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Title: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 12:20:08 PM




Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 12:24:38 PM
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 23, 2012, 12:26:37 PM
Post the vid of Ice T.  Between Coco and his views on the second amendment, I have the utmost respect for him!
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 12:28:02 PM
According to the gun control advocates - those racist koreans should just have allowed the savages to plunder everything and burn the place down and let the insurance company deal with it. 
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 23, 2012, 12:29:52 PM
According to the gun control advocates - those racist koreans should just have allowed the savages to plunder everything and burn the place down and let the insurance company deal with it. 

Sickening how the childish, backward, gun control lunatics come out of the wood work to exploit a situation like the shooting in Colorado.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 12:48:45 PM
Sickening how the childish, backward, gun control lunatics come out of the wood work to exploit a situation like the shooting in Colorado.


They have an agenda that seeks to exploit tragedy for their own partisan gain despite the fact that its a proven loser. 

Abortion / Gay Marriage   =  LEGAL

Firearms ownership = ILLEGAL 
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2012, 01:13:59 PM


And people lament who needs an ' assault rifle '  ::)

It's only designed to kill , yeah no shit and it's exactly why I would want to use if I had to. SHTF I'm not grabbing a handgun , you need a rifle.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: _bruce_ on July 23, 2012, 01:42:50 PM
Politics will always take advantage of "shit" that went down.
Having a gun is a nice plus - in Austria you have to register and police visits you regularly to see where it's kept and if you aren't a filthy hippie.
If you are a criminal anus you buy underground and get a free ticket to a local brothel.


Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: hazbin on July 23, 2012, 02:13:29 PM
40 years ago my grampa had a sticker on his car that read      'if guns are outlawed, outlaws will have guns'


all the gun laws do is give criminals an unfair advantage...    you don't see many home invasions in Texas where every 70 year old still keep their guns handy.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 23, 2012, 03:54:50 PM
40 years ago my grampa had a sticker on his car that read      'if guns are outlawed, outlaws will have guns'


all the gun laws do is give criminals an unfair advantage...    you don't see many home invasions in Texas where every 70 year old still keep their guns handy.
X100 I keep one in house and car.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 23, 2012, 04:00:35 PM
Post the vid of Ice T.  Between Coco and his views on the second amendment, I have the utmost respect for him!

Same!
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: POB on July 23, 2012, 04:38:28 PM
40 years ago my grampa had a sticker on his car that read      'if guns are outlawed, outlaws will have guns'


all the gun laws do is give criminals an unfair advantage...    you don't see many home invasions in Texas where every 70 year old still keep their guns handy.

Good post
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
Same!

ice T's vid is now on Drudge Report.   


Ice T has always been the fucking man.  from Rhyme Pays to Law and Order he is the man.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Mr. Magoo on July 23, 2012, 07:18:04 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-r-stone/guns-dont-kill_b_1691256.html

and Posner's take:
http://www.tnr.com/article/books/defense-looseness
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Shockwave on July 23, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-r-stone/guns-dont-kill_b_1691256.html

and Posner's take:
http://www.tnr.com/article/books/defense-looseness
More ignorance from one of your articles -
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not a word about the ease with which anyone in Colorado can obtain automatic weapons

WTF is with people and assuming its an automatic weapon because its an Assault rifle?

This kind of stupidity really pisses me off. Dumbshits hear "Assault Rifle" and just assume its an automatic weapon firing 900 RPM  - its not, its a fucking semi-automatic riflen that fires at the same rate as any other semi-automatic hunting rifle.

Everyone demonizes these firearms without even knowing what the fuck theyre talking about, and it really irritates me.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 07:49:39 PM
More ignorance from one of your articles -
WTF is with people and assuming its an automatic weapon because its an Assault rifle?

This kind of stupidity really pisses me off. Dumbshits hear "Assault Rifle" and just assume its an automatic weapon firing 900 RPM  - its not, its a fucking semi-automatic riflen that fires at the same rate as any other semi-automatic hunting rifle.

Everyone demonizes these firearms without even knowing what the fuck theyre talking about, and it really irritates me.

A good shot w a deer rifle from a good position and a scoped in rifle can do severe damage.    do we ban deer rifles and bolt actions? 
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Mr. Magoo on July 23, 2012, 07:50:36 PM
More ignorance from one of your articles -
WTF is with people and assuming its an automatic weapon because its an Assault rifle?

This kind of stupidity really pisses me off. Dumbshits hear "Assault Rifle" and just assume its an automatic weapon firing 900 RPM  - its not, its a fucking semi-automatic riflen that fires at the same rate as any other semi-automatic hunting rifle.

Everyone demonizes these firearms without even knowing what the fuck theyre talking about, and it really irritates me.

If you're right then I don't apologize for the article, it's wrong on that point. I don't watch the news so I don't know anything about the shooting. I was just bringing out another side to this thread to balance it out.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Shockwave on July 23, 2012, 07:53:51 PM
If you're right then I don't apologize for the article, it's wrong on that point. I don't watch the news so I don't know anything about the shooting. I was just bringing out another side to this thread to balance it out.
Not blaming you, I just hate that people dont even know what they're demonizing.

