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Title: Such a tool
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2012, 09:33:42 PM
“If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own.” - Barack Hussain Obama
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2012, 09:35:45 PM
No one man is an island unto himself.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2012, 09:38:34 PM
He is 100% right. People don't get their on their own. People that are usually successful go to schools where teachers teach them and care for them and support them. They grow up in communities that may foster development by providing a safe haven to thrive in. Children born to good parents are awarded opportunities to thrive. There is a direct relationship between good parents and positive future outcomes for children. People are directly and indirectly effected by many factors that make them who they are today. Of course the individual is responsible for taking advantage of these opportunities. However, you cannot dismiss the role of community and environmental factors.

Do some research on other things besides weightlifting and you may learn a thing or two.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: chaos on July 14, 2012, 09:42:31 PM
SF1900 exposing his lust for the BBPC in this thread.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2012, 09:43:30 PM
SF1900 exposing his lust for the BBPC in this thread.

I don't even know what BBPC stands for :(
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: haider on July 14, 2012, 09:45:41 PM
SF1900 exposing his lust for the BBPC in this thread.
big black political conservatives

Oh and i see nothing wrong with baracks statement, joe. We're all dependent on each other to succeed,  especially jesus.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 14, 2012, 09:46:24 PM
Every single musician was influenced by someone before them.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 14, 2012, 09:47:50 PM
Someone in this thread doesn't believe in "paying it forward"
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 14, 2012, 09:50:26 PM
“If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own.” - Barack Hussain Obama

One of your only decent posts.

Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2012, 09:53:13 PM
There was plenty of speculation yesterday about what could have made so many people faint during President Obama’s speech in Roanoke, Va. Hot Air has reviewed the official White House transcript of the campaign event and perhaps has uncovered the precise words which rendered so many unconscious — especially those who have built their own businesses.

Echoing Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren’s claim that “there is nobody in this country who got rich on his own,” Obama told those left standing by the end of his speech that “if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own.” And that wasn’t all.

http://twitchy.com/2012/07/14/obama-reminds-business-owners-you-didnt-build-that/


This clown is so clueless he's deaf, dumb and blind.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2012, 09:54:24 PM
big black political conservatives

Oh and i see nothing wrong with baracks statement, joe. We're all dependent on each other to succeed,  especially jesus.

You and "barack" on a first name basis?
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: tonymctones on July 14, 2012, 09:54:43 PM
the ideals that obama subscribe to are highlighted in malcom gladwells outliers.

anybody that has read that book can see the point obama is making, the problem is he is also missing a broader point.

the thing is that the successful ppl also have to work 10 times harder than the other 9 ppl do that didnt become succesful.

he and others discount the hardwork these succesful ppl put into their success.

the govt doesnt and SHOULDNT strive to generate equal results, which is what the utopian would like to move towards.

Equal opportunity and the ability to make your own choices is what should be strived for.

Unfortunately this is to "cruel" a concept for some and they just cant seem to come to terms with the idea that in life there are losers and winners even if the difference between them is just luck.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 14, 2012, 09:57:19 PM
Every single musician was influenced by someone before them.

Every single gym owner was influenced by someone before them
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: che on July 14, 2012, 09:59:35 PM


the thing is that the successful ppl also have to work 10 times harder than the other 9 ppl do that didnt become succesful.


Bullshit
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2012, 10:00:15 PM
Every single gym owner was influenced by someone before them

Just not the government, which is what this fuckhead is suggesting.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Stefano on July 14, 2012, 10:00:53 PM
He is right but as usual If you're anti obama like coach you'll find someway to spin this into a negative. Never fails to make me laugh how idiots take liberal views, conservative views on everything. Learn to think for yourself instead of listening to your liberal/conservative masters.

Did arnold make it on his own? No. He had joe to help him. You can supply all the dicipline and drive but without someone to help open doors for you you're doomed to failure.

Hey coach did you make it on your own? How did you open your gym? Did you come up with all the cash yourself or did you have to reach out to investors to help you?

Since you're conservative i suppose if palin said it you'd fall off your chair applauding.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: haider on July 14, 2012, 10:01:14 PM
You and "barack" on a first name basis?
?

Obama/barack doesnt matter, no reason to say one or the other. Can you state your point in creating this thread. Btw, isnt humility in your acheivements a christian value? ;D

I have a hard time seeing how the republican brand of libertarianism goes along with christian values.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: tonymctones on July 14, 2012, 10:01:26 PM
Bullshit
BRILLIANT!!!

