creating a global lack of confidence in the currency, and setting into free-fall. It will soon bring about the total collapse of the dollar, and the American economy. I wont remain smug though, as due to Americas collapse, they will also destroy many other nations economies with it! This is why the world hates America, they completely FUCKED what could have been a good thing!
Americans do not appear to comprehend the bitterness that has grown around the world as a result of their illegal invasion of Iraq. While once Europeans looked up to, and admired America; today it is held in utter contempt for its arrogance and warmongering. Anti-European comments in the American media have only added to this hostility towards the US. America's attempt to impose its version of government on the world, its hypocrisy in claiming to be the moral leader of the world, while flooding the media with degenerate filth and garbage, has bought upon it disgust and contempt that few Americans can comprehend.
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Collateral damage. Not to mention the allied bombings of Germany which killed more that what was done by the two A bombs.
Yes, both acts of terror by definition.
We should send ourselves to Guantanamo without trial, then bomb whatever country we're from for an extended period of time.
500,000 Afghan/Iragi civilians dead since 9/11, you should be ashamed.
How many died in 9/11? You do the math & work out who the bad guys are.
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Yes, both acts of terror by definition.
We should send ourselves to Guantanamo without trial, then bomb whatever country we're from for an extended period of time.
500,000 Afghan/Iragi civilians dead since 9/11, you should be ashamed.
How many died in 9/11? You do the math & work out who the bad guys are.
I'm not saying it isn't sad, I'm just saying until we either stay out of each others affairs, or join hands and sing kumaya, this shit will continue.
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Collateral damage. Not to mention the allied bombings of Germany which killed more that what was done by the two A bombs.
Germany was already defeated at the time of dropping those nukes in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
USSR took control in Berlin at 2nd of May whereas USA dropped nuke in Hiroshima at 6th of August.
So those bombs had nothing to do with preventing UK and France becoming German-speaking countries, which was the initial claim of "bike nut".
That's what I was after here.
we have discussed the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki before and I'm not blindly condemning them at all.
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Of course I'm not on your level but wouldn't consider myself dump either.
I never called you "dump", you called yourself "dump", I'm not really sure what being "dump" even means?
I said you are dumb.....I rest my case. ;D
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Ah okay so comparing yourselves to the Mongols makes you feel better, that's hilarious.
History classes , were you asleep?
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HA HA Highest standard of living, my arse, the country I live in Ranks higher than America, So does the Netherlands and Norway! One must also take into account that America is only a couple of decades away from collapse! The invasion of Iraq in part was to prevent Iraq from selling there oil in Euros and further weakening the American dollar. America is just delaying the inevitable through war, there is now nothing the USA can do to prevent the collapse of its currency, and its economy. It has no reserves to support its value, and has the most indebted country in the world, is dependant of the credit from America's former enemies. Over the last couple of years, both Russia and China have said they will be switching their considerable dollar reserves into Euro. This will only hasten the lack of confidence in the dollar, creating a global lack of confidence in the currency, and setting into free-fall. It will soon bring about the total collapse of the dollar, and the American economy. I wont remain smug though, as due to Americas collapse, they will also destroy many other nations economies with it! This is why the world hates America, they completely FUCKED what could have been a good thing!
Americans do not appear to comprehend the bitterness that has grown around the world as a result of their illegal invasion of Iraq. While once Europeans looked up to, and admired America; today it is held in utter contempt for its arrogance and warmongering. Anti-European comments in the American media have only added to this hostility towards the US. America's attempt to impose its version of government on the world, its hypocrisy in claiming to be the moral leader of the world, while flooding the media with degenerate filth and garbage, has bought upon it disgust and contempt that few Americans can comprehend.
The Euro is at far greater risk of collapse than the U.S. dollar. Once Germany realizes that bailing out the PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) is like loaning money to a lazy, shiftless uncle, there will be an entire financial collapse of the E.U. Don't think for a minute that the country you live in won't be pulled down the toilet in the swirling flush.
And secondly....do you think ANY real American gives a flying fuck that some liberal fags somewhere hold them in feigned contempt? We know we're superior to you, we know our standard of living is superior to yours, and we also know there is sweet fuck all you pansies can do about it.
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The Euro is at far greater risk of collapse than the U.S. dollar. Once Germany realizes that bailing out the PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) is like loaning money to a lazy, shiftless uncle, there will be an entire financial collapse of the E.U. Don't think for a minute that the country you live in won't be pulled down the toilet in the swirling flush.
And secondly....do you think ANY real American gives a flying fuck that some liberal fags somewhere hold them in feigned contempt? We know we're superior to you, we know our standard of living is superior to yours, and we also know there is sweet fuck all you pansies can do about it.
And at this point loaning money to ANY European nation is one of the worst moves an American politician can make so any sort of bailout in the future is not going to happen. Most Americans would just as soon see all those whiny uppity fucks starve.
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And at this point loaning money to ANY European nation is one of the worst moves an American politician can make so any sort of bailout in the future is not going to happen. Most Americans would just as soon see all those whiny uppity fucks starve.
I like this guy!
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The Euro is at far greater risk of collapse than the U.S. dollar. Once Germany realizes that bailing out the PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) is like loaning money to a lazy, shiftless uncle, there will be an entire financial collapse of the E.U. Don't think for a minute that the country you live in won't be pulled down the toilet in the swirling flush.
And secondly....do you think ANY real American gives a flying fuck that some liberal fags somewhere hold them in feigned contempt? We know we're superior to you, we know our standard of living is superior to yours, and we also know there is sweet fuck all you pansies can do about it.
Whatever currency fails, result will be the same, devastating consequences to the American way of life!
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And at this point loaning money to ANY European nation is one of the worst moves an American politician can make so any sort of bailout in the future is not going to happen. Most Americans would just as soon see all those whiny uppity fucks starve.
Lol, how the fuck do we (U.S.) loan anyone money? We are trillions in debt.
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The U.S. can't say shit about education. Most civilized countries are smarter.
The US has more universities in the top 20 top rated schools in the world than any other country. How many other countries have hundreds of thousands of people moving to them to receive education every year? None that even come close to the US.
