What the fuck is wrong with the UK?

[Radical Plato]

The VAST MAJORITY of students at these prestigious US Universities are Americans.

What that got to do with the academic genius that America imports - most of those students will amount to nothing, America will be  a third world labour force within 20 years!  The brightest minds in America are imported! not created in America!

Americans are dumb, ignorant and more than anything arrogant!  They hold up the best within there society as a symbol of there success, but those minds were purchased, the average american is an Idiot!

[Alex23]

I'm just gonna jump in here (and no doubt someone will take offense), but there's far too much uninformed nonsense about the UK going on in here.  Whether people want to listen or not, that's up to you.

First off, the original post was discussing the 7/7 attacks and their coverage in the UK media.  Whilst I agree that people should remember tragedies like this, at the same time endless coverage on the TV isn't acheiving anything at all.  I find the same with the US and the way that 9/11 is mentioned so often.  You can discuss it/cover it/remember it all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it happened, and I doubt it's going to bring any comfort to anyone related to someone involved in the tragedy.  What most people don't seem to realise, is that none of these TV channels are showing the 9/11 or 7/7 remembrance footage because they give a shit about what happened.  They're doing it because it's the thing to do, it makes them look like they care, and more importantly, it makes them money because people tune in.  But that's another debate.

The underlying point in the OP was the way that the UK has lost any sense of patriotism, to the point where we aren't allowed to be ourselves now, for fear of being labelled racists.  You can't put a flag up on St George's day, otherwise people think you're some kind of extremist, wanting to kick out any non-white Brit/immigrant, etc.  And this is what pisses me off.

To understand the current state of the UK, you have to remember that 50-60 years ago, the Empire was still in full swing.  Anyone from within the Empire could come to Britain and get work, and they did.  The standard of living was higher, wages were better.  We couldn't just deny them entry, as that was against the whole ideal of the Empire.  Consider someone from Texas coming to NY to get work, there's no problem, cos they're still part of the whole.  As the Empire slowly broke down, we didn't change our immigration/asylum policies though, and people continued to come in.  So, over many decades, you've filled a country with people from so many different cultures, and more importantly, so many different religions, that there is bound to be some conflict.

Where the US differs in this, is the majority of your immigrants are from South America, mostly Hispanic, mostly Catholic or some Christian-based derivitive, so the religious conflicts are not as bad.  The other nationalities you have are such a minority that they don't register on the scale really.  So, you've got nowhere near the level of diversity you can find in the UK (or many other European countries for that matter).

Now, the important bit, the fact is that the majority of the immigrants are not the people causing any of the problems the UK is facing.  The Asians tend to be very family oriented, and can be very insular, which causes aggravation from those who don't understand them.  There is unfortunately a younger generation of Asians, who have fully grasped the Western culture of drink and drugs, and do seem to take advantage of the 'perks' being a minority carries (these being a general unwillingness on the part of the authorities/media to control them for fear of it becoming racially motivated).  The Eastern Europeans are all hard-working, skilled to a good level, and willing to work for lower pay than the Brits, so that of course causes no end of hassle.

The biggest problem in the UK is twofold.  Firstly, the media/government/authorities need to stop handling immigration and immigrants with kid gloves, not wanting to cause a scene.  If people don't qualify to be here, kick them out, if they're here on asylum and commit crimes, kick them out, if they don't play by the rules, kick them out.  It's fairly simple, but no-one's brave enough to tackle it.

Secondly, there is a lower class of people in Britain who are a complete waste of space.  They have been raised in families where they weren't wanted, with parents who didn't work, and are quite happy to collect benefits for doing nothing.  A lot of them will actively avoid work, by faking non-diagnosable illnesses like back problems, anxiety, stress, etc. so that they can be medically signed off.  These same people will then be down the local pub on a Fri/Sat night, smoking and drinking with everyone else.  They live on a mix of benefits, and high-repayment short-term loans, which they blow on flat-screen TV's, Xbox's and other fancy crap, whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of opportunity in the UK.

So, to summarise what has become a rather long post, until the UK government puts proper border controls in place, and then forces these lazy bastards back into work, then things will continue to slowly crumble.  