I guess that proves it...
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2012, 10:01:57 PM
Just not the government, which is what this fuckhead is suggesting.

Arent people influenced by Jesus Christ and God to do good things? Someone who is a devout believer may become what he is today because of his belief in God. This sort of contradicts your initial statement OP  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2012, 10:03:28 PM
?

Obama/barack doesnt matter, no reason to say one or the other. Can you state your point in creating this thread. Btw, isnt humility in your acheivements a christian value? ;D

I have a hard time seeing how the republican brand of libertarianism goes along with christian values.

There are very few republicans whos beliefs and ideas and values align with the bible. In fact, its in direct opposition, yet all these republicans love god  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2012, 10:04:51 PM
He is right but as usual If you're anti obama like coach you'll find someway to spin this into a negative. Never fails to make me laugh how idiots take liberal views, conservative views on everything. Learn to think for yourself instead of listening to your liberal/conservative masters.

Did arnold make it on his own? No. He had joe to help him. You can supply all the dicipline and drive but without someone to help open doors for you you're doomed to failure.

Hey coach did you make it on your own? How did you open your gym? Did you come up with all the cash yourself or did you have to reach out to investors to help you?

1. Yes

2. I saved

3. No investors what so ever

4. I own every piece of equipment in my gym.

5. In MY business, if I don't have the cash, I don't buy it until I can afford it.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Stefano on July 14, 2012, 10:05:05 PM
Arent people influenced by Jesus Christ and God to do good things? Someone who is a devout believer may become what he is today because of his belief in God. This sort of contradicts your initial statement OP  :-\ :-\

Haha exactly .common sense fails people who take only narrow points of view. They brainwash themselves to think a certain way and every opposing view is wrong. This is whats tearing the country up.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: che on July 14, 2012, 10:06:49 PM
1. Yes


So your wife didn't help you ?  what a bitch .
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Stefano on July 14, 2012, 10:07:41 PM
1. Yes

2. I saved

3. No investors what so ever

4. I own every piece of equipment in my gym.

5. In MY business, if I don't have the cash, I don't buy it until I can afford it.

I seem to recall you mentioning investors in the past. So basically you made it through life so far with no help from anyone right?
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2012, 10:08:30 PM
Haha exactly .common sense fails people who take only narrow points of view. They brainwash themselves to think a certain way and every opposing view is wrong. This is whats tearing the country up.

While Coach appears to be a decent guy, he really doesn't think too deeply about things. If it doesnt involve God or Republicans, its automatically dismissed.

One doesnt need to look too deep to realize that people become who they are today due to a variety of factors, ranging from biological factors to individual responsibility to the community.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2012, 10:08:52 PM
I seem to recall you mentioning investors in the past. So basically you made it through life so far with no help from anyone right?

yes....especially the government as Obama is suggesting.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 14, 2012, 10:13:56 PM
yes....especially the government as Obama is suggesting.

I see Obama as the douche who is pushing the OnE World Government-anti American agenda more than anyone. The problem is, he is just the puppet who we all get to point at. We need to dig deeper into who is actually controlling this thing. Obama is the easy scapegoat. In fact, "they" put the negro there so we would all blame the colored man.  But holy fck, what did Bush do just before Obama was elected. What a fukcing mess that was. Come ON!!!
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Stefano on July 14, 2012, 10:14:40 PM
yes....especially the government as Obama is suggesting.

Why are you going back to obama and the govt over and over? You seem to be obssesed with this train of thought. The question was did you make it through life this far with no help from anyone.  If you answered yes..then...well ..you really live in a delusional world.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: DanielPaul on July 14, 2012, 10:16:29 PM
Agree'd mostly, but Its a little hard to swallow when a goverment that has far outspent its means over the last 11 years tell you that you need to do a little bit more when they clearly have failed to spend  wisely.  Im not a lib or repub, I can see that the policies of libs errode our society by keeping people dependant just as much as the repubs determination to keep rich people wealthy does.  Obamma is no fucking rain maker he is in over his head and makes poor choices and his people always love to jump to race baiting everytime someone challenges his ideas.  
He is 100% right. People don't get their on their own. People that are usually successful go to schools where teachers teach them and care for them and support them. They grow up in communities that may foster development by providing a safe haven to thrive in. Children born to good parents are awarded opportunities to thrive. There is a direct relationship between good parents and positive future outcomes for children. People are directly and indirectly effected by many factors that make them who they are today. Of course the individual is responsible for taking advantage of these opportunities. However, you cannot dismiss the role of community and environmental factors.