You cannot legally buy a select-fire (burst or fully automatic) weapon without a class 3 license, which is NOT easy to get.
You cant even legally buy a shot barreled carbine without a permit.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 08:03:05 PM
Not blaming you, I just hate that people dont even know what they're demonizing.

You cannot legally buy a select-fire (burst or fully automatic) weapon without a class 3 license, which is NOT easy to get.
You cant even legally buy a shot barreled carbine without a permit.


truth, I have an AR, Ak47, a .308 scoped rifle, etc, handguns, etc.   TBH, if I ever wanted to really fuck shit up, the .308 rifle at 300 yards out bolt action is what I would choose from a high position is what I would pick over a spray and pray w the AR or handguns.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Shockwave on July 23, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
If anything, people should be thankful this dumbass didn't have any training.

He could have killed just as many, if not more people, with a pistol and some training than he ever could with a 100 round magazine and no training.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 08:14:29 PM
If anything, people should be thankful this dumbass didn't have any training.

He could have killed just as many, if not more people, with a pistol and some training than he ever could with a 100 round magazine and no training.


bingo.  w even a little training this freak could have killed 75 + at least.    imagine if he also brought in a few molotovs he tossed at the exits ?   the patrons would not have been able to leave and would have been even worse off.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Shockwave on July 23, 2012, 08:18:38 PM

bingo.  w even a little training this freak could have killed 75 + at least.    imagine if he also brought in a few molotovs he tossed at the exits ?   the patrons would not have been able to leave and would have been even worse off.
Kid was a moron, gas mask = little to no peripheral vision, too much gear, if there was 1 person in that theater with some balls they could have taken him down very easily.
He could have been approached from almost any angle other than head on, and he would have had NO idea.

This guy was counting on everyone in the theater being frightened bitches, and it paid off.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2012, 08:21:50 PM
Kid was a moron, gas mask = little to no peripheral vision, too much gear, if there was 1 person in that theater with some balls they could have taken him down very easily.
He could have been approached from almost any angle other than head on, and he would have had NO idea.

This guy was counting on everyone in the theater being frightened bitches, and it paid off.

This dude was a evil genius.  GE knew exactly the crowd attending this show and he was right. 
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 24, 2012, 02:51:43 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316322,00.html


Female security guard killed nut who killed 4 people and saved many lives. 

Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2012, 02:52:47 PM
33, when you saw those 2 guys robbing that store, you shoulnd't have just stood by.  You should have detained them for police.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 24, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
I always packing in my car and house.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2012, 02:13:54 PM
http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/04/24/georgia-grandmother-foils-robbery-by-getting-into-shootout-with-suspects/#.UBL_q481Z3o.facebook


boooom!!!!! 

Granny shoots back at "Dantre" 
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: SF1900 on July 27, 2012, 02:18:02 PM
But I often wonder how many people will pass their pants after taking out the gun and not do anything.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Shockwave on July 27, 2012, 06:51:34 PM
But I often wonder how many people will pass their pants after taking out the gun and not do anything.
Probably very little.
If they actually train, it should be muscle memory by the time they have to do something.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: delta9mda on July 27, 2012, 07:02:22 PM
Not blaming you, I just hate that people dont even know what they're demonizing.

You cannot legally buy a select-fire (burst or fully automatic) weapon without a class 3 license, which is NOT easy to get.
You cant even legally buy a shot barreled carbine without a permit.
you can get a class 3 (SOT) just need to pay the money and jump through a few hoops. sbr (short barrel rifle, anything under 16") cost is 200 bucks (a tax) with paper work and you will wait upto 8 months for approval. most law abiding citizens qualify. full auto you will need to be an SOT and have police letter saying they are cool with it or get a pre 1986 made but pay thousands of dollars.

Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: HTexan on July 27, 2012, 07:04:42 PM
But I often wonder how many people will pass their pants after taking out the gun and not do anything.
I could care less about material possessions i have insurance anyway. But i wouldnt let anyone hurt my family.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: leadhead on July 28, 2012, 10:25:27 AM

truth, I have an AR, Ak47, a .308 scoped rifle, etc, handguns, etc.   TBH, if I ever wanted to really fuck shit up, the .308 rifle at 300 yards out bolt action is what I would choose from a high position is what I would pick over a spray and pray w the AR or handguns.

Yea mine too. I can drop a deer from 300 yards with my hunting rifles and these activists are scared of smaller caliber semi-auto AR rifles? I bet u half these activists don't even realize they're semi-auto.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: HTexan on July 28, 2012, 10:42:55 AM
Yea mine too. I can drop a deer from 300 yards with my hunting rifles and these activists are scared of smaller caliber semi-auto AR rifles? I bet u half these activists don't even realize they're semi-auto.
Hollywood glorification. Why else would anybody want a Tommy gun, Desert Eagle, Glock 18, Grenade Launcher or Mauser C96?
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Jaime on July 28, 2012, 11:13:31 AM
Americans with their tiny dicks and big guns.

