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Title: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:16:41 AM
i love the moral high ground your republican/conservatives take on abortion, how the fuck can an abortion from a rape be morally wrong, or as you 'good' christians believe, a true rape will not produce a child as the woman's body will stop this happening


honestly, how the fuck can you yanks be so stupid to believe this shit and actually vote for these backward clowns?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: manuelsonn on August 22, 2012, 07:18:01 AM
U cant avort- god wanted the rape to happen
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:18:59 AM
ahhh, so this is in gods plan..... i see how ive been looking at this all wrong
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Master Blaster on August 22, 2012, 07:21:02 AM
i love the moral high ground your republican/conservatives take on abortion, how the fuck can an abortion from a rape be morally wrong, or as you 'good' christians believe, a true rape will not produce a child as the woman's body will stop this happening


honestly, how the fuck can you yanks be so stupid to believe this shit and actually vote for these backward clowns?

Don't confuse conservatives with social cons. They're like a tiny percentage that annoys the fuck out of everyone.

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Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Butterbean on August 22, 2012, 07:22:35 AM
as you 'good' christians believe, a true rape will not produce a child as the woman's body will stop this happening



I think Akin is the only one in the world to believe this.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Agnostic007 on August 22, 2012, 07:23:39 AM
I think Akin is the only one in the world to believe this.

I wish..
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:24:04 AM
he spoke to 'doctors'
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2012, 07:25:02 AM
Is a "true rape" something like "natural bodybuilding" ?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Butterbean on August 22, 2012, 07:25:57 AM
he spoke to 'doctors'

On Getbig?

(No offense dutch!)
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:26:33 AM
a 'true rape' actually does happen..... natural bodybuilding isnt even believed by the hardest line christians
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
He spoke to Dr Chimps, not to Dr Dutch..
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:28:42 AM
is there rape in the neverneverlands???
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Master Blaster on August 22, 2012, 07:29:04 AM
a 'true rape' actually does happen..... natural bodybuilding isnt even believed by the hardest line christians

Even "hardest line christians" (?) know natural bodybuilding = drugs.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Thick Nick on August 22, 2012, 07:30:04 AM
i love the moral high ground your republican/conservatives take on abortion, how the fuck can an abortion from a rape be morally wrong, or as you 'good' christians believe, a true rape will not produce a child as the woman's body will stop this happening


honestly, how the fuck can you yanks be so stupid to believe this shit and actually vote for these backward clowns?

I love how libs can't stand racial profiling... but can claim all cons or Christians feel just like the knucklehead Akins. Even better support the Muslims... who would cut a rape VICTIMS head off for being provocative. Wtf is wrong with you seriously?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: dr.chimps on August 22, 2012, 07:30:56 AM
He spoke to Dr Chimps, not to Dr Dutch..
I love that Romney is trying to abort Akin's campaign. You'd think he'd want the GOP to take it to term, even if it hurt the party.    ;D
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2012, 07:31:31 AM
Even "hardest line christians" (?) know natural bodybuilding = drugs.
Hardcore Christians are dangerous... :-X
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:32:06 AM
I love how libs can't stand racial profiling... but can claim all cons or Christians feel just like the knucklehead who said this. Even better support the Muslims... who would cut a rape VICTIMS head off for being provocative. Wtf is wrong with you seriously?

im english you thick c.unt, get the fuck out of here with your 125 posts!!!!
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: The Scott on August 22, 2012, 07:32:29 AM
i love the moral high ground your republican/conservatives take on abortion, how the fuck can an abortion from a rape be morally wrong, or as you 'good' christians believe, a true rape will not produce a child as the woman's body will stop this happening


honestly, how the fuck can you yanks be so stupid to believe this shit and actually vote for these backward clowns?

In a mood, eh?  Feeling poorly about the state of your own country and seek to shift the somewhat limited attention span of the average person to the other side of the pond?  

