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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Nick II on August 18, 2012, 08:54:28 AM
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Groundbreaking ::) ::) ::) ::)
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After he started talking about natural growth hormone and testosterone I switched off.
Please, just fucking PLEASE ::) ::)
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Lol@natural insulin spike after wo ;D
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good comedy by Philsulin Head.
funny guy
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I am assuming that red meat does have some influence on testosterone production and creatine. But wouldnt you need to eat A LOT of it (way more than he is eating) to have any effect on the production of testosterone and muscle growth.
He just doesnt look like a Mr. O. Kais physique, if he could dial it in, would blow Philsulinas physique out of the water.
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I am assuming that red meat does have some influence on testosterone production and creatine. But wouldnt you need to eat A LOT of it (way more than he is eating) to have any effect on the production of testosterone and muscle growth.
He just doesnt look like a Mr. O. Kais physique, if he could dial it in, would blow Philsulinas physique out of the water.
He doesn't produce testosterone on his own on top of that.
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Research has proven that taking celltech after workout gives you a bigger spike then injecting insulin, phil knows this that is why he signed with muscle tech to get free celltech.
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This video is from 2 years ago.
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This video is from 2 years ago.
hi phil
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is there anything as bleak as a bodybuilders diet ?
i actually think it takes x10 the dedication to eat that bland shit than it does to hit the gym day in, day out :-\
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Very little fat in that diet. Kai's training video's seemed to have nothing but carbs and protein as well. Beyond that how the hell can you digest nothing but starch and protein, you need fiber.
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You need steak and eggs, alternated with potatoes, for big muscles.
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You need steak and eggs, alternated with potatoes, for big muscles.
groundbreaking advice
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groundbreaking advice
Food combining's the definitive secret here.
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good going dopey, you done gave away all the secrets. now we all know how to win the olympia
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the naive youth rather spent their money on horseshit supplements
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hmmm. no need to mention the finishing touch.............
... which in phils case is lip gloss and pink nail polish in the beauty salon
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All Bro-Science and Drugs.
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All this meals rich on protein and carbs are a WASTE unless you use a ton of drugs!!!
A natural naive aspiring bodybuilder who follow this kind of advice will end up a fat and smoot and with a lot less money spended on food !!!
Fuck this hypocrisy !!!
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I am assuming that red meat does have some influence on testosterone production and creatine. But wouldnt you need to eat A LOT of it (way more than he is eating) to have any effect on the production of testosterone and muscle growth.
He just doesnt look like a Mr. O. Kais physique, if he could dial it in, would blow Philsulinas physique out of the water.
you are supposed to avoid red meats in your post-insulin meal, they break down slower
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i actually think it takes x10 the dedication to eat that bland shit than it does to hit the gym day in, day out :-\
This. Working out is the easy and fun part. Dieting sucks ass.
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All this meals rich on protein and carbs are a WASTE unless you use a ton of drugs!!!
A natural naive aspiring bodybuilder who follow this kind of advice will end up a fat and smoot and with a lot less money spended on food !!!
Fuck this hypocrisy !!!
I hope you mean this in terms of calories...
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I hope you mean this in terms of calories...
I mean in term of excess of calorie , excess of protein , excess of carbs ,excess of meals !!!
Nobody that is natural bodybuilder will ever assimilate all that excess.
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I am assuming that red meat does have some influence on testosterone production and creatine. But wouldnt you need to eat A LOT of it (way more than he is eating) to have any effect on the production of testosterone and muscle growth.
He just doesnt look like a Mr. O. Kais physique, if he could dial it in, would blow Philsulinas physique out of the water.
Greene has dialed it in; but Heath has beaten him anyway. Heath has much better proportions. Greene's bodyparts belong on someone 4-5 inches taller. Nothing flows on him; his physique looks like a mish-mash of bodyparts from other top bodybuilders.
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Nigg.a be so dashing n shit. I iz hard, yo.
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I mean in term of excess of calorie , excess of protein , excess of carbs ,excess of meals !!!
Nobody that is natural bodybuilder will ever assimilate all that excess.
You act as if Heath has been eating the same amount of food from the time he started bodybuilding, until now.
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All this meals rich on protein and carbs are a WASTE unless you use a ton of drugs!!!
A natural naive aspiring bodybuilder who follow this kind of advice will end up a fat and smoot and with a lot less money spended on food !!!
Fuck this hypocrisy !!!
for sure. This guy is eating over 700 grams of protein a day if we are to believe he is ingesting shakes. Fcuking kidneys have to be screaming.
