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Romney: 'Looking Forward to the Bust of Winston Churchill Being in the Oval Office Again'
3:00 PM, JUL 26, 2012 • BY DANIEL HALPERSingle PagePrintLarger TextSmaller TextAlerts
At an event in London, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said, "I'm looking forward to the bust of Winston Churchill being in the Oval Office again."
Mitt Romney at London fundraiser: "I'm looking forward to the bust of Winston Churchill being in the Oval Office again." #watersedge?
— Kasie Hunt (@kasie) July 26, 2012
President Obama famously sent Churchill's bust back to Britain soon after coming into office. As the Telegraph reported then:
A bust of the former prime minister once voted the greatest Briton in history, which was loaned to George W Bush from the Government's art collection after the September 11 attacks, has now been formally handed back.
The bronze by Sir Jacob Epstein, worth hundreds of thousands of pounds if it were ever sold on the open market, enjoyed pride of place in the Oval Office during President Bush's tenure.
But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks."
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But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks."
WHY?
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WHY?
because Obama associates Churchill with colonialist policies of the UK and what he claims his grandfather dealt with in Kenya at the hands of the Brits.
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because Obama associates Churchill with colonialist policies of the UK and what he claims his grandfather dealt with in Kenya at the hands of the Brits.
Didn't he fabricate almost all of that? It's hard to keep track of all of his lies and flip-flops so correct me if I'm wrong.
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Didn't he fabricate almost all of that? It's hard to keep track of all of his lies and flip-flops so correct me if I'm wrong.
correct, but if you look at DSouzas book, it's all spelled out in great detail. GW read DSouzas book and agrees it's probably the best out there explaining why Obama does what he does.
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because Obama associates Churchill with colonialist policies of the UK and what he claims his grandfather dealt with in Kenya at the hands of the Brits.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA H !!
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because Obama associates Churchill with colonialist policies of the UK and what he claims his grandfather dealt with in Kenya at the hands of the Brits.
I guess I was under the misconception that the British brought these people out of savagery, and are directly responsible for Obama not being a tribesman like the million prior Obama generations? ::)
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!
then you fucking explain it to me?
Churchill was and is a historical giant for the ages. you tell me why your communist messiah gave it back.
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this is really an important issue. not pandering to the brits or anything.
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this is really an important issue. not pandering to the brits or anything.
Here comes the resident lib to put things into prospective... ::) ;D
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Here comes the resident lib to put things into prospective... ::)
it's true tho. Romney really has nothing to say over there. He will toss some regional nonsense to everyone he talks to. What is he supposed to say? "Obama sucks?" then he is criticizing US president on foreign soil. He probably doesn't need to give a speech at all.
Who gives a shit if he wanted this piece of art in the oval office?
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this is really an important issue. not pandering to the brits or anything.
LOL. I have been commenting on this since day one of this disastrous communist junta. Obama is a thug, a ghetto traitor, a communist, and hates this country amd our allies.
nothing to do w pandering.
Obama has to go. He is a fucking DISASTER amd you know it!
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then you fucking explain it to me?
Churchill was and is a historical giant for the ages. you tell me why your communist messiah gave it back.
That was glenn beck's conspiracy theory about why the bust was returned. It originated from a caller to his show and I guess glenn thought it was brilliant.
BUT, here's the truth lol
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/02/20/busted-the-churchill-flap.html
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it's true tho. Romney really has nothing to say over there. He will toss some regional nonsense to everyone he talks to. What is he supposed to say? "Obama sucks?" then he is criticizing US president on foreign soil. He probably doesn't need to give a speech at all.
Who gives a shit if he wanted this piece of art in the oval office?
I added a smiley face, I was joking... lol
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;D
I added a smiley face, I was joking... lol
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"Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"
Intro to Maiden Aces High.
FUBO you rotten Kenyan Muslim communist ghetto street thug!
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because Obama associates Churchill with colonialist policies of the UK and what he claims his grandfather dealt with in Kenya at the hands of the Brits.
Or maybe its because Britain was charging the US a monthly fee to keep it. It was not a gift but a rental statue
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Or maybe its because Britain was charging the US a monthly fee to keep it. It was not a gift but a rental statue
LOL. Solyndra?
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then you fucking explain it to me?