Let he who is without morality cast the first stone... Is that your plan?  It appears so.  I have no problem aborting children produced by rape so long as you put to death the rapist.  Now then, get to work on cleaning up your own country  or as a friend of mine once said, start by putting the "great" back in Great Britain.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:33:57 AM
so you execute rapists in america do you?,,,,, full rapists or half rapists... ?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 22, 2012, 07:35:28 AM
so you execute rapists in america do you?,,,,, full rapists or half rapists... ?
Only true natural rapists..
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Thick Nick on August 22, 2012, 07:35:50 AM
im english you thick c.unt, get the fuck out of here with your 125 posts!!!!

You can't be English and a lib???
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:36:34 AM
so only if the rape doesnt produce a child will you recieve the death penalty then?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: The Scott on August 22, 2012, 07:37:09 AM
so you execute rapists in america do you?,,,,, full rapists or half rapists... ?

I seriously doubt you are this ignorant and instead this is a feeble attempt to belittle my reply by playing the moron.  Do they not teach reading comprehension in England?  Of course they do.

Just because you do not like the reply does not make it incomprehensible.  You are fooling no one. 
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:37:24 AM
You can't be English and a lib???

nope...... you can be a conservative or working class
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:38:34 AM
I seriously doubt you are this ignorant and instead this is a feeble attempt to belittle my reply by playing the moron.  Do they not teach reading comprehension in England?  Of course they do.

Just because you do not like the reply does not make it incomprehensible.  You are fooling no one. 

they also teach sarcasm, c.unt!
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Butterbean on August 22, 2012, 07:39:04 AM
so you execute rapists in america do you?,,,,, full rapists or half rapists... ?

Along the lines of what Thick Nick said, please don't think all Christians (or even any) embrace what this Akin guy said regarding "legitimate rapes" ::) or the women's body preventing the preg.  He needs to step aside.

Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: The Scott on August 22, 2012, 07:39:59 AM
they also teach sarcasm, c.unt!


You have no idea, do you?   

Thus endeth the lesson for today. ;)
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Thick Nick on August 22, 2012, 07:40:09 AM
nope...... you can be a conservative or working class

Riiiiight. Good dodging of my point which owned you off of get big.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:41:00 AM
Along the lines of what Thick Nick said, please don't think all Christians (or even any) embrace what this Akin guy said regarding "legitimate rapes" ::) or the women's body preventing the preg.  He needs to step aside.



ive honestly never heard anything so stupid come out of a politicians mouth!
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: local hero on August 22, 2012, 07:42:15 AM
Riiiiight. Good dodging of my point which owned you off of get big.


 ::)   fuck off with your 127 posts, where did you own me exactly?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Thick Nick on August 22, 2012, 07:42:25 AM
ive honestly never heard anything so stupid come out of a politicians mouth!

You haven't been listening to Joe Biden then. He says something this dumb daily.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Tito24 on August 22, 2012, 07:43:44 AM
that these nuts call it murder make my blood boil
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Thick Nick on August 22, 2012, 07:44:10 AM

 ::)   fuck off with your 127 posts, where did you own me exactly?

Your hipocracy owns you all by itself... as does most libs.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Thick Nick on August 22, 2012, 07:48:01 AM

 ::)   fuck off with your 127 posts, where did you own me exactly?

Also just curious... serious question... why do Brits gave such bad teeth?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Butterbean on August 22, 2012, 08:01:33 AM
ive honestly never heard anything so stupid come out of a politicians mouth!

Agreed, it has to be in the top 5 at least.   All sides are rejecting it.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Batfreak on August 22, 2012, 08:39:01 AM
im english you thick c.unt, get the fuck out of here with your 125 posts!!!!

Dont be mad
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Stark on August 22, 2012, 09:27:18 AM
i love the moral high ground your republican/conservatives take on abortion, how the fuck can an abortion from a rape be morally wrong, or as you 'good' christians believe, a true rape will not produce a child as the woman's body will stop this happening


honestly, how the fuck can you yanks be so stupid to believe this shit and actually vote for these backward clowns?

okay wait a second.... I am by no means republican and I fucking hate most of their slimy world view as well.

but...

