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You're a liar, Willard!
The web of Romney lies continues to unravel – he was at Bain Capital long after he said he left
By Eclectablog on July 12, 2012
Did you think we wouldn’t find out or what, Mitt???
There is more evidence out today showing that Mitt Romney has been lying for years about his position at Bain Capital. As I wrote about earlier this week (“Mitt Romney is lying repeatedly to hide his past as a job-killing tax cheat”), Romney’s claims that he left Bain Capital in 1999, before much of the outsourcing and company bankrupting took place, have proven to be false.
Today, the Boston Globe has a devastating new piece out titled “Mitt Romney stayed at Bain 3 years longer than he stated”. In it, they reveal an additional NINE SEC filings showing that Romney was at the helm through 2002.
Government documents filed by Mitt Romney and Bain Capital say Romney remained chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time.
Romney has said he left Bain in 1999 to lead the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, ending his role in the company. But public Securities and Exchange Commission documents filed later by Bain Capital state he remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”
Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.
The timing of Romney’s departure from Bain is a key point of contention because he has said his resignation in February 1999 meant he was not responsible for Bain Capital companies that went bankrupt or laid off workers after that date. {…}
The Globe found nine SEC filings submitted by four different business entities after February 1999 that describe Romney as Bain Capital’s boss; some show him with managerial control over five Bain Capital entities that were formed in January 2002, according to records in Delaware, where they were incorporated.
This is not trivial stuff. If he did, indeed, lie about this, it’s a BFD.
“You can’t say statements filed with the SEC are meaningless. This is a fact in an SEC filing,” said Roberta S. Karmel, now a professor at Brooklyn Law School.
“It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to say he was technically in charge on paper but he had nothing to do with Bain’s operations,” Karmel continued. “Was he getting paid? He’s the sole stockholder. Are you telling me he owned the company but had no say in its investments?” {…}
“If someone invested with Bain Capital because they believed Mitt Romney was a great fund manager, and it turns out he wasn’t really doing anything, that could be considered a misrepresentation to the investor,’’ she said. “It’s a theory that could be used in a lawsuit against him.”
Indeed, some are beginning to ask whether or not he violated federal law. From Politico:
Earlier this month, FactCheck.org stated that if Mitt Romney had not left Bain Capital in 1999, he “would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999.”
FactCheck.org made that argument to dismiss complaints by President Barack Obama’s campaign, but a new Boston Globe report on Romney’s true tenure at Bain Capital — which reportedly lasted until 2002, three years longer than Romney has stated — brings FactCheck.org’s statement into sharp relief. {…}
[FactCheck.org said at the time ]“In fact, if the Obama campaign were correct, Romney would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999.”
On a conference call today with reporters, Obama for America General Counsel Bob Bauer told us, “Romney IS the controlling person [according to the SEC filings]. The consequences of this misrepresentation are very, very serious.”
Also on the call was Deputy Campaign Director Steffanie Cutter. She described Mitt Romney as “playing by a different set of rules” than previous candidates for president, referring to the precedent set by Romney’s own father of releasing several years of tax returns. She described Romney as “the most secretive candidate to run for president since Richard Nixon”, referring to his hiding of tax returns, taking hard drives from state computers when he left as governor of Massachusetts, not disclosing potential conflicts of interest during his time running the Olympics and not disclosing who is his campaign fundraising bundlers are.
At every turn, at every piece of Mitt Romney’s record or credential, whether it’s Bain, whether it’s his own personal finances, whether it’s who is raising money for him or his time in the Statehouse in Massachusetts, there is an enormous cloud over Mitt Romney’s record because of his penchant for secrecy and not wanting to be transparent and open with the American people.
David Corn at Mother Jones has even more to add to the conversation. In a blockbuster piece yesterday, he revealed that Bain Capital, under the guidance of Mitt Romney, invested millions of dollars in a Chinese firm that profited heavily from American companies outsourcing their work.
On April 17, 1998, Brookside Capital Partners Fund, a Bain Capital affiliate, filed a report with the Securities and Exchange Commission noting that it had acquired 6.13 percent of Hong Kong-based Global-Tech Appliances, which manufactured household appliances in a production facility in the industrial city of Dongguan, China. That August, according to another SEC filing, Brookside upped its interest in Global-Tech to 10.3 percent. Both SEC filings identified Romney as the person in control of this investment: “Mr. W. Mitt Romney is the sole shareholder, sole director, President and Chief Executive Officer of Brookside Inc. and thus is the controlling person of Brookside Inc.” Each of these documents was signed by Domenic Ferrante, a managing director of Brookside and Bain. {…}
At the time Romney was acquiring shares in Global-Tech, the firm publicly acknowledged that its strategy was to profit from prominent US companies outsourcing production abroad.
Note that the timing on this is even before Romney’s stated departure date from Bain in 1999.
This makes Romney’s claims that President Obama is the “Outsourcer-in-Chief” a bit laughable. As Steffanie Cutter explained during the conference call today, Mitt Romney is telling us that he is more prepared to run the country because of his business experience. Since Bain Capital’s success was largely wrapped up in downsizing American companies and sending the jobs overseas, it’s very much relevant to ask what he was involved with at Bain, when he was involved with it, and what that experience tells us about how he would run our country.
When Mitt Romney tells us that his understanding of the American economy is different than that of President Obama’s, I tend to agree. The business experience that led to his understanding of our economy would make him a dangerous president.
Just like Russell "Rush" Simmons! ;D
Romney didn't earn anything. He waged a dishonest campaign and outspent everyone 20 to 1
Romney is the foil. Anyone not seeing that is delusional. Romney s a piece of shit.
Because they know Romney is a time bomb waiting to blow that will give Obama a second term on a platter.
I fucking hate romney.
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Too huge!
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you know what you're getting with romney.
Anyone who is great at global finance is also damn good at doing all those shady things that most americans dislike about the super wealthy.
He can't just brag about how good he is "at business" without taking responsibility for the things Bain did like outsourcing.
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OUCH...PWNED
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You're a liar, Willard!
The web of Romney lies continues to unravel – he was at Bain Capital long after he said he left
By Eclectablog on July 12, 2012
Did you think we wouldn’t find out or what, Mitt???
There is more evidence out today showing that Mitt Romney has been lying for years about his position at Bain Capital. As I wrote about earlier this week (“Mitt Romney is lying repeatedly to hide his past as a job-killing tax cheat”), Romney’s claims that he left Bain Capital in 1999, before much of the outsourcing and company bankrupting took place, have proven to be false.
Today, the Boston Globe has a devastating new piece out titled “Mitt Romney stayed at Bain 3 years longer than he stated”. In it, they reveal an additional NINE SEC filings showing that Romney was at the helm through 2002.
Government documents filed by Mitt Romney and Bain Capital say Romney remained chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time.
Romney has said he left Bain in 1999 to lead the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, ending his role in the company. But public Securities and Exchange Commission documents filed later by Bain Capital state he remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”
Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.
The timing of Romney’s departure from Bain is a key point of contention because he has said his resignation in February 1999 meant he was not responsible for Bain Capital companies that went bankrupt or laid off workers after that date. {…}
The Globe found nine SEC filings submitted by four different business entities after February 1999 that describe Romney as Bain Capital’s boss; some show him with managerial control over five Bain Capital entities that were formed in January 2002, according to records in Delaware, where they were incorporated.
This is not trivial stuff. If he did, indeed, lie about this, it’s a BFD.
“You can’t say statements filed with the SEC are meaningless. This is a fact in an SEC filing,” said Roberta S. Karmel, now a professor at Brooklyn Law School.
“It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to say he was technically in charge on paper but he had nothing to do with Bain’s operations,” Karmel continued. “Was he getting paid? He’s the sole stockholder. Are you telling me he owned the company but had no say in its investments?” {…}
“If someone invested with Bain Capital because they believed Mitt Romney was a great fund manager, and it turns out he wasn’t really doing anything, that could be considered a misrepresentation to the investor,’’ she said. “It’s a theory that could be used in a lawsuit against him.”
Indeed, some are beginning to ask whether or not he violated federal law. From Politico:
Earlier this month, FactCheck.org stated that if Mitt Romney had not left Bain Capital in 1999, he “would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999.”
FactCheck.org made that argument to dismiss complaints by President Barack Obama’s campaign, but a new Boston Globe report on Romney’s true tenure at Bain Capital — which reportedly lasted until 2002, three years longer than Romney has stated — brings FactCheck.org’s statement into sharp relief. {…}
[FactCheck.org said at the time ]“In fact, if the Obama campaign were correct, Romney would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999.”
On a conference call today with reporters, Obama for America General Counsel Bob Bauer told us, “Romney IS the controlling person [according to the SEC filings]. The consequences of this misrepresentation are very, very serious.”
Also on the call was Deputy Campaign Director Steffanie Cutter. She described Mitt Romney as “playing by a different set of rules” than previous candidates for president, referring to the precedent set by Romney’s own father of releasing several years of tax returns. She described Romney as “the most secretive candidate to run for president since Richard Nixon”, referring to his hiding of tax returns, taking hard drives from state computers when he left as governor of Massachusetts, not disclosing potential conflicts of interest during his time running the Olympics and not disclosing who is his campaign fundraising bundlers are.
At every turn, at every piece of Mitt Romney’s record or credential, whether it’s Bain, whether it’s his own personal finances, whether it’s who is raising money for him or his time in the Statehouse in Massachusetts, there is an enormous cloud over Mitt Romney’s record because of his penchant for secrecy and not wanting to be transparent and open with the American people.
David Corn at Mother Jones has even more to add to the conversation. In a blockbuster piece yesterday, he revealed that Bain Capital, under the guidance of Mitt Romney, invested millions of dollars in a Chinese firm that profited heavily from American companies outsourcing their work.
On April 17, 1998, Brookside Capital Partners Fund, a Bain Capital affiliate, filed a report with the Securities and Exchange Commission noting that it had acquired 6.13 percent of Hong Kong-based Global-Tech Appliances, which manufactured household appliances in a production facility in the industrial city of Dongguan, China. That August, according to another SEC filing, Brookside upped its interest in Global-Tech to 10.3 percent. Both SEC filings identified Romney as the person in control of this investment: “Mr. W. Mitt Romney is the sole shareholder, sole director, President and Chief Executive Officer of Brookside Inc. and thus is the controlling person of Brookside Inc.” Each of these documents was signed by Domenic Ferrante, a managing director of Brookside and Bain. {…}
At the time Romney was acquiring shares in Global-Tech, the firm publicly acknowledged that its strategy was to profit from prominent US companies outsourcing production abroad.
Note that the timing on this is even before Romney’s stated departure date from Bain in 1999.
This makes Romney’s claims that President Obama is the “Outsourcer-in-Chief” a bit laughable. As Steffanie Cutter explained during the conference call today, Mitt Romney is telling us that he is more prepared to run the country because of his business experience. Since Bain Capital’s success was largely wrapped up in downsizing American companies and sending the jobs overseas, it’s very much relevant to ask what he was involved with at Bain, when he was involved with it, and what that experience tells us about how he would run our country.
When Mitt Romney tells us that his understanding of the American economy is different than that of President Obama’s, I tend to agree. The business experience that led to his understanding of our economy would make him a dangerous president.
Just like Russell "Rush" Simmons! ;D
Aside from making a complete ass yourself on a daily basis are you also into self mutilation as well?
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Aside from making a complete ass yourself on a daily basis are you also into self mutilation as well?
That's your retort?
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"I never thought of what I do for a living as job creation. … The primary goal of private equity is to create wealth for your investors."
–Marc B. Wolpow, former managing partner at Bain Capital, the firm where Mitt Romney was CEO, who worked closely with Romney for nine years
LOS ANGELES TIMES, 12/3/11
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This will be 500th question that no one will answer but I will try again. Five me.ONE good reason why Obama should be reelected. Even libs can't answer this....but then again we are talking about libs...haha.
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This will be 500th question that no one will answer but I will try again. Five me.ONE good reason why Obama should be reelected. Even libs can't answer this....but then again we are talking about libs...haha.
So you're choosing to not comment on the articles?...Thought so...
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This will be 500th question that no one will answer but I will try again. Five me.ONE good reason why Obama should be reelected. Even libs can't answer this....but then again we are talking about libs...haha.
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Do any of you idiots realize that the government is controlled by big corporations and your vote means jack shit ???
LOL @ arguing about something you have no control over. :D
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Do any of you idiots realize that the government is controlled by big corporations and your vote means jack shit ???
LOL @ arguing about something you have no control over. :D
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NZMM looks at this as a reverse gangbang.
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Do any of you idiots realize that the government is controlled by big corporations and your vote means jack shit ???
LOL @ arguing about something you have no control over. :D
Exactly
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Since no one .....again, can't answer the question, I will just say that Governor Sununu is pwning the FUCK out of Juan Williams right now on this very subject. I stand by my Benny comment....he's an idiot. Haha
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so romney lied.. kinda like obama did about universal health care.. he said it was not a tax but had his lawyers argue in fromt of the supreme court that it actual was tax.. the supreme court said it was not constitutional as written but since obamas lawyers argued that it was a tax it was deemed constitutional.. so now we have obamacare that is actually ruled a tax that 76% of the cost will be paid for by those making under 200,000 a year.. so a tax on the middle class.. now tell me. if obama said it was a tax years ago before it was put to a vote do you really believe it would have passed?? hell no.. so yes, obama is also a liar.. but his lie will actually effect millions..