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Anyone remember his infamous 9,000+ calories daily meal plan published in Flex, with 900 grams of protein, 800 grams of carbs and over 200 grams of fats?
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..and no Protien shake on display..
Please ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Anyone remember his infamous 9,000+ calories daily meal plan published in Flex, with 900 grams of protein, 800 grams of carbs and over 200 grams of fats?
Be sure to post it up!
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Greene has dialed it in; but Heath has beaten him anyway. Heath has much better proportions. Greene's bodyparts belong on someone 4-5 inches taller. Nothing flows on him; his physique looks like a mish-mash of bodyparts from other top bodybuilders.
Perhaps, but Philsulina doesnt really look like a mr. O either. Sure, he has good proportions, but he lacks the size, besides arms. That is why ronnie was so dominant. He had size and condition and his body flowed (before he got way too big, etc). So you have phil, who has proportion, but lacks size, and kai who has size but lacks proportions. ITs like politics--pick the 2 lesser of the evils. Either way, you wind up with a not so great mr olympia.
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Perhaps, but Philsulina doesnt really look like a mr. O either. Sure, he has good proportions, but he lacks the size, besides arms. That is why ronnie was so dominant. He had size and condition and his body flowed (before he got way too big, etc). So you have phil, who has proportion, but lacks size, and kai who has size but lacks proportions. ITs like politics--pick the 2 lesser of the evils. Either way, you wind up with a not so great mr olympia.
agreed, but i wouldnt say heath is all proportions. he has a serious imbalance with his arms overpowering his chest first and foremost, but also his entire torso. this is accentuated by his less wide frame, in particular the shoulder area where it becomes disturbing to the flow.
neither are flowing as they should imo.
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Perhaps, but Philsulina doesnt really look like a mr. O either. Sure, he has good proportions, but he lacks the size, besides arms. That is why ronnie was so dominant. He had size and condition and his body flowed (before he got way too big, etc). So you have phil, who has proportion, but lacks size, and kai who has size but lacks proportions. ITs like politics--pick the 2 lesser of the evils. Either way, you wind up with a not so great mr olympia.
I think Phil during his 1st win is around the same size (weight) that Ronnie was during his 1st win.
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Perhaps, but Philsulina doesnt really look like a mr. O either. Sure, he has good proportions, but he lacks the size, besides arms. That is why ronnie was so dominant. He had size and condition and his body flowed (before he got way too big, etc). So you have phil, who has proportion, but lacks size, and kai who has size but lacks proportions. ITs like politics--pick the 2 lesser of the evils. Either way, you wind up with a not so great mr olympia.
If we're keeping score, Phil placed third in his first Olympia. Ronnie didn't even place (he got "16th"). Phil hardly lacks size. His proportions and shape allow him to beat people larger than himself. He beat Cutler; he's beaten Warren. He's beaten Greene; he's beaten Wolf.
As long as he's in condition, he's tough to beat. Heath is the mid-240s, not too far from Ronnie when he won his first Olympia. Heath simply needs to concentrate on keeping his proportions in check without putting on too much mass.
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Anyone remember his infamous 9,000+ calories daily meal plan published in Flex, with 900 grams of protein, 800 grams of carbs and over 200 grams of fats?
Heath goes about 275 or so in the off-season. You think he eats like a bird or something?
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If we're keeping score, Phil placed third in his first Olympia. Ronnie didn't even place (he got "16th"). Phil hardly lacks size. His proportions and shape allow him to beat people larger than himself. He beat Cutler; he's beaten Warren. He's beaten Greene; he's beaten Wolf.
As long as he's in condition, he's tough to beat. Heath is the mid-240s, not too far from Ronnie when he won his first Olympia. Heath simply needs to concentrate on keeping his proportions in check without putting on too much mass.
I never said I was keeping score, just said Ronnie was dominant.
Heath beat a bunch of shitty bodybuilders. Ronnie beat the likes of Levrone, Diller, Nasser, Priest, Cormier, flex.
How can you say heath has proportion? His arms totally dominate his width and chest. In fact they dominate his whole body. Totally out of proportion with those arms. He has good shape, Ill give him that.
And lets be honest, even if Kai is better, they are never going to award a former grapefruit fucker and stripper the Mr. O title. All in all, Kai is actually a better bodybuilder than Heath. You take away Philsulinas arms, you have a really good top NPC physique.
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I think Phil during his 1st win is around the same size (weight) that Ronnie was during his 1st win.