Do some research on other things besides weightlifting and you may learn a thing or two.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: The_Hammer on July 14, 2012, 10:16:35 PM

He is 100% right. People don't get their on their own. People that are usually successful go to schools where teachers teach them and care for them and support them. They grow up in communities that may foster development by providing a safe haven to thrive in. Children born to good parents are awarded opportunities to thrive. There is a direct relationship between good parents and positive future outcomes for children. People are directly and indirectly effected by many factors that make them who they are today. Of course the individual is responsible for taking advantage of these opportunities. However, you cannot dismiss the role of community and environmental factors.



100% correct!
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 14, 2012, 10:18:54 PM
I seem to recall you mentioning investors in the past. So basically you made it through life so far with no help from anyone right?

If doesn't matter if there are investors you idiot, they're not investing to help you.  They're investing to help themselves. 
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 14, 2012, 10:20:21 PM
One doesnt need to look too deep to realize that people become who they are today due to a variety of factors, ranging from biological factors to individual responsibility to the community.

You're right about that, but I don't believe that is where Obama was going with this.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2012, 10:22:22 PM
Why are you going back to obama and the govt over and over? You seem to be obssesed with this train of thought. The question was did you make it through life this far with no help from anyone.  If you answered yes..then...well ..you really live in a delusional world.

I see you're a spin doctor much like your hero Obama. He's referring to government. If you mean did I have help from my family when i was a child...then I guess, yes I had help. But NEVER NEVER even when I was at my lowest as a single parent EVER depend on government assistance, like Obama is insinuating. Most libs don't get that part.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 14, 2012, 10:24:09 PM
If doesn't matter if there are investors you idiot, they're not investing to help you.  They're investing to help themselves. 

Exactly, but I still had no investors. There was a time that I was thinking of it but then it wouldn't be mine.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 14, 2012, 10:25:21 PM
Exactly, but I still had no investors. There was a time that I was thinking of it but then it wouldn't be mine.

Good for you Coach.  Glad we can finally almost agree politically. :)






I remember back when George W. was absolutely destroying this country and you defended everything he did.  >:(
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Stefano on July 14, 2012, 10:26:03 PM
I see you're a spin doctor much like your hero Obama. He's referring to government. If you mean did I have help from my family when i was a child...then I guess, yes I had help. But NEVER NEVER even when I was at my lowest as a single parent EVER depend on government assistance, like Obama is insinuating. Most libs don't get that part.

Hate to disappoint ya buddy but i ve never favored either party. I sure as hell care less about your liberal conservative battles. Both are equal idiots who only see one side. Did obama mention that people cant make it unless the govt helps them? I didnt hear or read this speech. Is that what he said or are you interpreting what he said to suit your views of him? Who's the spin doctor now?
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2012, 10:27:28 PM
I see you're a spin doctor much like your hero Obama. He's referring to government. If you mean did I have help from my family when i was a child...then I guess, yes I had help. But NEVER NEVER even when I was at my lowest as a single parent EVER depend on government assistance, like Obama is insinuating. Most libs don't get that part.

Well, then you need to be more clear on YOUR statement and how YOU interpret Obamas message, instead of just randomly quoting him and calling him names like a 7 year old.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2012, 10:28:27 PM
Hate to disappoint ya buddy but i ve never favored either party. I sure as hell care less about your liberal conservative battles. Both are equal idiots who only see one side. Did obama mention that people cant make it unless the govt helps them? I didnt hear or read this speech. Is that what he said or are you interpreting what he said to suit your views of him?

I have a feeling Coach is interpreting it to suit his own needs. Did Obama ever outright say that people cant make it without the govt?
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2012, 10:29:54 PM
100% correct!

Nice avatar  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Stefano on July 14, 2012, 10:30:44 PM
I have a feeling Coach is interpreting it to suit his own needs. Did Obama ever outright say that people cant make it without the govt?

I never heard or read this speech but i think coach is creating his own version of what obama is indirectly saying. ::)

Of course if one of his own camp said it coach would be crowing about how brilliant it is.

Edit: he said as obama is insinuating so clearly so coach is creating bullshit as he goes along.
Hint: Its not what obama says ...its what he insinuates...lol.