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or as you 'good' christians believe, a true rape will not produce a child as the woman's body will stop this happening

That was one fucking guy who said that - one guy!! feel me?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Nirvana on August 22, 2012, 09:30:09 AM
everybody, go read the first 4 books of the new testament.

it's not long.  even if you're not religious just do it, you'll see the difference between jesus and all his fucked up followers and will know more about him than they do. 

even when thinking of jesus just as a person rather than a god he is still an interesting dude. very smart.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Stark on August 22, 2012, 09:38:54 AM
everybody, go read the first 4 books of the new testament.

it's not long.  even if you're not religious just do it, you'll see the difference between jesus and all his fucked up followers and will know more about him than they do. 

even when thinking of jesus just as a person rather than a god he is still an interesting dude. very smart.

Good idea lets read a book that is loosely based on what a maybe fictional person said about a fictional guy who lives in the clouds possibly 1990 years ago which has been heavily edited re-written censored and changed...

Yes I am sure we will be that much close to the truth ::)
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Man of Steel on August 22, 2012, 09:40:24 AM
okay wait a second.... I am by no means republican and I fucking hate most of their slimy world view as well.

but...

That was one fucking guy who said that - one guy!! feel me?
True, but the current formula is as follows:

one republican says something = one Christian says something = all republican Christians blindly agree 100% = 97 page Getbig thread on Pascal's Wager
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Stark on August 22, 2012, 09:42:00 AM
True, but the current formula is as follows:

one republican says something = one Christian says something = all republican Christians blindly agree 100% = 97 page Getbig thread on Pascal's Wager

Seriously read through the statement that you made above, consider the aspect that you are talking about millions of people - hit yourself over the head and disappear from this thread, possibly getbig all together.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: bradistani on August 22, 2012, 09:50:00 AM
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Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Man of Steel on August 22, 2012, 10:04:25 AM
Seriously read through the statement that you made above, consider the aspect that you are talking about millions of people - hit yourself over the head and disappear from this thread, possibly getbig all together.

You don't like humor or sarcasm Stark?  

If you don't like me "brah" that's fine....most don't anymore LOL!  

Hey, what's one more, right?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Nirvana on August 22, 2012, 10:19:34 AM
Good idea lets read a book that is loosely based on what a maybe fictional person said about a fictional guy who lives in the clouds possibly 1990 years ago which has been heavily edited re-written censored and changed...

Yes I am sure we will be that much close to the truth ::)
it will teach you christ from christians.

it can't hurt unless you are that bad of a reader.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: MCWAY on August 22, 2012, 10:21:02 AM
I would like a christian who believes abortion from rape is wrong, to explain to me why they feel this way. Why is it ok for the woman who suffered the unspeakable trauma of rape, to have to bring the fetus to term and birth it and raise it. How does removing the woman's choice help her heal? After all, isn't the real insult of rape the very fact that a woman's choice of whom to share herself with, was removed forceably and against her consent in a most personal and violent fashion?

So not only does the man violate her body against her consent, but the state tags along and removes consent to do with her body as she sees fit as a specific result of the trauma, again. How does that help healing? Would such a society not breed marginalization of women, and in turn, breed hatred and fear of men amongst women? After all, if women are seen as vessels for birthing children and have no control over who they birth, from whom, and when, how else should one view a woman but as a vessel for birthing children? Would she not then be a machine of the state and of men? Should we next outlaw birth control, since, after all, she's killing a man's chance to pass along his genetics at his choosing, whether he decides to rape the woman or not. That's not fair to men, is it?

Explain it to me. I don't understand the logic. I'll keep an open mind.

Sure, as soon as you explain why an innocent baby has to be destroyed for something that is not his/her fault. Why compound one horrific act with another?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: snx on August 22, 2012, 10:24:59 AM
Sure, as soon as you explain why an innocent baby has to be destroyed for something that is not his/her fault. Why compound one horrific act with another?

Sure, just as soon as you explain why you have to compound the horrific act of rape with the horrific act of removing the woman's choice on how to recover from the act.

You believe life starts at conception?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Man of Steel on August 22, 2012, 10:26:15 AM
Sure, as soon as you explain why an innocent baby has to be destroyed for something that is not his/her fault. Why compound one horrific act with another?

There's the disconnect.  The pro-lifer sees a life, the pro-choicer denies the life. 
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: POB on August 22, 2012, 10:27:57 AM
i love the moral high ground your republican/conservatives take on abortion, how the fuck can an abortion from a rape be morally wrong, or as you 'good' christians believe, a true rape will not produce a child as the woman's body will stop this happening


honestly, how the fuck can you yanks be so stupid to believe this shit and actually vote for these backward clowns?