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Do any of you idiots realize that the government is controlled by big corporations and your vote means jack shit ???
LOL @ arguing about something you have no control over. :D
X650,000
another lying scumbag fuck politician got busted....This is news ?
People that "talk politics", and think they are "informed".. make me fucking laugh....you will never make a difference,and they don't give a fuck what you think.
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It was debunked already. Move on. This is why I asked if Benny was into self mutilation.
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Mitt Romney has worked his whole life in trying to be super rich. And in the end(now) he's made about the same amount as Ken Block(200 million) the DC shoe guy who drives cars and makes really cool video's. I don't know about you people, but to me, Mitt Romney isn't really a success story. 200 million is like 1/20 of the negro Oprah is worth. If were going to vote for a guy because he's super smart about business, can the guy/chick at least be worth more than the Kardashian/Bruce Jenner clan?
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Do any of you idiots realize that the government is controlled by big corporations and your vote means jack shit ???
LOL @ arguing about something you have no control over. :D
good point
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Mitt Romney has worked his whole life in trying to be super rich. And in the end(now) he's made about the same amount as Ken Block(200 million) the DC shoe guy who drives cars and makes really cool video's. I don't know about you people, but to me, Mitt Romney isn't really a success story. 200 million is like 1/20 of the negro Oprah is worth. If were going to vote for a guy because he's super smart about business, can the guy/chick at least be worth more than the Kardashian/Bruce Jenner clan?
Mitt Romney was born into a super rich family, much like George W. Bush.
President Obama has worked his entire life to become successful, much like Bill Clinton
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Since no one .....again, can't answer the question
ANSWER
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Do any of you idiots realize that the government is controlled by big corporations and your vote means jack shit ???
LOL @ arguing about something you have no control over. :D
exactly! democrats or republicans, its all the same shit. they promise you the world, then screw you over once their in office. Instead of being divided, the people should come together against corrupted politicians. instead, idiots care about being separate (dems or repubs) and supporting their party, like that matter.
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Mitt Romney was born into a super rich family, much like George W. Bush.
President Obama has worked his entire life to become successful, much like Bill Clinton
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WORKED?!?!?!? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Fuck that. His grades were complete shit, he got into harvard law because of his skin color. He became a professor, which many people at the school highly disagreed with the idiot being there(wow such a hard lifechanging job teaching 6 hours a week). He then became a career politician. WTF does this guy know about work???!!? Romney made his millions on his own through smart investing. Who gives a shit if he was born rich?? He was a boss on his own and turned around a lot of companies and banked because of his due diligence, risk taking, and smart investing.
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Mitt Romney was born into a super rich family, much like George W. Bush.
President Obama has worked his entire life to become successful, much like Bill Clinton
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That mother fucker has no clue what its like to work. Of course I'm talking about Obama.
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WORKED?!?!?!? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Fuck that. His grades were complete shit, he got into harvard law because of his skin color. He became a professor, which many people at the school highly disagreed with the idiot being there(wow such a hard job lifechanging job teaching 6 hours a week). He then became a career politician. WTF does this guy know about work???!!? Romney made his millions on his own through smart investing. Who gives a shit if he was born rich?? He was a boss on his own and turned around a lot of companies and banked because of his due diligence, risk taking, and smart investing.
But did Romney make a lot of investing out of the United States?
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matty is right.. there have been some of his old professors that have stated that he was "lazy" and not very "energetic".. and yes old bill clinton has been quoted as saying that "obama is in over his head".. look at all the things he said in his bid to be president and look at how he has switched since being there.. even when the cbo has released new numbers on obamacare and how it will effect growth and biz in a bad way he still does not nothing to alter it.. all ego..
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as for investing in the usa.. obama has sent numerous jobs overseas.. at least romney did that as a businessman.. obama has done it as our prez..
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WORKED?!?!?!? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Fuck that. His grades were complete shit, he got into harvard law because of his skin color.
He was elected President of the Harvard Law Review.
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He was elected President of the Harvard Law Review.
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Are you mentally retarded? I was talking about actually getting into Harvard. He had to transfer into Columbia because he grades were bad.
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as for investing in the usa.. obama has sent numerous jobs overseas.. at least romney did that as a businessman.. obama has done it as our prez..
Outsourcing Vs. Insourcing
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Are you mentally retarded? I was talking about actually getting into Harvard. He had to transfer into Columbia because he grades were bad.
So Columbia is an easy school to get into? What are we talking about here.?
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So Columbia is an easy school to get into? What are we talking about here.?
No, his grades weren't good enough to get into at first. It wasn't a super elite school to get in, but he was unable to at first and later had to transfer in. This is an interesting read.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/22/Exclusive-The-Vetting-Obama-Wrong-on-Columbia-Admission-Transfer-Class-Had-Low-SAT-Scores-Grades
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Outsourcing Vs. Insourcing
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/07/10/andrea_mitchell_struggles_to_defend_claim_obama_outsourced_jobs_via_stimulus.html
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Interesting website...
http://www.breitbart.com/ (http://www.breitbart.com/)
This is an interesting read.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/22/Exclusive-The-Vetting-Obama-Wrong-on-Columbia-Admission-Transfer-Class-Had-Low-SAT-Scores-Grades
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DISASTER!
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When is Willard going to release all of his tax returns? ::)
George Romney "released 12 years of tax returns -- because, he said, and I quote -- 'one year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show,'" Biden said.
"His son has released one year of his tax returns," Biden added, "making a lie of the old adage: Like father, like son."
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You're an idiot....this has been debunked.... thoroughly. The fact that it was brought up at all is a sign of how truly desperate the Obama campaign has become. I've seen a number of Presidential elections in my 50 years...Obama is running the dirtiest, sleaziest campaign I have ever seen. The lies, constant race baiting and personal attacks are beyond disgusting....
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You're an idiot....this has been debunked.... thoroughly. The fact that it was brought up at all is a sign of how truly desperate the Obama campaign has become. I've seen a number of Presidential elections in my 50 years...Obama is running the dirtiest, sleaziest campaign I have ever seen. The lies, constant race baiting and personal attacks are beyond disgusting....
Absolutely. This has all been a smear from Obama's admin and their media lap dogs. It's already been debunked several times.
Give it up already.
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DISASTER!
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When is Willard going to release all of his tax returns? ::)
George Romney "released 12 years of tax returns -- because, he said, and I quote -- 'one year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show,'" Biden said.
"His son has released one year of his tax returns," Biden added, "making a lie of the old adage: Like father, like son."
"When you can't run on your record, you paint the opponent as someone the voters should run away from." - Barack H. Obama 2008
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You're a liar, Willard!
The web of Romney lies continues to unravel – he was at Bain Capital long after he said he left
By Eclectablog on July 12, 2012
Did you think we wouldn’t find out or what, Mitt???
There is more evidence out today showing that Mitt Romney has been lying for years about his position at Bain Capital. As I wrote about earlier this week (“Mitt Romney is lying repeatedly to hide his past as a job-killing tax cheat”), Romney’s claims that he left Bain Capital in 1999, before much of the outsourcing and company bankrupting took place, have proven to be false.
Today, the Boston Globe has a devastating new piece out titled “Mitt Romney stayed at Bain 3 years longer than he stated”. In it, they reveal an additional NINE SEC filings showing that Romney was at the helm through 2002.
Government documents filed by Mitt Romney and Bain Capital say Romney remained chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time.
Romney has said he left Bain in 1999 to lead the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, ending his role in the company. But public Securities and Exchange Commission documents filed later by Bain Capital state he remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”
Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.
The timing of Romney’s departure from Bain is a key point of contention because he has said his resignation in February 1999 meant he was not responsible for Bain Capital companies that went bankrupt or laid off workers after that date. {…}
The Globe found nine SEC filings submitted by four different business entities after February 1999 that describe Romney as Bain Capital’s boss; some show him with managerial control over five Bain Capital entities that were formed in January 2002, according to records in Delaware, where they were incorporated.
This is not trivial stuff. If he did, indeed, lie about this, it’s a BFD.
“You can’t say statements filed with the SEC are meaningless. This is a fact in an SEC filing,” said Roberta S. Karmel, now a professor at Brooklyn Law School.
“It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to say he was technically in charge on paper but he had nothing to do with Bain’s operations,” Karmel continued. “Was he getting paid? He’s the sole stockholder. Are you telling me he owned the company but had no say in its investments?” {…}
“If someone invested with Bain Capital because they believed Mitt Romney was a great fund manager, and it turns out he wasn’t really doing anything, that could be considered a misrepresentation to the investor,’’ she said. “It’s a theory that could be used in a lawsuit against him.”
Indeed, some are beginning to ask whether or not he violated federal law. From Politico:
Earlier this month, FactCheck.org stated that if Mitt Romney had not left Bain Capital in 1999, he “would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999.”
FactCheck.org made that argument to dismiss complaints by President Barack Obama’s campaign, but a new Boston Globe report on Romney’s true tenure at Bain Capital — which reportedly lasted until 2002, three years longer than Romney has stated — brings FactCheck.org’s statement into sharp relief. {…}
[FactCheck.org said at the time ]“In fact, if the Obama campaign were correct, Romney would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999.”
On a conference call today with reporters, Obama for America General Counsel Bob Bauer told us, “Romney IS the controlling person [according to the SEC filings]. The consequences of this misrepresentation are very, very serious.”
Also on the call was Deputy Campaign Director Steffanie Cutter. She described Mitt Romney as “playing by a different set of rules” than previous candidates for president, referring to the precedent set by Romney’s own father of releasing several years of tax returns. She described Romney as “the most secretive candidate to run for president since Richard Nixon”, referring to his hiding of tax returns, taking hard drives from state computers when he left as governor of Massachusetts, not disclosing potential conflicts of interest during his time running the Olympics and not disclosing who is his campaign fundraising bundlers are.
At every turn, at every piece of Mitt Romney’s record or credential, whether it’s Bain, whether it’s his own personal finances, whether it’s who is raising money for him or his time in the Statehouse in Massachusetts, there is an enormous cloud over Mitt Romney’s record because of his penchant for secrecy and not wanting to be transparent and open with the American people.
David Corn at Mother Jones has even more to add to the conversation. In a blockbuster piece yesterday, he revealed that Bain Capital, under the guidance of Mitt Romney, invested millions of dollars in a Chinese firm that profited heavily from American companies outsourcing their work.
On April 17, 1998, Brookside Capital Partners Fund, a Bain Capital affiliate, filed a report with the Securities and Exchange Commission noting that it had acquired 6.13 percent of Hong Kong-based Global-Tech Appliances, which manufactured household appliances in a production facility in the industrial city of Dongguan, China. That August, according to another SEC filing, Brookside upped its interest in Global-Tech to 10.3 percent. Both SEC filings identified Romney as the person in control of this investment: “Mr. W. Mitt Romney is the sole shareholder, sole director, President and Chief Executive Officer of Brookside Inc. and thus is the controlling person of Brookside Inc.” Each of these documents was signed by Domenic Ferrante, a managing director of Brookside and Bain. {…}
At the time Romney was acquiring shares in Global-Tech, the firm publicly acknowledged that its strategy was to profit from prominent US companies outsourcing production abroad.
Note that the timing on this is even before Romney’s stated departure date from Bain in 1999.
This makes Romney’s claims that President Obama is the “Outsourcer-in-Chief” a bit laughable. As Steffanie Cutter explained during the conference call today, Mitt Romney is telling us that he is more prepared to run the country because of his business experience. Since Bain Capital’s success was largely wrapped up in downsizing American companies and sending the jobs overseas, it’s very much relevant to ask what he was involved with at Bain, when he was involved with it, and what that experience tells us about how he would run our country.
When Mitt Romney tells us that his understanding of the American economy is different than that of President Obama’s, I tend to agree. The business experience that led to his understanding of our economy would make him a dangerous president.
Just like Russell "Rush" Simmons! ;D
FAIL: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/politics/john-king-bain/index.html
By John King, CNN Chief National Correspondent
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Aside from making a complete ass yourself on a daily basis are you also into self mutilation as well?
This is worth repeating. Is it even possible for a lib to remotely tell the truth?
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The more everyone finds out about Mitt Romney's finances, the more questions they have. Perhaps that's why he's hiding as much as he thinks he can get away with.
Yesterday, The Boston Globe reported that Romney was still running Bain Capital two years after he claims he left the firm, directly contradicting his campaign's denial that he was involved in deals that led to layoffs, bankruptcies, and American jobs getting shipped overseas.
Either Romney filed false SEC statements or he's making false statements to the American people now.
Mitt Romney's Bain Secret Exposed
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The more everyone finds out about Mitt Romney's finances, the more questions they have. Perhaps that's why he's hiding as much as he thinks he can get away with.
Yesterday, The Boston Globe reported that Romney was still running Bain Capital two years after he claims he left the firm, directly contradicting his campaign's denial that he was involved in deals that led to layoffs, bankruptcies, and American jobs getting shipped overseas.
Either Romney filed false SEC statements or he's making false statements to the American people now.