Churchill was and is a historical giant for the ages. you tell me why your communist messiah gave it back.
how many times has thins been explained to you
I just explained it to you again a couple of days ago
do you remember what I said?
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how many times has thins been explained to you
I just explained it to you again a couple of days ago
do you remember what I said?
Oh, cause he made room for Lincoln and mlk? LMFAO. Talk about delusion!
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then you fucking explain it to me?
Churchill was and is a historical giant for the ages. you tell me why your communist messiah gave it back.
Your typical "if you can't prove that I'm wrong, then I'm right" attitude amuses me.
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we shall not flag or fail.
those fucking duck face, shirt selling bodybuilders have ruined it for everyone now.
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!
Quit stealing my lines bitch.
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those fucking duck face, shirt selling bodybuilders have ruined it for everyone now.
I knew Obama was going to be a disaster beyond words when on day 1 he did that. every Obama cultist communist thug can jump off a skyscraper for all I care, the bloom is off the rose now.
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Oh, cause he made room for Lincoln and mlk? LMFAO. Talk about delusion!
yep, you're definitely delusion
you also left out the part that the bust of Churchill was on loan
that means at some point it is going to be returned and when Obama got in office he decided to return it and replace it with his favorite politician which is Lincoln
Why would you want a statue of a foreign leader instead of one of the greatest POTUS's
That's the only weird part about this non-issue
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this is really an important issue. not pandering to the brits or anything.
Coming from the guy who logs 100 posts about everything but the economy for every one 1 post he logs about the economy. ::)
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Coming from the guy who logs 100 posts about everything but the economy for every one 1 post he logs about the economy. ::)
;D
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Romney is making such an ass of himself in the UK that I'd be suprised if the Brits would lend it back to us
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"i like grits" was obvious and very lame pandering in the South.
Now, he's trying the same thing in England - trying to get everyone to like him.
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“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
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LOL. Solyndra?
What the fuck does this have to do with Solyndra????
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"i like grits" was obvious and very lame pandering in the South.
Now, he's trying the same thing in England - trying to get everyone to like him.
His own party doesn't even like him.
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His own party doesn't even like him.
Agreed. But we are ABO and would vote for Charles Manson to get rid of Choomer in Chief
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Thanks for proving once again you are an idiot.
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because Obama associates Churchill with colonialist policies of the UK and what he claims his grandfather dealt with in Kenya at the hands of the Brits.
Please have a source for this.... something other than "my brain made it up..." please post some document that says the reason the Bust (that was on loan) was given back...
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Please have a source for this.... something other than "my brain made it up..." please post some document that says the reason the Bust (that was on loan) was given back...
LOL. Yeah, I'm sure Obama is going to put that in writing. LOL
Read Dreams from my Kenyan Drunk Filandering Father
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LOL. Yeah, I'm sure Obama is going to put that in writing. LOL
Read Dreams from my Kenyan Drunk Filandering Father
you mean the book the Dinesh D'Souza wrote that he completey made up and that was trashed by everyone left right and center as total crap
haven't you figured out yet that S'Souza makes a living writing complete nonsense that morons like yourself gobble up and believe as fact rather than the complete fabrication that it really is
how is it possible that you're actually a lawyer?
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you mean the book the Dinesh D'Souza wrote that he completey made up and that was trashed by everyone left right and center as total crap
haven't you figured out yet that S'Souza makes a living writing complete nonsense that morons like yourself gobble up and believe as fact rather than the complete fabrication that it really is
how is it possible that you're actually a lawyer?
BTW - Obama was buster for lying about his grandfather being tortured by the Brits in Kenya.
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BTW - Obama was buster for lying about his grandfather being tortured by the Brits in Kenya.
no idea what that refers to or how it's even relevent but since you've written it I'll assume some other dope made it up and you believes it or you just made it up yourself
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no idea what that refers to or how it's even relevent but since you've written it I'll assume some other dope made it up and you believes it or you just made it up yourself
Again - Obama claimed it in Dreams from my Drunk Communist Filandering Father and it was debunked by a few people who looked in to it.