Perhaps, but he still didnt look better
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agreed, but i wouldnt say heath is all proportions. he has a serious imbalance with his arms overpowering his chest first and foremost, but also his entire torso. this is accentuated by his less wide frame, in particular the shoulder area where it becomes disturbing to the flow.
neither are flowing as they should imo.
Exactly. But at least Kais body looks like a Mr. O's
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Exactly. But at least Kais body looks like a Mr. O's
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Looks like a Mr. O's physique compared to Heath. If you read my previous posts I said its picking the lesser of the 2 evils. Neither is fit to be Mr. Olympia, but Id take Kai over Heath.
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Looks like a Mr. O's physique compared to Heath. If you read my previous posts I said its picking the lesser of the 2 evils. Neither is fit to be Mr. Olympia, but Id take Kai over Heath.
are ju retarded?
PHIL LOOKS GREAT.
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are ju retarded?
PHIL LOOKS GREAT.
Yeah, he looks great, but he also looks like a top NPC competitor. A lot of bodybuilders look great. Does that mean they should all be Mr. Olympias? ::) ::)
Besides the arms, what is so great about him? Look at that pic. What makes him stand out that he should be mr. o? sure, I guess when you compare him to the other shitty competitors these days he is the "best" one for the title. Still doesnt make him a worthy mr olympia. you just have to choose the lesser of the evils these days. Put him in a lineup with guys from the 90's no way he would be Mr. O. Like I said he is Mr O because he is competing against guys like branch.
(http://www.got-big.de/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Phil-Heath-Mr-Olympia-2011.jpg)
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It's not the front, and his arms from the front aren't impressive. His arms seem big due to his thick triceps.
It is from the back that he has it over everybody else---his back detail is heads and shoulders above everybody else save Kai and Cedric.
Plus, he consistantly comes in tight and conditioned, like Dex and like Shawn.
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It's not the front, and his arms from the front aren't impressive. His arms seem big due to his thick triceps.
It is from the back that he has it over everybody else---his back detail is heads and shoulders above everybody else save Kai and Cedric.
Plus, he consistantly comes in tight and conditioned, like Dex and like Shawn.
Again, missing the point. His back detail may be best over everyone elses these days, but that doest mean his physique is mr olympia worthy. its really not. unfortunately, someone has to be mr. o and the other competitors sort of suck, so phil gets it. I am not really saying whether he looks better than the other 15 competitors on stage. What I am saying is that overall, when you compare him to the line of former mr. o's his physique does not match up. Phil got lucky and is competing in an era of crappy bodybuilders. He'd be looked over in the early 90s if he competed then.
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Yeah, he looks great, but he also looks like a top NPC competitor. A lot of bodybuilders look great. Does that mean they should all be Mr. Olympias? ::) ::)
Besides the arms, what is so great about him? Look at that pic. What makes him stand out that he should be mr. o? sure, I guess when you compare him to the other shitty competitors these days he is the "best" one for the title. Still doesnt make him a worthy mr olympia. you just have to choose the lesser of the evils these days. Put him in a lineup with guys from the 90's no way he would be Mr. O. Like I said he is Mr O because he is competing against guys like branch.
(http://www.got-big.de/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Phil-Heath-Mr-Olympia-2011.jpg)
you forgot to mention his clavicles. ::)
Phil Heath is best Mr. 0 since ronnie.
and better than many guys from 90s
Always conditioned, always improved, always good muscle separation. I like him and I put him in my favourite BB like FLEX, KEVIN, RONNIE, SHAWN RAY ETC.
Cedric to me looks better than him, but Cedric is just not giving 100 percent and that dissapoints me. He is not even doing O.
sad.
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Dont tell me that this is not Mr. 0 worthy.
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/Iceman1981photos/8.jpg)
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you forgot to mention his clavicles. ::)
Phil Heath is best Mr. 0 since ronnie.
and better than many guys from 90s
Always conditioned, always improved, always good muscle separation. I like him and I put him in my favourite BB like FLEX, KEVIN, RONNIE, SHAWN RAY ETC.
Cedric to me looks better than him, but Cedric is just not giving 100 percent and that dissapoints me. He is not even doing O.
sad.
Cedric Mcmillan has the physique of a Mr. O and is better than Phil if he could eventually do something. So we agree on that.