Our scientists sit on the boards of the top leading industries in mathematics and technology. NASA has contributed more to the entire worlds way of life when it comes to technology and science than any other single organization in any other country. Our defense program has put technology into the hands of countries that can now better defends themselves against viable threats to their way of life.
So I disagree, the US can say a lot more than any other country can about education. We produce some of the most well educated individuals on the face of the planet.
Now go step in front of a bus or whatever other mode of public transportation your shit third rate country provides.
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The US has more universities in the top 20 top rated schools in the world than any other country. How many other countries have hundreds of thousands of people moving to them to receive education every year? None that even come close to the US.
Our scientists sit on the boards of the top leading industries in mathematics and technology. NASA has contributed more to the entire worlds way of life when it comes to technology and science than any other single organization in any other country. Our defense program has put technology into the hands of countries that can now better defends themselves against viable threats to their way of life.
So I disagree, the US can say a lot more than any other country can about education. We produce some of the most well educated individuals on the face of the planet.
Now go step in front of a bus or whatever other mode of public transportation your shit third rate country provides.
I live in the U.S. asswipe. I'm talking about education through the highschool level.
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I'm just gonna jump in here (and no doubt someone will take offense), but there's far too much uninformed nonsense about the UK going on in here. Whether people want to listen or not, that's up to you.
First off, the original post was discussing the 7/7 attacks and their coverage in the UK media. Whilst I agree that people should remember tragedies like this, at the same time endless coverage on the TV isn't acheiving anything at all. I find the same with the US and the way that 9/11 is mentioned so often. You can discuss it/cover it/remember it all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it happened, and I doubt it's going to bring any comfort to anyone related to someone involved in the tragedy. What most people don't seem to realise, is that none of these TV channels are showing the 9/11 or 7/7 remembrance footage because they give a shit about what happened. They're doing it because it's the thing to do, it makes them look like they care, and more importantly, it makes them money because people tune in. But that's another debate.
The underlying point in the OP was the way that the UK has lost any sense of patriotism, to the point where we aren't allowed to be ourselves now, for fear of being labelled racists. You can't put a flag up on St George's day, otherwise people think you're some kind of extremist, wanting to kick out any non-white Brit/immigrant, etc. And this is what pisses me off.
To understand the current state of the UK, you have to remember that 50-60 years ago, the Empire was still in full swing. Anyone from within the Empire could come to Britain and get work, and they did. The standard of living was higher, wages were better. We couldn't just deny them entry, as that was against the whole ideal of the Empire. Consider someone from Texas coming to NY to get work, there's no problem, cos they're still part of the whole. As the Empire slowly broke down, we didn't change our immigration/asylum policies though, and people continued to come in. So, over many decades, you've filled a country with people from so many different cultures, and more importantly, so many different religions, that there is bound to be some conflict.
Where the US differs in this, is the majority of your immigrants are from South America, mostly Hispanic, mostly Catholic or some Christian-based derivitive, so the religious conflicts are not as bad. The other nationalities you have are such a minority that they don't register on the scale really. So, you've got nowhere near the level of diversity you can find in the UK (or many other European countries for that matter).
Now, the important bit, the fact is that the majority of the immigrants are not the people causing any of the problems the UK is facing. The Asians tend to be very family oriented, and can be very insular, which causes aggravation from those who don't understand them. There is unfortunately a younger generation of Asians, who have fully grasped the Western culture of drink and drugs, and do seem to take advantage of the 'perks' being a minority carries (these being a general unwillingness on the part of the authorities/media to control them for fear of it becoming racially motivated). The Eastern Europeans are all hard-working, skilled to a good level, and willing to work for lower pay than the Brits, so that of course causes no end of hassle.
The biggest problem in the UK is twofold. Firstly, the media/government/authorities need to stop handling immigration and immigrants with kid gloves, not wanting to cause a scene. If people don't qualify to be here, kick them out, if they're here on asylum and commit crimes, kick them out, if they don't play by the rules, kick them out. It's fairly simple, but no-one's brave enough to tackle it.
Secondly, there is a lower class of people in Britain who are a complete waste of space. They have been raised in families where they weren't wanted, with parents who didn't work, and are quite happy to collect benefits for doing nothing. A lot of them will actively avoid work, by faking non-diagnosable illnesses like back problems, anxiety, stress, etc. so that they can be medically signed off. These same people will then be down the local pub on a Fri/Sat night, smoking and drinking with everyone else. They live on a mix of benefits, and high-repayment short-term loans, which they blow on flat-screen TV's, Xbox's and other fancy crap, whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of opportunity in the UK.
So, to summarise what has become a rather long post, until the UK government puts proper border controls in place, and then forces these lazy bastards back into work, then things will continue to slowly crumble.
As someone who owns my own business, and works 7 days a week to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, it boils my piss seeing these shitbags being paid Ł10k's to do absolutely nothing for it. But then, who's the sucker in that statement?
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I'm just gonna jump in here (and no doubt someone will take offense), but there's far too much uninformed nonsense about the UK going on in here. Whether people want to listen or not, that's up to you.
First off, the original post was discussing the 7/7 attacks and their coverage in the UK media. Whilst I agree that people should remember tragedies like this, at the same time endless coverage on the TV isn't acheiving anything at all. I find the same with the US and the way that 9/11 is mentioned so often. You can discuss it/cover it/remember it all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it happened, and I doubt it's going to bring any comfort to anyone related to someone involved in the tragedy. What most people don't seem to realise, is that none of these TV channels are showing the 9/11 or 7/7 remembrance footage because they give a shit about what happened. They're doing it because it's the thing to do, it makes them look like they care, and more importantly, it makes them money because people tune in. But that's another debate.
The underlying point in the OP was the way that the UK has lost any sense of patriotism, to the point where we aren't allowed to be ourselves now, for fear of being labelled racists. You can't put a flag up on St George's day, otherwise people think you're some kind of extremist, wanting to kick out any non-white Brit/immigrant, etc. And this is what pisses me off.