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Again - Obama claimed it in Dreams from my Drunk Communist Filandering Father and it was debunked by a few people who looked in to it.
damn - I guess Obama better hope this doesn't get out or he might not become POTUS
I have no doubt a couple of 3333 level morons got their panties in a twist over the book - and of course you believed it hook like and sinker
what else is new
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damn - I guess Obama better hope this doesn't get out or he might not become POTUS
I have no doubt a couple of 3333 level morons got their panties in a twist over the book - and of course you believed it hook like and sinker
what else is new
I didnt believe a damn thing about obama's book other than the fact that he never wrote it himself and had to be bailed out by his domestic terrorist buddy bill ayeres after blowing the advance money.
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It's sad watching someone flail away beating themselves up in front of a crowd.
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LOL. Yeah, I'm sure Obama is going to put that in writing. LOL
Read Dreams from my Kenyan Drunk Filandering Father
Well come the fuck on bro... you cant just say "this is the situation" and then say "well no ones gonna admit it.. but trust me.. it is"
That just doesnt fucking fly... like seriously.. do you understand what "accusations" and "proof" mean in the grand scheme of things...
You cant just make shit up and say "its true if you cant prove otherwise" I mean, god damn. You make a statement and say this is the proof.. and we can look at the proof and determine if its viable or not... this shit fucking infuriates me that a grown man cant understand that.
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Well come the fuck on bro... you cant just say "this is the situation" and then say "well no ones gonna admit it.. but trust me.. it is"
That just doesnt fucking fly... like seriously.. do you understand what "accusations" and "proof" mean in the grand scheme of things...
You cant just make shit up and say "its true if cant prove otherwise" I mean, god damn. You make a statement and say this is the proof.. and we can look at the proof and determine if its viable or not... this shit fucking infuriates me that a grown man cant understand that.
So why did Obama return it?
Remember his statement about our relationship w the brits early on?
He hates the Brits because he thinks they destroyed Kenya and thinks they tortured his grandfather.
BTW - how is that GDP number this morning?
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So why did Obama return it?
Remember his statement about our relationship w the brits early on?
He hates the Brits because he thinks they destroyed Kenya and thinks they tortured his grandfather.
BTW - how is that GDP number this morning?
Dude, you cant say "this is the situation, unless you can come up with a better explaination".. Dude..If you make a claim... have a fucking tangable and researchable source...
Fuck
And quit the bullshit derailing technique... If were talking about the churchill bust.. leave it there... you cant get jammed up and try to change the subject in the middle of the thread..Have some fucking pride about your self
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So why did Obama return it?
Remember his statement about our relationship w the brits early on?
He hates the Brits because he thinks they destroyed Kenya and thinks they tortured his grandfather.
BTW - how is that GDP number this morning?
he doesn't hate the British
I know you believe this but you're forgetting that you're an idiot
it's been explained to you many times why he returned it so why do you keep asking ?
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Dude, you cant say "this is the situation, unless you can come up with a better explaination".. Dude..If you make a claim... have a fucking tangable and researchable source...
Fuck
And quit the bullshit derailing technique... If were talking about the churchill bust.. leave it there... you cant get jammed up and try to change the subject in the middle of the thread..Have some fucking pride about your self
He never explained why he sent it back on day 1, and people have been trying to figure out why and look to a whole host of other statements and actions by him to figure it out. Given his past statements and actions, people have come to that conclusion since he won't answer himself.
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He never explained why he sent it back on day 1, and people have been trying to figure out why and look to a whole host of other statements and actions by him to figure it out. Given his past statements and actions, people have come to that conclusion since he won't answer himself.
Is there any fucking proof that this is the reason he sent it back... because of personal shit with is father?
It was on loan... it was loaned to Bush... and he replaced it with an Ameican President that was his Hero. Abe Lincoln...
What the fuck are you talking about.
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Is there any fucking proof that this is the reason he sent it back... because of personal shit with is father?
It was on loan... it was loaned to Bush... and he replaced it with an Ameican President that was his Hero. Abe Lincoln...
What the fuck are you talking about.
Did they ask for it back? LOL
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He never explained why he sent it back on day 1, and people have been trying to figure out why and look to a whole host of other statements and actions by him to figure it out. Given his past statements and actions, people have come to that conclusion since he won't answer himself.
no one cares about this so why do you care?
Obama has a higher approval rating in the UK then he does here so clearly the people in the UK don't give a shit either
btw - the bust was a loan to GWB and scheduled to be returned
here's an idea for you, why don't you let Obama worry about how to decorate his office and you can worry about how to decorate the shithole that you live in
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no one cares about this so why do you care?