As someone who owns my own business, and works 7 days a week to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, it boils my piss seeing these shitbags being paid £10k's to do absolutely nothing for it.  But then, who's the sucker in that statement?

 

Wow, no offense chief but does anyone has the time to read all this shit on a daily basis.

Brutal can't spell "to summarize", epic cap-talism/make your own choice and hate and potentially curry vibe.

are you indian Chief? (I don't mean being an indian-chief, literally; I mean the brown ones who think they are smarter than a 5th grader).

[Raymondo]

I'm just gonna jump in here (and no doubt someone will take offense), but there's far too much uninformed nonsense about the UK going on in here.  Whether people want to listen or not, that's up to you.

First off, the original post was discussing the 7/7 attacks and their coverage in the UK media.  Whilst I agree that people should remember tragedies like this, at the same time endless coverage on the TV isn't acheiving anything at all.  I find the same with the US and the way that 9/11 is mentioned so often.  You can discuss it/cover it/remember it all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it happened, and I doubt it's going to bring any comfort to anyone related to someone involved in the tragedy.  What most people don't seem to realise, is that none of these TV channels are showing the 9/11 or 7/7 remembrance footage because they give a shit about what happened.  They're doing it because it's the thing to do, it makes them look like they care, and more importantly, it makes them money because people tune in.  But that's another debate.

The underlying point in the OP was the way that the UK has lost any sense of patriotism, to the point where we aren't allowed to be ourselves now, for fear of being labelled racists.  You can't put a flag up on St George's day, otherwise people think you're some kind of extremist, wanting to kick out any non-white Brit/immigrant, etc.  And this is what pisses me off.

To understand the current state of the UK, you have to remember that 50-60 years ago, the Empire was still in full swing.  Anyone from within the Empire could come to Britain and get work, and they did.  The standard of living was higher, wages were better.  We couldn't just deny them entry, as that was against the whole ideal of the Empire.  Consider someone from Texas coming to NY to get work, there's no problem, cos they're still part of the whole.  As the Empire slowly broke down, we didn't change our immigration/asylum policies though, and people continued to come in.  So, over many decades, you've filled a country with people from so many different cultures, and more importantly, so many different religions, that there is bound to be some conflict.

Where the US differs in this, is the majority of your immigrants are from South America, mostly Hispanic, mostly Catholic or some Christian-based derivitive, so the religious conflicts are not as bad.  The other nationalities you have are such a minority that they don't register on the scale really.  So, you've got nowhere near the level of diversity you can find in the UK (or many other European countries for that matter).

Now, the important bit, the fact is that the majority of the immigrants are not the people causing any of the problems the UK is facing.  The Asians tend to be very family oriented, and can be very insular, which causes aggravation from those who don't understand them.  There is unfortunately a younger generation of Asians, who have fully grasped the Western culture of drink and drugs, and do seem to take advantage of the 'perks' being a minority carries (these being a general unwillingness on the part of the authorities/media to control them for fear of it becoming racially motivated).  The Eastern Europeans are all hard-working, skilled to a good level, and willing to work for lower pay than the Brits, so that of course causes no end of hassle.

The biggest problem in the UK is twofold.  Firstly, the media/government/authorities need to stop handling immigration and immigrants with kid gloves, not wanting to cause a scene.  If people don't qualify to be here, kick them out, if they're here on asylum and commit crimes, kick them out, if they don't play by the rules, kick them out.  It's fairly simple, but no-one's brave enough to tackle it.

Secondly, there is a lower class of people in Britain who are a complete waste of space.  They have been raised in families where they weren't wanted, with parents who didn't work, and are quite happy to collect benefits for doing nothing.  A lot of them will actively avoid work, by faking non-diagnosable illnesses like back problems, anxiety, stress, etc. so that they can be medically signed off.  These same people will then be down the local pub on a Fri/Sat night, smoking and drinking with everyone else.  They live on a mix of benefits, and high-repayment short-term loans, which they blow on flat-screen TV's, Xbox's and other fancy crap, whilst at the same time bemoaning the lack of opportunity in the UK.

So, to summarise what has become a rather long post, until the UK government puts proper border controls in place, and then forces these lazy bastards back into work, then things will continue to slowly crumble.  