To understand the current state of the UK, you have to remember that 50-60 years ago, the Empire was still in full swing. Anyone from within the Empire could come to Britain and get work, and they did. The standard of living was higher, wages were better. We couldn't just deny them entry, as that was against the whole ideal of the Empire. Consider someone from Texas coming to NY to get work, there's no problem, cos they're still part of the whole. As the Empire slowly broke down, we didn't change our immigration/asylum policies though, and people continued to come in. So, over many decades, you've filled a country with people from so many different cultures, and more importantly, so many different religions, that there is bound to be some conflict.
Where the US differs in this, is the majority of your immigrants are from South America, mostly Hispanic, mostly Catholic or some Christian-based derivitive, so the religious conflicts are not as bad. The other nationalities you have are such a minority that they don't register on the scale really. So, you've got nowhere near the level of diversity you can find in the UK (or many other European countries for that matter).
Now, the important bit, the fact is that the majority of the immigrants are not the people causing any of the problems the UK is facing. The Asians tend to be very family oriented, and can be very insular, which causes aggravation from those who don't understand them. There is unfortunately a younger generation of Asians, who have fully grasped the Western culture of drink and drugs, and do seem to take advantage of the 'perks' being a minority carries (these being a general unwillingness on the part of the authorities/media to control them for fear of it becoming racially motivated). The Eastern Europeans are all hard-working, skilled to a good level, and willing to work for lower pay than the Brits, so that of course causes no end of hassle.
The biggest problem in the UK is twofold. Firstly, the media/government/authorities need to stop handling immigration and immigrants with kid gloves, not wanting to cause a scene. If people don't qualify to be here, kick them out, if they're here on asylum and commit crimes, kick them out, if they don't play by the rules, kick them out. It's fairly simple, but no-one's brave enough to tackle it.
Secondly, there is a lower class of people in Britain who are a complete waste of space. They have been raised in families where they weren't wanted, with parents who didn't work, and are quite happy to collect benefits for doing nothing. A lot of them will actively avoid work, by faking non-diagnosable illnesses like back problems, anxiety, stress, etc. so that they can be medically signed off. These same people will then be down the local pub on a Fri/Sat night, smoking and drinking with everyone else. They live on a mix of benefits, and high-repayment short-term loans, which they blow on flat-screen TV's, Xbox's and other fancy crap, whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of opportunity in the UK.
So, to summarise what has become a rather long post, until the UK government puts proper border controls in place, and then forces these lazy bastards back into work, then things will continue to slowly crumble.
As someone who owns my own business, and works 7 days a week to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, it boils my piss seeing these shitbags being paid Ł10k's to do absolutely nothing for it. But then, who's the sucker in that statement?
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Damn bro, Solid post. I often wonder how Britain would be today if those 2 costly World Wars never took place.
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The US has more universities in the top 20 top rated schools in the world than any other country. How many other countries have hundreds of thousands of people moving to them to receive education every year? None that even come close to the US.
Our scientists sit on the boards of the top leading industries in mathematics and technology. NASA has contributed more to the entire worlds way of life when it comes to technology and science than any other single organization in any other country. Our defense program has put technology into the hands of countries that can now better defends themselves against viable threats to their way of life.
So I disagree, the US can say a lot more than any other country can about education. We produce some of the most well educated individuals on the face of the planet.
Now go step in front of a bus or whatever other mode of public transportation your shit third rate country provides.
HA HA - America Imports it's Academic Genuis! Your brainpower isn't American!
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HA HA - America Imports it's Academic Genuis! Your brainpower isn't American!
The VAST MAJORITY of students at these prestigious US Universities are Americans.
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The VAST MAJORITY of students at these prestigious US Universities are Americans.
What that got to do with the academic genius that America imports - most of those students will amount to nothing, America will be a third world labour force within 20 years! The brightest minds in America are imported! not created in America!
Americans are dumb, ignorant and more than anything arrogant! They hold up the best within there society as a symbol of there success, but those minds were purchased, the average american is an Idiot!
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I'm just gonna jump in here (and no doubt someone will take offense), but there's far too much uninformed nonsense about the UK going on in here. Whether people want to listen or not, that's up to you.
First off, the original post was discussing the 7/7 attacks and their coverage in the UK media. Whilst I agree that people should remember tragedies like this, at the same time endless coverage on the TV isn't acheiving anything at all. I find the same with the US and the way that 9/11 is mentioned so often. You can discuss it/cover it/remember it all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it happened, and I doubt it's going to bring any comfort to anyone related to someone involved in the tragedy. What most people don't seem to realise, is that none of these TV channels are showing the 9/11 or 7/7 remembrance footage because they give a shit about what happened. They're doing it because it's the thing to do, it makes them look like they care, and more importantly, it makes them money because people tune in. But that's another debate.
The underlying point in the OP was the way that the UK has lost any sense of patriotism, to the point where we aren't allowed to be ourselves now, for fear of being labelled racists. You can't put a flag up on St George's day, otherwise people think you're some kind of extremist, wanting to kick out any non-white Brit/immigrant, etc. And this is what pisses me off.
To understand the current state of the UK, you have to remember that 50-60 years ago, the Empire was still in full swing. Anyone from within the Empire could come to Britain and get work, and they did. The standard of living was higher, wages were better. We couldn't just deny them entry, as that was against the whole ideal of the Empire. Consider someone from Texas coming to NY to get work, there's no problem, cos they're still part of the whole. As the Empire slowly broke down, we didn't change our immigration/asylum policies though, and people continued to come in. So, over many decades, you've filled a country with people from so many different cultures, and more importantly, so many different religions, that there is bound to be some conflict.
Where the US differs in this, is the majority of your immigrants are from South America, mostly Hispanic, mostly Catholic or some Christian-based derivitive, so the religious conflicts are not as bad. The other nationalities you have are such a minority that they don't register on the scale really. So, you've got nowhere near the level of diversity you can find in the UK (or many other European countries for that matter).