Obama has a higher approval rating in the UK then he does here so clearly the people in the UK don't give a shit either
btw - the bust was a loan to GWB and scheduled to be returned
here's an idea for you, why don't you let Obama worry about how to decorate his office and you can worry about how to decorate the shithole that you live in
LOL meltdown.
A lot of people did care when Obama sent it back.
And no kidding obama is popular in europe. His is euro-trash socialist like most over there.
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LOL meltdown.
A lot of people did care when Obama sent it back.
And no kidding obama is popular in europe. His is euro-trash socialist like most over there.
What meltddown ?
Do you see caps or the FU and exclamation points like you use in your multiple daily meltdowns
If a few morons such as yourself care about the bust then that is your problem and no one elses
Deal with it
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Well come the fuck on bro... you cant just say "this is the situation" and then say "well no ones gonna admit it.. but trust me.. it is"
That just doesnt fucking fly... like seriously.. do you understand what "accusations" and "proof" mean in the grand scheme of things...
You cant just make shit up and say "its true if you cant prove otherwise" I mean, god damn. You make a statement and say this is the proof.. and we can look at the proof and determine if its viable or not... this shit fucking infuriates me that a grown man fake lawyer cant understand that.
Fixed.
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As usual, this 333386 person - who spends 18 hours a day on this site (what a thrilling social life he must have!) - has his facts wrong. ::)
After spending most of his time embarrassing himself in London, the "American Borat" tries to redeem himself with this claptrap. ::)
Conservatives outraged over Abraham Lincoln bust in the Oval Office
Mitt Romney, parroting another right-wing conspiracy theory:
Mitt Romney, speaking to a group of more than 200 supporters in hotel in the heart of London this evening, said he is “looking forward” to returning the bust of Winston Churchill to the White House after it was sent back to Great Britain by President Obama.
Wait, this bust?
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/2180/large/20120727-churchill.jpeg?1343412773)
President Barack Obama shows Prime Minister David Cameron of the United Kingdom a bust of Sir Winston Churchill in the private residence of the White House, July 20, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
That's Obama showing off the Churchill bust to British Prime Minister David Cameron ... INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE.
So yeah, the bust was never "returned" to the UK. In fact, it was moved to the residence. In its place in the Oval Office, Obama placed a bust of Pres. Abraham Lincoln. Pretty sensible, right?
Which goes to show, only in America does the self-styled "patriotic American" party get insanely outraged when a bust of a foreign leader gets replaced with that of an American president. And a Republican president, at that.
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gunna be good
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As usual, this 333386 person - who spends 18 hours a day on this site (what a thrilling social life he must have!) - has his facts wrong. ::)
After spending most of his time embarrassing himself in London, the "American Borat" tries to redeem himself with this claptrap. ::)
Conservatives outraged over Abraham Lincoln bust in the Oval Office
Mitt Romney, parroting another right-wing conspiracy theory:
Mitt Romney, speaking to a group of more than 200 supporters in hotel in the heart of London this evening, said he is “looking forward” to returning the bust of Winston Churchill to the White House after it was sent back to Great Britain by President Obama.
Wait, this bust?
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/2180/large/20120727-churchill.jpeg?1343412773)
President Barack Obama shows Prime Minister David Cameron of the United Kingdom a bust of Sir Winston Churchill in the private residence of the White House, July 20, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
That's Obama showing off the Churchill bust to British Prime Minister David Cameron ... INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE.
So yeah, the bust was never "returned" to the UK. In fact, it was moved to the residence. In its place in the Oval Office, Obama placed a bust of Pres. Abraham Lincoln. Pretty sensible, right?
Which goes to show, only in America does the self-styled "patriotic American" party get insanely outraged when a bust of a foreign leader gets replaced with that of an American president. And a Republican president, at that.
Barack Obama sends bust of Winston Churchill on its way back to Britain
Barack Obama has sent Sir Winston Churchill packing and pulse rates soaring among anxious British diplomats.
Mr Obama declined an offer to hang on onto the bust for a further four years Photo: REUTERS
By Tim Shipman in Washington
5:20PM GMT 14 Feb 2009
A bust of the former prime minister once voted the greatest Briton in history, which was loaned to George W Bush from the Government's art collection after the September 11 attacks, has now been formally handed back.