As someone who owns my own business, and works 7 days a week to put food on the table and keep a roof over my head, it boils my piss seeing these shitbags being paid £10k's to do absolutely nothing for it.  But then, who's the sucker in that statement?

 

Great post although I disagree with a few things

[Roger Bacon]

What that got to do with the academic genius that America imports -

What's in it for the geniuses we import?

[Roger Bacon]

While E-Kul is sitting on his American computer, using American Internet, listening to American music, probably eating American food, before watching some American gay porn.

[Alex23]

watching some American gay porn.

Outed.

[Radical Plato]

What's in it for the geniuses we import?

They get to escape the third world that America has been raping and pillaging for centuries!

[Alex23]

They get to escape the third world that America has been raping and pillaging for centuries!

"E-Kul", what is your affinity with what you call the "third world"?

[Mattyh7688]

I live in the U.S. asswipe.  I'm talking about education through the highschool level.

If your parents love you, they will send you to private school or live in an area with a great public school system. If not, prepare to be the 99% of scum.

[Radical Plato]

While E-Kul is sitting on his American computer, using American Internet, listening to American music, probably eating American food, before watching some American gay porn.

I live in Australia, computer like most products these days is mostly made from chinese parts and assembled somewhere in a third world, I Hate American Music, and I mean Hate it and American food is disgusting, I hate McDonalds and all the other fast food crap Americans eat, unless Americans invented Oatmeal and other grains, fruits and veg, then I don't eat American food, and American Porn is ridiculous, with there ever increasing pushing the envelope, DP's, large gang bangs, arse fucking, fake tits, huge cocks penetrating little vaginas etc etc and as for gay porn, I have never ever seen any, so I am not qualified to comment, anal sex between a man and a woman is enough of a turn off for me, let alone watching two men do this to each other, I have never understood the need to stick my cock into a dry, unlubricated female sphincter - the arse by nature is obviously not designed to be penetrated, yet Americans have a fascination without, it is obviously some sort of repressed need that Americans desire such entertainment.  America produces nothing but crap TV and movies designed to keep it's citizens dumb!  The best thing to come out of America is GETBIG!

[Mattyh7688]

What that got to do with the academic genius that America imports - most of those students will amount to nothing, America will be  a third world labour force within 20 years!  The brightest minds in America are imported! not created in America!

Americans are dumb, ignorant and more than anything arrogant!  They hold up the best within there society as a symbol of there success, but those minds were purchased, the average american is an Idiot!

Pfew thank god we have the Australian fucktards to save the world with their brilliance. Fuck off, they have provided nothing to the world.

[Mattyh7688]

I live in Australia, computer like most products these days is mostly made from chinese parts and assembled somewhere in a third world, I Hate American Music, and I mean Hate it and American food is disgusting, I hate McDonalds and all the other fast food crap Americans eat, unless Americans invented Oatmeal and other grains, fruits and veg, then I don't eat American food, and American Porn is ridiculous, with there ever increasing pushing the envelope, DP's, large gang bangs, arse fucking, fake tits, huge cocks penetrating little vaginas etc etc and as for gay porn, I have never ever seen any, so I am not qualified to comment, anal sex between a man and a woman is enough of a turn off for me, let alone watching two men do this to each other, I have never understood the need to stick my cock into a dry, unlubricated female sphincter - the arse by nature is obviously not designed to be penetrated, yet Americans have a fascination without, it is obviously some sort of repressed need that Americans desire such entertainment.  America produces nothing but crap TV and movies designed to keep it's citizens dumb!  The best thing to come out of America is GETBIG!

Take a look at your windows or mac computer, then look at the electricity running it, the look at your light bulb giving your pathetic scum the ability to see in the dark.. now bow down to america and worship greatness. Without us, you would just be another farmer that was a son of a whore and british criminal.

[Radical Plato]

"E-Kul", what is your affinity with what you call the "third world"?

Oh, that's simple, I cant stand to watch murderous thugs expand their empire through mass murder and destruction and then lie about it and cover it up, unlike the average American I empathise with those who are treated unfairly and murdered for nothing more than the addictions of a sick first world.  It's called altruism, a concern for the welfare of all of humanity!  It's hard to love a narcissitic sociopath, which I believe is an apt description of the American Empire!  I believe Humans are our greatest resource, and for a country to wipe them out enmasse is a tremendous waste and also endangers everyone, because those who are treated in such a way will ultimately seek revenge!  Remember 9/11 & 7/7 - these are events created by the states itself, the american people have no idea what chaos and destruction their leaders are committing throughout the third world - and if America continues to treat humanity with the utter disdain it has done for a while now, you Americans will continue to be a target of Terrorism.  