Mitt Romney's Bain Secret Exposed
WRONG: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/12/john-king-why-is-1999-so-important-to-2012/
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The elusive tax returns remain hidden
By Steve Benen
- Fri Jul 13, 2012
Former President Bill Clinton appeared on NBC's "Today" show, and acknowledged how "perplexed" he is that Mitt Romney has only disclosed his tax returns for one year. "That struck me as a little odd," Clinton said.
What's especially interesting now, however, is that Republicans don't even agree amongst themselves on this issue. Virginia Gov. Bob "Ultrasound" McDonnell (R), for example, insisted this morning that Romney has already "released everything he needs to and more." Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said largely the same thing a few days ago -- asked when Romney might release the documents, Chaffetz argued, "I think he has released them."
Other Republicans, meanwhile, see this differently. Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, former RNC Chairman Michael Steele, and Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) have all encouraged Romney to release more returns, as his father did, and some conservatives in the media have joined the chorus.
As for why Romney refuses to release the materials -- remember, he turned over 23 years' worth of returns to the McCain campaign, so the documents shouldn't be hard to find -- we can only speculate, but theories abound. There has been no official explanation from the candidate or his campaign team.
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But did Romney make a lot of investing out of the United States?
He made a ton of money both in and outside the US.. so what? Is there a law you are only allowed to invest in US companies when he was a private citizen???
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The elusive tax returns remain hidden
By Steve Benen
- Fri Jul 13, 2012
Former President Bill Clinton appeared on NBC's "Today" show, and acknowledged how "perplexed" he is that Mitt Romney has only disclosed his tax returns for one year. "That struck me as a little odd," Clinton said.
What's especially interesting now, however, is that Republicans don't even agree amongst themselves on this issue. Virginia Gov. Bob "Ultrasound" McDonnell (R), for example, insisted this morning that Romney has already "released everything he needs to and more." Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said largely the same thing a few days ago -- asked when Romney might release the documents, Chaffetz argued, "I think he has released them."
Other Republicans, meanwhile, see this differently. Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, former RNC Chairman Michael Steele, and Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) have all encouraged Romney to release more returns, as his father did, and some conservatives in the media have joined the chorus.
As for why Romney refuses to release the materials -- remember, he turned over 23 years' worth of returns to the McCain campaign, so the documents shouldn't be hard to find -- we can only speculate, but theories abound. There has been no official explanation from the candidate or his campaign team.
You are nothing but a spammer. I truly think you and Hammer are two mentally challenged political robots, who can add nothing to the discussion, rather than regurgitating liberal media. You make me sick. You have failed in life and want others to pay for it. Fuck off and go get a real job.
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LaBolt: We're 'absolutely' after Romney's tax returns
By BYRON TAU |
7/13/12
President Obama's campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said Friday that the campaign "absolutely" was pushing the Bain issue to see Mitt Romney's tax returns.
In an interview with Fox News, LaBolt was pressed on whether the campaign's attacks on Mitt Romney's business record at Bain Capital were just a ploy.
"Is that what the Obama team is after? Is it more tax records?" host Bill Hemmer asked.
"Mitt Romney is the most secretive candidate we've seen since Richard Nixon. Mitt Romney provided John McCain 23 years worth of returns when he was being vetted for vice president but he's only shared with the American people one year worth of returns," LaBolt said, saying they "absolutely" were pushing the issue to see the tax returns.
"Either Mitt Romney misrepresented his tenure at Bain to the SEC or he misrepresented it to the voters of Massachusetts," LaBolt said. "If he released more documents, like further tax returns, we would know the extend of his involvement at Bain during this period, if he released board minutes, we'd know the extent of his involvement at Bain."
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Democrats are going to have to make an interesting choice...do you completely abandon your principles and sacrifice your party's ability to ever claim the moral high ground by following this sleazy thug into the gutter or do you man up, recognize that Obama is a morally bankrupt incompetent who's willing to sacrifice your party for his gain and disown him. It's your choice....
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Why Romney's Quit Date at Bain Matters
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Jul 12, 2012
In every campaign he's run in the last 10 years, Mitt Romney has claimed he made a clean break from Bain Capital in February 1999 as a way to defend himself from charges that he laid off workers and outsourced jobs overseas. But more and more evidence is mounting that the break wasn't so clean. Romney was listed as Bain's "sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president" on Securities and Exchange Commission filings until 2002, the Boston Globe's Callum Borchers and Christopher Rowland report Thursday. Further, Massachusetts state documents show that Romney owned 100 percent of Bain in 2002, and that he earned at least $100,000 as an executive of Bain in 2001 and 2002. That follows a Vanity Fair report earlier this month showing that Romney still gets income from Bain -- $2 million in June alone, and investments in the firm's Cayman Island funds could be worth as much as $30 million. And Mother Jones found that November 1999 SEC filings concerning Bain's deal with Stericycle state that Romney "may be deemed to share voting and dispositive power with respect to" more than 2 million shares of Stericycle stock "in his capacity as sole shareholder" of the Bain entities involved.
Romney's campaign says Romney's name was still on the paperwork for legal technicalities, and that it doesn't really mean he was there. But former SEC commissioner Roberta S. Karmel told the Globe that claim strains credulity:
"You can’t say statements filed with the SEC are meaningless. This is a fact in an SEC filing… It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to say he was technically in charge on paper but he had nothing to do with Bain’s operations. Was he getting paid? He’s the sole stockholder. Are you telling me he owned the company but had no say in its investments?"
This is how the paper describes the Romney campaign's response:
A Romney campaign official, who requested anonymity to discuss the SEC filings, acknowledged that they “do not square with common sense.”
So what? Three reasons why it matters:
Outsourcing. There are two Democratic attacks that Romney has defended himself from by citing the 1999 departure date from Bain: that he's an outsourcer and that he's a corporate raider. President Obama's ad calling Romney an "outsourcing pioneer" are based on a June 21 Washington Post story looking at how Bain, led by Romney, was an early outsourcer. FactCheck.org rates the Obama commercial false, because much of the outsourcing happened after 1999. For example, Bain didn't become a majority shareholder in Stream International, which set up call centers overseas, until later in 1999. A subsidiary created by the deal, Modus Media, closed a California plant in 2000 and opened one up in Guadalajara, Mexico. Again, FactCheck.org rated the Obama ad based on the Modus outsourcing false, because Romney said he'd left Bain in 1999. The same goes for SMTC, which closed plants in Denver and opened them up in Mexico in 2001.
Corporate raiding. As for the corporate raider charge, Obama's campaign says Bain took over companies, extracted huge fees, and then let them fail. One example is Ampad, which NPR's Planet Money has cited as an example of private equity gone wrong. Bain bought the paper company in 1992, took on a ton of debt, and the promised turnaround never happened. Instead, Planet Money explains, workers lost their jobs, stockholders were "wiped out," and lenders "got back a fraction of what they were owed." But so what? Ampad declared bankruptcy in January 2000, almost a year after Romney's official quit date. But the Globe's report makes that more complicated. Likewise, GS Industries, which Bain formed in the early 1990s by merging multiple steel plants, went bankrupt in 2001, "two years after Romney left Bain," as the Los Angeles Times reported. Or one year before he left?
Legal issues. There are legal implications no matter which date is correct. Romney's most recent federal financial disclosure form says that "Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way." Earlier this month, in evaluating the truth of an ad by President Obama's campaign calling Romney an outsourcer, FactCheck.org said that if Romney hadn't really left Bain when he said he did, "then Romney is guilty of lying on official federal disclosure forms, committing a felony."
But the Boston Globe says that if he did leave in 1999, and kept being listed as controlling the firm, that could be problematic too. Former SEC commissioner Roberta S. Karmel told the Globe:
"If someone invested with Bain Capital because they believed Mitt Romney was a great fund manager, and it turns out he wasn’t really doing anything, that could be considered a misrepresentation to the investor... It’s a theory that could be used in a lawsuit against him."
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With all of.the blatant lies that Obama has told in the past 31/2 years (proven lies ) shows the lack of integrity of the people who vote for him.
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Promised we'd be out of Iraq......Bad judgement and a lie.
Admitted he was a socialist piece of shit to a plumber while on camera....Bad judgement.
Promised that unemployment wouldn't rise above 8%......Bad Judgement and a lie.
Promised to close Gitmo within a year.....Bad Judgement and a lie.
Chose Biden to be his VP.....Bad Judgement.
Sat on his hands and did nothing while the guilf of mexico filled with oil....Bad judgement.
Accused an innocent WHITE cop without all the facts.....Bad judgement.
Promised shovel ready jobs and projects....Outright lie.
The stimulus.....Bad judgement filled with lies.
Claims to be a constitutiional lawyer, when it's obvious he doesn't understand the constitution....Bad judgement.
Appointed a racist communist to be his "green czar", and thought he could actually get away with it......Bad judgement.
Pledged his allegiance to ACORN.....Bad judgement.
Pledged his allegiance to SEIU....Bad Judgement.
Sat on his hands regarding the afghanistan troop surge, while our troops died in record numbers.....Bad Judgement to the core.
Ordered the firing of a USDA employee, again, without all the facts......Bad judgement.
Forced a fiasco of a healthcare bill down the throats of americans. The MAJORITY of whom opposed the fiasco......Seriously bad judgement.
Seriously thinks the next repub president won't shitcan said fiasco of a healthcare care bill come january of '13......Bad judgement.
Tried to deny he sat and listened to a racist preacher for twenty years. Tried to convince us that he and Wright aren't racist's......Outright lie and bad judgement.
Outright, documented, proven lies:
- Obama claims he was unaware of Pastor Wrights 911 comments: NYT proves he lied
- Obama claims his father was a goat-herd; actually he was a man of privilege
- Obama claims not an active muslim as child; Indonesian paper proves he lied
- Obama claims father linked to Kennedy’s; Washington Post proves he lied
- Obama claims he wrote the US Treasurer to try to prevent the housing crisis, he did but long after he voted to block McCain’s Bill which would have helped stop the problem
- Obama claims he has Foreign Experience because he lived in Indonesia, he was 6 YO
- Obama claimed his Indonesian School was Christian, it was not it was Muslim and records prove that, he studied the Koran
- Obama claims the way to keep Amrica energy independent is to inflate your tires
- Obama claims to have passed 26 Bill of his own making while in the Senate, he never did such a thing.
- Obama claims he is bipartisan; Congressional Quarterly shows he voted with his party 97% of the time
- Obama's dirty lie scares seniors: falsely claims McCain plans to cut $880 billion from Medicare: liar liar liar says Annenberg Factcheck
- Obama lies about his mother turning to food stamps AND still sending him to top schools; his grandmother paid for education
- Obama said his grandmother was a Christian, is that why she said Salat prayers? And told the NYT she was a strong Muslim
- Obama said he never practiced the Muslim faith, is that why hes was a registered Muslim till 31 YO and practiced the Muslim religion at a Muslim school and in hi you adulthood?
- Obama lied about being asked to wear dead soldier's bracelet: family had asked Obama to stop wearing it
- Obama claimed all new spending is economic plan was self-funding; short by $3.5 Trillion says nonpartisan Tax Policy Center
- Obama denied Admiral Mike Mullen had called Obama's Iraqi troop plan "dangerous"; Mullen made comment on Fox in July 2008 according to WaPo
- Obama lied about Kissinger's views of diplomacy during first debate; Kissinger confirms the lie
- Obama denied voting to tax some people making $42,000 a year: Annenburg Factcheck,org confirms Obama is lying
- After Debate 1, Team Obama denied Obama ever said, "Iran's not a threat": Video proves Obama DID say "Iran is NOT a threat."
- Obama claims under McCain employers would be taxed on the health care benefits it grants to workers; he's lying
- Obama refers to an Iraqi surplus of $79 billion and says US should have it; its $60 billion and dwindling
- Obama claims only 5% of Americans would see tax increase; he's grossly understating the number of people effected
- Obama accuses McCain of lying about Biden being against clean coal; video proves Obama is lying
- Obama claims McCain is opposed to abortion in cases of rape or incest; McCain has never held that position.