You can deter rioters without guns...Where is all of this damage on private property taking place in europe? Oh right it's not exactly a daily occurence.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: HTexan on July 28, 2012, 12:15:05 PM
Americans with their tiny dicks and big guns.

You can deter rioters without guns...Where is all of this damage on private property taking place in europe? Oh right it's not exactly a daily occurence.
(http://youknowwhats.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/russian.jpg)
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Rami on July 28, 2012, 12:26:03 PM
Americans with their tiny dicks and big guns.

You can deter rioters without guns...Where is all of this damage on private property taking place in europe? Oh right it's not exactly a daily occurence.

London 2011

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/ap_tottenham_london_riot_jp_110808_wg.jpg)
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Shockwave on July 28, 2012, 12:30:47 PM
London 2011

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/ap_tottenham_london_riot_jp_110808_wg.jpg)
Lol.

Didnt a dude with a gun take over a major UK city?  ;D
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Jaime on July 28, 2012, 12:35:23 PM
London 2011

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/ap_tottenham_london_riot_jp_110808_wg.jpg)


There were actually some very gutsy Asians that repelled a very large number of marauding blacks with some baseball bats and machetes.

I also never said you didn't get trouble i said it was very sporadic.

Any damage caused was more a testament to how non confrontational most members of the population are.

After all huge amounts of damage gets caused in America too and that's with the gun deterrent.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: orion on July 28, 2012, 12:43:21 PM

truth, I have an AR, Ak47, a .308 scoped rifle, etc, handguns, etc.   TBH, if I ever wanted to really fuck shit up, the .308 rifle at 300 yards out bolt action is what I would choose from a high position is what I would pick over a spray and pray w the AR or handguns.

Admit it, you've already picked out a high perch.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: orion on July 28, 2012, 12:47:49 PM
More ignorance from one of your articles -
WTF is with people and assuming its an automatic weapon because its an Assault rifle?

This kind of stupidity really pisses me off. Dumbshits hear "Assault Rifle" and just assume its an automatic weapon firing 900 RPM  - its not, its a fucking semi-automatic riflen that fires at the same rate as any other semi-automatic hunting rifle.

Everyone demonizes these firearms without even knowing what the fuck theyre talking about, and it really irritates me.

Serious question, how hard is it to make a semi automatic fully automatic?  I don't know shit about guns.  I tell people I don't need a weapon, I am the weapon. ;D
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: HTexan on July 28, 2012, 01:52:31 PM
Serious question, how hard is it to make a semi automatic fully automatic?  I don't know shit about guns.  I tell people I don't need a weapon, I am the weapon. ;D
from what i seen on tv. its just a spring and a stopper :-\
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: delta9mda on July 28, 2012, 01:58:54 PM
Serious question, how hard is it to make a semi automatic fully automatic?  I don't know shit about guns.  I tell people I don't need a weapon, I am the weapon. ;D
depends on the weapon. an ar15 needs a special trigger/ sear group and you must machine the inside of the lower receiver to accept these parts. this is no "just file this part" thing. first and foremost it is federal crime to convert without being licensed etc.

im not going to say a person shouldnt have full auto but with any weapon as fast as you can pull the trigger then rounds are going down range.

you could be the baddest mofo there is but when you take fists to a gun fight you lose.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: delta9mda on July 28, 2012, 01:59:42 PM
from what i seen on tv. its just a spring and a stopper :-\
this is false. absolutely false.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: HTexan on July 28, 2012, 02:02:32 PM
this is false. absolutely false.
really?, i hope it is.
Title: Re: Watch and learn gun grabbers. This is why people need guns in this country.
Post by: Shockwave on July 28, 2012, 02:07:37 PM
depends on the weapon. an ar15 needs a special trigger/ sear group and you must machine the inside of the lower receiver to accept these parts. this is no "just file this part" thing. first and foremost it is federal crime to convert without being licensed etc.

im not going to say a person shouldnt have full auto but with any weapon as fast as you can pull the trigger then rounds are going down range.

you could be the baddest mofo there is but when you take fists to a gun fight you lose.
This is true.
Different firearms have different ways of doing it, but with the AR, you need some completely different parts. It can be done by someone competent in a machine shop, however.
Its not even worth doing on most weapons, you can be just as deadly, or deadlier with a semi-automatic weapon firing well placed rounds than just spraying and praying.
There is a reason the military went to 3 round bursts on most of its assault rifles - and generally most never have the weapon on anything other than semi.

Edit*
Im impressed delta, you know your shit.
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Post by: Thespritz0 on July 28, 2012, 05:22:48 PM
40 years ago my grampa had a sticker on his car that read      'if guns are outlawed, outlaws will have guns'


all the gun laws do is give criminals an unfair advantage...    you don't see many home invasions in Texas where every 70 year old still keep their guns handy.
^^
Which brings the inevitable question "where were the people with carry permits" in the movie theater in Colorado??  Seems almost impossible there wasn't ANY return fire!!!  Fuck, even in CANADA where I live I know gang members are STRAPPED going out!