The bronze by Sir Jacob Epstein, worth hundreds of thousands of pounds if it were ever sold on the open market, enjoyed pride of place in the Oval Office during President Bush's tenure.
But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks."
Diplomats were at first reluctant to discuss the whereabouts of the Churchill bronze, after its ejection from the seat of American power. But the British Embassy in Washington has now confirmed that it sits in the palatial residence of ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald, just down the road from Vice President Joe Biden's official residence. It is not clear whether the ambassador plans to keep it in Washington or send it back to London.
American politicians have made quoting Churchill, whose mother was American, something of an art form, but not Mr Obama, who prefers to cite the words and works of his hero Abraham Lincoln. Indeed a bust of Mr Lincoln now sits in the Oval Office where Epstein's Churchill once ruled the roost.
Churchill has less happy connotations for Mr Obama than those American politicians who celebrate his wartime leadership. It was during Churchill's second premiership that Britain suppressed Kenya's Mau Mau rebellion. Among Kenyans allegedly tortured by the colonial regime included one Hussein Onyango Obama, the President's grandfather.
The rejection of the bust has left some British officials nervously reading the runes to see how much influence the UK can wield with the new regime in Washington.
Now it is likely that Gordon Brown will offer a alternative symbol of Anglo-American fealty when he visits Washington to meet Mr Obama for the first time since he became President. Diplomats are still working to finalise a date for the visit which is expected in the final week of this month or early in March.
One suggestion, given Mr Obama's interest in the Lincoln era, is that Mr Brown should offer an artefact relating to the career of John Bright, the 19th Century MP and political reformer who became the most prominent British supporter of Lincoln's Union forces during the American Civil War.
A British Embassy spokesman said: "The bust of Sir Winston Churchill by Sir Jacob Epstein was uniquely lent to a foreign head of state, President George W Bush, from the Government Art Collection in the wake of 9/11 as a signal of the strong transatlantic relationship.
"It was lent for the first term of office of President Bush. When the President was elected for his second and final term, the loan was extended until January 2009.
"The new President has decided not to continue this loan and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the Ambassador's Residence."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/4623148/Barack-Obama-sends-bust-of-Winston-Churchill-on-its-way-back-to-Britain.html
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gunna be good
"The new President has decided not to continue this loan and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the Ambassador's Residence."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/4623148/Barack-Obama-sends-bust-of-Winston-Churchill-on-its-way-back-to-Britain.html
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so where is the shit now?
thats whats impotant to our life right now... ::)
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i dont want leaders of other countries to be hanging up on the walls at our nations center of natl leadership. Put that shit in a museum.
poor mittens upset we don't have statues of the french for helping us out in the revolutionary war too? Viva la Vagina
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so where is the shit now?
thats whats impotant to our life right now... ::)
apparently it's extremely important to 333 and a handful of other right wing nitwits
Why?
I have no idea
maybe 333 is just really into interior decorating
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Churchill was a GREAT leader. Should never have removed the bust.
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Churchill was a GREAT leader. Should never have removed the bust.
why not
It was a loan to Bush and Bush was gone
every new POTUS's change things in the Oval Office when they move in
he replaced it with a bust of Lincoln
what American would have a problem with that
This was almost 4 years ago and has ZERO impact on anyone
other than a few right wing nutbags who hate everything Obama does - know one else cares, most especially the Brits (again, except for a handful of their right wing nuts)
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why not
It was a loan to Bush and Bush was gone
every new POTUS's change things in the Oval Office when they move in
he replaced it with a bust of Lincoln
what American would have a problem with that
This was almost 4 years ago and has ZERO impact on anyone
other than a few right wing nutbags who hate everything Obama does - know one else cares, most especially the Brits (again, except for a handful of their right wing nuts)
No.......... he is black..
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No.......... he is black..
Lol always the race card to cover up for obama's disastrous record of debt, deception, deficit, decline, depression, and decay
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Lol always the race card to cover up for obama's disastrous record of debt, deception, deficit, decline, depression, and decay
I didnt say nothing about that.. where are you getting that from?
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Lol always the race card to cover up for obama's disastrous record of debt, deception, deficit, decline, depression, and decay
my business is doing great along with many other people
have you seen the stock market today
sorry to hear that you're experiencing depression and decay
maybe it's because you suck at your chosen field
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my business is doing great along with many other people
have you seen the stock market today
sorry to hear that you're experiencing depression and decay
maybe it's because you suck at your chosen field
Yeah - hopes of QE3 due to a 1.5 GDP rate for last quarter.