- Obama accuses McCain of making an ad about Obama's vote to approve leaving babies who survive abortion procedures to die; McCain did not make the ad
- Obama said he always supported medical care to protect infants; text of the Bill he supported shows he wanted babies born alive after abortions to be left to die
- Obama's ad on abortion uses quotes by journalists who made negative comments about a McCain ad; but Obama is misleading because both journalists have been proven to be incorrect
- Obama's lying when he says McCain's ad misstated BHO's Sex Ed for Kindergartners Bill: McCain's ad was accurate; here's the Sex Ed Bill text
- Obama and Biden both truncate McCain's comments on the strength of the economy's fundamentals: deliberate distortion
- Biden claims McCain tried to hurt our veterans by denying them educational benefits; NewsWeek confirms Biden is lying
- Obama claims under McCain, Elderly would have had Social Security tied up in the Stock market; Newsweek cries BS
- Obama claims his opponent will cut social security in half: NOT true; Obama guilty of scare-mongering aimed at Seniors
- Obama claimed during the primary he had more Ex President Clinton Foreign Policy advisers than Sen. Clinton; she had 70% more
- Obama claimed his father served in World War 2: his Kenyan-born father never served
- Obama grossly misquoted Sen.Clinton about her vote on a banking bill; BHO used the false quote to show why voters don't trust Government
- Obama claimed employers are more likely to be struck by lightning than be prosecuted for employing illegals; Gov stats prove he's lying
- Pushing his Green agenda Obama claimed Japanese Car average 45 mpg fuel efficiency; its actually around 29 mph
- Obama disparaged the President saying he hadn't met with auto makers until the sixth year of his presidency; GWB met automakers in April 2003
- Obama disparaged the efficiency of our healthcare system saying the U.S. spends twice per capita than other countries: WaPo proves he's lying
- Obama claims President Clinton's Labor Secretary said BHO's healthcare plan, "Does more than anybody to reduce costs"; Robert Reich did NOT say it
- Obama falsely claimed he won the Michigan Democrat primary: he was not on the ballot
- Obama's Spanish language ad lies about McCain's position on immigration; tries to stir race-war: lies debunked by ABC
- Obama lies about his interference in Iraqi negotiations; but his campaign admits his treachery
- Obama took credit for the economic stimulus package passed in Feb 08; BHO's colleagues on Capitol Hill cry BS
- Obama claims Big Oil is ignoring 68 million acres of oil fields they could be drilling; most fields are being worked
- Obama claims never questions his opponent's patriotism; asks of McCain "WHICH country first?": ABC says he's questioning McCain's patriotism
- Obama claims personal savings rates are lowest since the Great Depression; currently higher than under President Clinton
- Obama claims on this video that he doesn't switch positions; list of 31 flip flops show he's lying
- Obama puffed his resume claiming he was a "Professor"; State Senate bio shows he was not ; he now agrees
- Obam said an Ebony Magazine article inspired him to run for office, funny Ebony has yet to find the Article.
- When Obama ran for US Senate his web site claimed "5 years as a community organizer"; he admits it was only 3 years
- Obama's attack ad in Michigan claims McCain doesn't support loan guarantees for auto-industry. McCain DOES support them
- Obama says "if we're STILL in recession when he takes office...etc"; the economy is NOT in recession
- Obama claims he signed up for Selective Service when he graduated from High School; records show he did NOT until he'd been at college 1 year
- Attacking Palin, Obama has the audacity to claim,"Words mean something; you can't just make things up "; BHO makes stuff up
- Obama drew the Nation's attention to problems at Walter Reed Army Hospital; it was two WaPo reporters that reported the issues to the Nation
- Obama lies yet again to disparage Gov. Palin; ignores her executive experience as Governor of Alaska
- Obama says the US economy has failed under Bush; World Bank stats proves Obama's been lying; US a world leader in growth, employment, incomes
- Obama claims if you are born into poverty in America you are on your own: there are many government programs
- Obama claims he's bi-partisan: voting records prove Obama is #11 most partisan
- Claimed Hillary would be on anyone's short-list; Hillary wasn't on Obama's short-list
- Obama claims abortion rates have not gone down under the Bush Administration; stats show they have gone down
- Obama dismissed Bomber Bill Ayers as "some guy who lives in the neighborhood";they had a close working relationship
- Obama claims there's no charge to attend his acceptance speech: CBS 4 in Denver proves he's lying; some tickets cost $1000
- Obama used being a first-time-buyer to justify consulting with Rezko before he bought his house; BHO had already purchased a residence
- Obama lies about his support for infanticide; campaign concedes in 03 he opposed a bill stopping the killing of kids born alive after abortions
- Obama overstates Oil Industry's contributions to McCain; ignores cash the Oil industry gave BHO; Newsweek debunks
- Obama exaggerated the growth in Debt under the current Administration; debunked by WaPo
- Obama claims President George W Bush had not left the country before he became President; WaPo confirms he's lying
- To promote "green", Obama claimed he drove a vehicle that uses ethanol; GM confirmed the model was NOT ethanol-ready
- Obama claims he's taking his family for a week's rest in Hawaii with no campaigning; schedules a rally for first day
- : Obama claims "properly inflating tires" will save as much energy as we could drill offshore; analysis shows not even close
- Obama denies accusing McCain of using race against him; ABC, NYT confirm Obama did accuse McCain of making racial attacks
- Obama claims he's not being political when he's flip-flopping; timing & direction of major flip-flops show he's lying
- Obama INVENTS a wall between Christians and Jews; deceptively omits the major religious wall is caused by a "fatwah" to kill American Christians and Jews
- Obama claims he made a substantive call for Germany to help in Iraq; Berlin speech transcript proves he's lying
- Obama lied about his father's religious upbringing! half-brother confirms Obama's father was "RAISED Muslim"
- Obama claimed we only made one fundraising trip to Florida during the Primary; Florida papers proved he lied
- Obama claims reducing obesity to 80's levels would save Medicaid ONE TRILLION DOLLARS; not even close
- Obama claimed demands on Nat Guard personnel hurt flood relief; Guards prove lying
- Claimed due to overseas commitments, too few helecopters were available to help with Midwest flood relief; now concedes not true
- Obama claimed Clinton's healthcare plan would "punish families that couldn't afford healthcare"; NYT calls BS
- Obama claims McCain's tax plan will do nothing to help the middle-class: The Tax Policy Center proves he's lying
- Obama claims the use of an Email with a big red DONATE button is NOT a fundraising solicitation
- Obama claims his trip to Europe was non-political: uses video of Berlin speech to raise money within hours
- Obama tells NBC that during the debate on the Surge he said the Surge would work in Baghdad; video proves during the debate he said the opposite
- Obama's "Changing World" ad claims he'll fast-track alternatives to oil to stop us buying from hostile nations; "fast track" is totally misleading
- Obama tells Israeli media that he's a member of the Senate Banking Committee; CNN confirms he's delusional
- Obama claims Lou Dobbs caused hate crimes against Latinos to double; the FBI and CNN confirm Obama is lying
- Obama claims the military brass think like he does; top US commanders say his plan for Iraq is unworkable
- Obama promised to filibust FISA; later Obama voted for FISA and now denies changing his position
- Obama belittles Americans claiming we can't speak European languages; he's talking merde; mierda; Scheiße
- Obama denied he accused President Bush of starting the War for political reasons; Russert transcript proves Obama made that false claim
- Obama claims there has been substantial job losses from NAFTA; Independent studies show its at least" job neutral"
- Obama Claimed in Feb 08 he got 90% of funds from donors giving $25, $50; fed filings show he got only about a third from donors below $200
- Obama rewrites history about what specifically he had said during his October 2002 anti-war speech
- Obama claimed in 04 that he had never supported bringing troops out of Iraq; rare video of 03 Teamsters rally shows he's lying
- To justify move to private funds, Obama claims McCain's campaign is" fuelled" by PACs and Lobbyists; its less than 2% of McCain's money
- Obama's "Dignity" ad claims he "worked his way" thru college and law school; campaign admits only two summer jobs
- Obama's "Dignity" ad gives him credit for reducing Welfare rolls by 80%: he's deceptive as he was opposed to Fed Welfare Reform in '96
- In Obama's The Country I love ad, he takes credit for passing a healthcare bill he did NOT vote for
- Obama Claims he first ran in Chicago as an unendorsed candidate; his '96 election questionnaire proves he had several
- Obama claims he wants a vigorous and open debate on the issues: then goes out of his way to avoid it
- Obama omits key details about a false rumor re video of Michelle's "whitey" rant to justify breaking his public funding promise
- Obama tries to deceive about why he voted "present" more than 100 times in the Illinois Senate; Chicago paper reveals the truth
- Trying to claim patriotism Obama says his grandad signed up the day after Pearl Harbor; army records disagree
- Obama Claims race and party not important to how people vote as they put America first; 93% block vote disproves
- On June 5, Obama stated that Israel must remain undivided; June 6 on CNN he reversed his position, but denied he had done so
- To further his own agenda, Obama grossly overstates the number of potential African-American votes in MS, GA, SC
- Obama Promised of $2500 reduction in Healthcare premiums needs billions in Admin cost savings by 2012: not possible
- Obama omits to mention his 3 week trip to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan until it slips out trying to out-do Clinton
- Obama claims McCain wants to wage a lengthy war in Iraq: Video proves Obama's lying
- Obama claimed he never prayed in a mosque; his campaign had to retract that statement
- Obama dishonestly used endorsements in ads to pump up his healthcare plan
- Claims he never discussed politics with Pastor; rebutted by photo of Obama with team of lobbyists led by Wright
- Obama, an expert at parsing words, claimed he wasn't familiar with the word "Clintonian"; then changed his story
- Despite reeking of cigarettes, Obama denied smoking to ABC; now admits smoking on MSNBC
- Obama said he'd meet unconditionally with Leader of Iran: now claims he "didn't have Ahmadinejad in mind"
- Obama claims he is using public financing to avoid special interests: WSJ nails his switcheroo
- Obama's rhetoric claims more young black men in jail than college: BoJ Stats disprove
- Obama claims he never said he was a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare; Video proves he did
- Obama claims remarks to industrialists were greeted with silence, shows he can deliver tough message: video of ovation
- Obamas claim you dont rip opponents & leave on roadside:he did to Alice Palmer
- Obama denies saying Indiana could be tie-breaker: he did
- Obama omits that Pastor Wright led divestiture campaign from Israel
- Obama claims Church not controversial; he knew it was controversial since 86
- Lied about intention of taking US out of NAFTA
- Obamas claim poverty growing up: both distort reality
- Obama denies meeting Saddam's Auchi; sworn Fed. witness places Obama at undisclosed party for Auchi at Rezkos
- Obama lies about not attacking Clinton over her Bosnia lies
- Obama claims he passed ethics reform; ABC News shows he lied
- Obama says he's consistently opposed NAFTA; in October 2007 he supported expansion to Peru
- Obama claims he's above dirty political tricks; Clinton proves he lies
- Obama claims his "bitter" remarks were mangled; then repeats attacks on guns religion and angry people
- Obama claims never said he wouldn't wear US flag-pin; video shows he did
- Obama says he did no favors for Rezko;untrue; he lobbied for him
- Obama changes story repeatedly re Rezko's help in buying mansion
- Obama claims he never supported a ban on handguns; he has twice
- Obama claims stays at UCC as Pastor acknowledged comments were inappropriate; Wright never made this statement
- Obama campaign is beholden to "only the people" as unlike McCain/Clinton he does not take lobbyist /PAC money; LIES!
- Obama claims campaign never called Canada to say Obama not truthful re wanting leave NAFTA; smoking gun memo proves lied
- Obama claimed would not run for President, as he would not be qualified by 2008: confirmed 3 times to Tim Russert in one 2006 interview
- Obama claims famous in IL. for not letting lobbyists even buy him lunch; took from teachers, trial lawyers, hospital admins
- Obama claims he has no Lobbyists, he has more than 45
- Obama claims his parents met at 1965 Selma civil rights march; Washington Post noted it occurred 4 yrs after Obama's birth
- Obam claims courageously opposed war in 2002 during US Senate campaign; He did not announce his senate bid until 2003
- Obama claims he passes tough Nuclear Law; NYT uncovers he took Nuclear Industry pay-off and watered down the bill
- Obama claimed he didn't know Rezko was corrupt when did a real estate deal with him; Chicago papers prove he lied
- Obama laims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied
- Obana denies using his Hopefund PAC to influence endorsers; but the Washington Post reviewed the record and disagreed
- Obama claims his State Chair is not a drug company lobbyist; Time magazine cries Bull
- Obama lies about how much he received in campaign funds from Rezko; forced to significantly increase the amount twice
- Obama claims he did not fill out the 1996 candidate questionaire; Politico proves he lied
- Obama took credit for achievement of others in Chicago; resume puffing exposed by LA Times
- Obama claims he kept no State Senate records; now he changes his story
- Omaba denies doubling wife's salary was due to becoming US Senator; omits within months he earmarked $1 million for hospital
- Obama denied meeting Saddam bagman Auchi; now admits he was at his dinner but does not remember talking to him
- Obama denies using his church for politics: IRS disagree
so suddenly it matters again? ::)
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Once the PHONY Mormon gets trounced in November, we won't have to deal with his lies, tax evasion, and secrecy any more. ;)
Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity:
(http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=steve-benen499B1E73-2319-5424-4BAB-94BEC48EB406.jpg&width=380)After more than six months of marveling at Mitt Romney's propensity for falsehoods, I have to admit it was unsettling to see his campaign's new attack ad, launched yesterday. The spot accuses President Obama of making "untrue" claims about Romney shipping jobs overseas -- Obama's claims are actually quite credible -- and concludes that the president is running a "dishonest campaign."
Think about that for a moment. The candidate whose entire campaign has been built on one falsehood after another, the candidate whose dishonesty is routinely characterized as "almost pathological," the candidate whose near-constant lying puts him in a league of his own among modern politicians, is complaining that his rival is taking liberties with the facts.
There's dishonesty in politics, and then there's meta-dishonesty in politics.
Romney's spokesperson this week declared, "America deserves ... a president who's willing to tell the truth." That seems more than fair. Perhaps the Romney camp can reevaluate that demand after reading the 25th installment of my weekly series, chronicling Mitt's mendacity.
1. In an interview with Fox Business Network's Neil Cavuto, Romney insisted, "Obamacare is killing jobs."
There is literally no evidence to support this claim in any way.
2. In the same interview, Romney, asked about his tax returns, said, "We have of course released all of the financial statements that are required by law and then released two years of tax returns."
Actually, he's only released his tax returns for one full year. Two years wouldn't be enough, but it'd be an improvement.