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Again, missing the point. His back detail may be best over everyone elses these days, but that doest mean his physique is mr olympia worthy. its really not. unfortunately, someone has to be mr. o and the other competitors sort of suck, so phil gets it. I am not really saying whether he looks better than the other 15 competitors on stage. What I am saying is that overall, when you compare him to the line of former mr. o's his physique does not match up. Phil got lucky and is competing in an era of crappy bodybuilders. He'd be looked over in the early 90s if he competed then.
And again, after you say that, you are saying what I've said before.
This era of mediocrity was brought forth by none other than Jay Cutler---or rather those who allowed Jay to be Mr. O.
But, it started before that. It started when Jay was being groomed to be Mr. O, namely his 2nd place finishes at the ao and his Arnold Classic wins (over a far better Chris Cormier). Also, coinciding with this, the giving out of Pro Cards to inferior conditioned competitors---which means the feeder system to the Pros was producing bad stock.
And it's odd that the really good ones like Richard Jones and Phil Heath were earning their Pro cards on their first try---because everybody else was inferior.
Phil is just the best of the rest. A Flex/Kevin hybrid. And really nobody can really touch him at this point.
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When I look at this picture I get similar feeling like watching pictures of wheeler etc.
Getbig hate against Phil is just retardation.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/QW5Q2052_SJGIUYLYJN.jpg)
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Dont tell me that this is not Mr. 0 worthy.
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/Iceman1981photos/8.jpg)
Yes, its Mr. O worthy compared to what else is on stage. But when you compare him to other Mr. Olympias he falls short. He just happen to be competing in a time where you have people like branch competing. Its all relative to the time period the person competes in. A Mr. O physique is worthy when you could picture that physique pretty much dominating any era or holding its own in any other Mr. Olympia. You just dont see that with phils body. Like I said, its mr. O worthy based on whats competing today and thats not saying much.
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And again, after you say that, you are saying what I've said before.
This era of mediocrity was brought forth by none other than Jay Cutler---or rather those who allowed Jay to be Mr. O.
But, it started before that. It started when Jay was being groomed to be Mr. O, namely his 2nd place finishes at the ao and his Arnold Classic wins (over a far better Chris Cormier). Also, coinciding with this, the giving out of Pro Cards to inferior conditioned competitors---which means the feeder system to the Pros was producing bad stock.
And it's odd that the really good ones like Richard Jones and Phil Heath were earning their Pro cards on their first try---because everybody else was inferior.
Phil is just the best of the rest. A Flex/Kevin hybrid. And really nobody can really touch him at this point.
Yeah, the best of the rest when compared to people like branch, and thats not saying much. Compare heath to dorian, haney, arnold, he gets blown out of the water. Shit, even Levrone, who never won a Mr. O could rivals phils physique. When I look at Levrone, I think he actually looks better than Phil. When I look at Levrone, I dont necessarily think he looks better than dorian, ronnie, or arnold. What does that tell you? Phil is VERY lucky to be competing in this era. His physique is not bad or anything, but he should thank his lucky stars he is not competing during the 90's. Would definitely not be a Mr. O.
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I am assuming that red meat does have some influence on testosterone production and creatine. But wouldnt you need to eat A LOT of it (way more than he is eating) to have any effect on the production of testosterone and muscle growth.
He just doesnt look like a Mr. O. Kais physique, if he could dial it in, would blow Philsulinas physique out of the water.
The zinc, cholesterol and saturated fats that are found in high numbers in red meat will help increase then natural test levels if they are not at max already. But that will do barely anything regarding muscle gain for a natty individual that's been training for two years or longer.
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It makes me shudder when Phil mentions Handy Rimjob. He doesn't give you ANY diet advice Phil.
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It makes me shudder when Phil mentions Handy Rimjob. He doesn't give you ANY diet advice Phil.
That's not what his wife thinks.
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And again, after you say that, you are saying what I've said before.
This era of mediocrity was brought forth by none other than Jay Cutler---or rather those who allowed Jay to be Mr. O.
But, it started before that. It started when Jay was being groomed to be Mr. O, namely his 2nd place finishes at the ao and his Arnold Classic wins (over a far better Chris Cormier). Also, coinciding with this, the giving out of Pro Cards to inferior conditioned competitors---which means the feeder system to the Pros was producing bad stock.
And it's odd that the really good ones like Richard Jones and Phil Heath were earning their Pro cards on their first try---because everybody else was inferior.
Phil is just the best of the rest. A Flex/Kevin hybrid. And really nobody can really touch him at this point.
QFT,,,
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That's not what his wife thinks.
As per that video, he is simply shrugging it off either way and doing his own thing by the looks