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Yeah - hopes of QE3 due to a 1.5 GDP rate for last quarter.
a heck of alot better than the GDP when he took office
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so he replaced a foreign leader - with a statue of an american president - and repubs are pissed about it?
I take it you do understand if obama said "i'm going to remove a US president and put up a foreign leader", yall woudl be shitting your pants in anger
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so he replaced a foreign leader - with a statue of an american president - and repubs are pissed about it?
I take it you do understand if obama said "i'm going to remove a US president and put up a foreign leader", yall woudl be shitting your pants in anger
not just any POTUS but a Republican POTUS
that's what has Repubs so mad
they'd prefer a leader from a ...what did you call it again 333
LOL meltdown.
A lot of people did care when Obama sent it back.
And no kidding obama is popular in europe. His is euro-trash socialist like most over there.
oh yeah, a euro trash socialist country
so 333 is upset that Obama took down the statue of a eurotrash socialist and replaced it with probably the greatest Republican POTUS
that makes alot of sense.
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not just any POTUS but a Republican POTUS
that's what has Repubs so mad
they'd prefer a leader from a ...what did you call it again 333
oh yeah, a euro trash socialist country
so 333 is upset that Obama took down the statue of a eurotrash socialist and replaced it with probably the greatest Republican POTUS
that makes alot of sense.
Churchill was against socialism moron .
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Churchill was against socialism moron .
by your standard he was euorotrash socialist
you prefer that to a Republican POTUS
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by your standard he was euorotrash socialist
you prefer that to a Republican POTUS
He would not have liked Obama.
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he took down a foreign leader, and put up one of the greatest republican presidents who ended slavery.
Mitt didn't like this, huh?
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He would not have liked Obama.
He would not have liked you either
You are more along the lines of the nazis and he hated those
Replace jews with lib and your a match
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http://twitchy.com/2012/07/27/busted-dan-pfeiffers-fact-check-about-winston-churchill-bust-is-100-false
More Obama lies busted.
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White House admits it did return Winston Churchill bust to Britain
telegraph.co.uk ^
Posted on July 29, 2012 3:55:44 PM EDT by Sub-Driver
White House admits it did return Winston Churchill bust to Britain
Barack Obama's White House has been forced to admit that it did return a bust of Sir Winston Churchill to British diplomats, after describing such claims as "100 per cent false".
By Jon Swaine, Washington
7:53PM BST 29 Jul 2012
Aides to Mr Obama were furious after The Daily Telegraph disclosed last week that Mitt Romney planned to restore the Jacob Epstein sculpture to its home under George W Bush from 2001 to 2009.
"I'm looking forward to the bust of Winston Churchill being in the Oval Office again," the Republican challenger confirmed at a fund-raiser at London's Mandarin Oriental hotel.
Dan Pfeiffer, the President's communications director, said in a statement that widespread reports of the bust being returned to Britain's embassy in Washington as Mr Obama took office were untrue.
"This is 100 per cent false," Mr Pfeiffer said. "The bust is still in the White House. In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room". Illustrating his statement with a photograph of Mr Obama inspecting it with David Cameron in 2010, he added: "Hopefully this clears things up a bit and prevents folks from making this ridiculous claim again".
British officials were surprised by Mr Pfeiffer's statement and photograph, however, because the bust now resides in the residence of Sir Peter Westmacott, Britain's ambassador to the US. Further inquiries led to the discovery that there are, in fact, two matching Churchill busts by Epstein.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
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UPDATE AT BOTTOM
In a statement posted on the White House’s website on Tuesday afternoon, White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer revealed an email he sent to Charles Krauthammer offering an apology to syndicated columnist and Fox News Channel regular over a back-and-forth about a bust of former British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.
Krauthammer asked that the apology — which even included an endorsement for Krauthammer’s favorite Major League Baseball team, the Washington Nationals — be made public, and Pfeiffer obliged:
Charles,
I take your criticism seriously and you are correct that you are owed an apology. There was clearly an internal confusion about the two busts and there was no intention to deceive. I clearly overshot the runway in my post. The point I was trying to make – under the belief that the Bust in the residence was the one previously in the Oval Office– was that this oft repeated talking point about the bust being a symbol of President Obama’s failure to appreciate the special relationship is false. The bust that was returned was returned as a matter of course with all the other artwork that had been loaned to President Bush for display in his Oval Office and not something that President Obama or his Administration chose to do. I still think this is an important point and one I wish I had communicated better.