3. Romney also told Cavuto, of the existing disclosure, "So tax information is there and other financial disclosure is there."
I wish that were true, but the whole point of the recent controversy is that "other financial disclosure" isn't there. We learned about his shell corporation in Bermuda based on one year's tax returns, but we don't know what other disclosures exist because Romney has kept previous returns hidden from the public.
4. Also on Fox Business, Romney said his tax disclosures include "the same information" John Kerry released during his 2004 campaign.
That's plainly false. During his presidential run eight years ago, Kerry released five years of tax returns, and during his Senate campaigns, made a habit of releasing several years' worth of tax documents as part of a commitment to disclosure.
5. Criticizing President Obama's tax-cut plan, Romney said the proposal constitutes "a massive tax increase."
Well, that's obviously a subjective matter, but in reality, 98% of Americans would get a tax cut under the plan.
6. Attacking the same plan, Romney said the White House plan "is the sort of thing only an extreme liberal could come up with."
"Extreme liberals" aren't the only people who can think of middle-class tax cut, and there's really nothing "extreme" at all about the president's proposal.
7. At a town-hall meeting in Grand Junction, Colorado, Romney claimed Obama is "putting money into energy companies, solar and wind energy companies that end up making their products outside the United States."
Every aspect to this claim is patently untrue.
8. At the same event, Romney claimed, "This president has increased the rate of new major regulations by about threefold over his predecessor."
That's false. Obama approved fewer regulations in his first three years in office than Bush did in his first three years.
9. Romney added, "I'm going to look at all the programs we have in government and ask this question: Is this program so critical to America that it's worth borrowing money from China to pay for it?"
At a minimum, that's misleading. The implication here is that U.S. debt is financed by the Chinese, but this isn't true -- China only holds about 8% of the nation's debt.
10. Romney went on to say he's "going to get rid of ObamaCare" so the government won't have to borrow more money.
According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the Affordable Care Act will save over $100 billion over the next decade, and over $1 trillion in the decade after that. Romney has it backwards -- we would need to borrow more money if he does "get rid of Obamacare."
11. He added that "dreams are being crushed when taxes go up and up and up on job creators."
Taxes haven't gone up; they've gone down. In fact, Americans' federal tax burden has down and down and down, reaching a 30-year low after Obama cut taxes in 2009.
12. At the same event, Romney said the Affordable Care Act "cuts Medicare by $500 billion."
Romney says this a lot. He's not telling the truth.
13. He also said "no, no, no" to the notion that he would "cut" Medicare.
Romney endorsed Paul Ryan's House Republican Budget plan, which ends the Medicare program and replaces it with a private voucher scheme.
14. In response to a question about the tax code, Romney argued, "For me ... this campaign is about the middle class, and about the poor. It's not about the rich. The rich are going to do fine, whosever elected."
First, Romney intends to give the wealthy a massive tax cut (while they keep their existing massive tax cut). Second, Romney said in February he's "not concerned about the very poor."
15. In his speech to the NAACP, Romney went off-script and said, "You know, there was a survey of the Chamber of Commerce. They carried out a survey of their members, about 1,500 surveyed. And they asked him what effect Obama care would have on their plans and three-quarters of them said it would make them less likely to hire people."
That's not what happened. The Chamber, a pro-Republican lobbying institution heavily invested in helping Romney, put up an unscientific online survey. Treating this as a legitimate poll of businesses is fundamentally dishonest.
16. Responding to an interview the president did with CBS, Romney argued, "President Obama believes that millions of Americans have lost their homes, their jobs and their livelihood because he failed to tell a good story."
Based on what Obama actually said, there is no universe in which that makes any sense at all.
17. Romney's campaign claimed that health care premiums "are $4,893 higher per family than President Obama promised" in 2008.
The claim is both deeply foolish and completely untrue.
18. In a speech in New Hampshire, responding to the new jobs report, Romney complained, "The highest corporate tax rates in the world do not create jobs."
American corporations do not pay the highest tax rates in the world.
19. Describing economic policies that would improve matters, Romney added, "Opening up new markets in Latin America. The president hasn't done that in three and a half years -- no new trade agreements."
I don't know why Romney keeps telling this lie, but he does.
20. In the same speech, Romney added, "Failing to effectively crack down on China for cheating and stealing American jobs -- that has not helped."
Obama has already cracked down on China in ways Romney doesn't seem to understand.
21. Romney went on to say, "The president's policies have not gotten America working again."
Of course they have.
22. Asked about his lack of specific ideas on the economy, Romney argued, "I don't think I've seen any from the president that -- that show what he's planning on doing."
Romney doesn't have to like the American Jobs Act, but he shouldn't get away with brazenly lying about its existence.
23. In response to a reporter's question about health care, Romney said, "You know, I've spoken about health care from the day we passed it in -- in Massachusetts and people said, is this something that you'd apply at the federal level? And I said no."
He's clearly not telling the truth.
24. Commenting on his plans to eliminate the deficit, Romney argued, "What I describe in my plan is a series of changes to programs and elimination of programs which save more and more money over time, so we're able to get America to a balanced budget in eight to 10 years -- not in the first year, but eight to 10 years."
There's overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Romney says his plan "can't be scored," but independent budget analysts have found his agenda would make the deficit bigger, not smaller, and add trillions to the national debt.
25. At a fundraiser in Montana, Romney told supporters, "The great majority of small business -- 54% of American workers work in businesses taxed as individuals. So when the president wants to raise taxes on individuals as he's proposed from 35% to 40%, he kills jobs. If your priority is crushing people, vote for him."
Only about 3% of American small businesses would be affected by the higher rate, and there is literally no evidence to suggest Clinton-era top rates on the wealthy "kills jobs."
In conclusion, Jay Rosen argued yesterday that Romney and his team appear to be running a "post-truth" campaign, working under the assumption that the media isn't equipped to report the lies. It's a story that's "too big to tell."
It's a fair point, and with just 115 days until the election, it's a dynamic well worth watching.
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Sadly for republicans, the lies and overall PHONINESS of Willard is leading to his demise. :'(
July 2012 electoral map projection:
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/34/01/3401e5ef9b6b2968ff1839dadade7791.jpeg)
Obama leads 333-205 in most recent Electoral College map projection with polls ;)
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Once the PHONY Mormon gets trounced in November, we won't have to deal with his lies, tax evasion, and secrecy any more. ;)
Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity:
U
(http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=steve-benen499B1E73-2319-5424-4BAB-94BEC48EB406.jpg&width=380)After more than six months of marveling at Mitt Romney's propensity for falsehoods, I have to admit it was unsettling to see his campaign's new attack ad, launched yesterday. The spot accuses President Obama of making "untrue" claims about Romney shipping jobs overseas -- Obama's claims are actually quite credible -- and concludes that the president is running a "dishonest campaign."
Think about that for a moment. The candidate whose entire campaign has been built on one falsehood after another, the candidate whose dishonesty is routinely characterized as "almost pathological," the candidate whose near-constant lying puts him in a league of his own among modern politicians, is complaining that his rival is taking liberties with the facts.
There's dishonesty in politics, and then there's meta-dishonesty in politics.
Romney's spokesperson this week declared, "America deserves ... a president who's willing to tell the truth." That seems more than fair. Perhaps the Romney camp can reevaluate that demand after reading the 25th installment of my weekly series, chronicling Mitt's mendacity.
1. In an interview with Fox Business Network's Neil Cavuto, Romney insisted, "Obamacare is killing jobs."
There is literally no evidence to support this claim in any way.
2. In the same interview, Romney, asked about his tax returns, said, "We have of course released all of the financial statements that are required by law and then released two years of tax returns."
Actually, he's only released his tax returns for one full year. Two years wouldn't be enough, but it'd be an improvement.
3. Romney also told Cavuto, of the existing disclosure, "So tax information is there and other financial disclosure is there."
I wish that were true, but the whole point of the recent controversy is that "other financial disclosure" isn't there. We learned about his shell corporation in Bermuda based on one year's tax returns, but we don't know what other disclosures exist because Romney has kept previous returns hidden from the public.
4. Also on Fox Business, Romney said his tax disclosures include "the same information" John Kerry released during his 2004 campaign.
That's plainly false. During his presidential run eight years ago, Kerry released five years of tax returns, and during his Senate campaigns, made a habit of releasing several years' worth of tax documents as part of a commitment to disclosure.
5. Criticizing President Obama's tax-cut plan, Romney said the proposal constitutes "a massive tax increase."
Well, that's obviously a subjective matter, but in reality, 98% of Americans would get a tax cut under the plan.
6. Attacking the same plan, Romney said the White House plan "is the sort of thing only an extreme liberal could come up with."
"Extreme liberals" aren't the only people who can think of middle-class tax cut, and there's really nothing "extreme" at all about the president's proposal.
7. At a town-hall meeting in Grand Junction, Colorado, Romney claimed Obama is "putting money into energy companies, solar and wind energy companies that end up making their products outside the United States."
Every aspect to this claim is patently untrue.
8. At the same event, Romney claimed, "This president has increased the rate of new major regulations by about threefold over his predecessor."
That's false. Obama approved fewer regulations in his first three years in office than Bush did in his first three years.
9. Romney added, "I'm going to look at all the programs we have in government and ask this question: Is this program so critical to America that it's worth borrowing money from China to pay for it?"
At a minimum, that's misleading. The implication here is that U.S. debt is financed by the Chinese, but this isn't true -- China only holds about 8% of the nation's debt.
10. Romney went on to say he's "going to get rid of ObamaCare" so the government won't have to borrow more money.
According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the Affordable Care Act will save over $100 billion over the next decade, and over $1 trillion in the decade after that. Romney has it backwards -- we would need to borrow more money if he does "get rid of Obamacare."
11. He added that "dreams are being crushed when taxes go up and up and up on job creators."
Taxes haven't gone up; they've gone down. In fact, Americans' federal tax burden has down and down and down, reaching a 30-year low after Obama cut taxes in 2009.
12. At the same event, Romney said the Affordable Care Act "cuts Medicare by $500 billion."
Romney says this a lot. He's not telling the truth.
13. He also said "no, no, no" to the notion that he would "cut" Medicare.
Romney endorsed Paul Ryan's House Republican Budget plan, which ends the Medicare program and replaces it with a private voucher scheme.
14. In response to a question about the tax code, Romney argued, "For me ... this campaign is about the middle class, and about the poor. It's not about the rich. The rich are going to do fine, whosever elected."
First, Romney intends to give the wealthy a massive tax cut (while they keep their existing massive tax cut). Second, Romney said in February he's "not concerned about the very poor."
15. In his speech to the NAACP, Romney went off-script and said, "You know, there was a survey of the Chamber of Commerce. They carried out a survey of their members, about 1,500 surveyed. And they asked him what effect Obama care would have on their plans and three-quarters of them said it would make them less likely to hire people."
That's not what happened. The Chamber, a pro-Republican lobbying institution heavily invested in helping Romney, put up an unscientific online survey. Treating this as a legitimate poll of businesses is fundamentally dishonest.
16. Responding to an interview the president did with CBS, Romney argued, "President Obama believes that millions of Americans have lost their homes, their jobs and their livelihood because he failed to tell a good story."
Based on what Obama actually said, there is no universe in which that makes any sense at all.
17. Romney's campaign claimed that health care premiums "are $4,893 higher per family than President Obama promised" in 2008.
The claim is both deeply foolish and completely untrue.
18. In a speech in New Hampshire, responding to the new jobs report, Romney complained, "The highest corporate tax rates in the world do not create jobs."
American corporations do not pay the highest tax rates in the world.
19. Describing economic policies that would improve matters, Romney added, "Opening up new markets in Latin America. The president hasn't done that in three and a half years -- no new trade agreements."
I don't know why Romney keeps telling this lie, but he does.
20. In the same speech, Romney added, "Failing to effectively crack down on China for cheating and stealing American jobs -- that has not helped."
Obama has already cracked down on China in ways Romney doesn't seem to understand.
21. Romney went on to say, "The president's policies have not gotten America working again."
Of course they have.
22. Asked about his lack of specific ideas on the economy, Romney argued, "I don't think I've seen any from the president that -- that show what he's planning on doing."
Romney doesn't have to like the American Jobs Act, but he shouldn't get away with brazenly lying about its existence.
23. In response to a reporter's question about health care, Romney said, "You know, I've spoken about health care from the day we passed it in -- in Massachusetts and people said, is this something that you'd apply at the federal level? And I said no."
He's clearly not telling the truth.
24. Commenting on his plans to eliminate the deficit, Romney argued, "What I describe in my plan is a series of changes to programs and elimination of programs which save more and more money over time, so we're able to get America to a balanced budget in eight to 10 years -- not in the first year, but eight to 10 years."
There's overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Romney says his plan "can't be scored," but independent budget analysts have found his agenda would make the deficit bigger, not smaller, and add trillions to the national debt.
25. At a fundraiser in Montana, Romney told supporters, "The great majority of small business -- 54% of American workers work in businesses taxed as individuals. So when the president wants to raise taxes on individuals as he's proposed from 35% to 40%, he kills jobs. If your priority is crushing people, vote for him."
Only about 3% of American small businesses would be affected by the higher rate, and there is literally no evidence to suggest Clinton-era top rates on the wealthy "kills jobs."