Your 100% correct don't let thick nick or any of these other clowns who are AGREEING with rape get to you.  
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: POB on August 22, 2012, 10:29:36 AM
Also just curious... serious question... why do Brits gave such bad teeth?

Only clowns try to discredit someone's argument by pointing out bad teeth,spelling,ect...
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: POB on August 22, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
Sure, as soon as you explain why an innocent baby has to be destroyed for something that is not his/her fault. Why compound one horrific act with another?

It's not a baby, it's an egg... 
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: MCWAY on August 22, 2012, 10:43:42 AM
It's not a baby, it's an egg... 

Nope, it's a baby. Don't believe me? Do the ultrasound thing, something pro-choicers are afraid of doing.

By the time a woman even knows she's pregnant, the BABY has a heart, brain, lungs, fingers, toes, etc.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Nirvana on August 22, 2012, 11:02:57 AM
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Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: MCWAY on August 22, 2012, 11:20:07 AM
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And when women head to abortion "clinics", are those pics in the womb? NOPE!!

It's more like:

(http://www.babycenter.com/i/m/stages/popups/10/index.jpg)

Of course, if it did look like any of those other four pics, pro-choice people wouldn't get so bent out of shape about ultrasound.

Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Man of Steel on August 22, 2012, 11:23:02 AM
If god exists, and is a righteous god, then one must believe he has given people free will. The right to choose.

If one believes the abortion/rape scenario is a sin, which is possible to believe, it is still the right of one to choose sin or virtue. To choose to offend god or not. One must also believe that although killing is a mortal sin, that the right of people is to choose to sin mortally or not. And that if the sinner repents in the eyes of god, that they will be forgiven their trespasses, no matter the sin. God gave to man his only son, who gave his life so that sinners could repent and be forgiven.

Granted, in your eyes, the woman may have committed mortal sin for her trespass by aborting the fetus as a result of rape. But if her god is righteous, would that god not forgive her if she repented?

So therefore, is the contract between sinner not with god, then? And not with you, the voter, to decide? You would remove the woman's choice forceably? You would legislate god's will? Who are you to know the will of god? And who are you to judge the woman - cast no stone, lest ye be judged yourself.

The result, as I see it, is the same. Man cannot legislate god's will - it is not for him to decide. Only god knows god's will, if there is a god. And you interpreting god's will can only pervert it...man cannot know god's plan for us all. All man/woman can do is lead a good life, repent sins and pray for forgiveness. This is a woman's choice. Just as it is yours.

PS: the pro-choicer does not deny life. The pro-choicer embraces the right of the woman to choose when she gives life. After all, that is her right as a human being in the eyes of god...the right to choose. Be it sin or not, it is her god-given right to choose. And to be held accountable by a god for that choice. Not by you or a politician.

Did you intend this reply for someone else?  I just assumed since I'm not really in the discussion.  I'll happily give an opinion if it was in fact intended for me.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Thick Nick on August 22, 2012, 11:52:15 AM
Your 100% correct don't let thick nick or any of these other clowns who are AGREEING with rape get to you.  

Do NOT say that I agree with rape you idiot... My point was about hipocracy not the guys statement. I am a non practicing catholic... I personally.... PERSONALLY... Do not agree with abortion on demand. I agree with it for rape and insest or life of the mother. AND I don't give a shit about what someone else does... So don't lump me in with Akins.

My point was made by your comment... Because one dope says what Akins did you label everyone... And in the next breath complain if someone who doesnt agree with you labels you.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: POB on August 22, 2012, 04:37:21 PM
Nope, it's a baby. Don't believe me? Do the ultrasound thing, something pro-choicers are afraid of doing.

By the time a woman even knows she's pregnant, the BABY has a heart, brain, lungs, fingers, toes, etc.

Agree to disagree. I've got a question for you since your whole argument is based on protecting babies, I would assume your for the dream act right? I mean after all these were babies brought here a few weeks old, beyond their control. Some don't even speak the language of their own country.They themselves have committed no crime and have college degrees. So we should absolutely pass the dream act right? You can't have it both ways...
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: Nirvana on August 22, 2012, 07:02:14 PM
And when women head to abortion "clinics", are those pics in the womb? NOPE!!