A better understanding of the facts on my part and a couple of deep breaths at the outset would have prevented this situation. Having said all that, barring a miracle comeback from the Phillies I would like to see the Nats win a world series even if it comes after my apology
Thanks,
Dan Pfeiffer
The controversy began last week after Krauthammer criticized Obama’s foreign policy in his Friday column, noting that the White House returned the bust of Churchill to the British Embassy. When Pfeiffer incorrectly denied that the bust was returned, Krauthammer published a response on Sunday night laying out his case and saying, “The decent thing to do, therefore, would be to acknowledge the (inadvertent?) deception and apologize for it.”
UPDATE:
Krauthammer responded to the White House apology at the tail-end of his regular “Special Report” appearance on Tuesday, calling it gracious and unexpected.
“Well, I must say it was a gracious apology,” Krauthammer said. “I was stunned. I didn’t expect it to happen. I actually wrote in my column that I thought the Nationals would win the World Series before I’d see an apology. So, now I suppose the Nationals are going to win the World Series. But it was a gracious apology. They are still clinging to a tiny point on this but the argument is over. I appreciate that the correction and retraction.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/31/white-house-communications-director-apologizes-to-krauthammer/#ixzz22FQ1l6PF
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How is this even a goddam issue?
Who started this stupid thread? They should be ashamed for posting something so completely worthless.
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How is this even a goddam issue?
Who started this stupid thread? They should be ashamed for posting something so completely worthless.
It was actually an issue the day obama walked into the WH and sent back the bust sent to us for 911 by the Brits
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How is this even a goddam issue?
Who started this stupid thread? They should be ashamed for posting something so completely worthless.
exactly
no one gives a shit except a handful of right wing moonbats
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exactly
no one gives a shit except a handful of right wing moonbats
You cared enough to make close to (if not more than) one dozen posts in this thread. Awful lot of time spent talking about something you don't care about. ::)
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You cared enough to make close to (if not more than) one dozen posts in this thread. Awful lot of time spent talking about something you don't care about. ::)
great point
If I criticize 333's epic stupidity that must mean I think this is a serious issue
btw - why would you spend time counting my posts?
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It was actually an issue the day obama walked into the WH and sent back the bust sent to us for 911 by the Brits
Well, I don't think they wanted us to keep it forever.
It's not the Resolute desk or anything... It was on loan right?
It still seems much ado about nothing to me.
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Well, I don't think they wanted us to keep it forever.
It's not the Resolute desk or anything... It was on loan right?
It still seems much ado about nothing to me.
we had one but it was damaged and being repaired to Tony Blair lent Bush a 2nd one which he put in the Oval Office
When Obama came into office the first one had been repaired so we now had two and Obama chose to return the 2nd one which was in the Oval Office and replace it with bust of Lincoln (a Republican no less)
and that became the first in a long line of absurd phony outrage from right wing dipshits
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we had one but it was damaged and being repaired to Tony Blair lent Bush a 2nd one which he put in the Oval Office
When Obama came into office the first one had been repaired so we now had two and Obama chose to return the 2nd one which was in the Oval Office and replace it with bust of Lincoln (a Republican no less)
and that became the first in a long line of absurd phony outrage from right wing dipshits
The 1st republican!
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The wildest part is... this fag 33333 is crying about a Brittian being replaced by an American Presiednt...in the white house...(i still dont understand that one)
The dude is kissing ass to the Brittish, but is getting played out in many of the papers in England...
this is hilarious.
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romney would remove lincoln to add a foreign leader to the white house. that speaks volumes :(
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:). I guess the same thing would be if obama and the nation were gifted a bust of nelson mandela for the white house and the first thing president romney did was send it back.
One can only imagine the meltdowns from the left.
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:). I guess the same thing would be if obama and the nation were gifted a bust of nelson mandela for the white house and the first thing president romney did was send it back.
One can only imagine the meltdowns from the left.
tha fuck are you talking about.. you sound like an idiot..
you over there making shit up son?