Now, the important bit, the fact is that the majority of the immigrants are not the people causing any of the problems the UK is facing. The Asians tend to be very family oriented, and can be very insular, which causes aggravation from those who don't understand them. There is unfortunately a younger generation of Asians, who have fully grasped the Western culture of drink and drugs, and do seem to take advantage of the 'perks' being a minority carries (these being a general unwillingness on the part of the authorities/media to control them for fear of it becoming racially motivated). The Eastern Europeans are all hard-working, skilled to a good level, and willing to work for lower pay than the Brits, so that of course causes no end of hassle.
The biggest problem in the UK is twofold. Firstly, the media/government/authorities need to stop handling immigration and immigrants with kid gloves, not wanting to cause a scene. If people don't qualify to be here, kick them out, if they're here on asylum and commit crimes, kick them out, if they don't play by the rules, kick them out. It's fairly simple, but no-one's brave enough to tackle it.
Secondly, there is a lower class of people in Britain who are a complete waste of space. They have been raised in families where they weren't wanted, with parents who didn't work, and are quite happy to collect benefits for doing nothing. A lot of them will actively avoid work, by faking non-diagnosable illnesses like back problems, anxiety, stress, etc. so that they can be medically signed off. These same people will then be down the local pub on a Fri/Sat night, smoking and drinking with everyone else. They live on a mix of benefits, and high-repayment short-term loans, which they blow on flat-screen TV's, Xbox's and other fancy crap, whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of opportunity in the UK.
So, to summarise what has become a rather long post, until the UK government puts proper border controls in place, and then forces these lazy bastards back into work, then things will continue to slowly crumble.
As someone who owns my own business, and works 7 days a week to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, it boils my piss seeing these shitbags being paid Ł10k's to do absolutely nothing for it. But then, who's the sucker in that statement?
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Wow, no offense chief but does anyone has the time to read all this shit on a daily basis.
Brutal can't spell "to summarize", epic cap-talism/make your own choice and hate and potentially curry vibe.
are you indian Chief? (I don't mean being an indian-chief, literally; I mean the brown ones who think they are smarter than a 5th grader).
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I'm just gonna jump in here (and no doubt someone will take offense), but there's far too much uninformed nonsense about the UK going on in here. Whether people want to listen or not, that's up to you.
First off, the original post was discussing the 7/7 attacks and their coverage in the UK media. Whilst I agree that people should remember tragedies like this, at the same time endless coverage on the TV isn't acheiving anything at all. I find the same with the US and the way that 9/11 is mentioned so often. You can discuss it/cover it/remember it all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it happened, and I doubt it's going to bring any comfort to anyone related to someone involved in the tragedy. What most people don't seem to realise, is that none of these TV channels are showing the 9/11 or 7/7 remembrance footage because they give a shit about what happened. They're doing it because it's the thing to do, it makes them look like they care, and more importantly, it makes them money because people tune in. But that's another debate.
The underlying point in the OP was the way that the UK has lost any sense of patriotism, to the point where we aren't allowed to be ourselves now, for fear of being labelled racists. You can't put a flag up on St George's day, otherwise people think you're some kind of extremist, wanting to kick out any non-white Brit/immigrant, etc. And this is what pisses me off.
To understand the current state of the UK, you have to remember that 50-60 years ago, the Empire was still in full swing. Anyone from within the Empire could come to Britain and get work, and they did. The standard of living was higher, wages were better. We couldn't just deny them entry, as that was against the whole ideal of the Empire. Consider someone from Texas coming to NY to get work, there's no problem, cos they're still part of the whole. As the Empire slowly broke down, we didn't change our immigration/asylum policies though, and people continued to come in. So, over many decades, you've filled a country with people from so many different cultures, and more importantly, so many different religions, that there is bound to be some conflict.
Where the US differs in this, is the majority of your immigrants are from South America, mostly Hispanic, mostly Catholic or some Christian-based derivitive, so the religious conflicts are not as bad. The other nationalities you have are such a minority that they don't register on the scale really. So, you've got nowhere near the level of diversity you can find in the UK (or many other European countries for that matter).
Now, the important bit, the fact is that the majority of the immigrants are not the people causing any of the problems the UK is facing. The Asians tend to be very family oriented, and can be very insular, which causes aggravation from those who don't understand them. There is unfortunately a younger generation of Asians, who have fully grasped the Western culture of drink and drugs, and do seem to take advantage of the 'perks' being a minority carries (these being a general unwillingness on the part of the authorities/media to control them for fear of it becoming racially motivated). The Eastern Europeans are all hard-working, skilled to a good level, and willing to work for lower pay than the Brits, so that of course causes no end of hassle.
The biggest problem in the UK is twofold. Firstly, the media/government/authorities need to stop handling immigration and immigrants with kid gloves, not wanting to cause a scene. If people don't qualify to be here, kick them out, if they're here on asylum and commit crimes, kick them out, if they don't play by the rules, kick them out. It's fairly simple, but no-one's brave enough to tackle it.
Secondly, there is a lower class of people in Britain who are a complete waste of space. They have been raised in families where they weren't wanted, with parents who didn't work, and are quite happy to collect benefits for doing nothing. A lot of them will actively avoid work, by faking non-diagnosable illnesses like back problems, anxiety, stress, etc. so that they can be medically signed off. These same people will then be down the local pub on a Fri/Sat night, smoking and drinking with everyone else. They live on a mix of benefits, and high-repayment short-term loans, which they blow on flat-screen TV's, Xbox's and other fancy crap, whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of opportunity in the UK.
So, to summarise what has become a rather long post, until the UK government puts proper border controls in place, and then forces these lazy bastards back into work, then things will continue to slowly crumble.
As someone who owns my own business, and works 7 days a week to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, it boils my piss seeing these shitbags being paid Ł10k's to do absolutely nothing for it. But then, who's the sucker in that statement?
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Great post although I disagree with a few things
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What that got to do with the academic genius that America imports -
What's in it for the geniuses we import?
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While E-Kul is sitting on his American computer, using American Internet, listening to American music, probably eating American food, before watching some American gay porn.
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watching some American gay porn.
Outed.
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What's in it for the geniuses we import?
They get to escape the third world that America has been raping and pillaging for centuries!
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They get to escape the third world that America has been raping and pillaging for centuries!
"E-Kul", what is your affinity with what you call the "third world"?