Noam Chomsky hit the nail on the head when he stated
"Everybody’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s a really easy way: stop participating in it."
 obviously a statement aimed at the greatest Terrorist Country in the Modern World - The United States of America

[Radical Plato]

Take a look at your windows or mac computer, then look at the electricity running it, the look at your light bulb giving your pathetic scum the ability to see in the dark.. now bow down to america and worship greatness. Without us, you would just be another farmer that was a son of a whore and british criminal.

The Greeks discovered Electricity and The 1st light bulb was built by Humphry Davy - an ENGLISHMAN

[Radical Plato]

Pfew thank god we have the Australian fucktards to save the world with their brilliance. Fuck off, they have provided nothing to the world.

Well, when you consider Australian Academia is partly responsible for the recent proving of the god particle, it was the aussies who developed a machine capable of detecting such infinitesimal matter.  no small feat indeed. (No Pun Intended)

[Mattyh7688]

The Greeks discovered Electricity and The 1st light bulb was built by Humphry Davy - an ENGLISHMAN

I know who discovered electricity. However, I was referring who actually developed a system to make electricity USABLE. The US was the first to actual put this to use for people to actually get some benefit from it. Humphry Davy created an arc lamp, that is completely useless and is not anything close to the design in your house today. Hope this helps.

[Roger Bacon]

They get to escape the third world that America has been raping and pillaging for centuries!

Why aren't all these geniuses escaping to where ever the hell you're from?

[Roger Bacon]

I live in Australia, computer like most products these days is mostly made from chinese parts and assembled somewhere in a third world, I Hate American Music, and I mean Hate it and American food is disgusting, I hate McDonal

I read no further, you're a very unique individual.  Prepare yourself for a life forever alone. 

[Raymondo]

I know who discovered electricity. However, I was referring who actually developed a system to make electricity USABLE. The US was the first to actual put this to use for people to actually get some benefit from it. Humphry Davy created an arc lamp, that is completely useless and is not anything close to the design in your house today. Hope this helps.

If you want to argue practical applications, the form of electricity we use today (Alternating Current) was invented by a Serb, Nikola Tesla. The standard of the time (Direct Current) invented by Thomas Eddison was quite inferior.

The two of them had a famous rivalry lasting for years.

[Roger Bacon]

Pfew thank god we have the Australian fucktards to save the world with their brilliance. Fuck off, they have provided nothing to the world.

Wait a minute mister!!!  You're wrong about that!

[Roger Bacon]

Noam Chomsky hit the nail on the head when he stated
"Everybody’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s a really easy way: stop participating in it."
 obviously a statement aimed at the greatest Terrorist Country in the Modern World - The United States of America

Noam Chomsky is an American you fool, don't quote him. 

[Roger Bacon]

The Greeks discovered Electricity and The 1st light bulb was built by Humphry Davy - an ENGLISHMAN

Take note here moron:

1. Greeks never harnessed Electricity

2. Humphry Davy invented the worthless light bulb that burnt peoples houses down, killing innocent children, you idiot.  Thomas Edison invented the incandescent light we know today.  Fluorescent lighting was also invented by an American. 

[Roger Bacon]

Well, when you consider Australian Academia is partly responsible for the recent proving of the god particle, it was the aussies who developed a machine capable of detecting such infinitesimal matter.  no small feat indeed. (No Pun Intended)

Australia is partly responsible, and American Albert Einstein is the father of modern physics... 

[Roger Bacon]

If you want to argue practical applications, the form of electricity we use today (Alternating Current) was invented by a Serb, Nikola Tesla. The standard of the time (Direct Current) invented by Thomas Eddison was quite inferior.

The two of them had a famous rivalry lasting for years.

Nikola Tesla was an American you dumb bastard.

[Raymondo]

Nikola Tesla was an American you dumb bastard.

He was an ethnic Serb.

HTH