Coach.. putting the con in conservative.

You conservative /liberal clowns are hilarious
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: The_Hammer on July 14, 2012, 10:32:03 PM
Mitt Romney himself was helped by his ultra wealthy father to avoid the Vietnam War.

Romney supported the Vietnam War, just as long as he didn't have to fight...










(Romney pictured on the far right picketing support of the Vietnam War)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3ol6e2deC1qzpy8po1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 14, 2012, 10:41:02 PM
Who the fukc wants "Night of the Living Dead" at every intersection trying to wash our windows for some lose change and car alarms going off every 5 seconds on every city block like is happening in most major cities? The answer isn't more fukcing prisons for crying out loud. Where the fukc did some of you people grow up? Jesus Christ!!! 1970s Russia sounds like a better place to live than where some of you people want the future of America to be.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: chaos on July 15, 2012, 08:29:53 AM
I don't even know what BBPC stands for :(
Big
Black
Presidential
Cock
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Nirvana on July 15, 2012, 08:50:39 AM
yes the Kardashian whore is a harder worker than all of us. 
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 15, 2012, 08:56:24 AM
Big
Black
Presidential
Cock

 :-X :-X
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 15, 2012, 01:43:36 PM
Well, then you need to be more clear on YOUR statement and how YOU interpret Obamas message, instead of just randomly quoting him and calling him names like a 7 year old.  :-\ :-\
Coach should be snuggled more..
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: HTexan on July 15, 2012, 01:50:45 PM
if being a tool was measured in height, coach would be the tallest man in the world.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: _bruce_ on July 15, 2012, 02:25:44 PM
the ideals that obama subscribe to are highlighted in malcom gladwells outliers.

anybody that has read that book can see the point obama is making, the problem is he is also missing a broader point.

the thing is that the successful ppl also have to work 10 times harder than the other 9 ppl do that didnt become succesful.

he and others discount the hardwork these succesful ppl put into their success.

the govt doesnt and SHOULDNT strive to generate equal results, which is what the utopian would like to move towards.

Equal opportunity and the ability to make your own choices is what should be strived for.

Unfortunately this is to "cruel" a concept for some and they just cant seem to come to terms with the idea that in life there are losers and winners even if the difference between them is just luck.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 15, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
the ideals that obama subscribe to are highlighted in malcom gladwells outliers.

anybody that has read that book can see the point obama is making, the problem is he is also missing a broader point.

the thing is that the successful ppl also have to work 10 times harder than the other 9 ppl do that didnt become succesful.

he and others discount the hardwork these succesful ppl put into their success.

the govt doesnt and SHOULDNT strive to generate equal results, which is what the utopian would like to move towards.

Equal opportunity and the ability to make your own choices is what should be strived for.

Unfortunately this is to "cruel" a concept for some and they just cant seem to come to terms with the idea that in life there are losers and winners even if the difference between them is just luck.

Post of the year. Last few lines are the truest thing in this thread.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: flipper5470 on July 15, 2012, 03:41:47 PM
None of which is relevant to the crux of what Obama is getting at.  Since there really is no way for him or his statist cronies to keep a metaphycical scoreboard...a way to determine who really owes what to those around him or her...they are simply going to take your wealth by force of government and reassign it randomly via an ever growing bureaucracy.  Given it's pretty much exactly what he told the infamous  "Joe the Plumber" during the campaign of 2008, it's one of the few...if not the only...belief he's unwilling to sell out on.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: garebear on July 15, 2012, 05:08:59 PM
There are very few republicans whos beliefs and ideas and values align with the bible. In fact, its in direct opposition, yet all these republicans love god  ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: Cashfan on July 16, 2012, 07:48:57 PM
Who built the roads you and your customers drive across, the aquaducts that bring water to your city, dams that generate the electricity that keeps your lights on and who is responsible for keeping crime down to a reasonble level so that its safe to live in your area?  Government has its place, without the good things the government provides, you wouldnt have a business.  Stop being such a childish ingrate.  If you dont like it here, you and your harem of wives can leave.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: SF1900 on July 16, 2012, 07:57:48 PM
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Exactly. Would Jesus Christ really agree with cutting all funding to help others. I think not.
Title: Re: Such a tool
Post by: nkhp on July 16, 2012, 08:28:35 PM
Bullshit

 Bullshit is right. Lots of people work hard and dont get Fuck All!! Getting rich is about hard work mixed with good luck and a good idea.