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I live in the U.S. asswipe. I'm talking about education through the highschool level.
If your parents love you, they will send you to private school or live in an area with a great public school system. If not, prepare to be the 99% of scum.
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While E-Kul is sitting on his American computer, using American Internet, listening to American music, probably eating American food, before watching some American gay porn.
I live in Australia, computer like most products these days is mostly made from chinese parts and assembled somewhere in a third world, I Hate American Music, and I mean Hate it and American food is disgusting, I hate McDonalds and all the other fast food crap Americans eat, unless Americans invented Oatmeal and other grains, fruits and veg, then I don't eat American food, and American Porn is ridiculous, with there ever increasing pushing the envelope, DP's, large gang bangs, arse fucking, fake tits, huge cocks penetrating little vaginas etc etc and as for gay porn, I have never ever seen any, so I am not qualified to comment, anal sex between a man and a woman is enough of a turn off for me, let alone watching two men do this to each other, I have never understood the need to stick my cock into a dry, unlubricated female sphincter - the arse by nature is obviously not designed to be penetrated, yet Americans have a fascination without, it is obviously some sort of repressed need that Americans desire such entertainment. America produces nothing but crap TV and movies designed to keep it's citizens dumb! The best thing to come out of America is GETBIG!
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What that got to do with the academic genius that America imports - most of those students will amount to nothing, America will be a third world labour force within 20 years! The brightest minds in America are imported! not created in America!
Americans are dumb, ignorant and more than anything arrogant! They hold up the best within there society as a symbol of there success, but those minds were purchased, the average american is an Idiot!
Pfew thank god we have the Australian fucktards to save the world with their brilliance. Fuck off, they have provided nothing to the world.
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I live in Australia, computer like most products these days is mostly made from chinese parts and assembled somewhere in a third world, I Hate American Music, and I mean Hate it and American food is disgusting, I hate McDonalds and all the other fast food crap Americans eat, unless Americans invented Oatmeal and other grains, fruits and veg, then I don't eat American food, and American Porn is ridiculous, with there ever increasing pushing the envelope, DP's, large gang bangs, arse fucking, fake tits, huge cocks penetrating little vaginas etc etc and as for gay porn, I have never ever seen any, so I am not qualified to comment, anal sex between a man and a woman is enough of a turn off for me, let alone watching two men do this to each other, I have never understood the need to stick my cock into a dry, unlubricated female sphincter - the arse by nature is obviously not designed to be penetrated, yet Americans have a fascination without, it is obviously some sort of repressed need that Americans desire such entertainment. America produces nothing but crap TV and movies designed to keep it's citizens dumb! The best thing to come out of America is GETBIG!
Take a look at your windows or mac computer, then look at the electricity running it, the look at your light bulb giving your pathetic scum the ability to see in the dark.. now bow down to america and worship greatness. Without us, you would just be another farmer that was a son of a whore and british criminal.
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"E-Kul", what is your affinity with what you call the "third world"?
Oh, that's simple, I cant stand to watch murderous thugs expand their empire through mass murder and destruction and then lie about it and cover it up, unlike the average American I empathise with those who are treated unfairly and murdered for nothing more than the addictions of a sick first world. It's called altruism, a concern for the welfare of all of humanity! It's hard to love a narcissitic sociopath, which I believe is an apt description of the American Empire! I believe Humans are our greatest resource, and for a country to wipe them out enmasse is a tremendous waste and also endangers everyone, because those who are treated in such a way will ultimately seek revenge! Remember 9/11 & 7/7 - these are events created by the states itself, the american people have no idea what chaos and destruction their leaders are committing throughout the third world - and if America continues to treat humanity with the utter disdain it has done for a while now, you Americans will continue to be a target of Terrorism.
Noam Chomsky hit the nail on the head when he stated
"Everybody’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s a really easy way: stop participating in it."
obviously a statement aimed at the greatest Terrorist Country in the Modern World - The United States of America
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Take a look at your windows or mac computer, then look at the electricity running it, the look at your light bulb giving your pathetic scum the ability to see in the dark.. now bow down to america and worship greatness. Without us, you would just be another farmer that was a son of a whore and british criminal.
The Greeks discovered Electricity and The 1st light bulb was built by Humphry Davy - an ENGLISHMAN
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Pfew thank god we have the Australian fucktards to save the world with their brilliance. Fuck off, they have provided nothing to the world.
Well, when you consider Australian Academia is partly responsible for the recent proving of the god particle, it was the aussies who developed a machine capable of detecting such infinitesimal matter. no small feat indeed. (No Pun Intended)
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The Greeks discovered Electricity and The 1st light bulb was built by Humphry Davy - an ENGLISHMAN
I know who discovered electricity. However, I was referring who actually developed a system to make electricity USABLE. The US was the first to actual put this to use for people to actually get some benefit from it. Humphry Davy created an arc lamp, that is completely useless and is not anything close to the design in your house today. Hope this helps.
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They get to escape the third world that America has been raping and pillaging for centuries!
Why aren't all these geniuses escaping to where ever the hell you're from?
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I live in Australia, computer like most products these days is mostly made from chinese parts and assembled somewhere in a third world, I Hate American Music, and I mean Hate it and American food is disgusting, I hate McDonal
I read no further, you're a very unique individual. Prepare yourself for a life forever alone. :P
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I know who discovered electricity. However, I was referring who actually developed a system to make electricity USABLE. The US was the first to actual put this to use for people to actually get some benefit from it. Humphry Davy created an arc lamp, that is completely useless and is not anything close to the design in your house today. Hope this helps.
If you want to argue practical applications, the form of electricity we use today (Alternating Current) was invented by a Serb, Nikola Tesla. The standard of the time (Direct Current) invented by Thomas Eddison was quite inferior.
The two of them had a famous rivalry lasting for years.
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Pfew thank god we have the Australian fucktards to save the world with their brilliance. Fuck off, they have provided nothing to the world.
Wait a minute mister!!! You're wrong about that!