In conclusion, Jay Rosen argued yesterday that Romney and his team appear to be running a "post-truth" campaign, working under the assumption that the media isn't equipped to report the lies. It's a story that's "too big to tell."
It's a fair point, and with just 115 days until the election, it's a dynamic well worth watching.
Problem with that is like everything the left.says....its easily debunked because they're pathological liars.
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Mitt Romney's Bain Secret Exposed
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Romney Campaign, "Nothing to see here".
(http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg)
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Once the PHONY Mormon gets trounced in November, we won't have to deal with his lies, tax evasion, and secrecy any more. ;)
Benny, why do you call him a PHONY Mormon? If you answered last time I asked, I missed the answer.
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There is ONE political party in this country...the filthy rich. they control everything
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all of the Romney stuff has been debunked. benny is a fool.
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Mitt Romney:
Sole Stock Holder
CEO
Chairman of the Board
President
Director of Operations
Bain Capital 2002
According to SEC documents filed in 2002.
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Mitt Romney:
Sole Stock Holder
CEO
Chairman of the Board
President
Director of Operations
Bain Capital 2002
According to SEC documents filed in 2002.
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Hey JT, pull Obamas cock out of that homo muslim mouth of yours and go to another gimmick. Your retardedness knows no bounds.
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Mitt Romney's Bain Secret Exposed
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Romney Campaign, "Nothing to see here".
(http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg)
It's amazing how you libs will hold on to things even though it's been debunked 50000 times already..lol. truly brain dead.haha
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Sadly for republicans, the lies and overall PHONINESS of Willard is leading to his demise. :'(
July 2012 electoral map projection:
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/34/01/3401e5ef9b6b2968ff1839dadade7791.jpeg)
Obama leads 333-205 in most recent Electoral College map projection with polls ;)
I'm sorry, what poll was this again? I don't see a (legit) reference.
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Sadly for republicans, the lies and overall PHONINESS of Willard is leading to his demise. :'(
July 2012 electoral map projection:
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/34/01/3401e5ef9b6b2968ff1839dadade7791.jpeg)
Obama leads 333-205 in most recent Electoral College map projection with polls ;)
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(http://www.electionprojection.com/2012elections/images/PresidentMap071312big.gif)
Seems alot closer than that fuckface.
Projections for Friday, July 13, 2012
Electoral Votes:
Popular Vote:
EV Change: Barack Obama 285
Barack Obama 49.4%
-80
Mitt Romney 253
Mitt Romney 49.1%
+80
Obama +32
Obama +0.3%
http://www.electionprojection.com/2012elections/president12.php
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??? ???
President Obama Job Approval Polls - more polls
Approve 47.0% - Disapprove 48.6%
Polling Firm Date Approve Disapprove
Rasmussen Reports 07/11 46% 52%
Gallup 07/11 45% 47%
Reuters/Ipsos 07/09 48% 47%
Pew Research 07/09 50% 43%
ABC News/Wash Post 07/08 47% 48%
Quinnipiac 07/08 45% 49%
CNN/Opinion Research 07/01 50% 49%
Newsweek/Daily Beast 06/28 45% 54%
Democracy Corps (D) 06/27 47% 48%
http://www.electionprojection.com/2012elections/president12.php
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This will be 500th question that no one will answer but I will try again. Five me.ONE good reason why Obama should be reelected. Even libs can't answer this....but then again we are talking about libs...haha.
I can give you about 10 goods things he did as president but why bother?..you wont accept it anyway
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I can give you about 10 goods things he did as president but why bother?..you wont accept it anyway
Great...but that wasn't my question.
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WORKED?!?!?!? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Fuck that. His grades were complete shit, he got into harvard law because of his skin color. He became a professor, which many people at the school highly disagreed with the idiot being there(wow such a hard lifechanging job teaching 6 hours a week). He then became a career politician. WTF does this guy know about work???!!? Romney made his millions on his own through smart investing. Who gives a shit if he was born rich?? He was a boss on his own and turned around a lot of companies and banked because of his due diligence, risk taking, and smart investing.
interesting....and white people don't get things because of their skin color...............okay
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interesting....and white people don't get things because of their skin color...............okay
I don't remember anything being handed to me because I was white. I did however see many black scholarships given in my high school and college, on the sole basis of the color of their skin.
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I don't remember anything being handed to me because I was white. I did however see many black scholarships given in my high school and college, on the sole basis of the color of their skin.
holy fuck......white students are given scholarships as well and its not always for academic reasons...many get into schools due to legacies created by their fathers being there even though they themselves are not great students.....many get in because daddy gave the school money.....or because who they know..many minorities don't have the money or contacts to get into these schools.....also many of these colleges give scholarships to minorities to make up for their own prejudicial pasts when they would not accept black students no matter how good their grades were....colleges not accepting blacks was a widespread and deeply entrenched tradition.....this included law schools, medical schools, etc......
so you need to study your own history and look at how the racism of your race played a part in whats going on today...not to mention other races get these scholarships as well..yet in your little mind you single out blacks...I wonder why???
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holy fuck......white students are given scholarships as well and its not always for academic reasons...many get into schools due to legacies created by their fathers being there even though they themselves are not great students.....many get in because daddy gave the school money.....or because who they know..many minorities don't have the money or contacts to get into these schools.....also many of these colleges give scholarships to minorities to make up for their own prejudicial pasts when they would not accept black students no matter how good their grades were....colleges not accepting blacks was a widespread and deeply entrenched tradition.....this included law schools, medical schools, etc......
so you need to study your own history and look at how the racism of your race played a part in whats going on today...not to mention other races get these scholarships as well..yet in your little mind you single out blacks...I wonder why???
Um no one gives a shit about legacy, unless you are talking about some Ivy league school. So because of the colleges past, I must pay the price with my superior academics, because I am white with reverse racism. Color shouldn't matter at all. There shouldn't be black scholarships, black colleges, black organizations, etc. You want equality, but chose to segregate yourself based on skin color anyways. If I wanted to make a scholarship for white male students only, there would be a huge uproar.. but if it is for a minority student, then it is welcomed. It is ridiculous. I knew a black kid with a terrible GPA and both his parents were DOCTORS, receiving $30,000 worth of tuition for FREE because of his skin color at my high school. I knew kids at my college that were getting literally paid to go to school almost, and were dumb as a fucking rock. It is a fucking joke. The world is against the white male now, when will people wake up and realize this. The group who has done the most for America is now the bad guy and the most discriminated against. There are so many women and minority programs out there, but god forbid if there is something for white males. People will say, oh you guys don't need it, you never had problems with discrimination.. Which is a complete crock of shit. We are being discriminated against now! Every time you apply to school or apply to job you are filling out information about your race so organizations can meet some bullshit mandatory affirmative action quota(WHICH OBAMA BENEFITTED FROM GREATLY) where undeserving students get in, based on everything else but the actual credentials.
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Do any of you idiots realize that the government is controlled by big corporations and your vote means jack shit ???
LOL @ arguing about something you have no control over. :D
Exactly. The only way out of this cannot be said even on Getbig!
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Um no one gives a shit about legacy, unless you are talking about some Ivy league school. So because of the colleges past, I must pay the price with my superior academics, because I am white with reverse racism. Color shouldn't matter at all. There shouldn't be black scholarships, black colleges, black organizations, etc. You want equality, but chose to segregate yourself based on skin color anyways. If I wanted to make a scholarship for white male students only, there would be a huge uproar.. but if it is for a minority student, then it is welcomed. It is ridiculous. I knew a black kid with a terrible GPA and both his parents were DOCTORS, receiving $30,000 worth of tuition for FREE because of his skin color at my high school. I knew kids at my college that were getting literally paid to go to school almost, and were dumb as a fucking rock. It is a fucking joke. The world is against the white male now, when will people wake up and realize this. The group who has done the most for America is now the bad guy and the most discriminated against. There are so many women and minority programs out there, but god forbid if there is something for white males. People will say, oh you guys don't need it, you never had problems with discrimination.. Which is a complete crock of shit. We are being discriminated against now! Every time you apply to school or apply to job you are filling out information about your race so organizations can meet some bullshit mandatory affirmative action quota(WHICH OBAMA BENEFITTED FROM GREATLY) where undeserving students get in, based on everything else but the actual credentials.
HA!!!!..you say color shouldn't matter at all???....thats what blacks have been telling whites for years...LOL....you say Obama benefited greatly from affirmative action???..white males have ALWAYS had affirmative action...its called DISCRIMINATION....hire only us, promote only us....you guys have ALWAYS had affirmative action..it just was called other things....look at BUSH...you think he didn't benefit from preferences????...he was a poor student and was a D student at Yale....yet HE BECAME PRESIDENT AS WELL......he benefited from a preference just as Obama did because his daddy went to Yale...it did not matter what kind of student he was.....JOHN KERRY ran against BUSH and was a D student as well in law school...how did he get into his prestigious college???...daddy's connections...
Here in NY city ITALIANS get preference over others in the college system because they have been victims of past prejudice and discrimination.....white s get handouts too....this has ALWAYS been the case,.,,,yet a black guy gets a chance and you go nuts...again..I WONDER WHY???
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HA!!!!..you say color shouldn't matter at all???....thats what blacks have been telling whites for years...LOL....you say Obama benefited greatly from affirmative action???..white males have ALWAYS had affirmative action...its called DISCRIMINATION....hire only us, promote only us....you guys have ALWAYS had affirmative action..it just was called other things....look at BUSH...you think he didn't benefit from preferences????...he was a poor student and was a D student at Yale....yet HE BECAME PRESIDENT AS WELL......he benefited from a preference just as Obama did because his daddy went to Yale...it did not matter what kind of student he was.....JOHN KERRY ran against BUSH and was a D student as well in law school...how did he get into his prestigious college???...daddy's connections...
Here in NY city ITALIANS get preference over others in the college system because they have been victims of past prejudice and discrimination.....white s get handouts too....this has ALWAYS been the case,.,,,yet a black guy gets a chance and you go nuts...again..I WONDER WHY???
Legacy doesn't matter on race for fucksakes. Again, list the white "handouts" we so often get. Show me the white male only scholarships. Show me the initiative to hire white males. Boohoo the jews have been discriminated again LONG before blacks ever were and they have no problem becoming something in America. The same goes for Asians and Indians. They have NO problem making it in America without all the bullshit. Like I said SHOW ME THE HANDOUTS FOR WHITE MALES ONLY. Legacy has NOTHING to do with race you fucking moron.
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So much emotion invested into politicians who wouldn't even take the time to spit on you. No wonder they get away with what they do. Pandering to the uneducated and stupid works time and time again. Best thing to do is to ignore the whole charade. Don't vote, don't show an interest. They DO NOT, have your interests at heart.
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FAIL: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/politics/john-king-bain/index.html
By John King, CNN Chief National Correspondent
ahahahaha...when CNN is debunking you, you really fucked up.
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George Carlin was absolutely right about American politics.
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It was debunked already. Move on. This is why I asked if Benny was into self mutilation.
Oh, OK.
That makes sense.
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The members of the cult of Obama could care less.
(http://lettingfreedomring.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/obama_lies1.jpg)
Promised we'd be out of Iraq......Bad judgement and a lie.
Admitted he was a socialist piece of shit to a plumber while on camera....Bad judgement.
Promised that unemployment wouldn't rise above 8%......Bad Judgement and a lie.
Promised to close Gitmo within a year.....Bad Judgement and a lie.
Chose Biden to be his VP.....Bad Judgement.
Sat on his hands and did nothing while the guilf of mexico filled with oil....Bad judgement.
Accused an innocent WHITE cop without all the facts.....Bad judgement.
Promised shovel ready jobs and projects....Outright lie.
The stimulus.....Bad judgement filled with lies.
Claims to be a constitutiional lawyer, when it's obvious he doesn't understand the constitution....Bad judgement.
Appointed a racist communist to be his "green czar", and thought he could actually get away with it......Bad judgement.
Pledged his allegiance to ACORN.....Bad judgement.
Pledged his allegiance to SEIU....Bad Judgement.
Sat on his hands regarding the afghanistan troop surge, while our troops died in record numbers.....Bad Judgement to the core.
Ordered the firing of a USDA employee, again, without all the facts......Bad judgement.
Forced a fiasco of a healthcare bill down the throats of americans. The MAJORITY of whom opposed the fiasco......Seriously bad judgement.
Seriously thinks the next repub president won't shitcan said fiasco of a healthcare care bill come january of '13......Bad judgement.
Tried to deny he sat and listened to a racist preacher for twenty years. Tried to convince us that he and Wright aren't racist's......Outright lie and bad judgement.
Outright, documented, proven lies:
- Obama claims he was unaware of Pastor Wrights 911 comments: NYT proves he lied
- Obama claims his father was a goat-herd; actually he was a man of privilege
- Obama claims not an active muslim as child; Indonesian paper proves he lied
- Obama claims father linked to Kennedy’s; Washington Post proves he lied
- Obama claims he wrote the US Treasurer to try to prevent the housing crisis, he did but long after he voted to block McCain’s Bill which would have helped stop the problem
- Obama claims he has Foreign Experience because he lived in Indonesia, he was 6 YO
- Obama claimed his Indonesian School was Christian, it was not it was Muslim and records prove that, he studied the Koran
- Obama claims the way to keep Amrica energy independent is to inflate your tires
- Obama claims to have passed 26 Bill of his own making while in the Senate, he never did such a thing.