Dude....you got mad because Obama returned a bust of an English leader and replaced it with an American President. Cmon... How unpatriotic is that?
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:). I guess the same thing would be if obama and the nation were gifted a bust of nelson mandela for the white house and the first thing president romney did was send it back.
One can only imagine the meltdowns from the left.
what you mean is YOU can only imagine because just like the thread, most everything that you get in a panic over is just some nonsense that you IMAGINE has significance
hey if you actually leave your house today don't forget to wear your Depends and watch out for the scary thugs out there
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what you mean is YOU can only imagine because just like the thread, most everything that you get in a panic over is just some nonsense that you IMAGINE has significance
hey if you actually leave your house today don't forget to wear your Depends and watch out for the scary thugs out there
White House issues embarrassing apology to Charles Krauthammer over Churchill bust gaffe
By Nile GardinerWorldLast updated: August 1st, 2012
647 CommentsComment on this article
The Obama White House: in apology mode
The Obama presidency is fond of issuing apologies for America on the world stage, but very rarely makes them at home to Americans. White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer has just issued one to Washington Post columnist and Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer, who last week wrote an op-ed berating the Obama administration for removing a bust of Sir Winston Churchill from the Oval Office when it came to power. Pfeiffer had issued a stinging attack on Krauthammer, alleging that his Churchill bust reference was “100 percent false.” Krauthammer was of course 100 percent correct, and the British Embassy in Washington even issued a statement contradicting Pfeifer’s remarks.
Here is the full text of Pfeiffer’s mea culpa, published on the White House blog in the form of an open letter to Mr. Krauthammer:
Charles,
I take your criticism seriously and you are correct that you are owed an apology. There was clearly an internal confusion about the two busts and there was no intention to deceive. I clearly overshot the runway in my post. The point I was trying to make – under the belief that the Bust in the residence was the one previously in the Oval Office– was that this oft repeated talking point about the bust being a symbol of President Obama’s failure to appreciate the special relationship is false. The bust that was returned was returned as a matter of course with all the other artwork that had been loaned to President Bush for display in his Oval Office and not something that President Obama or his Administration chose to do. I still think this is an important point and one I wish I had communicated better.
A better understanding of the facts on my part and a couple of deep breaths at the outset would have prevented this situation. Having said all that, barring a miracle comeback from the Phillies I would like to see the Nats win a world series even if it comes after my apology
Thanks,
Dan Pfeiffer
It is good to see Mr. Pfeiffer finally issue a formal apology, after his juvenile and remarkably ignorant rebuttal of Mr. Krauthammer's Post column generated a media storm. But this does not by any means end the controversy over the decision by the White House to return the Churchill bust. There is still an air of defiance in Pfeiffer’s words, and he categorically claims that the bust was sent back “as a matter of course,” and its return to the British government was “not something that President Obama or his Administration chose to do.”
As I noted in my previous blog on the subject, however, both The Sunday Telegraph and The Times of London ran major articles back in early 2009 revealing that British officials had made it clear to the White House that President Obama could keep the Churchill bust in the Oval Office. In other words, it was the White House’s firm decision to return the bust, and no request was made by the British to have it back. This looks awfully like a deliberate snub of America’s closest friend and ally, and it would be good for the White House to acknowledge the truth, rather than continue to spin a blatantly false and misleading line.
Tags: charles Krauthammer, Churchill bust, Dan Pfeiffer, Sir Winston Churchill, White House
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100173449/white-house-issues-humiliating-apology-to-charles-krauthammer-over-churchill-bust
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3333 - did you catch this part:
The bust that was returned was returned as a matter of course with all the other artwork that had been loaned to President Bush for display in his Oval Office and not something that President Obama or his Administration chose to do.
you idiots have been blaming Obama for doing this and it wasn't even something he was involved with and it wasn't like we just sent back the one item
don't forget to report back if you actually leave the house today
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False statements from the White House? Didn't see that one coming.
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This is like watching a fat chick during dodge ball class.
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It's weird that this phony issue is coming up again 4 years after it happened and Krauthammer is pretending the Brits felt snubbed by it
seems like a convenient distraction to take the focus of Mitt's snubfest during his recent visit with our closest ally.
The entire British press, left right and center couldn't stop talking about what a moron Romney is yet I haven't seen anything recent about this phony issue in their press