(http://media.screened.com/uploads/1/13003/420962-thrw.jpg)
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Noam Chomsky hit the nail on the head when he stated
"Everybody’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s a really easy way: stop participating in it."
obviously a statement aimed at the greatest Terrorist Country in the Modern World - The United States of America
Noam Chomsky is an American you fool, don't quote him. :-*
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The Greeks discovered Electricity and The 1st light bulb was built by Humphry Davy - an ENGLISHMAN
Take note here moron:
1. Greeks never harnessed Electricity
2. Humphry Davy invented the worthless light bulb that burnt peoples houses down, killing innocent children, you idiot. Thomas Edison invented the incandescent light we know today. Fluorescent lighting was also invented by an American.
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Well, when you consider Australian Academia is partly responsible for the recent proving of the god particle, it was the aussies who developed a machine capable of detecting such infinitesimal matter. no small feat indeed. (No Pun Intended)
Australia is partly responsible, and American Albert Einstein is the father of modern physics... :-*
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If you want to argue practical applications, the form of electricity we use today (Alternating Current) was invented by a Serb, Nikola Tesla. The standard of the time (Direct Current) invented by Thomas Eddison was quite inferior.
The two of them had a famous rivalry lasting for years.
Nikola Tesla was an American you dumb bastard.
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Nikola Tesla was an American you dumb bastard.
He was an ethnic Serb.
HTH
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The craziest thing about this argument is Australia is literally the United State's butt buddy.
Does E-Kul realize that Australian troops went to Iraq, and Afghanistan?
We're virtually the same country, except Australians are oppressed by their government and have no right to bear arms.
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He was an ethnic Serb.
HTH
I'm an Ethnic Anglo Saxon, ask your mom.
Citizenship and Ethnicity are not the same thing.
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All this harping back to what the US has done in the past... Yes, America WAS the envy of the world. A beacon of hope. An inspiration. Past tense. In the words of a famous philosopher:
"What have you done for me lately?"
Janet Jackson
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We're virtually the same country, except Australians are oppressed by their government and have no right to bear arms.
Sorry to read this chief. I wish you guys would've gone after the Brigay empire the way we decided to 230 years ago...
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I'm an Ethnic Anglo Saxon, ask your mom.
Citizenship and Ethnicity are not the same thing.
Tesla was an ethnic Serb, therefore he was a Serb. Can't make it any simpler than that, retard.
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The craziest thing about this argument is Australia is literally the United State's butt buddy.
Does E-Kul realize that Australian troops went to Iraq, and Afghanistan?
We're virtually the same country, except Australians are oppressed by their government and have no right to bear arms.
Of course I do, I understand Australia is a satellite state for America. I condemn our Government and have hated that for years we have allowed America to dictate to us and rob us of our sovereignty - First it was Britain and now America calling the shots. personally, I think Australia is way more fucked up than America, The Australian Government performed a PsyOp in Tasmania years ago to rob the Australians of their right to arm themselves, the Aussies are far more oppressed than America, I believe Australia is a testing ground for the NWO - the freedoms that the average Australian has lost is Disgusting, but it is hard to fight against a powerful Corporate Elite determined to control and manipulate it's population through the education system and elitist corporate owned Media.
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Sorry to read this chief. I wish you guys would've gone after the Brigay empire the way we decided to 230 years ago...
Friendly fire sir, I'm a fellow American... Over and Out
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Of course I do, I understand Australia is a satellite state for America. I condemn our Government and have hated that for years we have allowed America to dictate to us and rob us of our sovereignty - First it was Britain and now America calling the shots. personally, I think Australia is way more fucked up than America, The Australian Government performed a PsyOp in Tasmania years ago to rob the Australians of their right to arm themselves, the Aussies are far more oppressed than America, I believe Australia is a testing ground for the NWO - the freedoms that the average Australian has lost is Disgusting, but it is hard to fight against a powerful Corporate Elite determined to control and manipulate it's population through the education system and elitist corporate owned Media.
You and me are in agreement much more than you may think. Although I do believe it's hypocritical for me to enjoy the standard of living I do in the United States, and hate my homeland.
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Take note here moron:
1. Greeks never harnessed Electricity
2. Humphry Davy invented the worthless light bulb that burnt peoples houses down, killing innocent children, you idiot. Thomas Edison invented the incandescent light we know today. Fluorescent lighting was also invented by an American.
1) I never said the Greeks harnessed Electricity, I said they discovered it - Not Americans
2) Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb, he merely improved on the technology - far from being a Pioneer
3) Americans produce crap TV, crap automobiles, crap people!
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Sorry to read this chief. I wish you guys would've gone after the Brigay empire the way we decided to 230 years ago...
That's always fun to read. British expats fighting their British ancestors over taxes on tea. George Washington was probably eating crumpets during battles.
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Noam Chomsky is an American you fool, don't quote him. :-*
He maybe American born, but Chomsky is a Jew
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He maybe American born, but Chomsky is a Jew
Yeah, 5,275,000 million Jews call the United States home.
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Nikola Tesla was an American you dumb bastard.
Nikola Tesla is a Croatian who became an America Citizen
Like the surname Tesla is American!
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Nikola Tesla is a Croatian who became an America Citizen
Like the surname Tesla is American!
Dude, don't rely so exclusively on wikipedia and youtube to get your info. Even those few things you read, you read them wrong.
I've read two books on Tesla, he was an ethnic Serb, end of discussion.
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Yeah, 5,275,000 million Jews call the United States home.
1.3 million Jews called Auschwitz home... Doesn't mean they liked it.
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Nikola Tesla is a Croatian who became an America Citizen
Like the surname Tesla is American!
You're obliviously a product of superior foreign education... ::)
There's no such thing as an American Surname. We're all immigrants.
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You and me are in agreement much more than you may think. Although I do believe it's hypocritical for me to enjoy the standard of living I do in the United States, and hate my homeland.
I don't think you have to hate your homeland, obviously there are great things about the States and Australia - but the bad things have become a festering boil on the Planets Arse, and when the bad outweighs the good, the people will revolt in disgust! Chomsky is a fierce critic of American foreign policy, yet still states that America is a great Country! Go figure! I love my Country, it's the Government and the Elitists I hate!
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1.3 million Jews called Auschwitz home... Doesn't mean they liked it.