- Obama claims he is bipartisan; Congressional Quarterly shows he voted with his party 97% of the time
- Obama's dirty lie scares seniors: falsely claims McCain plans to cut $880 billion from Medicare: liar liar liar says Annenberg Factcheck
- Obama lies about his mother turning to food stamps AND still sending him to top schools; his grandmother paid for education
- Obama said his grandmother was a Christian, is that why she said Salat prayers? And told the NYT she was a strong Muslim
- Obama said he never practiced the Muslim faith, is that why hes was a registered Muslim till 31 YO and practiced the Muslim religion at a Muslim school and in hi you adulthood?
- Obama lied about being asked to wear dead soldier's bracelet: family had asked Obama to stop wearing it
- Obama claimed all new spending is economic plan was self-funding; short by $3.5 Trillion says nonpartisan Tax Policy Center
- Obama denied Admiral Mike Mullen had called Obama's Iraqi troop plan "dangerous"; Mullen made comment on Fox in July 2008 according to WaPo
- Obama lied about Kissinger's views of diplomacy during first debate; Kissinger confirms the lie
- Obama denied voting to tax some people making $42,000 a year: Annenburg Factcheck,org confirms Obama is lying
- After Debate 1, Team Obama denied Obama ever said, "Iran's not a threat": Video proves Obama DID say "Iran is NOT a threat."
- Obama claims under McCain employers would be taxed on the health care benefits it grants to workers; he's lying
- Obama refers to an Iraqi surplus of $79 billion and says US should have it; its $60 billion and dwindling
- Obama claims only 5% of Americans would see tax increase; he's grossly understating the number of people effected
- Obama accuses McCain of lying about Biden being against clean coal; video proves Obama is lying
- Obama claims McCain is opposed to abortion in cases of rape or incest; McCain has never held that position.
- Obama accuses McCain of making an ad about Obama's vote to approve leaving babies who survive abortion procedures to die; McCain did not make the ad
- Obama said he always supported medical care to protect infants; text of the Bill he supported shows he wanted babies born alive after abortions to be left to die
- Obama's ad on abortion uses quotes by journalists who made negative comments about a McCain ad; but Obama is misleading because both journalists have been proven to be incorrect
- Obama's lying when he says McCain's ad misstated BHO's Sex Ed for Kindergartners Bill: McCain's ad was accurate; here's the Sex Ed Bill text
- Obama and Biden both truncate McCain's comments on the strength of the economy's fundamentals: deliberate distortion
- Biden claims McCain tried to hurt our veterans by denying them educational benefits; NewsWeek confirms Biden is lying
- Obama claims under McCain, Elderly would have had Social Security tied up in the Stock market; Newsweek cries BS
- Obama claims his opponent will cut social security in half: NOT true; Obama guilty of scare-mongering aimed at Seniors
- Obama claimed during the primary he had more Ex President Clinton Foreign Policy advisers than Sen. Clinton; she had 70% more
- Obama claimed his father served in World War 2: his Kenyan-born father never served
- Obama grossly misquoted Sen.Clinton about her vote on a banking bill; BHO used the false quote to show why voters don't trust Government
- Obama claimed employers are more likely to be struck by lightning than be prosecuted for employing illegals; Gov stats prove he's lying
- Pushing his Green agenda Obama claimed Japanese Car average 45 mpg fuel efficiency; its actually around 29 mph
- Obama disparaged the President saying he hadn't met with auto makers until the sixth year of his presidency; GWB met automakers in April 2003
- Obama disparaged the efficiency of our healthcare system saying the U.S. spends twice per capita than other countries: WaPo proves he's lying
- Obama claims President Clinton's Labor Secretary said BHO's healthcare plan, "Does more than anybody to reduce costs"; Robert Reich did NOT say it
- Obama falsely claimed he won the Michigan Democrat primary: he was not on the ballot
- Obama's Spanish language ad lies about McCain's position on immigration; tries to stir race-war: lies debunked by ABC
- Obama lies about his interference in Iraqi negotiations; but his campaign admits his treachery
- Obama took credit for the economic stimulus package passed in Feb 08; BHO's colleagues on Capitol Hill cry BS
- Obama claims Big Oil is ignoring 68 million acres of oil fields they could be drilling; most fields are being worked
- Obama claims never questions his opponent's patriotism; asks of McCain "WHICH country first?": ABC says he's questioning McCain's patriotism
- Obama claims personal savings rates are lowest since the Great Depression; currently higher than under President Clinton
- Obama claims on this video that he doesn't switch positions; list of 31 flip flops show he's lying
- Obama puffed his resume claiming he was a "Professor"; State Senate bio shows he was not ; he now agrees
- Obam said an Ebony Magazine article inspired him to run for office, funny Ebony has yet to find the Article.
- When Obama ran for US Senate his web site claimed "5 years as a community organizer"; he admits it was only 3 years
- Obama's attack ad in Michigan claims McCain doesn't support loan guarantees for auto-industry. McCain DOES support them
- Obama says "if we're STILL in recession when he takes office...etc"; the economy is NOT in recession
- Obama claims he signed up for Selective Service when he graduated from High School; records show he did NOT until he'd been at college 1 year
- Attacking Palin, Obama has the audacity to claim,"Words mean something; you can't just make things up "; BHO makes stuff up
- Obama drew the Nation's attention to problems at Walter Reed Army Hospital; it was two WaPo reporters that reported the issues to the Nation
- Obama lies yet again to disparage Gov. Palin; ignores her executive experience as Governor of Alaska
- Obama says the US economy has failed under Bush; World Bank stats proves Obama's been lying; US a world leader in growth, employment, incomes
- Obama claims if you are born into poverty in America you are on your own: there are many government programs
- Obama claims he's bi-partisan: voting records prove Obama is #11 most partisan
- Claimed Hillary would be on anyone's short-list; Hillary wasn't on Obama's short-list
- Obama claims abortion rates have not gone down under the Bush Administration; stats show they have gone down
- Obama dismissed Bomber Bill Ayers as "some guy who lives in the neighborhood";they had a close working relationship
- Obama claims there's no charge to attend his acceptance speech: CBS 4 in Denver proves he's lying; some tickets cost $1000
- Obama used being a first-time-buyer to justify consulting with Rezko before he bought his house; BHO had already purchased a residence
- Obama lies about his support for infanticide; campaign concedes in 03 he opposed a bill stopping the killing of kids born alive after abortions
- Obama overstates Oil Industry's contributions to McCain; ignores cash the Oil industry gave BHO; Newsweek debunks
- Obama exaggerated the growth in Debt under the current Administration; debunked by WaPo
- Obama claims President George W Bush had not left the country before he became President; WaPo confirms he's lying
- To promote "green", Obama claimed he drove a vehicle that uses ethanol; GM confirmed the model was NOT ethanol-ready
- Obama claims he's taking his family for a week's rest in Hawaii with no campaigning; schedules a rally for first day
- : Obama claims "properly inflating tires" will save as much energy as we could drill offshore; analysis shows not even close
- Obama denies accusing McCain of using race against him; ABC, NYT confirm Obama did accuse McCain of making racial attacks
- Obama claims he's not being political when he's flip-flopping; timing & direction of major flip-flops show he's lying
- Obama INVENTS a wall between Christians and Jews; deceptively omits the major religious wall is caused by a "fatwah" to kill American Christians and Jews
- Obama claims he made a substantive call for Germany to help in Iraq; Berlin speech transcript proves he's lying
- Obama lied about his father's religious upbringing! half-brother confirms Obama's father was "RAISED Muslim"
- Obama claimed we only made one fundraising trip to Florida during the Primary; Florida papers proved he lied
- Obama claims reducing obesity to 80's levels would save Medicaid ONE TRILLION DOLLARS; not even close
- Obama claimed demands on Nat Guard personnel hurt flood relief; Guards prove lying
- Claimed due to overseas commitments, too few helecopters were available to help with Midwest flood relief; now concedes not true
- Obama claimed Clinton's healthcare plan would "punish families that couldn't afford healthcare"; NYT calls BS
- Obama claims McCain's tax plan will do nothing to help the middle-class: The Tax Policy Center proves he's lying
- Obama claims the use of an Email with a big red DONATE button is NOT a fundraising solicitation
- Obama claims his trip to Europe was non-political: uses video of Berlin speech to raise money within hours
- Obama tells NBC that during the debate on the Surge he said the Surge would work in Baghdad; video proves during the debate he said the opposite
- Obama's "Changing World" ad claims he'll fast-track alternatives to oil to stop us buying from hostile nations; "fast track" is totally misleading
- Obama tells Israeli media that he's a member of the Senate Banking Committee; CNN confirms he's delusional
- Obama claims Lou Dobbs caused hate crimes against Latinos to double; the FBI and CNN confirm Obama is lying
- Obama claims the military brass think like he does; top US commanders say his plan for Iraq is unworkable
- Obama promised to filibust FISA; later Obama voted for FISA and now denies changing his position
- Obama belittles Americans claiming we can't speak European languages; he's talking merde; mierda; Scheiße
- Obama denied he accused President Bush of starting the War for political reasons; Russert transcript proves Obama made that false claim
- Obama claims there has been substantial job losses from NAFTA; Independent studies show its at least" job neutral"
- Obama Claimed in Feb 08 he got 90% of funds from donors giving $25, $50; fed filings show he got only about a third from donors below $200
- Obama rewrites history about what specifically he had said during his October 2002 anti-war speech
- Obama claimed in 04 that he had never supported bringing troops out of Iraq; rare video of 03 Teamsters rally shows he's lying
- To justify move to private funds, Obama claims McCain's campaign is" fuelled" by PACs and Lobbyists; its less than 2% of McCain's money
- Obama's "Dignity" ad claims he "worked his way" thru college and law school; campaign admits only two summer jobs
- Obama's "Dignity" ad gives him credit for reducing Welfare rolls by 80%: he's deceptive as he was opposed to Fed Welfare Reform in '96
- In Obama's The Country I love ad, he takes credit for passing a healthcare bill he did NOT vote for
- Obama Claims he first ran in Chicago as an unendorsed candidate; his '96 election questionnaire proves he had several
- Obama claims he wants a vigorous and open debate on the issues: then goes out of his way to avoid it
- Obama omits key details about a false rumor re video of Michelle's "whitey" rant to justify breaking his public funding promise
- Obama tries to deceive about why he voted "present" more than 100 times in the Illinois Senate; Chicago paper reveals the truth
- Trying to claim patriotism Obama says his grandad signed up the day after Pearl Harbor; army records disagree
- Obama Claims race and party not important to how people vote as they put America first; 93% block vote disproves
- On June 5, Obama stated that Israel must remain undivided; June 6 on CNN he reversed his position, but denied he had done so
- To further his own agenda, Obama grossly overstates the number of potential African-American votes in MS, GA, SC
- Obama Promised of $2500 reduction in Healthcare premiums needs billions in Admin cost savings by 2012: not possible
- Obama omits to mention his 3 week trip to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan until it slips out trying to out-do Clinton
- Obama claims McCain wants to wage a lengthy war in Iraq: Video proves Obama's lying
- Obama claimed he never prayed in a mosque; his campaign had to retract that statement
- Obama dishonestly used endorsements in ads to pump up his healthcare plan
- Claims he never discussed politics with Pastor; rebutted by photo of Obama with team of lobbyists led by Wright
- Obama, an expert at parsing words, claimed he wasn't familiar with the word "Clintonian"; then changed his story
- Despite reeking of cigarettes, Obama denied smoking to ABC; now admits smoking on MSNBC
- Obama said he'd meet unconditionally with Leader of Iran: now claims he "didn't have Ahmadinejad in mind"
- Obama claims he is using public financing to avoid special interests: WSJ nails his switcheroo
- Obama's rhetoric claims more young black men in jail than college: BoJ Stats disprove
- Obama claims he never said he was a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare; Video proves he did
- Obama claims remarks to industrialists were greeted with silence, shows he can deliver tough message: video of ovation
- Obamas claim you dont rip opponents & leave on roadside:he did to Alice Palmer
- Obama denies saying Indiana could be tie-breaker: he did
- Obama omits that Pastor Wright led divestiture campaign from Israel
- Obama claims Church not controversial; he knew it was controversial since 86
- Lied about intention of taking US out of NAFTA
- Obamas claim poverty growing up: both distort reality
- Obama denies meeting Saddam's Auchi; sworn Fed. witness places Obama at undisclosed party for Auchi at Rezkos
- Obama lies about not attacking Clinton over her Bosnia lies
- Obama claims he passed ethics reform; ABC News shows he lied
- Obama says he's consistently opposed NAFTA; in October 2007 he supported expansion to Peru
- Obama claims he's above dirty political tricks; Clinton proves he lies
- Obama claims his "bitter" remarks were mangled; then repeats attacks on guns religion and angry people
- Obama claims never said he wouldn't wear US flag-pin; video shows he did
- Obama says he did no favors for Rezko;untrue; he lobbied for him
- Obama changes story repeatedly re Rezko's help in buying mansion
- Obama claims he never supported a ban on handguns; he has twice
- Obama claims stays at UCC as Pastor acknowledged comments were inappropriate; Wright never made this statement
- Obama campaign is beholden to "only the people" as unlike McCain/Clinton he does not take lobbyist /PAC money; LIES!