It's more like:

(http://www.babycenter.com/i/m/stages/popups/10/index.jpg)

Of course, if it did look like any of those other four pics, pro-choice people wouldn't get so bent out of shape about ultrasound.


it still hasn't come alive yet. not a single breath yet.

Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: MCWAY on August 22, 2012, 07:21:07 PM
Agree to disagree. I've got a question for you since your whole argument is based on protecting babies, I would assume your for the dream act right? I mean after all these were babies brought here a few weeks old, beyond their control. Some don't even speak the language of their own country.They themselves have committed no crime and have college degrees. So we should absolutely pass the dream act right?

WRONG!!



 You can't have it both ways...

WRONG!

Sure, you can. If my family members had to wait in line and paid their dues, when they immigrated from Jamaica, why should they get to skip the line and get a pass?

The DREAM act is all about the Democrats getting cheap votes by pandering to Hispanics. I guarantee you, if Latinos voted Republican en masse, Pelosi and Reid and even Obama himself would round them up and ship them back to Mexico on the first thing smoking.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: POB on August 22, 2012, 07:59:17 PM
WRONG!!

WRONG!

Sure, you can. If my family members had to wait in line and paid their dues, when they immigrated from Jamaica, why should they get to skip the line and get a pass?

The DREAM act is all about the Democrats getting cheap votes by pandering to Hispanics. I guarantee you, if Latinos voted Republican en masse, Pelosi and Reid and even Obama himself would round them up and ship them back to Mexico on the first thing smoking.

RIGHT!!

Got it! You only care about babies when it aligns with your political agenda... So let me get this strait you want to save a baby that's caused by RAPE, but not one that was walked over the border which was encouraged 30+ years ago. WoooooooW

RIGHT!

Btw, I think your confusing the dream act and immigration reform. How would a 2 week old baby " wait in line"? What do you mean cheap votes? You said your family immigrated(which I don't believe) how long did it take before they could vote? A long long time...
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: dr.chimps on August 23, 2012, 07:09:01 AM
WRONG!!

WRONG!

Sure, you can. If my family members had to wait in line and paid their dues, when they immigrated from Jamaica, why should they get to skip the line and get a pass?

The DREAM act is all about the Democrats getting cheap votes by pandering to Hispanics. I guarantee you, if Latinos voted Republican en masse, Pelosi and Reid and even Obama himself would round them up and ship them back to Mexico on the first thing smoking.
And there's the (political) rub. You guys are great.   ;D
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: POB on August 23, 2012, 08:17:22 PM
What's the matter MCWAY? Gonna take your ball and go home after being owned after only 3 posts?
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: MCWAY on August 23, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
What's the matter MCWAY? Gonna take your ball and go home after being owned after only 3 posts?

Owned by whom, YOU? Hardly!!!

I didn't even know this thread got moved here, until a few minutes ago.

RIGHT!!

Got it! You only care about babies when it aligns with your political agenda... So let me get this strait you want to save a baby that's caused by RAPE, but not one that was walked over the border which was encouraged 30+ years ago. WoooooooW

And the reason they get to cut in line, in front of someone who paid their dues and played by the rules would be.........

Besides, their parents are responsible for them. You seem to have a problem with that.


RIGHT!

Btw, I think your confusing the dream act and immigration reform. How would a 2 week old baby " wait in line"? What do you mean cheap votes? You said your family immigrated(which I don't believe) how long did it take before they could vote? A long long time...

Whether you believe it or not makes no difference to me. The fact remains I do have family members who immigrated to America.

And, no, I don't buy into this notion that all you have to do is sneak into this country, not get caught for X amount of years, have some kids (or sneak them over the border) and you get a shortcut to citizenship.
Title: Re: 'good'christians , rape and abortion
Post by: POB on August 24, 2012, 08:34:50 AM
You didnt even answer the questions... But you DO believe that if a woman is RAPED she should be mandated to keep the baby basically torturing her more for another 9 months? Wow, your a real stand up guy...