;D ;D ;D
You got me on that one!!!
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You're obliviously a product of superior foreign education... ::)
There's no such thing as an American Surname. We're all immigrants.
You're staring to get your arsehole prolapsed in this thread. Stick to your diet fatty and try to do only one thing at a time.
Regards.
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I don't think you have to hate your homeland, obviously there are great things about the States and Australia - but the bad things have become a festering boil on the Planets Arse, and when the bad outweighs the good, the people will revolt in disgust! Chomsky is a fierce critic of American foreign policy, yet still states that America is a great Country! Go figure! I love my Country, it's the Government and the Elitists I hate!
You're an extremist, and you won't get anywhere acting the way you do.
Things aren't as bad as you would like to believe. You're a typical guilty, white, spoiled first worlder.
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I don't think you have to hate your homeland, obviously there are great things about the States and Australia - but the bad things have become a festering boil on the Planets Arse, and when the bad outweighs the good, the people will revolt in disgust! Chomsky is a fierce critic of American foreign policy, yet still states that America is a great Country! Go figure! I love my Country, it's the Government and the Elitists I hate!
You love your country. Can you explain this to me? I have never understood nationalism. Where I live is a value-based decision, not related to where I happen to have been born.
Not being facetious, I really have never understood "national pride". Why feel proud that someone who happens to have been born in the same country as you achieves greatness?
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;D ;D ;D
You got me on that one!!!
I'm here to entertain. And to get banned by our great leader. ;D
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Dude, don't rely so exclusively on wikipedia and youtube to get your info. Even those few things you read, you read them wrong.
I've read two books on Tesla, he was an ethnic Serb, end of discussion.
Tesla himself described himself as a Serbian from Croatia, so I guess you are right, but the man was born in Croatia and that's good enough for me, plus both the Serbs and the Croatian s claim him to be there own!
Props for reading a book or two, that's rare for a getbigger!
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You love your country. Can you explain this to me? I have never understood nationalism. Where I live is a value-based decision, not related to where I happen to have been born.
Not being facetious, I really have never understood "national pride". Why feel proud that someone who happens to have been born in the same country as you achieves greatness?
Oh No! I Hate Nationalism - when I say I love my country, I love the landscape, it's nature, it's working class people, it's food, it's potential, it's opportunities! I consider myself a humanist and I am just grateful that I wasn't raised in a war torn third world! in that sense I am lucky! The only time I would fight for my country is if we were invaded and there was an attempt at occupation! This is the only time I think a Country should wage war - if Invaded!
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Oh No! I Hate Nationalism - when I say I love my country, I love the landscape, it's nature, it's working class people, it's food, it's potential, it's opportunities! I consider myself a humanist and I am just grateful that I wasn't raised in a war torn third world! in that sense I am lucky!
Ah, okay. We share this, then. Except I don't like people. :)
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Ah, okay. We share this, then. Except I don't like people. :)
Oh, you are a Misanthropist, I sometimes describe myself as that! But it is people like Chomsky, Assange and Pilger plus many others that give me hope!
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Oh, you are a Misanthropist, I sometimes describe myself as that! But it is people like Chomsky, Assange and Pilger plus many others that give me hope!
I wouldn't consider myself a misanthrope, as I don't actively dislike people on general principle. Not liking =/= actively disliking. I maintain a neutral stance.
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if we were invaded and there was an attempt at occupation! This is the only time I think a Country should wage war - if Invaded!
If you have proof of imminent attack, can you preemptively strike? Or do you wait until they've crossed your boarders?
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If you have proof of imminent attack, can you preemptively strike? Or do you wait until they've crossed your boarders?
If a preemptive strike is okay, then what value do borders have? Also, this is a slippery slope towards thought crime.
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Oh No! I Hate Nationalism
Does this not strongly align you with the New World Order?
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You love your country. Can you explain this to me? I have never understood nationalism.
Do you love or have pride in your family and friends? Do you value your ancestors, people with similar upbringings, belief, and way of life as your own?
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How most Britons feel in 2012:
Hilarious, and awesome! 8)
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Do you love or have pride in your family and friends? Do you value your ancestors, people with similar upbringings, belief, and way of life as your own?
Many questions in one.
Do I love my family (parents, sister, wife, everyone who I grew up with that died)? Mostly yes, but only those I actually knew. [edit] And only because by sheer luck they all treated me well[/edit]
Do I have pride in my family? No, at least not for the simple fact of existing. Existing is easy, 7 billion people are doing it right now.
Do I value my ancestors? Not simply for being my ancestors, no. If they did something noteworthy, then maybe yes. But then only those who actually did it. Just being related to someone who made a difference doesn't count.
Do I value people not related to me, for any reason? Not unless they did something amazing.
In short: I don't generalise. I'm not going to venerate 'the Dutch' because they (technically I should say 'we', but I honestly don't see myself as being any nationality) were once one of the world's superpowers. 99.99% of them were digging for potatoes with their hands in those days, so they did nothing praiseworthy. So by extension I cannot understand US (or any other) nationalism. Yes, a very small group of British expats actually fought the Brits during the American revolution. Meanwhile farmers farmed, millers milled, butchers butchered, and haters hated. Those other people did nothing worthy of praise, so why give it to them?
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Many questions in one.
Do I love my family (parents, sister, wife, everyone who I grew up with that died)? Mostly yes, but only those I actually knew. [edit] And only because by sheer luck they all treated me well[/edit]
Do I have pride in my family? No, at least not for the simple fact of existing. Existing is easy, 7 billion people are doing it right now.
Do I value my ancestors? Not simply for being my ancestors, no. If they did something noteworthy, then maybe yes. But then only those who actually did it. Just being related to someone who made a difference doesn't count.
Do I value people not related to me, for any reason? Not unless they did something amazing.
In short: I don't generalise. I'm not going to venerate 'the Dutch' because they (technically I should say 'we', but I honestly don't see myself as being any nationality) were once one of the world's superpowers. 99.99% of them were digging for potatoes with their hands in those days, so they did nothing praiseworthy. So by extension I cannot understand US (or any other) nationalism. Yes, a very small group of British expats actually fought the Brits during the American revolution. Meanwhile farmers farmed, millers milled, butchers butchered, and haters hated. Those other people did nothing worthy of praise, so why give it to them?