- Obama claims campaign never called Canada to say Obama not truthful re wanting leave NAFTA; smoking gun memo proves lied
- Obama claimed would not run for President, as he would not be qualified by 2008: confirmed 3 times to Tim Russert in one 2006 interview
- Obama claims famous in IL. for not letting lobbyists even buy him lunch; took from teachers, trial lawyers, hospital admins
- Obama claims he has no Lobbyists, he has more than 45
- Obama claims his parents met at 1965 Selma civil rights march; Washington Post noted it occurred 4 yrs after Obama's birth
- Obam claims courageously opposed war in 2002 during US Senate campaign; He did not announce his senate bid until 2003
- Obama claims he passes tough Nuclear Law; NYT uncovers he took Nuclear Industry pay-off and watered down the bill
- Obama claimed he didn't know Rezko was corrupt when did a real estate deal with him; Chicago papers prove he lied
- Obama laims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied
- Obana denies using his Hopefund PAC to influence endorsers; but the Washington Post reviewed the record and disagreed
- Obama claims his State Chair is not a drug company lobbyist; Time magazine cries Bull
- Obama lies about how much he received in campaign funds from Rezko; forced to significantly increase the amount twice
- Obama claims he did not fill out the 1996 candidate questionaire; Politico proves he lied
- Obama took credit for achievement of others in Chicago; resume puffing exposed by LA Times
- Obama claims he kept no State Senate records; now he changes his story
- Omaba denies doubling wife's salary was due to becoming US Senator; omits within months he earmarked $1 million for hospital
- Obama denied meeting Saddam bagman Auchi; now admits he was at his dinner but does not remember talking to him
- Obama denies using his church for politics: IRS disagree
so suddenly it matters again? ::)
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The members of the cult of Obama could care less.
S'up, PEA BRAIN! ;D
About time you put down the gimmicks and posted here under your main account. ::)
Do you have any plans for the weekend? Besides masturbating and posting on getbig 100+ times a day? Will you leave the apartment?
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Benny, why do you call him a PHONY Mormon? If you answered last time I asked, I missed the answer.
Benny, what is it about the Mormon religion and his actions that make you say he is a Phony Mormon ???
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Just out of curiousity, who gets to assign the emoticons to threads?
Did a mod give this thread a thumbs down or does a user somehow do that? Does the OP do that?
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Benny, what is it about the Mormon religion and his actions that make you say he is a Phony Mormon ???
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I don't understand the source of your confusion, Butterbean.
Do you need an explanation of what makes Willard a follower of the Mormon faith, or are you asking for clarification as to why he is a complete PHONY? :-\
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Just out of curiousity, who gets to assign the emoticons to threads?
Did a mod give this thread a thumbs down or does a user somehow do that? Does the OP do that?
The op picks it.
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I don't understand the source of your confusion, Butterbean.
Do you need an explanation of what makes Willard a follower of the Mormon faith, or are you asking for clarification as to why he is a complete PHONY? :-\
Idiot...if you think he's a complete phony you could call him a"Mormon phony". If you think he's a fake Mormon you would call him a "phony Mormon". Is English your second language or are you a product of an urban US public school.
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Idiot...if you think he's a complete phony you could call him a"Mormon phony". If you think he's a fake Mormon you would call him a "phony Mormon". Is English your second language or are you a product of an urban US public school.
He's retarded.
And a limp wristed nancy boy.
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I don't understand the source of your confusion, Butterbean.
Do you need an explanation of what makes Willard a follower of the Mormon faith, or are you asking for clarification as to why he is a complete PHONY? :-\
"The unemployment rate has remained above 8 percent for 35 straight months, the longest such stretch since the Great Depression."
One and Done = November 2012, the White House fumigation can begin.
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When is Willard going to release all of his tax returns? ::)
As soon as Obama releases all the information on Operation Fast & Furious.....
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From the Washington Post Fact Checker:
"Why does it matter when Mitt Romney left Bain Capital?
Millions of dollars of attack ads by the Obama campaign are hanging in the balance. If Romney left Bain in February 1999, when he departed to run the Olympics, then a number of business deals that went sour (such as KB Toys) can’t be counted as part of Romney’s tenure. If he actually left in 2002, as the Obama campaign alleges, then those deals are fair game.
We have looked at this issue before, back in January, and thought we had settled it.
But now the Boston Globe has raised the issue again. The story seems to hinge on a quote from a former Securities and Exchange Commission member, which would have more credibility if the Globe had disclosed she was a regular contributor to Democrats. (Interestingly, “The Real Romney,” a book on the former Massachusetts governor, by Boston Globe reporters, states clearly that he left Bain when he went to run the Olympics and details the turmoil that ensued when he suddenly quit, nearly breaking up the partnership)
We’re considering whether to once again take a deeper look at this, though it really feels like Groundhog Day again. There appears to be some confusion about how partnerships are structured and managed, or what SEC documents mean. (Just because you are listed as an owner of shares does not mean you have a managerial role.)
To accept some of the claims, one would have to believe that Romney, with the advice of his lawyers, lied on government documents and committed a criminal offense. Moreover, you would have to assume he willingly gave up his share to a few years of retirement earnings — potentially worth millions of dollars — so he could say his retirement started in 1999.
UPDATE: Fortune obtained the offering documents for a Bain Capital Fund circulating in June 2000, as well as a fund in 2001. None of the documents show that Romney was listed as being among the “key investment professionals.” As Fortune put it, “the contemporaneous Bain documents show that Romney was indeed telling the truth about no longer having operational input at Bain -- which, one should note, is different from no longer having legal or financial ties to the firm.”
For interested readers, below is a summary of what we, FactCheck.org and Fortune magazine have previously concluded.
The Fact Checker, Jan. 18, 2012
A 2002 statement he filed with the Massachusetts State Ethics Commission on his financial interests lists ownership of various Bain entities, some of which appear to intersect with the funds that invested in KB Toys. The document says that Romney is “a passive, limited partner [with] no management capacity” in many of these funds.
In the Massachusetts document, Romney is also listed as 100 percent owner of “Bain Capital Inc.” But there is less than meets the eye here. Bain Capital Inc. was the management firm, which was paid a management fee to run the funds and actually made virtually no profit, since it existed to pay salaries and expenses. After Romney formally left Bain in 2001, a new entity called “Bain Capital LLC” took over the management function.
By virtually all accounts, Romney was focused on the Olympics in the 1999-2002 period. Yet because Romney had not legally separated from Bain, his name is littered across Securities and Exchange Commission filings concerning Bain Capital deals during this period. The crazy quilt of private-equity structures, in some ways, makes his ownership appear even more ominous, as the filings list hundreds of thousands of shares controlled by Romney.
Even so, it is a real stretch to claim that Romney — himself — “closed” these stores. No evidence has emerged that he was involved in the KB Toys transaction. Indeed, when creditors sued over the dividend payment, they named six Bain-controlled entities and three Bain executives who had served on the board of KB Holdings.
Given that the plaintiffs’ lawyers will try to list as many defendants as possible to try to force a settlement, one can be certain Romney would have been named if there had been any hint of his involvement. But he was not named, despite the SEC filings suggesting his control of the shares.
In other words, creditors apparently had determined Romney was only a passive investor.
FactCheck.Org, July 2, 2012
If the Obama campaign were correct, Romney would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999….
And after reviewing evidence cited by the Obama campaign, we reaffirm our conclusion that Romney left the helm of Bain Capital when he took a leave of absence in 1999 to run the Salt Lake City Organizing Committee for the 2002 Winter Olympics – as he has said repeatedly — and never returned to active management. The Obama campaign’s recent ads thus mislead when they point to investments made by Bain, as well as management decisions made by companies in which Bain invested, after that time.
What does the Obama campaign have in rebuttal? Very little, and none of it convincing in our judgment.
Much of the Obama campaign’s letter is devoted to quoting portions of documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In summary, the letter states there are “at least 63 filings with that agency after March 1, 1999 that list various Bain entities and describe them as ‘wholly owned by W. Mitt Romney.’” That’s true, but not relevant.
We have never disputed that Romney remained the owner of Bain while he was running the Olympics committee. The issue always has been, who was running Bain? Nothing in the SEC documents contradicts what Romney has certified as true.
On that point, the Obama campaign cites snippets of a few news clippings to make a case that Romney was still a part-time manager of Bain after he left to run the Olympics. But a close reading shows these news accounts don’t contradict Romney either.
Fortune Magazine, July 2, 2012
Remember, Romney did not leave Bain Capital as part of a long-term, planned succession process. Instead, his departure was fairly sudden — borne of a desire to help salvage an Olympic Games that was $1.4 billion in the hole and tarred by a massive bribery scandal. The very first reports of Romney being considered for the Salt Lake City job were on Feb. 2, 1999. Just nine days later, he officially took over.
Not surprisingly, Bain Capital hadn’t worked out all the details of Romney’s departure. It eventually would discard the CEO position in favor of a horizontal management committee made up of numerous partners, and provide Romney with a golden parachute that included limited partnership interests in all Bain-related funds raised through 2009 (including the option for Romney to invest additional monies). But none of that was in place when Romney took the Salt Lake City job.
Moreover, unwinding a private equity firm’s ownership structure is extremely complicated. The “firm” itself is largely a legal construct of convenience, since it doesn’t pay salaries, make investments or do much of anything else. Instead, what matters are the individual funds.
In the case of Bain Capital’s funds, it’s reasonable to assume that Romney was considered a “key man,” meaning that each fund’s limited partners could have voted to end the fund’s investment period — or take over fund management themselves — if a super-majority felt it prudent. But that didn’t happen, and Bain saw no reason to expend massive administrative effort to amend existing funds. Instead, it asked Romney to sign documents when necessary, and made the managerial/ownership changes on new funds going forward….
The part about lying to the SEC is absurd, since the SEC doesn’t require an owner to be the operational decision-maker (Romney delegated such responsibilities, as is his right)."
Obama = Liar in Chief
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Willard's secrecy and deliberate obfuscation will have him all but "officially toast" by Labor day.
Stating that "Obama lies too!" may work on getdumb, however, it is not working elsewhere, simpletons. ::) That only works on drooling repube FOX Joke Channel viewers who will be crying into their beers come November. :'(
GOP governor calls on Romney to release more tax returns
ABC News' Michael Falcone and Arlette Saenz report:
WILLIAMSBURG, Va. - Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley, in an interview with ABC News today, called on presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney to release his tax returns in order to show voters that he has "nothing to hide."
Bentley said that Romney's refusal to release more returns has created a "distraction" that Democrats were successfully exploiting.
"I just believe in total transparency," Bentley told ABC News at the National Governors Association conference. "In fact, I was asked today that question - do you think that Governor Romney should release his tax returns? And I said I do. I said, I release my tax returns. I may be the only public official in Alabama that does, but I release mine every year and I just believe that people should release their tax returns. And if you get them out and just get past that, it just makes it so much easier."
Bentley, who took office in 2001, warned that failure to do so would continue to open the door for the Obama campaign and their Democratic allies to "cause distractions away from the real issue in this campaign and that's the economy."
Earlier this year, Romney released his 2010 tax documents and his estimated returns for 2011, but so far he has declined to offer disclosures for additional years and has indicated he is unlikely to do so. Democrats have pounced on Romney for what they see as a lack of transparency.
"They're doing everything they can to hurt Governor Romney and tax returns will be one of those things," Bentley said. "So the best thing to do is just get everything out in the open and just say, 'hey I have nothing to hide and I'm going to release my tax returns.'"
The Republican governor, who voted for Rick Santorum over Romney in his state's presidential primary, added: "I think that it's always easier just to say, hey I'm releasing everything, and just get it out there and then get past it."
That strategy, Bentley said, would allow the former Massachusetts governor to " start talking about the issues that I think that the people of America really are concerned about and that's our economy and jobs and 8.4 percent unemployment rate and a $16 trillion debt."
Responding to the Alabama governor's comments, Obama campaign spokeswoman Elisabeth Smith said: "We agree with Governor Bentley - Mitt Romney should exhibit total transparency and release his tax returns."
Smith added, "That's the only way the American people will learn about his motivations on critical policy matters and whether he invested in foreign tax havens and offshore accounts to avoid paying U.S. taxes or hedge against the dollar."
Stating that "Obama lies too!" is not working, simpletons. ::) That only works on drooling repube FOX Joke Channel viewers who will be crying into their beers come November. :'(
D'oh! :D
Obama leads 333-205 in most recent Electoral College map projection with polls
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I don't understand the source of your confusion, Butterbean.
Do you need an explanation of what makes Willard a follower of the Mormon faith, or are you asking for clarification as to why he is a complete PHONY? :-\
I'm asking what makes you think he is a "Phony Mormon"...as flipper said, that indicates you think he is a "fake" Mormon, or a Mormon "imposter" type. There must be some type of hypocrisy you see regarding his actions and his religion and that is why you call him a phony Mormon?
But maybe you are just saying he is a "complete PHONY" in his entire personna (as above) but just happened to put Mormon in that description?
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Obama is the biggest fraud of all...not only is he lying his ass off now, but his conduct in the campaign thus far shows that his persona from 2008...the post partisan, agent of change...was a complete lie as well.
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Benny - has obama ever told a lie?