Fair enough! 8) I appreciate the response.
Can I ask you one more question? What's you're opinion on the overwhelming immigration of Muslims to the Netherlands? If they are in fact changing the "Dutch Identity", and culture do you mind it? What do you think of Geert Wilders?
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Fair enough! 8) I appreciate the response.
Can I ask you one more question? What's you're opinion on the overwhelming immigration of Muslims to the Netherlands? If they are in fact changing the "Dutch Identity", and culture do you mind it? What do you think of Geert Wilders?
There is no such thing as a Dutch identity. Even in such a small country, there are so many differences. Frysians have more in common with Skandinavians (at least in my experience) than with people from Amsterdam. Limburgers are seen by many as de facto Belgians. We have extremist liberals, but we also have Urk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urk). The typical Dutchman does not exist.
Muslims: fine with me. They have an influence on our culture which is already noticeable, but see above: it doesn't matter. Of course I despise the freeloading fuckers that use religion as an excuse to be lazy, criminal, or both. But I hate lily-white, purebred Batavian-stock Dutch freeloaders equally. If muslims come here, practice their religion, and work to make this country better, then more power to them.
Geert Wilders: I voted for him last time, simply because I don't like political correctness. He has had his influence, so he has now outlasted his usefulness. We now need real politicians. Unfortunately we won't be getting any of those, and this country will go to hell even further. Ah well, it's a big world out there. :)
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There is no such thing as a Dutch identity. Even in such a small country, there are so many differences. Frysians have more in common with Skandinavians (at least in my experience) than with people from Amsterdam. Limburgers are seen by many as de facto Belgians. We have extremist liberals, but we also have Urk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urk). The typical Dutchman does not exist.
Muslims: fine with me. They have an influence on our culture which is already noticeable, but see above: it doesn't matter. Of course I despise the freeloading fuckers that use religion as an excuse to be lazy, criminal, or both. But I hate lily-white, purebred Batavian-stock Dutch freeloaders equally. If muslims come here, practice their religion, and work to make this country better, then more power to them.
Geert Wilders: I voted for him last time, simply because I don't like political correctness. He has had his influence, so he has now outlasted his usefulness. We now need real politicians. Unfortunately we won't be getting any of those, and this country will go to hell even further. Ah well, it's a big world out there. :)
Enlightening posts, I appreciate it! 8)
I've read several account of European life and culture being desecrated by this "invasion". Honor Killings, Rapes, Murders, Etc... People claiming the neighborhoods that they've called home for 30+ years have been completely changed and over run with "homophobia, anti-Semitism and suppression of women".
I thought this Dutch identity was well known? It's contributed much to modern society. You and I are obviously on different wavelengths.
Anyway, keep up the good work my friend! 8)
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Enlightening posts, I appreciate it! 8)
You're welcome. :)
I've read several account of European life and culture being desecrated by this "invasion". Honor Killings, Rapes, Murders, Etc... People claiming the neighborhoods that they've called home for 30+ years have been completely changed and over run with "homophobia, anti-Semitism and suppression of women".
And this is somewhat true. Then again (speaking for Holland only) the problem really isn't that big. Maybe that's just a matter of time? But interbreeding will sort this out soon enough, I think. The us-vs-them cannot be maintained then. You can't have 3rd generation Moroccans saying "we only rape and molest non-Moroccans" if the background is too diluted. And interbreeding is happening quite a lot. Plus most are decent to begin with. Neo nazis have a bad rap too, not because they are numerous, but because they stand out.
I thought this Dutch identity was well known? It's contributed much to modern society. You and I are obviously on different wavelengths.
There's a dichotomy between what the Dutch preach, and what they do. We preach equality and freedom to all, yet many here have been, and always will be, closed-minded bigots. Yes, an enlightened minority has ensured gay rights. But the plebs isn't all that keen on it. Same with race. Official hiring practices are extremely non-discriminatory. There's even a proposal (maybe shot down now?) where names on job applications should be blocked out, so that an employer cannot discriminate based on the potential race of the applicant, based solely on the name. But most Dutch do still discriminate.
So do as we say, not as we do.
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Wien Neerlandsch bloed in de aders vloeit, van vreemde smetten vrij ;D
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If you have proof of imminent attack, can you preemptively strike? Or do you wait until they've crossed your boarders?
You mean like Weapons of Mass Destruction type of proof! Like another poster said pre-emptive action borders on Thought Crime, but in the modern world of NUKES, I think it could be argued the need for Pre-emptive action - but I do believe that Violence begets Violence - Peace should always be the motivation when relating with others. I don't pretend to know the answers to such questions though, it is a complicated world we live in. It is hard enough for an individual to create consistent peaceful relations with his own friends and family - but it must remain the central focus of any good relationship!
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Wien Neerlandsch bloed in de aders vloeit, van vreemde smetten vrij ;D
99% is zo puur Nederlands als ons koningshuis. ;D
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You mean like Weapons of Mass Destruction type of proof! Like another poster said pre-emptive action borders on Thought Crime, but in the modern world of NUKES, I think it could be argued the need for Pre-emptive action - but I do believe that Violence begets Violence - Peace should always be the motivation when relating with others. I don't pretend to know the answers to such questions though, it is a complicated world we live in. It is hard enough for an individual to create consistent peaceful relations with his own friends and family - but it must remain the central focus of any good relationship!
Hey, your first good post of the entire thread! Congradulations 8)
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Hey, your first good post of the entire thread! Congradulations 8)
Ditto!
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Ditto!
lol ;D
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Wow, no offense chief but does anyone has the time to read all this shit on a daily basis.
Brutal can't spell "to summarize", epic cap-talism/make your own choice and hate and potentially curry vibe.
are you indian Chief? (I don't mean being an indian-chief, literally; I mean the brown ones who think they are smarter than a 5th grader).
Some obviously did. And I'm fairly sure you're bright enough to realise that 'summarize' is an Americanised spelling of the English word.
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